leonche64 said:

wonder505 said:

Sorry I'm little confused. What does #3 have to do with the current situation. and as far as conflicting gigs, how do we know any of this without knowing the facts of that conference call?

Number 3 was in response to the statement about no sponsorship deals having been done. I don't know who is managing the group, but this should be in place. I agreed with Jesse on this point, and took it one step further by asking the relevant question as to why he does not have his own sponsorship deal in place. This makes touring MUCH easier with an equipment sponsor such as Peavey, Fender or Marshal orproviding the backline at every venue, you can have the sound man cordinate with the house for the frontline.

Jesse told us that in the call, he asked were there gigs set up for December and he received the reply no. He then asked about January and February and received the same answer. He did this so he could "black out" dates that would be in conflict. In December he was doing tour prep with D'Angelo and in Jan and Feb he was on the road on tour. There was no conflict with the O7's schedule. He told us this himself.

Terry Lewis is the 'manager' of the group.

HonestMan13 said:

leonche64 said:

Number 3 was in response to the statement about no sponsorship deals having been done. I don't know who is managing the group, but this should be in place. I agreed with Jesse on this point, and took it one step further by asking the relevant question as to why he does not have his own sponsorship deal in place. This makes touring MUCH easier with an equipment sponsor such as Peavey, Fender or Marshal orproviding the backline at every venue, you can have the sound man cordinate with the house for the frontline.

Jesse told us that in the call, he asked were there gigs set up for December and he received the reply no. He then asked about January and February and received the same answer. He did this so he could "black out" dates that would be in conflict. In December he was doing tour prep with D'Angelo and in Jan and Feb he was on the road on tour. There was no conflict with the O7's schedule. He told us this himself.

Terry Lewis is the 'manager' of the group.

I think he may be the BL, or band leader. I don't think he is also the business manager and the road manager. That is too many hats to wear, even for that big head.

leonche64 said:

HonestMan13 said:

Terry Lewis is the 'manager' of the group.

I think he may be the BL, or band leader. I don't think he is also the business manager and the road manager. That is too many hats to wear, even for that big head.

I recall Morris saying in an interview that he was the one who let them know when something needed to be done and when to do things (or something to that extent) and that he was the one keeping them in line. The full scope of that wasn't too clearly defined.

asg said:

jwashin4 said:

Why wasn't Jesse out there promoting his own CD? He did very little for Verbal Penetration, which I thought was brilliant.

His CD didnt even reach the billboard top200 most likely it didnt even sell 2k in its first week and wasting money to promote an album which has a limited audience isnt going to help

Wasting money? He was already invested in VP. Why not tour? At the very least, us die-hards would be out there. Instead, he did virtually nothing.

As for VP sales, most people don't even know he had a new CD, hence the need for promotion.

HonestMan13 said:

leonche64 said:

I think he may be the BL, or band leader. I don't think he is also the business manager and the road manager. That is too many hats to wear, even for that big head.

I recall Morris saying in an interview that he was the one who let them know when something needed to be done and when to do things (or something to that extent) and that he was the one keeping them in line. The full scope of that wasn't too clearly defined.

So he is most likely the one coming back with the "I don't know" response to the questions. It really is a shame. They had 20 years to get things in order.

I have no idea what this is all about, but you've got to love a guy who tells you to respectfully fuck off, and then signs his post "PeaceLove".

Awesome.

RodeoSchro said:

I have no idea what this is all about, but you've got to love a guy who tells you to respectfully fuck off, and then signs his post "PeaceLove".

Awesome.

His rant sounds like Ringo Starr's when he was like "I won't sign no more autographs or anything after October 7, 2008, PEACE AND LOVE, PEACE AND LOVE." Only that Ringo didn't curse and was more in control of his emotions lol

PAPAROBBIE said:

idas said:

HE wrote Purple Rain!

So it was Jesse playing on the tape Stevie Nicks had?

To all the people that are saying that he should have said THEN what he was saying NOW.. really? You really would have preferred him to say, "Dear fans. I quit the O7 because there are no plans to tour or make any money off the project we just recorded. I'm sorry you have to hear it from me. And to the fellas...I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to tell the fans that there are no plans to tour or make any money off of the project, but it seemed like the professional thing to do and all. If not... my bad."

Jess

do people even care about Jesse? I could care less if its Jesse or Tori playing or someone else. As long as Jimmy, Terry and Morris are their its The Time to me. It is a pity that they wont promote the cd but I cant blame them. Jimmy and Terry make more producing so why even bother?

Adisa said:

To all the people that are saying that he should have said THEN what he was saying NOW.. really? You really would have preferred him to say, "Dear fans. I quit the O7 because there are no plans to tour or make any money off the project we just recorded. I'm sorry you have to hear it from me. And to the fellas...I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to tell the fans that there are no plans to tour or make any money off of the project, but it seemed like the professional thing to do and all. If not... my bad."

Jess

Nah, he should have said 'I'm leaving the band to pursue other oppurtunities' with no public announcement until the band was prepared to put that information out there.

funksterr said:

Adisa said:

To all the people that are saying that he should have said THEN what he was saying NOW.. really? You really would have preferred him to say, "Dear fans. I quit the O7 because there are no plans to tour or make any money off the project we just recorded. I'm sorry you have to hear it from me. And to the fellas...I'm sorry if I wasn't supposed to tell the fans that there are no plans to tour or make any money off of the project, but it seemed like the professional thing to do and all. If not... my bad."

Jess

Nah, he should have said 'I'm leaving the band to pursue other oppurtunities' with no public announcement until the band was prepared to put that information out there.

Which would have been about half past never. Seriously though even now they don't really address their future as a group when the do (rarely) speak to the media. It's left so much up to fan interpretation/speculation.

HonestMan13 said:

funksterr said:

Nah, he should have said 'I'm leaving the band to pursue other oppurtunities' with no public announcement until the band was prepared to put that information out there.

Which would have been about half past never. Seriously though even now they don't really address their future as a group when the do (rarely) speak to the media. It's left so much up to fan interpretation/speculation.

I think they pretty much were ok with him leaving if that's the way it had to be. But it should have been handled quietly as a group. That's what pissed me off the most about Jesse. The total disrepect for the efforts of everyone else. He could leave, but there is a right and wrong way to handle that. Fueding and public discord is bad business for a band in the process of locking down tour deals.

As for the lack of any tangible plans 3 months into the latest breakup, I would guess the reason for that is essentially legal shti. And also a desire to NOT have this happen to them in the future. But it's my strong impression, that these guys haven't caved in at all, they are not giving up, and one way or another new music and more concert dates are coming.

ea1313 said:

Mong said:

Jesse really comes across as a major dick saying this. He's a coward who couldn't tell the band who gave him a solo spot at their gigs that he was leaving. What an ego. He's a very good guitarist but he can't sing to save his life and his songs are weak with a few exceptions. Trust me, he will leave D'Angelo's band at some point this year. He thinks he's on Prince's level...he needs a major reality check.

"Celebrities" need to spellcheck and/or edit. Seeing things like this make me cringe.

Thank you! I was thinking, "Maybe ole Jesse too riled up to spell check?"

I understand that Jesse needed to make money from the O7 project. What I do not understand is why he didn't simply tell his bandmates during the phone conference "look, folks, if nothing's organized, I need to make a living from music, and I have this offer from D'Angelo to play with him. As you haven't booked any gig for us so far, I will have to accept the offer from D'Angelo. Let me know if there are any O7 activities in the pipeline, but I can't promise you now that I will be available for it". Then leave it at that, stay silent on FB, don't announce you're leaving the band and see what will happen.

EmancipationLover said:

I understand that Jesse needed to make money from the O7 project. What I do not understand is why he didn't simply tell his bandmates during the phone conference "look, folks, if nothing's organized, I need to make a living from music, and I have this offer from D'Angelo to play with him. As you haven't booked any gig for us so far, I will have to accept the offer from D'Angelo. Let me know if there are any O7 activities in the pipeline, but I can't promise you now that I will be available for it". Then leave it at that, stay silent on FB, don't announce you're leaving the band and see what will happen.

Maybe Jesse hadn't made any decision to quit during the call. The others say he didn't mention he had any intention to leave. Perhaps after sitting around awhile, Jesse got upset and did a spur of the moment thing. People often don't think clearly when upset and just say things that they really don't mean. Still, he could have called the members when he decided to leave instead of putting it out on a site without warning. Then all of that "I'll spill the beans on the others" talk, when people complained about Jesse quitting, was not necessary at all. It seemed like the opposite of what he was saying in the group documentary. Jesse even calmed Morris down, when Morris was getting angry about the name change thing.

Militant said:

I love Jesse but I have serious issues with how this whole thing went down. A conference call the day before he posts that shit on Facebook with all 6 other bandmembers and he didn't say ONE word? He doesn't have a good enough relationship with ANY of the other 6 bandmembers to the point where he could have let one of them know? That shit just ain't right. And it's not fair at all to us fans who were really looking forward to seeing the O7 tour... and now it'll never happen.

THIS!^

PAPAROBBIE said:

From The Un-Effing-Believable Files!
MF's really, OMG, shouldn't comment on matters where you are on the way outside looking in. For 20+ years none of you M#%%^%F##%^s care if I played in the Time or not, but now you are acting like it's a religion. Just be happy for me when and where ever I find happiness and that happiness doesn't hurt anyone. I believe in personal and private details in life/business matters should stay just that.

And if, you only knew a small portion of the truth, you would would feel so very a shame of your your negative "Outside comments". Always pay attention to who's not making comments as apposed to who's flapping gums on the negative level of energy!!!! So to all nay sayers, Respectfully Fuck off and worry about getting your own house in order, because that's the only house I have a responsiblity or power to direct keep the peace.

Because believe me, the truth is so ugly and vile you wouldn't be able to handle it!!!! As I've stated before, this site "JESSEJOHNSONFAN"is for people that dig what I do or find what I do some what interesting.

BTW D'Angelo is more than just a job, he's blood, a best friend, an incredibley caring human being with a huge heart full of compassion, and a FUCKING INCREDIBLE TALENT! For the record we have had disagreements for years and years, but there is a very strong mutual unspoken respect between us. Let's just say brothers helping brothers! If you can get to that!!!
PeaceLove,
Jesse Johnson

He has a point.

But I think he shouldn't even bother responding to these folks because it just gets them off that they got reaction out of him and then people will use it to try and make him look bad as well.