Ifsixwuz9 said: I'm not really seeing all this dance expertise on Mayte's part. I don't care if she's been taking lessons since she was 4. Sure the middle eastern belly dance moves, ok that was cool for the stuff that was on the Symbol album, but did not work well with a lot of the rest of Prince's music. For example, the video for Loose. All she did was swing her hair around in various directions, and kick her leg up. Then for a little variety she would do that same belly dance move that she did in the "Love 2 the 9's" video. Same thing for the Endorphin Machine performance on Vh1 back in '94.
Most of the other time all she did was pose, poke out her butt, flutter her hands in the air or roll around on the floor with her legs spread eagle. Any stipper can do that. . [Edited 3/14/05 16:46pm] How do you know Prince didn't want her to dance that way. Maybe he instructed her to dance like that to amp up the sex appeal during his shows. Mayte can do many forms of dance not just sexy dancing. | |
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VanitySixx said: Mayte is a dancer. Cat can't dance to me, she's definitely an amateur. Most of the time (In SOTT) all she did was shake around like she was having seizures and pantomime.
I just saw SOTT for the first time a few days ago. Cat can not dance. I would not call what she did dancing. Anyone could have done that. Mayte can dance circles around her. | |
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Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. [Edited 3/15/05 12:45pm] I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. Exactly! Did you order a pizza ma'am? Prince- UTCM | |
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BeautifulOneJem said: VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. Exactly! Oh pleeze guys! So he was interested in her romanticaly. So what? He was interested in Vanity sexually too. That's why he gave her a chance. In fact I think he worked with most of the women he worked with so he could hook up with them. If you were a man you would do the same thing. Just becuause he thought Mayte was hot does not make her unworthy of being in NPG. Love u Mayte!! | |
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Krystal666 said: Ifsixwuz9 said: I'm not really seeing all this dance expertise on Mayte's part. I don't care if she's been taking lessons since she was 4. Sure the middle eastern belly dance moves, ok that was cool for the stuff that was on the Symbol album, but did not work well with a lot of the rest of Prince's music. For example, the video for Loose. All she did was swing her hair around in various directions, and kick her leg up. Then for a little variety she would do that same belly dance move that she did in the "Love 2 the 9's" video. Same thing for the Endorphin Machine performance on Vh1 back in '94.
Most of the other time all she did was pose, poke out her butt, flutter her hands in the air or roll around on the floor with her legs spread eagle. Any stipper can do that. . [Edited 3/14/05 16:46pm] How do you know Prince didn't want her to dance that way. Maybe he instructed her to dance like that to amp up the sex appeal during his shows. Mayte can do many forms of dance not just sexy dancing. Mayte cannot do many forms of dance she is very limited whether you'd like to admit it or not. She doesn't have the body for ballet. And she's just not very good at freestyle modern dance. You can't (try as you might) make Prince the bad guy because Mayte is a mediocre talent as a dancer. Sorry ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. [Edited 3/15/05 12:45pm] Well sh*t and damn thank you. And I for the record I am not saying Cat is the best dancer in the world but she and Prince had great stage presence together. They complimented each other. Prince and Mayte did not. And as a matter of fact I've seen a lot of tape where he looked like he was trying to pay attention to her to make sure she didn't do anything retarded (like stage dive and bust her ass as she once did) and mess up the show or hurt somebody in the crowd. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. [Edited 3/15/05 12:45pm] u got that right nothing but eye candy | |
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VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. Exactly! Cat really brought alot to the table,and she's one of the reasons his 'SOTT' and 'Lovesexy' tours were so exciting.Mayte was just eye candy...nothing more,nothing less. | |
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fo sure it's Cat. She could get down like no other. I mean her moves were so unique, there's been no one like her in the camp. Plus her moves were soo...Prince. The Name's Apollonia, Apollonia James | |
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MAYTE. SHE KNEW ALOT OF DIFFERENT STYLES. | |
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1sexymf said: VanitySixx said: Mayte is a dancer. Cat can't dance to me, she's definitely an amateur. Most of the time (In SOTT) all she did was shake around like she was having seizures and pantomime.
I just saw SOTT for the first time a few days ago. Cat can not dance. I would not call what she did dancing. Anyone could have done that. Mayte can dance circles around her. I totally agree. Cat is aweful. Her feet are long too. Paul G II
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DavidEye said: VelvetJ said: Whenever this subject comes up, there is a part of me that feels slightly insulted. Isn't it obvious it's CAT of course? She fit with Prince like a hand in glove. They had a chemistry that hasn't been matched. They complimented each other's dancing perfectly. He seemed to enjoy dancing with her and she appeared to enjoy dancing with him. Mayte seemed more like a prop and almost a distraction while on stage with Prince.
Mayte, was good at her belly dancing thing. But other than that, to me she was just eye candy for the fella's whom Prince wanted to show off. Whenever I picture Mayte dancing, I only see someone slinging their hair around, trying hard to be hip and fit in with Prince's music. She didn't have a natural fit the way CAT did. Mayte really did nothing for me. If Prince wasn't romantically interested in her, I don't think she would have been in the band at all. Exactly! Cat really brought alot to the table,and she's one of the reasons his 'SOTT' and 'Lovesexy' tours were so exciting.Mayte was just eye candy...nothing more,nothing less. I agree. Cat had SOUL in her dancing. The Org is the short yellow bus of the Prince Internet fan community. | |
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Cat. There is this thing about her and Sheila both. You just can't help but love them.
Mayte gets close number two to cat Starrfighter | |
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[b]CAT
(meow...) She was doin' the Booty Quake long before Beyonce! I loved watching Prince slide between her legs and rip her dress off too... | |
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purpleunderground said: CAT
(meow...) She was doin' the Booty Quake long before Beyonce! I loved watching Prince slide between her legs and rip her dress off too... [b]Agreed. Cat was the origiantor of the Booty Bounce before Beyonce and definitely had more rhythm in her bones then Mayte ever had at all. | |
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Cat: energy & style
Mayte:grace & sexiness there's always a at the end of every rain! | |
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plus....Cat was REALLY the "female Prince" when it comes 2 dance!!...Prince'n'Cat were great 2gether on stage....check SOTT & Lovesexy tours.... there's always a at the end of every rain! | |
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Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does. | |
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I could watch Mayte dance forever. She has a great stage presence. A real grace that the others didn't have. | |
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Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
What the hell does it matter if shes latina?! Shes not talented. Personally I could care less what race any of his women are. Diamond and Pearl werent extraordinary dancers, but they were fun to watch. Better than Mayte anyways. We're talking talent here, not race. And She Doesnt Have It. Did you order a pizza ma'am? Prince- UTCM | |
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Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
WHAT?!?!?!?!?! You seriously think that those of us that think Cat was the better dancer with Prince, believe so because she was black and Mayte was Hispanic? Give me a freekin' break. Krystal666, did you see the Prince concert call "Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic", his New Years Eve Celebration? If so you will recall a blonde haired BLACK female dancer. Well, IMO, she was the weakest dancer to ever grace the stage with Prince. Mayte could dance circles around that girl. And her race has nothing to do with it. Face it, girls that dance like Mayte can be found a dime a dozen (go to any nightclub and check out the "Go Go" dancers and you will see that) and we all know that the chemistry that Prince and Cat had on stage has not been matched since she left. And that's the truth. Also regarding the whole Hispanic/White women comment you made, Prince "relating" better with them, says a lot about HIM. It is my belief that any man that developes a "preference" for those outside of his group, has issues. I did not say dating outside of your race was bad, but if a Indian man who was born and raised in a all Indian environment somehow develops a "preference" for women that are not Indian, and in fact will not date Indian women, that says a lot about HIM. In my life, I have met Asian's that do not find other Asians attractive, I have met whites that do not find other whites attractive, I have met Hispanics that are not attracted to other Hispanics, and I have met Blacks that are not attracted to other blacks. This is beyond simply having a "preference". This is about brainwashing, and falling into the sick belief that the white woman is the epitome of all beauty and the closer you are to looking like one, the more attractive you are considered, no matter what race you are. Prince, like most people in the world has become a victim of this belief. Again, as a black man, Prince and his long list of non-black women and very very few black women, says something sad about HIM. I am convinced Beyonce's career would not be where it is, if she had dark skin. | |
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VelvetJ said: Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
WHAT?!?!?!?!?! You seriously think that those of us that think Cat was the better dancer with Prince, believe so because she was black and Mayte was Hispanic? Give me a freekin' break. Krystal666, did you see the Prince concert call "Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic", his New Years Eve Celebration? If so you will recall a blonde haired BLACK female dancer. Well, IMO, she was the weakest dancer to ever grace the stage with Prince. Mayte could dance circles around that girl. And her race has nothing to do with it. Face it, girls that dance like Mayte can be found a dime a dozen (go to any nightclub and check out the "Go Go" dancers and you will see that) and we all know that the chemistry that Prince and Cat had on stage has not been matched since she left. And that's the truth. Also regarding the whole Hispanic/White women comment you made, Prince "relating" better with them, says a lot about HIM. It is my belief that any man that developes a "preference" for those outside of his group, has issues. I did not say dating outside of your race was bad, but if a Indian man who was born and raised in a all Indian environment somehow develops a "preference" for women that are not Indian, and in fact will not date Indian women, that says a lot about HIM. In my life, I have met Asian's that do not find other Asians attractive, I have met whites that do not find other whites attractive, I have met Hispanics that are not attracted to other Hispanics, and I have met Blacks that are not attracted to other blacks. This is beyond simply having a "preference". This is about brainwashing, and falling into the sick belief that the white woman is the epitome of all beauty and the closer you are to looking like one, the more attractive you are considered, no matter what race you are. Prince, like most people in the world has become a victim of this belief. Again, as a black man, Prince and his long list of non-black women and very very few black women, says something sad about HIM. True, but even though Prince grew up around mostly black people in his neighborhood it was still Minnesota which is mostly norwiegen/swedish/german populations, expecially back when he grew up there were far less black people in Mpls. compared to whites, so it is only inevatble that Prince would become attracted to women outside his race. BTW, I think Prince has been involved with more black women than you know, and for the record I DO think Cat and Prince had something special together and I like Cat...but actually SHE was the former go go dancer I belive and Mayte has been classicaly trained. Uggh I just hate it when people rip on Mayte because Prince exploited her sex appeal. | |
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Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
What are you talking about Krystle?? Mani is what, half Italian, half Egyptian, and where is Egypt? AFRICA! Enough said! "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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All for show. Mayte and Mani are 1st cousins their mothers are sisters. sorry if that was over your head...jump up and try to catch the point next time. | |
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prodigalfan said: Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
What are you talking about Krystle?? Mani is what, half Italian, half Egyptian, and where is Egypt? AFRICA! Enough said! Ehh? I was talking about Mayte not Mani. | |
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Krystal666 said: prodigalfan said: What are you talking about Krystle?? Mani is what, half Italian, half Egyptian, and where is Egypt? AFRICA! Enough said! Ehh? I was talking about Mayte not Mani. Here let me clarify: prodigalfan said:[quote] Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
Seems to me the woman he is relating to the best is a woman who can trace her roots back to Africa, not Puerto Rico. [Edited 4/30/05 12:53pm] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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prodigalfan said:[quote]Krystal666 said:[quote]
Here let me clarify: prodigalfan said: Krystal666 said: Uggh, I have the the sneeking suscpison that alot of women bitching about Mayte just don't like the fact that she was Puerto Rican and not black! Just like alot of people bitch about Carmen Electra, Diamond & Pearl, and other non-black women on this board. I mean Vanity gets nothing but compliments on here (and I love her and yes she is a godess) but I have had many conversations with black women who HATE it that Prince chose to work with white/hispanic women because he obviously favors them! I'm not saying that Prince dislikes black/mixed women at all we obviously know that he has been with many black/mixed women but he just must relate better to white/hispanic women. If Mayte did the exact same thing and she was black I think she wouldn't get half the "She sux" comments as she does.
Seems to me the woman he is relating to the best is a woman who can trace her roots back to Africa, not Puerto Rico. [Edited 4/30/05 12:53pm] Well I don't know I don't know Prince so I don't know who he relates to best but I do know alot of black girlfriends of mine and I hear what they have to say and see with my own eyes how black men who grew up in Minnesota treat them as opposed to me. Alot of black men seem to treat black women less respectfuly and think they can get away with more than I noticed with white/hispanic women...I really don't think Prince is that much of an exception really..just look at his music and who he wrote the most heartfelt profound songs for... Sushannah Melovin Mayte Carmen Electra he seems to treat black women as more like sex objects and actually seems treat white/hispanic as more girlfriends. I am definaltly NOT saying this is right I am simply stating an observation. BTW, since Mani is half itallian and half egyptian that would mean she has just as much European roots as African roots now wouldn't it? | |
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Krystal666 said: prodigalfan said: Seems to me the woman he is relating to the best is a woman who can trace her roots back to Africa, not Puerto Rico. [Edited 4/30/05 12:53pm] Well I don't know I don't know Prince so I don't know who he relates to best but I do know alot of black girlfriends of mine and I hear what they have to say and see with my own eyes how black men who grew up in Minnesota treat them as opposed to me. Alot of black men seem to treat black women less respectfuly and think they can get away with more than I noticed with white/hispanic women...I really don't think Prince is that much of an exception really..just look at his music and who he wrote the most heartfelt profound songs for... Sushannah Melovin Mayte Carmen Electra he seems to treat black women as more like sex objects and actually seems treat white/hispanic as more girlfriends. I am definaltly NOT saying this is right I am simply stating an observation. BTW, since Mani is half itallian and half egyptian that would mean she has just as much European roots as African roots now wouldn't it? ya, and NONE from Puerto Rico. Prince has his own preference for women just as all of us have a preference. His preference changes over time. I would say that some would say that Mayte was promoted as the biggest sex object of all that you have mentioned. appearing on stage in handcuffs, simulating blow jobs on stage. . In fact he has done none of this with his current love, who is half Egyptian/African and half Italian/white like Vanity (and looks a lot like Vanity). I guess what I am saying Krystal is that you with your self professed similiarity with Mayte isn't neccessarily Prince's ultimate woman. Since he MARRIED Mani and picked her OVER Mayte, maybe just maybe the Mayte look is not what he was looking for after all. Maybe he keeps going back again and again to the Vanity look (who some say look very similar to his first girlfriend who is ALL black, Susan Moonsie). : Maybe it is just as well you haven't met Prince after all, it would appear that you (contrary to your own belief) are not his type after all. [Edited 4/30/05 13:45pm] "Remember, one man's filler is another man's killer" -- Haystack | |
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