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Reply #30 posted 01/09/09 7:10am

ButterscotchPi
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Graycap23 said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




(playing devil's advocate)

which would be.....

Not going 2 play that game.



Prince apologists never cease to amaze me.
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Reply #31 posted 01/09/09 7:11am

SoulAlive

some other ideas....

Family Gathering

Family Meeting

A New Kind Of Family

The Funk Family
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Reply #32 posted 01/09/09 7:20am

ladygirl99

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ladygirl99 said:



Perhaps it makes more sense to use this: http://search.twitter.com...ndyandlisa -- that way you'll also see replies etc.

Thank You BartVanHemelen! cool
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Reply #33 posted 01/09/09 7:27am

ladygirl99

JudasLChrist said:

Why is Prince always so difficult about EVERYTHING?


That is the way he is Im afraid.

I am just happy that the Family is going to still release their album regardless.

Also here goes their website right here where people can also tell them about their name ideas.
www.myspace.com/allthewayvogue
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Reply #34 posted 01/09/09 7:46am

Mong

SoulAlive said:

some other ideas....

Family Gathering

Family Meeting

A New Kind Of Family

The Funk Family


Or maybe call it Fuck Prince?
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Reply #35 posted 01/09/09 7:49am

Graycap23

ButterscotchPimp said:

Graycap23 said:


Not going 2 play that game.



Prince apologists never cease to amaze me.

lol.....u have no idea what u are talking about.
That does amaze me.
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Reply #36 posted 01/09/09 7:53am

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SoulAlive said:

Graycap23 said:

The NEW Family.


hmmm that could work.Here are some other names they could consider...

Family Tree

The Minneapolis Family

St.Paul And Family


I like: The Redheaded Stepchildren.

But I may just be snarky.
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Reply #37 posted 01/09/09 7:57am

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Personally, I think this is a non-issue.

1: The few thousand folks that really, really care about a new "Family" album already know it's coming. Once it drops, the word will spread like wildfire through the Prince / Wendy & Lisa / associated fan communities.

2A: For potential new fans, the old name makes it exceedingly hard to find information on them. Trying to Google or database search for a generic name like "The Family"? Been doing it for years - and it's a pain in the neck. From a simple name recognition / branding perspective, it's a terrible name.

2B: Also, the old Prince association (for those who make it) is probably also a liability. Better to start with a new name.

3: Besides, this makes a great story for reports if they're trying to get some publicity for the new album. Prince might have given them the best marketing angle yet. wink
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Reply #38 posted 01/09/09 7:58am

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Alliasan said:

Personally, I think this is a non-issue.

1: The few thousand folks that really, really care about a new "Family" album already know it's coming. Once it drops, the word will spread like wildfire through the Prince / Wendy & Lisa / associated fan communities.

2A: For potential new fans, the old name makes it exceedingly hard to find information on them. Trying to Google or database search for a generic name like "The Family"? Been doing it for years - and it's a pain in the neck. From a simple name recognition / branding perspective, it's a terrible name.

2B: Also, the old Prince association (for those who make it) is probably a liability rather than benefit. Better to start with a new name for a new generation of fans.

3: Besides, this makes a great story for reports if they're trying to get some publicity for the new album. Prince might have given them the best marketing angle yet. wink
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Reply #39 posted 01/09/09 9:06am

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Graycap23 said:

ButterscotchPimp said:




(playing devil's advocate)

which would be.....

Not going 2 play that game.


Why not? You started the game. You just trying to be cryptic? Trying to bring attention to yrself that you have insider information that others don't?

Shit or get off the pot, as they say.
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Reply #40 posted 01/09/09 9:09am

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How about FAMILY NAME razz Heh heh, I like that one.
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Reply #41 posted 01/09/09 9:09am

Graycap23

JudasLChrist said:

Graycap23 said:


Not going 2 play that game.


Why not? You started the game. You just trying to be cryptic? Trying to bring attention to yrself that you have insider information that others don't?

Shit or get off the pot, as they say.

Lol.....in case u have not noticed.
Prince is doing a good job of communicating with his fanbase.....his way.
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Reply #42 posted 01/09/09 9:11am

JudasLChrist

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Graycap23 said:

JudasLChrist said:



Why not? You started the game. You just trying to be cryptic? Trying to bring attention to yrself that you have insider information that others don't?

Shit or get off the pot, as they say.

Lol.....in case u have not noticed.
Prince is doing a good job of communicating with his fanbase.....his way.


And?
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Reply #43 posted 01/09/09 9:26am

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U might say "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck
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Reply #44 posted 01/09/09 9:46am

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madartista said:



U might say "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck



LOL I love it! falloff
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Reply #45 posted 01/09/09 10:41am

SoulAlive

They could call themselves "The Family Affair" and add the Sly Stone song to their setlist!
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Reply #46 posted 01/09/09 10:47am

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madartista said:



U might say "what U mad about?"
But U still got your family name
Pleased 2 meet U Mr. Goldstruck


AWESOME!
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Reply #47 posted 01/09/09 11:22am

BartVanHemelen

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toots said:

I hate to tell you this but you can receive phone alerts via twitter


I know. And it still doesn't mean you're off the hook for not quoting them verbatim.

toots said:

yes I am a part of it


No you're not. You're just someone who's got an account on Twitter and who follows W&L's tweets. Like hundreds of others.

toots said:[quote] No need to be rude either k what I said was the last thing that came through on my alerts tyvm. I posted it right after I received it.

Another you can see who is "following" you as well. And yeah They are following me.All you have to do is click on the "followers" section to know WHO is following you.

toots said:

IF you have twitter which appearently you don't


Of course I've got Twitter. How else do you think I compiled that list with the Tweets about the Family?
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Reply #48 posted 01/09/09 11:22am

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the family was Prince's baby. He wrote the songs and then gave them credit. Paul quit on him and his relationship with Susannuh failed. Why should he be willing to let them use His name? Paul had his chance and blew it.

So since Prince is not involved why should they use that name? Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.
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Reply #49 posted 01/09/09 11:36am

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tricky99 said:

the family was Prince's baby. He wrote the songs and then gave them credit. Paul quit on him and his relationship with Susannuh failed. Why should he be willing to let them use His name? Paul had his chance and blew it.

So since Prince is not involved why should they use that name? Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.


Cause it's been 20 years and it aint just about him...and it's no skin off his ass, really. Holding them from using the name is just him being vindictive, and it's jerk-y.
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Reply #50 posted 01/09/09 11:52am

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tricky99 said:

So since Prince is not involved why should they use that name? Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.

so since prince is not involved why should the time use that name?

it is his legal right just as it is his right to be an asshole. and he's doing a great job of both.
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Reply #51 posted 01/09/09 12:01pm

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madartista said:

tricky99 said:

So since Prince is not involved why should they use that name? Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.

so since prince is not involved why should the time use that name?

it is his legal right just as it is his right to be an asshole. and he's doing a great job of both.


maybe he feels more in tune with the folks in the time. Why do they want to use the name the family anyway since that whole thing collapsed on a sour note. u would think they would want to distance themselves from prince instead of using his concept.
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Reply #52 posted 01/09/09 12:05pm

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Anyway really without prince its not the family anyway. so no need to use the name. it would be a misnomer. None of those folks really brought anything particularly to the table. I don't even get what would be interesting about an album created by that group of folk. Has any of them actually created any great music on their own?
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Reply #53 posted 01/09/09 12:23pm

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tricky99 said:

maybe he feels more in tune with the folks in the time. Why do they want to use the name the family anyway since that whole thing collapsed on a sour note. u would think they would want to distance themselves from prince instead of using his concept.

i do agree with you on this. obviously there is a comfort he has with the time that he doesn't with the family. but if they (the time) are also working on a new album without him, then it negates the argument "if prince isn't involved..." who knows, maybe if the album does materialize he'll pull that card on them as well. whatever the case, i do agree they're better off without the name and any tie to him.
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Reply #54 posted 01/09/09 12:30pm

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tricky99 said:

Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.


But why would he "not feel all that good" about Susannah? She was his lover, companion and muse for years. I'd never be that mean to an ex-lover (however awful the split may have been at the time).

I wonder if either Wendy or Lisa fallen-out with him recently and he's getting back at them indirectly by hurting Susannah? A few things draw me to this conclusion...

01. Lisa's rather indiscreet interview which was published recently;
02. The lyrics to Wendy & Lisa's 'Invisible';
03. The fact that Wendy posted about the matter at all on her Twitter feed.
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Reply #55 posted 01/09/09 12:56pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

toots said:

I hate to tell you this but you can receive phone alerts via twitter


I know. And it still doesn't mean you're off the hook for not quoting them verbatim.

(in bold)Um I DID quote them HELLO???? Re read the sentences above tyvm rolleyes off the hook wtf I was never on the hook tyvm get off your high pedestal. I took it from the last message if you read this part:
wendyandlisa : it is what it is folks.. he owns the name... its his invention if he doesnt give his blessing then th ey have to stop..

(btw it did come from twitter lol)



No you're not. You're just someone who's got an account on Twitter and who follows W&L's tweets. Like hundreds of others.
Then how come I have to give them permission to follow me as well? hmmm

toots said:

No need to be rude either k what I said was the last thing that came through on my alerts tyvm. I posted it right after I received it.

Another you can see who is "following" you as well. And yeah They are following me.All you have to do is click on the "followers" section to know WHO is following you.

toots said:

IF you have twitter which appearently you don't


Of course I've got Twitter. How else do you think I compiled that list with the Tweets about the Family?



falloff appearently YOU DID NOT know about twitter via phone or you not have accused me of trying to make stuff up(Ill quoting YOU from your post) :

Twitter messages are available online, so you don't need to invent anything.

And now your trying to make it look like you didnt say it when you did, now that is funny falloff Maybe you should re read ur posts.

But w/e dude since you want to try and bait me into a argument w/e k but Im the one quoting what YOU type.

Now are you going to try and tell me people cant have full internet on our phones falloff
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Reply #56 posted 01/09/09 2:12pm

ladygirl99

tricky99 said:

madartista said:


so since prince is not involved why should the time use that name?

it is his legal right just as it is his right to be an asshole. and he's doing a great job of both.


maybe he feels more in tune with the folks in the time. Why do they want to use the name the family anyway since that whole thing collapsed on a sour note. u would think they would want to distance themselves from prince instead of using his concept.


You know I would thought that since half of the Family members are also still the Time members or continues to be involve with the band and I assumed that Prince do still keep somewhat contact with them that he would allow them use the Family name anyway. But I guess he really remains having grudge issues with Paul not sure about Susannah. Prince certainly do hold years and years of grudges to people who he felt that did him wrong.
But anyway no biggie and people should lets move on about this. Prince is always going to be a control freak asshole, nothing new. If this setback didn't dampen the mood in The Family camp neither should us and the Family is still going to release their album and I will be one of the first getting it. razz
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Reply #57 posted 01/09/09 2:36pm

ladygirl99

GirlBrother said:

tricky99 said:

Just because u don't want something u created to be used by some folk u might not feel all that good about doesn't make u an asshole.


But why would he "not feel all that good" about Susannah? She was his lover, companion and muse for years. I'd never be that mean to an ex-lover (however awful the split may have been at the time).

I wonder if either Wendy or Lisa fallen-out with him recently and he's getting back at them indirectly by hurting Susannah? A few things draw me to this conclusion...

01. Lisa's rather indiscreet interview which was published recently;
02. The lyrics to Wendy & Lisa's 'Invisible';
03. The fact that Wendy posted about the matter at all on her Twitter feed.


Wendy and Lisa basically have a love and hate relationship with Prince and vice versa since the early 80s. If they all are angry at each other right now then I am sure in the next few months, Prince is going to send them an email, 'Hey Lisa Eye Need U 2 Add A Keyboard line on this song Eye Been Workin On.' Like I said Lisa understands Prince better than almost anyone else. They (especially Lisa and Prince) have this very deep brother/sister type of relationship. They love each other one minute but they cant stand each other the next. Very complex, more is to it than meets the eye, indeed.

I don't understand what you mean by Prince hurting Susannah for not allowing her to use the Family name. I bet that she was disappointed but however they have move on with the name issue and like I said in my last above post so should the rest of us. And also Prince have his way of granting people's permission when it comes to using something he owns and always have and always will be so The Family members shouldn't be so suprised and devasting with the predictable outcome. I am just glad that they are going to still release their album and that is the most important part. It would be cool if The Family or Family 2.0 and Wendy Lisa would do a mini tour together later on this year. They can invite some of their more famous musicial friends along with them like Questlove and Erykah Badu and Nikka Costa to get more response with the tour.
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Reply #58 posted 01/10/09 12:14am

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Wasn't Sonny T in a band called The Family? Shouldn't he sue Prince?

These guys are associated with the name The Family too.

Shouldn't they sue?




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Reply #59 posted 01/10/09 2:31am

BartVanHemelen

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toots said:

(in bold)Um I DID quote them HELLO????


No, you didn't.

Here, lemme quote your first post in this thread:

toots said:

The message I did receive was something like this:
"It is what it is folks...its his invention...he has not gave his blessing yet"- Wendy


Now here's the W&L quote:

it is what it is folks.. he owns the name... its his invention if he doesnt give his blessing then th ey have to stop..


Can you spot the difference? Lemme help you: "he has not gave his blessing yet" versus "if he doesnt give his blessing then th ey have to stop". One is a direct quote, the other is stuff you made up.

toots said:

Then how come I have to give them permission to follow me as well? hmmm


Because you're one of those people who protect their Tweets? Newsflash: I bet W&L follow everyone who's following them.

toots said:

falloff appearently YOU DID NOT know about twitter via phone or you not have accused me of trying to make stuff up


Honey, stop making a fool of yourself. It's YOU who doesn't understand something basic: that it's IRRELEVANT that you got the message on your phone. Yes, Twitter can send updates to phones, but the original message is still available online. You didn't bother to look up the original message online, and instead posted your (incorrect) version of it, which is completely unnecessary. As I proved by posting W&L's ORIGINAL message, and a bunch of other messages. And I provided links to the original messages on Twitter so anyone could look them up and figure out that I didn't make them up.
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