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Reply #30 posted 04/13/09 7:41am

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Is this by any chance the album Prince wrote 4 her or something else?
Eye'm only interested if Prince wrote it...eye don't carte 4 her singing at all.
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Reply #31 posted 04/13/09 8:10am

udo

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PurpleRain747 said:

Is this by any chance the album Prince wrote 4 her or something else?
Eye'm only interested if Prince wrote it...eye don't carte 4 her singing at all.

Then why bother at all!?
P did NOT release his music he wrote for here/with her/etc.
So he did not approve, after all that happened.
Why would that material come out now?
And why would you be so interested?
He won't be playing, you don't like the singing...

Please put stuff into perspective.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #32 posted 04/13/09 8:42am

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udo said:

PurpleRain747 said:

Is this by any chance the album Prince wrote 4 her or something else?
Eye'm only interested if Prince wrote it...eye don't carte 4 her singing at all.

Then why bother at all!?
P did NOT release his music he wrote for here/with her/etc.
So he did not approve, after all that happened.
Why would that material come out now?
And why would you be so interested?
He won't be playing, you don't like the singing...

Please put stuff into perspective.


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Reply #33 posted 04/13/09 9:19am

RodeoSchro

PurpleRain747 said:

Is this by any chance the album Prince wrote 4 her or something else?
Eye'm only interested if Prince wrote it...eye don't carte 4 her singing at all.


It's something else.
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Reply #34 posted 04/13/09 9:55am

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Prince so fucked her over...damn basterd.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #35 posted 04/13/09 10:00am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Prince so fucked her over...damn basterd.

I don't think it was Prince, I think it was Universal.
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Reply #36 posted 04/13/09 10:19am

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2freaky4church1 said:

Prince so fucked her over...damn basterd.




you misspelled bastard biggrin
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Reply #37 posted 04/13/09 10:35am

RodeoSchro

daPrettyman said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Prince so fucked her over...damn basterd.

I don't think it was Prince, I think it was Universal.


I think you're right.
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Reply #38 posted 04/13/09 10:36am

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daPrettyman said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Prince so fucked her over...damn basterd.

I don't think it was Prince, I think it was Universal.

It was Universal.
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Reply #39 posted 04/13/09 12:22pm

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when is it gonna b released??

does any1 no??
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Reply #40 posted 04/13/09 12:56pm

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Best wishes! smile
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Reply #41 posted 04/13/09 1:39pm

JEDINATION

U Go Girl !!
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Reply #42 posted 04/13/09 7:24pm

1817

what lable is she with or it this a indie effort?

It will b interesting to see if she can muster up any noteable interest (air play/chart success). I wish her all the best.

Its a shame Pricne has had no successful protege hit a high note for about 10+ years..... That is on the charts not in the bedroom ; ).
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Reply #43 posted 04/13/09 7:33pm

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Every body Dance With Prince Is Slamming O+>
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Reply #44 posted 04/14/09 2:02am

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[b]wowwww yes i have it and it's awesome.tamar has a wonderful strong and beauitful singing voice.i really got pissed off when i heard my favorite song on tamar c.d redone on bria c.d. kept women.prince never took a song from 1 artist and gave it to another except for himself.i was very disapointed in him for this.it seem his ego got in the way.
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Reply #45 posted 04/14/09 4:59am

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Where is the Tamar CD to compare both versions?
(no, not asking for booties at all)
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #46 posted 04/14/09 5:27am

SoulAlive

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Every body Dance With Prince Is Slamming O+>


hmmm I think you're referring to "Everybody Dance" by Tamara and The Seen,a 1985 single produced by Jesse Johnson.Prince has nothing to do with that song.Interestingly,"Tamara" is actually Margie Cox,who later worked with Prince (remember "Standing At The Altar"?).
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Reply #47 posted 04/14/09 6:07am

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pandorabox said:

[b]wowwww yes i have it and it's awesome.tamar has a wonderful strong and beauitful singing voice.i really got pissed off when i heard my favorite song on tamar c.d redone on bria c.d. kept women.prince never took a song from 1 artist and gave it to another except for himself.i was very disapointed in him for this.it seem his ego got in the way.


True, but is seems Tamar's name is on the credits on the Lotusflow3r cd, so maybe that is the song (Kept Woman) he gave her credit on, besides the fact it states Tamar is one of the vocalists on the lotusflow3r cd, but it does not state specifically which song. At least I dont' think it does. I have to go back and check the liner notes on the site to see if it states specifically which song Tamar received credit for.
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Reply #48 posted 04/14/09 9:05am

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maybe i am being naive but I don't think p would fuck anyone over - not intentionally at least - I just can't believe that about him. Tamar is good and I wish I could stay one more day to see her - I really hope her album does well even if it is not Milk & Honey.

We don't know what goes on so we shouldn't judge
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Reply #49 posted 04/14/09 9:41am

Graycap23

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maybe i am being naive but I don't think p would fuck anyone over - not intentionally at least - I just can't believe that about him. Tamar is good and I wish I could stay one more day to see her - I really hope her album does well even if it is not Milk & Honey.

We don't know what goes on so we shouldn't judge

U N I V E R S A L issue.
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Reply #50 posted 04/14/09 10:52pm

udo

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Graycap23 said:

U N I V E R S A L issue.

Please elaborate.
Info needed.
Per, are you reading?
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Reply #51 posted 04/14/09 11:03pm

IWBYLOVER

I will be there. Hopefully I can get on stage with her again.
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Reply #52 posted 04/15/09 12:59am

udo

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We want pics!
And I can't ask for bootlegs, unfortunately.
Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #53 posted 04/15/09 8:11am

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2elijah said:

pandorabox said:

[b]wowwww yes i have it and it's awesome.tamar has a wonderful strong and beauitful singing voice.i really got pissed off when i heard my favorite song on tamar c.d redone on bria c.d. kept women.prince never took a song from 1 artist and gave it to another except for himself.i was very disapointed in him for this.it seem his ego got in the way.


True, but is seems Tamar's name is on the credits on the Lotusflow3r cd, so maybe that is the song (Kept Woman) he gave her credit on, besides the fact it states Tamar is one of the vocalists on the lotusflow3r cd, but it does not state specifically which song. At least I dont' think it does. I have to go back and check the liner notes on the site to see if it states specifically which song Tamar received credit for.

Tamar was a writer. She discussed how she and Prince wrote the songs for her album.

As for Tamar being included on Lotus, I feel those tracks were recorded while they were promoting and writing for the 3121 and Milk and Honey projects.
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Reply #54 posted 04/15/09 8:26am

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daPrettyman said:

2elijah said:



True, but is seems Tamar's name is on the credits on the Lotusflow3r cd, so maybe that is the song (Kept Woman) he gave her credit on, besides the fact it states Tamar is one of the vocalists on the lotusflow3r cd, but it does not state specifically which song. At least I dont' think it does. I have to go back and check the liner notes on the site to see if it states specifically which song Tamar received credit for.

Tamar was a writer. She discussed how she and Prince wrote the songs for her album.

As for Tamar being included on Lotus, I feel those tracks were recorded while they were promoting and writing for the 3121 and Milk and Honey projects.


Thanks, I saw her MTV interview back in 2006 and yes, I remember her stating that. Just wasn't sure which song she is a vocalist on, on Prince's Lotusflow3r cd. Also, not sure if anyone is hearing a 2nd female's voice on "Elixir", but it sounds a bit like Tamar's voice somewhere in that song as well in the middle of that song, because if you listen to Tamar's song "Runaway" on her site, there's a part in "Elixer" that sounds just like her voice, similar to what I am hearing on the "Elixer" track. Too bad there's no official way to confirm this from Prince's team.
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Reply #55 posted 04/15/09 12:36pm

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


I don't think it was Prince, I think it was Universal.

It was Universal.


I don't think Tamar was 100% innocent in what happened (or Prince for that matter).
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Reply #56 posted 04/15/09 1:27pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

Graycap23 said:


It was Universal.


I don't think Tamar was 100% innocent in what happened (or Prince for that matter).

confuse Please explain ur theory?

Mine is that Universal listened to the project and didn't think it was marketable enough. Even with her on tour promoting it and selling out venues, it wasn't enough. Not to mention, they didn't know which audience to market her to. She is not the typical "Beyonce-type" that's selling now. No matter how talented she is, the media is not going to accept an unknown that isn't a Beyonce-clone at this moment.
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Reply #57 posted 04/15/09 1:35pm

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daPrettyman said:

DevotedPuppy said:



I don't think Tamar was 100% innocent in what happened (or Prince for that matter).

confuse Please explain ur theory?

Mine is that Universal listened to the project and didn't think it was marketable enough. Even with her on tour promoting it and selling out venues, it wasn't enough. Not to mention, they didn't know which audience to market her to. She is not the typical "Beyonce-type" that's selling now. No matter how talented she is, the media is not going to accept an unknown that isn't a Beyonce-clone at this moment.


My theory is that Tamar got too self-important and didn't want to take all of Prince's advice (e.g. wouldn't do what he told her). At the same time, (for whatever reason), Universal & Prince had a falling out and promotion for the 3121 projects ceased. I think that Universal only agreed to release Tamar's album because they wanted Prince. When relations between Prince & Universal soured, they dropped Tamar because they never really wanted to spend the money on her anyway--they just agreed as part of the Prince deal. Prince didn't fight for Universal to release her album, or choose to release it through NPG himself (which he could have done, right?) because he & Tamar had also had a falling out.

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Reply #58 posted 04/15/09 1:48pm

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DevotedPuppy said:

daPrettyman said:


confuse Please explain ur theory?

Mine is that Universal listened to the project and didn't think it was marketable enough. Even with her on tour promoting it and selling out venues, it wasn't enough. Not to mention, they didn't know which audience to market her to. She is not the typical "Beyonce-type" that's selling now. No matter how talented she is, the media is not going to accept an unknown that isn't a Beyonce-clone at this moment.


My theory is that Tamar got too self-important and didn't want to take all of Prince's advice (e.g. wouldn't do what he told her). At the same time, (for whatever reason), Universal & Prince had a falling out and promotion for the 3121 projects ceased. I think that Universal only agreed to release Tamar's album because they wanted Prince. When relations between Prince & Universal soured, they dropped Tamar because they never really wanted to spend the money on her anyway--they just agreed as part of the Prince deal. Prince didn't fight for Universal to release her album, or choose to release it through NPG himself (which he could have done, right?) because he & Tamar had also had a falling out.

Just my twocents.

That's a good theory also. It makes sense from the other side of the coin.

Your theory gives way to mine that "Guitar" is all about Tamar.
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Reply #59 posted 04/15/09 5:17pm

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[b]wowwww yes i have it and it's awesome.tamar has a wonderful strong and beauitful singing voice.i really got pissed off when i heard my favorite song on tamar c.d redone on bria c.d. kept women.prince never took a song from 1 artist and gave it to another except for himself.i was very disapointed in him for this.it seem his ego got in the way.


"never took a song from 1 artist and gave it to another except for himself"

He has done it lots of times. eek
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