laurarichardson said:

Actulaly, I know he did contribute money to her charity. That's not the point.

The point is she was not allowed to broadcast or sell recordings of the songs he owns publishing for, which could have earned even more money for th charity.

This is pointless though. Clearly you will defend anything he does.

laurarichardson said:

I'm beginning to think the problem a lot of these folks have is that Prince's music does not fall under Public Domain and they think it should be for some strange reason.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

****'em.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Not at all. What is strange is that Prince who is Sheila's friend and supports her charity, didn't let her sell the Family Jamm to earn more money for charity.

Who said it should be public domain? Typical fam response.

Zannaloaf said:

Your kidding right? Prince is an all Pro/SUperbowl/Hall of Fame athlete
the others are minor league.
IN 7 MEASURES.

GaryMF said:

No not really. But the "prince should let friends and former associates do whatever they want with his music" theme is typical of the folks who are bitter fan holdover's from the 80's.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

Uhhhh... not quite.

Who said "do whatever they want with his music?" I was referring to a charity event by one if his longest standing friends, with proceeds going to a charity he already supports.

Moreover, the people playing said music were the ones who played it originally and were playing it true to his vision. Not bastardizing it or changing it.

So your lame attempt at a comeback actually makes no sense. And if anyone is bitter, it sure isn't me.

How about a serious, rational reason why he wouldn't give permission to sell recordings of the for charity?

GaryMF said:

I was talking about the overall theme of folks banging on Prince because he won't let xxx past bandmember, or xxx old girlfriend use his music to promote whatever it is they're doing now. It matters not if it's a charity, especially since in the Angel Bunny event or whatever Sheila was doing he donated cold hard cash. Which in the case of that charity that's what was needed --- $$$ not a dvd that may or maynot sell.

And frankly just because said old friends or bandmembers participated in playing on the songs doesn't mean they should get an automatic pass to use his material. If they actually helped write the songs then shame on them for not suing his ass years ago for their share of the copyright entitlement. If they were employed as session musicians at that time their participation was employer to employee end of story.

So Prince won't allow them to be called The Family, but The Time are still known as The Time. That doesn't seem fair to me. Both groups were Prince inventions. Prince would be more likeable if he wasn't so controlling.

Ifsixwuz9 said:

I'm not familiar with former bandmembers wanting to use his music to promote themselves.....

But I still think the Family Jamm thing was just spiteful. Yes he donated cash which is why it's crazy he wouldn't let Sheila release the DVD. I mean....why the f*ck not??? What is the point other than spite?? Yes, as the copyright owner it's his legal right..... but what is the point??? It seems petty and spiteful.

No one has yet to give a rational reason why he wouldn't want Sheila to be allowed to sell those DVDs. Saying "it's his music he can do what he wants" is true but it still doesn't answer the question.

And in terms of people performing his music, he actually cannot control that. Anyone can cover anything as long as they pay the performance royalty. the problem is when you then try to sell it as a recording.

GaryMF said:

Maybe there's a lot of beef behind the scenes with all those involve. Perhaps slurs and insults were thrown back and forth and maybe Prince said fuck it, let them sell their own music. I know its charity but I get the feeling Prince's relationship with his past associates are very strained and that could be the reason why he made that decision (and didn't show up either).

GaryMF said:

The answer is right in FRONT of U. Why would Prince address such a question? 2 please u? Don't think so.

Graycap23 said:

I put the question out here to the people who keep defending his every move.

No one has yet to suggest a rational reason why he wouldn't let the Family Jamm be sold on DVD etc.

I've already stated it is his right to not allow it. The question is why not?

Your reply is just yet another example of a lemming-like fam just defending without actually trying to provide any logical, rational reasoning to the discourse.

You're probably the type who sent in his bootlegs to Paisley Park when he asked you to do that too. Oh wait, you probably never had any because he told you not to get them.

GaryMF said:

Lol.....U have no idea what u are talking about.
Keep talking.....U are good 4 a laugh.

Graycap23 said:

You STILL haven't suggested a rational answer to my question.

What is a rational reason you could think of that Prince would not give permission to sell DVDs of the Family Jamm? I'm serious. The reason I ask is because the only one I can come up with is pettiness and spite and I'd prefer not think of hi that way

So..... seriously.... what is a rational answer?

U continue 2 seek answers
2 another man's actions
Then u wonder why
U're brain is in fractions.....

Graycap23 said:

By your inability to answer my question, you are just proving that there is no other reason other than spite and pettiness, yet you can't seem to actually admit it.

It's called discourse..... intellectual curiosity..... "thought". Maybe these concepts are over your head. Pity.

GaryMF said:

Do u honestly think that insulting other posters is effective?

Graycap23 said:

I've tried several times in earnest to ask for a reasonable response and your replies have been to spout lyrics.

I'm not insulting, I'm stating facts.

And again..... STILL NO type of thoughtful response. Speaks volumes.

GaryMF said:

Perhaps u should re-read reply #131

Graycap23 said:

Reply #131 you just repeat what I already state..... "it's his music". I already stated that upfront. That is not in question.

The question is, given that it's his right to not allow, WHY would he not allow it??? WHY choose not to?

Do you not understand the difference???

lipstick said:

WORD!

GaryMF said:

Apparently.....U don't understand.

GaryMF said:

I'll just say this about the Family Jamm dvd or whatever they wanted to do. I don't really think it had anything to do with people involved per se. I think it was more he didn't want boots of the dvd floating around. Granted he wasn't participating but it is his work. And despite what many fans will say about giving to the charity and so on there are just as many who could give a damn about the charity and would download it for free and sell the thing to other fans for profit. All Prince fans aren't as altruistic as they would have you think.

Graycap23 said:

Uh.... no.

As usual your reply makes no sense. This is getting pointless.

You have now proven multiple times that you are incapable of either understanding simple logic and answering a simple question, or you are just purposely being a jerk. Either way you are making yourself look like a fool IMO.

Thus, I won't bother trying to have a rational conversation with you any more.

If anyone else has a rational reply to my original question, feel free to respond.

Listen! at the end of the day I not so secretly hope Susannah said something hurtful so Prince will actually write something outstanding again!!! I personally feel its screwed he waited to the last minute to tell them this. As far as him owning the Time moniker, it doesn't seem so cut & dry since those guys were together(Flyte Time) before his involvement. At least that was my understanding of it

GaryMF said:

Getting pointless? Your original question was pointless. Looks like we have gone full circle.

GaryMF said:

If your referring to your question of why he wouldn't let them do the dvd. See my theory re-posted below.

I'll just say this about the Family Jamm dvd or whatever they wanted to do. I don't really think it had anything to do with people involved per se. I think it was more he didn't want boots of the dvd floating around. Granted he wasn't participating but it is his work. And despite what many fans will say about giving to the charity and so on there are just as many who could give a damn about the charity and would download it for free and sell the thing to other fans for profit. All Prince fans aren't as altruistic as they would have you think.

GaryMF said:

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No it is not a typical fam response. Some people on this board seem to think that former associates and protegees have carte blanche to do what they want with this music. They do not and would not if anyone else owned the copyright.

P is really no different than companies that own copyrights. If they do not want you using the material you can't use it. End of story.

Graycap23 said: