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Thread started 03/04/10 8:57pm

murph

Where Do Sane, Level-Headed Prince Heads Go To Now?

Maybe it's time for a new Prince site to start up....

On one side you have the heads who can't admit when a song like "Purple & Gold" is truly horrific trash....

And on the other you have "fans" negatively obsessing over every move the man makes as if he fucked their mother or something...

I remember making a post about how this place was becoming a FAMMY vs. Bitching civil war with no room for the moderate Prince fans to just come and chill and talk/debate about the music instead of going back and forth about baby videos and such....

Well, the Org has finally gone to hell at this point...

Fortunately, the friendships I have made here keeps me coming back...And that's a beautiful thing...

But as is....It's scarier than a motherfucker here....
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Reply #1 posted 03/04/10 8:58pm

xlr8r

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Im thinking its time for me to finally quit.
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Reply #2 posted 03/04/10 9:34pm

RipTheJacker

maybe you can start your own blog and make it private. only certain people you invite can post on there.just a suggestion. at any rate, good luck.
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Reply #3 posted 03/04/10 9:38pm

bellanoche

murph said:

Maybe it's time for a new Prince site to start up....

On one side you have the heads who can't admit when a song like "Purple & Gold" is truly horrific trash....

And on the other you have "fans" negatively obsessing over every move the man makes as if he fucked their mother or something...

I remember making a post about how this place was becoming a FAMMY vs. Bitching civil war with no room for the moderate Prince fans to just come and chill and talk/debate about the music instead of going back and forth about baby videos and such....

Well, the Org has finally gone to hell at this point...

Fortunately, the friendships I have made here keeps me coming back...And that's a beautiful thing...

But as is....It's scarier than a motherfucker here....


I could not agree with you more. For a long time, I didn't even come to the PM&M forum. I consider myself to be in that moderate category that you described, and it just seems like there is no middle ground here. The negativity is suffocating. I tend to lurk now more than anything just to keep up with news. Otherwise, I feel drained whenever I make the mistake of posting because I spend the next few posts defending my right to make a "sane, level-handed" post that doesn't draw a line in the sand then throw fire at anyone on the other side of it. sad
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Reply #4 posted 03/04/10 9:44pm

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No new site. If anything, Prince needs to offer the faithful a place of unlimiting positivity where any negative thought is scrubbed and eliminated so that nothing but blind positivity can reign.

Fams have to ask, why did Prince force all of you to come to this ultra negative place where you have to be hurt by other people's refusal to kiss Prince's gluttius maximus. He can so EASILY as has been proven in the past with NPGMC, provide a forum where all your hearts desires can be fulfilled. Unlimitted ass kissing. I love doing that too, just not for Prince.....
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #5 posted 03/04/10 9:46pm

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I realize I'm speaking, so far, to moderates. My post is not directed at you.

*waiting for the faithful*.....
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #6 posted 03/04/10 9:52pm

poetcorner61

murph said:

Maybe it's time for a new Prince site to start up....

On one side you have the heads who can't admit when a song like "Purple & Gold" is truly horrific trash....

And on the other you have "fans" negatively obsessing over every move the man makes as if he fucked their mother or something...

I remember making a post about how this place was becoming a FAMMY vs. Bitching civil war with no room for the moderate Prince fans to just come and chill and talk/debate about the music instead of going back and forth about baby videos and such....

Well, the Org has finally gone to hell at this point...

Fortunately, the friendships I have made here keeps me coming back...And that's a beautiful thing...

But as is....It's scarier than a motherfucker here....


Well, Murph, there is still hope for level-headed fans on this site! I was a long time Prince fan who stopped listening to Prince music 15 years ago--not because I was disenchanted with the music or even knew anything about his fight with Warner Bros! I left because of life experiences and I recently came back because of life experiences and I started listening to the music again! I find it fresh and uplifting...the old more than the new--but I like some new, too! I have liked P music for some thirty years...and I am just now joining a fan site as of a few months ago! Don't leave--there is hope for level-headed fans who love his music but can still be constructively critical about the music! Hang in here--we need you!wink
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Reply #7 posted 03/04/10 9:54pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

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No new site. If anything, Prince needs to offer the faithful a place of unlimiting positivity where any negative thought is scrubbed and eliminated so that nothing but blind positivity can reign.

Fams have to ask, why did Prince force all of you to come to this ultra negative place where you have to be hurt by other people's refusal to kiss Prince's gluttius maximus. He can so EASILY as has been proven in the past with NPGMC, provide a forum where all your hearts desires can be fulfilled. Unlimitted ass kissing. I love doing that too, just not for Prince.....



maybe a new prince site with forums in the future is like the 'purple second coming" for fams?


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Reply #8 posted 03/04/10 9:57pm

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If you just don't think about it too much, everything will be fine.
~ I'D BUY THAT FOR A DOLLAR ~
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Reply #9 posted 03/04/10 10:01pm

murph

RipTheJacker said:

maybe you can start your own blog and make it private. only certain people you invite can post on there.just a suggestion. at any rate, good luck.



The normal Org snark was expected...But really, I'm sincere, here....
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Reply #10 posted 03/04/10 10:07pm

xlr8r

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RipTheJacker said:

maybe you can start your own blog and make it private. only certain people you invite can post on there.just a suggestion. at any rate, good luck.



we tried that before..remember?
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Reply #11 posted 03/04/10 10:07pm

citrus

there is room for moderate fans.

no one can stop you posting unless you break the rules.

peace
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Reply #12 posted 03/04/10 10:11pm

poetcorner61

murph said:

RipTheJacker said:

maybe you can start your own blog and make it private. only certain people you invite can post on there.just a suggestion. at any rate, good luck.



The normal Org snark was expected...But really, I'm sincere, here....


Really, Murph, although I am relatively new here, I have read your posts, and I really hope you don't leave the org! You are needed. For instance, to throw your opinion on ONA Live from Copenhagen, which I am listening to for the first time and I love it. The only thing I can see and criticize is that is religious references after this time became more exclusive and less inclusive as in the past...he invited the audience in more than in more current venues. It would be a lesson that if you want to pass a message on--that you be more inclusive with that message than exclusive--that is the major problem I see. Just speaking as someone coming back to the scene... wink
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Reply #13 posted 03/04/10 10:14pm

RipTheJacker

murph said:

RipTheJacker said:

maybe you can start your own blog and make it private. only certain people you invite can post on there.just a suggestion. at any rate, good luck.



The normal Org snark was expected...But really, I'm sincere, here....


oh, i wasn't being snarky with you,murph. if my post came off that way, i'm sorry.that wasn't the intent. hug wether you chose to stay or leave can't say i blame you.
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Reply #14 posted 03/04/10 10:14pm

YouOughtaUnder
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xlr8r said:

Im thinking its time for me to finally quit.

Blasphemy exclaim
eek
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Reply #15 posted 03/04/10 10:17pm

poetcorner61

YouOughtaUnderstand said:

xlr8r said:

Im thinking its time for me to finally quit.

Blasphemy exclaim
eek


lol
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Reply #16 posted 03/04/10 10:23pm

xlr8r

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what the devil?...
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Reply #17 posted 03/04/10 11:15pm

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I can dig it. That's the reason I don't post very often these days, I usually just catch up on any new info and then bug out. But, I do pay attention in hopes that sanity will prevail... I'll be ready to actively participate more when that time comes.
Don't go too far, we need all the level-headed, rational people we can get.
Don't hate your neighbors. Hate the media that tells you to hate your neighbors.
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Reply #18 posted 03/04/10 11:36pm

poetcorner61

djThunderfunk said:

I can dig it. That's the reason I don't post very often these days, I usually just catch up on any new info and then bug out. But, I do pay attention in hopes that sanity will prevail... I'll be ready to actively participate more when that time comes.
Don't go too far, we need all the level-headed, rational people we can get.

yeahthat
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Reply #19 posted 03/05/10 2:05am

cella123456

it takes all kinds of people to make a world,,,after all the cat fighting is over,,,logic and love will prevail,,,,just wait it out,,, it works out in the end,,,usually always does,,,,never seen it to fail yet.
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Reply #20 posted 03/05/10 2:12am

thedance

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xlr8r said:

Im thinking its time for me to finally quit.

Why do you wanna quit?

the 2 songs are awfull alright, but Lotus/ Mpls wasn't that bad was it...?
Prince 4Ever. heart
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Reply #21 posted 03/05/10 2:54am

LadyInWhite

This thread raises a good Q:

Many of us who don't want to marry Prince or think they know him as a person but who greatly appreciate his music (current as well as older) don't post much because it's not worth the hassle. I tell you, lots of infrequent posters are level-headed sensible people who are frustrated by some of the "debate" here and only come back for news
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Reply #22 posted 03/05/10 3:03am

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How about dissolution of the labeling of orgers in relation to expressed ideas?. He's been around so long that i'm not sure you can have a prince site without the same turf battles erupting, first of all we need to do an objective and non insulting job of identifying all the groups, how they contribute positively and how some of their negative traits affect us all. starting a new group (Moderate Prince Fans) will only invite more groups, and attacks. I could easily counter Moderate Prince fans with Radical Take no Prisoner Prince P-funk Fams to oppose everything you say lol. At some level we are all here because we support the dude but i understand when i come here which threads were authored by Fams, Disgruntled Fams, Old School Raunchy Fans, New School Fams, Prince should stick to funk pro black fans, Prince hould rock out guitar Geeks, Fans who are underground Rick James apoligist trolling the org to redeem their real hero, Wendy and Lisa trolls, I want Prince to be Gay fans, Groupie/ Every picture of Prince arouses me chick, Fantasy Business Manager Fan (to which i am a member) who diss his every move as stupid, Anti Religion Fan who use Prince's JW association to rant about their own beliefs as if Prince picking a faith is somehow a cultural game changer, Pro Religion Fan who use Prince's choices to confirm their own, Old Fuddy Duddy Fan ( to which i am a proud member) who oppose Old Raunchy Fan to make themselves feel they have more maturity and class, Pure Minneapolis Sound Fan- anything post 83'is crap 1999 is the only masterpiece, Soul Train Fan-mostly african american older who remembered Prince with the Afro and Resent him for dissing Tom Joyner, The Prince can do a great album tommorow group-small, and delusional lol, The Bootleg Nerds, The social media geeks who consider prince's stance against youtube a personal insult, The Fantasy crew who author hypothetical collabs, setlist, covers, super bands to sooth themselves of the reality he's never really been good at playing nice with others, The Take it or leave its- those fans who draw the line and go off on anybody here complaining and longing for the past. The Prince has lost all ability to make anything listenable Fan- No longer hurt, just angry-they dont use a lot of words ever notice that? lol, The Repressed agressive Tall Guy Fan who looks for any opportunity to minimize Prince as a sex symbol (by making short jokes on the Groupie/Aroused Chick threads) because it sucks admitting he's a fan, The 6 Degrees of MJ fan (closeted MJ fan here to recruit lol) who repeatedly starts MJ threads in the wrong forum, The Hip Replacement Crew, The LotusFlowr3 77 Gang-they got hosed for 77 bones and they'll never let us forget it, geeesh... I can go on all day lol, why cant we all just get along? sad
Why cant we just eradicate the above mentioned groups and agree we all support the brotha and there's no reason for any of us to be disrespectful of one another
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Reply #23 posted 03/05/10 4:39am

Vendetta1

They go here, Murph. Most of the time, if it's a topic I really want to discuss, I just jump over posts that are extreme on either side.

Just continue to start threads like your last one. If either side takes it off-course, report them or ignore them.
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Reply #24 posted 03/05/10 4:44am

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dreamshaman32 said:

How about dissolution of the labeling of orgers in relation to expressed ideas?. He's been around so long that i'm not sure you can have a prince site without the same turf battles erupting, first of all we need to do an objective and non insulting job of identifying all the groups, how they contribute positively and how some of their negative traits affect us all. starting a new group (Moderate Prince Fans) will only invite more groups, and attacks. I could easily counter Moderate Prince fans with Radical Take no Prisoner Prince P-funk Fams to oppose everything you say lol. At some level we are all here because we support the dude but i understand when i come here which threads were authored by Fams, Disgruntled Fams, Old School Raunchy Fans, New School Fams, Prince should stick to funk pro black fans, Prince hould rock out guitar Geeks, Fans who are underground Rick James apoligist trolling the org to redeem their real hero, Wendy and Lisa trolls, I want Prince to be Gay fans, Groupie/ Every picture of Prince arouses me chick, Fantasy Business Manager Fan (to which i am a member) who diss his every move as stupid, Anti Religion Fan who use Prince's JW association to rant about their own beliefs as if Prince picking a faith is somehow a cultural game changer, Pro Religion Fan who use Prince's choices to confirm their own, Old Fuddy Duddy Fan ( to which i am a proud member) who oppose Old Raunchy Fan to make themselves feel they have more maturity and class, Pure Minneapolis Sound Fan- anything post 83'is crap 1999 is the only masterpiece, Soul Train Fan-mostly african american older who remembered Prince with the Afro and Resent him for dissing Tom Joyner, The Prince can do a great album tommorow group-small, and delusional lol, The Bootleg Nerds, The social media geeks who consider prince's stance against youtube a personal insult, The Fantasy crew who author hypothetical collabs, setlist, covers, super bands to sooth themselves of the reality he's never really been good at playing nice with others, The Take it or leave its- those fans who draw the line and go off on anybody here complaining and longing for the past. The Prince has lost all ability to make anything listenable Fan- No longer hurt, just angry-they dont use a lot of words ever notice that? lol, The Repressed agressive Tall Guy Fan who looks for any opportunity to minimize Prince as a sex symbol (by making short jokes on the Groupie/Aroused Chick threads) because it sucks admitting he's a fan, The 6 Degrees of MJ fan (closeted MJ fan here to recruit lol) who repeatedly starts MJ threads in the wrong forum, The Hip Replacement Crew, The LotusFlowr3 77 Gang-they got hosed for 77 bones and they'll never let us forget it, geeesh... I can go on all day lol, why cant we all just get along? sad
Why cant we just eradicate the above mentioned groups and agree we all support the brotha and there's no reason for any of us to be disrespectful of one another
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Ha this is brillant and so damn true.
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Reply #25 posted 03/05/10 5:25am

LondonStyle

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citrus said:

there is room for moderate fans.

no one can stop you posting unless you break the rules.

peace


The rules are made up anyway ... no one really cares what's on this site, and the site becomes active when new music or a concert or magazine review is posted apart from that ... what said on here is just hot air....the only thing that really counts is Prince music which you can't even get on this site ..

lol
Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
James Brown & Michael Jackson RIP, your music still lives with us!
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Reply #26 posted 03/05/10 5:42am

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HobbesLeCute said:

If you just don't think about it too much, everything will be fine.

yeahthat
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #27 posted 03/05/10 5:54am

andrewm7

djThunderfunk said:

I can dig it. That's the reason I don't post very often these days, I usually just catch up on any new info and then bug out. But, I do pay attention in hopes that sanity will prevail... I'll be ready to actively participate more when that time comes.
Don't go too far, we need all the level-headed, rational people we can get.

AMEN
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Reply #28 posted 03/05/10 6:07am

theRight1

dreamshaman32 said:

How about dissolution of the labeling of orgers in relation to expressed ideas?. He's been around so long that i'm not sure you can have a prince site without the same turf battles erupting, first of all we need to do an objective and non insulting job of identifying all the groups, how they contribute positively and how some of their negative traits affect us all. starting a new group (Moderate Prince Fans) will only invite more groups, and attacks. I could easily counter Moderate Prince fans with Radical Take no Prisoner Prince P-funk Fams to oppose everything you say lol. At some level we are all here because we support the dude but i understand when i come here which threads were authored by Fams, Disgruntled Fams, Old School Raunchy Fans, New School Fams, Prince should stick to funk pro black fans, Prince hould rock out guitar Geeks, Fans who are underground Rick James apoligist trolling the org to redeem their real hero, Wendy and Lisa trolls, I want Prince to be Gay fans, Groupie/ Every picture of Prince arouses me chick, Fantasy Business Manager Fan (to which i am a member) who diss his every move as stupid, Anti Religion Fan who use Prince's JW association to rant about their own beliefs as if Prince picking a faith is somehow a cultural game changer, Pro Religion Fan who use Prince's choices to confirm their own, Old Fuddy Duddy Fan ( to which i am a proud member) who oppose Old Raunchy Fan to make themselves feel they have more maturity and class, Pure Minneapolis Sound Fan- anything post 83'is crap 1999 is the only masterpiece, Soul Train Fan-mostly african american older who remembered Prince with the Afro and Resent him for dissing Tom Joyner, The Prince can do a great album tommorow group-small, and delusional lol, The Bootleg Nerds, The social media geeks who consider prince's stance against youtube a personal insult, The Fantasy crew who author hypothetical collabs, setlist, covers, super bands to sooth themselves of the reality he's never really been good at playing nice with others, The Take it or leave its- those fans who draw the line and go off on anybody here complaining and longing for the past. The Prince has lost all ability to make anything listenable Fan- No longer hurt, just angry-they dont use a lot of words ever notice that? lol, The Repressed agressive Tall Guy Fan who looks for any opportunity to minimize Prince as a sex symbol (by making short jokes on the Groupie/Aroused Chick threads) because it sucks admitting he's a fan, The 6 Degrees of MJ fan (closeted MJ fan here to recruit lol) who repeatedly starts MJ threads in the wrong forum, The Hip Replacement Crew, The LotusFlowr3 77 Gang-they got hosed for 77 bones and they'll never let us forget it, geeesh... I can go on all day lol, why cant we all just get along? sad
Why cant we just eradicate the above mentioned groups and agree we all support the brotha and there's no reason for any of us to be disrespectful of one another
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yeahthat The org is like a microcosm of the world we live in. Good job on the grouping. I remember the thread, "I think it's time some of you openly address your Prince obsession" murph started back in November. It was a good thread. My opinion about this site has changed since then. You and a few others have interesting and intelligent opinions but I admit, it's March and I think I've had my fill of opinions from various groups of Prince fans. I'm full and I know when it's time to back away from the table, especially when some members have actually caused theRight1 to use the "F" word. lol I'm in the sexy angel group btw. wink
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Reply #29 posted 03/05/10 6:25am

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murph said:

Maybe it's time for a new Prince site to start up....

On one side you have the heads who can't admit when a song like "Purple & Gold" is truly horrific trash....

And on the other you have "fans" negatively obsessing over every move the man makes as if he fucked their mother or something...

I remember making a post about how this place was becoming a FAMMY vs. Bitching civil war with no room for the moderate Prince fans to just come and chill and talk/debate about the music instead of going back and forth about baby videos and such....

Well, the Org has finally gone to hell at this point...

Fortunately, the friendships I have made here keeps me coming back...And that's a beautiful thing...

But as is....It's scarier than a motherfucker here....


You know this already: The Lesson.
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