Just a heads-up, Casey is now known as "CaseyRain" and not "Militant" any longer. A nice peaceful change

Hey Ben, can you please check your PM's. Thank you!

ben said:

Just a heads-up, Casey is now known as "CaseyRain" and not "Militant" any longer. A nice peaceful change

Hey ben, as penny already asked, please can you check your org notes? Some of us really have valid complaints, and feel like they're not being taken seriously. thank you.

I think, with all due respect of course, that we should use this thread to outwardly make our complaints known about the perceived misuse of power by (now) CaseyRain in banning another fellow org member for nothing more then pointing out something wrong in what he posted. I, like many others, think it's wrong, and should be rectified immediately. I also believe there needs to be a PUNITIVE response to Militant...err...CaseyRain for abusing that power the way he did. I'm hoping others will post herein about it and not just use the private, org.notes feature to do so. Thanks.

I'm trying not to get too involved with this drama because I know that I could go on forever posting about it and cracking wise, and that's just a waste of time, so let me keep my thoughts brief...

For quite a while I've been thinking "this guy is a massive goofball" about our friend Casey. Usually that goofballness involves him acting like he has insider info so that he can promote his YouTube channel, which really is a goofball thing to do. Anyway, my point is that everytime I start to think "he's not so bad, I should stop making fun of this goofball" he pulls some shit like this and it's... woah. I mean it doesn't really matter since it's just dumb forum drama, but the two he banned are very nice and very informative people who have contributed a great deal to the atmosphere of this place.

The fact is that Casey made a goofball move, him and his award winning cousin, and instead of just laughing it off like the rest of us wanted to do, he doubled down and abused his power to ban two people who were just saying the correct things in the first place. That's a baby move, to be honest. What was so hard about admitting he was wrong and just having a good old laugh, I'll never understand it. The thread would've been buried by now and no one would've even remembered it, yet here we are.

Absolutely gutted.

lustmealways said:

I'm trying not to get too involved with this drama because I know that I could go on forever posting about it and cracking wise, and that's just a waste of time, so let me keep my thoughts brief...

For quite a while I've been thinking "this guy is a massive goofball" about our friend Casey. Usually that goofballness involves him acting like he has insider info so that he can promote his YouTube channel, which really is a goofball thing to do. Anyway, my point is that everytime I start to think "he's not so bad, I should stop making fun of this goofball" he pulls some shit like this and it's... woah. I mean it doesn't really matter since it's just dumb forum drama, but the two he banned are very nice and very informative people who have contributed a great deal to the atmosphere of this place.

The fact is that Casey made a goofball move, him and his award winning cousin, and instead of just laughing it off like the rest of us wanted to do, he doubled down and abused his power to ban two people who were just saying the correct things in the first place. That's a baby move, to be honest. What was so hard about admitting he was wrong and just having a good old laugh, I'll never understand it. The thread would've been buried by now and no one would've even remembered it, yet here we are.

Absolutely gutted.

This. It was a non-issue. Casey was rightfully upset (if a little quick to judgement) that the SOTT remaster might be not up to par - understandly so, if it comes out and it's as horrid as he described we all will be. But in light of being proven wrong his next actions towards Number 23 (and whoever else?) were harsh and unfair.

ThirdStrike said:

I think, with all due respect of course, that we should use this thread to outwardly make our complaints known about the perceived misuse of power by (now) CaseyRain in banning another fellow org member for nothing more then pointing out something wrong in what he posted. I, like many others, think it's wrong, and should be rectified immediately. I also believe there needs to be a PUNITIVE response to Militant...err...CaseyRain for abusing that power the way he did. I'm hoping others will post herein about it and not just use the private, org.notes feature to do so. Thanks.

A growing tendency of mods to ban or apply other punishments is obvious here. If we posted some of the things that mods get away with, we'd not be tolerated. But if we comment on those issues, even gently, we're treated like children and given no-notice timeouts. Not even the courtesy of an org note that would be noticed immediately.

No representative of this site should be able to use the site to promote their personal business in any thread; put that in a separate forum and let people go hunting.

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Kares has been banned? This is really f**ked up.

lustmealways said:

I'm trying not to get too involved with this drama because I know that I could go on forever posting about it and cracking wise, and that's just a waste of time, so let me keep my thoughts brief...

For quite a while I've been thinking "this guy is a massive goofball" about our friend Casey. Usually that goofballness involves him acting like he has insider info so that he can promote his YouTube channel, which really is a goofball thing to do. Anyway, my point is that everytime I start to think "he's not so bad, I should stop making fun of this goofball" he pulls some shit like this and it's... woah. I mean it doesn't really matter since it's just dumb forum drama, but the two he banned are very nice and very informative people who have contributed a great deal to the atmosphere of this place.

The fact is that Casey made a goofball move, him and his award winning cousin, and instead of just laughing it off like the rest of us wanted to do, he doubled down and abused his power to ban two people who were just saying the correct things in the first place. That's a baby move, to be honest. What was so hard about admitting he was wrong and just having a good old laugh, I'll never understand it. The thread would've been buried by now and no one would've even remembered it, yet here we are.

Absolutely gutted.

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This. I've contacted Ben about this. He really needs to do something about it.

...and now there's a lenghty, dictator type response by him in the SOTT SDE thread. Of course, no apologies. Basically an exhibition of perceived power through his keyboard fingers. I responded of course. Probably get banned. Such is life...

[Edited 9/14/20 10:08am]

As an outsider looking in;

all it needed was an apology for making a genuine mistake and we'd all move on.

Not sure why it would be that hard?

That's what a mature person would do.

Hopefully Casey can do what Militant couldn't and just say, 'sorry, I was wrong'.

Btw, luv4u deleted my message in main thread and — after — he removed the entire thread.

themanfromneptune said:

Btw, luv4u deleted my message in main thread and — after — he removed the entire thread.

If you're talking about the SOTT SDE thread, it's probably being moderated and will be back soon. It got somewhat derailed by Casey's message.

One of the worst things happening in recent years at the org, is that this Casey guy became moderator. The things mentioned in this thread are good illustration. An ego trip if there ever was one.

(BTW if this message gets deleted, or I am banned, no probs; but the problem remains for the org).

[Edited 9/14/20 12:51pm]

TheEnglishGent said:

themanfromneptune said:

Btw, luv4u deleted my message in main thread and — after — he removed the entire thread.

If you're talking about the SOTT SDE thread, it's probably being moderated and will be back soon. It got somewhat derailed by Casey's message.

Yes

cateto said:

One of the worst things happening in recent years at the org, is that this Casey guy became moderator. The things mentioned in this thread are good illustration. An ego trip if there ever was one.

(BTW if this message gets deleted, or I am banned, no probs; but the problem remains for the org).

[Edited 9/14/20 12:51pm]

Egotistical, power tripping, banning people who challenge, censorship...sounds a lot like a moderator over at another "secret" forum

A lot of people need to be unbanned, numerous in P&R.

TheEnglishGent said:

themanfromneptune said:

Btw, luv4u deleted my message in main thread and — after — he removed the entire thread.

If you're talking about the SOTT SDE thread, it's probably being moderated and will be back soon. It got somewhat derailed by Casey's message.

Is this the message? And WOW Ben is letting him get away with it? Maybe we should all protest, til Ben takes it seriously.

PennyPurple said:

TheEnglishGent said:

If you're talking about the SOTT SDE thread, it's probably being moderated and will be back soon. It got somewhat derailed by Casey's message.

Is this the message? And WOW Ben is letting him get away with it? Maybe we should all protest, til Ben takes it seriously.

That is the message, Luv4u said the thread was taken down for Ben to review.

PennyPurple said:

TheEnglishGent said:

If you're talking about the SOTT SDE thread, it's probably being moderated and will be back soon. It got somewhat derailed by Casey's message.

Is this the message? And WOW Ben is letting him get away with it? Maybe we should all protest, til Ben takes it seriously.

Hmmm... what happens when a moderator abuses his position and punishes anoher orger who does not agree with him/her?

Happens all the time in P&R

DiminutiveRocker said:

PennyPurple said:

Is this the message? And WOW Ben is letting him get away with it? Maybe we should all protest, til Ben takes it seriously.

Hmmm... what happens when a moderator abuses his position and punishes anoher orger who does not agree with him/her?

yeah come on Ben.. this has gone too far now..

I know you're busy these days but something has to be done

TheEnglishGent said:

PennyPurple said:

Is this the message? And WOW Ben is letting him get away with it? Maybe we should all protest, til Ben takes it seriously.

That is the message, Luv4u said the thread was taken down for Ben to review.

So basically, 2 posters corrected what he said, with their opinions and said mod then decided to ban them? It was a discussion about SOTT and everyone has their own opinion, this said mod decided to join the discussion and didn't like what he heard?? That's abuse of power....which happens here all the time.

And the message that he posted, that this isn't a paid job...OK...we hear that from them all the time. Let someone else be a mod then. That is always their excuse.

Out with the old, in with the new.

Way too many long time posters are being perma-banned for no reason what so ever. Ben needs to start looking into these matters. P&R has been totally destroyed by posters being perma-banned, for nothing but THEIR OPINON.

[Edited 9/14/20 16:47pm]

PennyPurple said:

So basically, 2 posters corrected what he said, with their opinions and said mod then decided to ban them? It was a discussion about SOTT and everyone has their own opinion, this said mod decided to join the discussion and didn't like what he heard?? That's abuse of power....which happens here all the time.

And the message that he posted, that this isn't a paid job...OK...we hear that from them all the time. Let someone else be a mod then. That is always their excuse.

Out with the old, in with the new.

Way too many long time posters are being perma-banned for no reason what so ever. Ben needs to start looking into these matters. P&R has been totally destroyed by posters being perma-banned, for nothing but THEIR OPINION.

Agreed