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Reply #30 posted 01/30/09 1:11am

jimino1

here we go with the Prince.org vs Housequake shit....playing the game just like Prince wants...divide and conquer....

I don't think Prince.org is any safer than HQ....and anyway - what ever happened to not just freedom of choice - but also freedom of speech.... I spent a lot of Time at HQ - but I still came here every now and then...does that make me a 'hater' or an 'outsider'?

settle down people - I think this is gonna be a bumpy ride!!

BTW I don't think Prince would have a leg to stand on if its copyright issues he's 'concerned' about in reference to the banner....in fact I know he hasn't - but he likes to play games - especially when he knows that aaron hasn't got the funds to fight him...and in truth I can't argue with aaron - why fight it? Prince doesn't fight fair...he never has...
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Reply #31 posted 01/30/09 1:17am

Sdldawn

sarkozyiszeman said:

Sdldawn said:

What a great way to say thanks to the fans..


I agree with you. It's pathetic.

Don't you think it's due to the fact HQ mods have givenlittle infos here and there like "expect some video action" or "do not expect the 3 albums to be released on the 31st" + the info about concerts in Florida (Hard Rock Cafe).

Maybe Prince took the piss but still I thought HQ mods were keeping secrets pretty tight.


confused


I think it's insulting to mess with your fans public communities in which they discuss for the most part why they love your music. This is coming from the "slave" which wanted freedom from boundaries.
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Reply #32 posted 01/30/09 1:18am

Teacher

jimino1 said:

here we go with the Prince.org vs Housequake shit....playing the game just like Prince wants...divide and conquer....

I don't think Prince.org is any safer than HQ....and anyway - what ever happened to not just freedom of choice - but also freedom of speech.... I spent a lot of Time at HQ - but I still came here every now and then...does that make me a 'hater' or an 'outsider'?

settle down people - I think this is gonna be a bumpy ride!!

BTW I don't think Prince would have a leg to stand on if its copyright issues he's 'concerned' about in reference to the banner....in fact I know he hasn't - but he likes to play games - especially when he knows that aaron hasn't got the funds to fight him...and in truth I can't argue with aaron - why fight it? Prince doesn't fight fair...he never has...


Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin
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Reply #33 posted 01/30/09 1:19am

love2thenines2
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Prince has just changed his PLans : 4 this year we will GET the Black Album/CB/and the 2007 fight between Fan club Sites & Prince's staff in ONE MIX!!

neutral
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Reply #34 posted 01/30/09 1:23am

EmancipationLo
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Teacher said:

jimino1 said:

here we go with the Prince.org vs Housequake shit....playing the game just like Prince wants...divide and conquer....

I don't think Prince.org is any safer than HQ....and anyway - what ever happened to not just freedom of choice - but also freedom of speech.... I spent a lot of Time at HQ - but I still came here every now and then...does that make me a 'hater' or an 'outsider'?

settle down people - I think this is gonna be a bumpy ride!!

BTW I don't think Prince would have a leg to stand on if its copyright issues he's 'concerned' about in reference to the banner....in fact I know he hasn't - but he likes to play games - especially when he knows that aaron hasn't got the funds to fight him...and in truth I can't argue with aaron - why fight it? Prince doesn't fight fair...he never has...


Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin


What I don't get is this: Prince 'requested' to remove the banner (most likely via a C&D letter, I would guess), and it is removed. But why does that mean that it is necessary to close the website???

(Just speculation anyway...)
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Reply #35 posted 01/30/09 1:23am

Sdldawn

Meanwhile, Trent Rez treats his fans like they are royalty.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:26am]
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Reply #36 posted 01/30/09 1:24am

Teacher

EmancipationLover said:

Teacher said:



Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin


What I don't get is this: Prince 'requested' to remove the banner (most likely via a C&D letter, I would guess), and it is removed. But why does that mean that it is necessary to close the website???

(Just speculation anyway...)


Well, if you shit in somebody's face over and over again they're gonna get more than pissed off eventually. I believe Prince was ok with leaving HQ alone, but that the fanmade Lotusflower banner was the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a funny "coincidence" that this happens on the day before most people believe his own site will open, but it's still stupid on Aaron's part.
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Reply #37 posted 01/30/09 1:26am

EmancipationLo
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love2thenines2003 said:

Prince has just changed his PLans : 4 this year we will GET the Black Album/CB/and the 2007 fight between Fan club Sites & Prince's staff in ONE MIX!!

neutral


"MPLSound" will be renamed to "Londell sound" and will be a 60 min. long one-track album with spoken C&D letters over an electrofunk beat - featuring a guest appearance by Carmen Electra (who announces her conversion to the JW belief) at the end. biggrin
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Reply #38 posted 01/30/09 1:27am

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Sdldawn said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



I agree with you. It's pathetic.

Don't you think it's due to the fact HQ mods have givenlittle infos here and there like "expect some video action" or "do not expect the 3 albums to be released on the 31st" + the info about concerts in Florida (Hard Rock Cafe).

Maybe Prince took the piss but still I thought HQ mods were keeping secrets pretty tight.


confused


I think it's insulting to mess with your fans public communities in which they discuss for the most part why they love your music. This is coming from the "slave" which wanted freedom from boundaries.


We're talking about someone who is selfcentered, eccentric and selfobsessed.
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Reply #39 posted 01/30/09 1:28am

EmancipationLo
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sarkozyiszeman said:

Sdldawn said:



I think it's insulting to mess with your fans public communities in which they discuss for the most part why they love your music. This is coming from the "slave" which wanted freedom from boundaries.


We're talking about someone who is selfcentered, eccentric and selfobsessed.


So what news is next - that the Pope is Catholic? biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 01/30/09 1:29am

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Teacher said:

EmancipationLover said:



What I don't get is this: Prince 'requested' to remove the banner (most likely via a C&D letter, I would guess), and it is removed. But why does that mean that it is necessary to close the website???

(Just speculation anyway...)


Well, if you shit in somebody's face over and over again they're gonna get more than pissed off eventually. I believe Prince was ok with leaving HQ alone, but that the fanmade Lotusflower banner was the straw that broke the camel's back. It's a funny "coincidence" that this happens on the day before most people believe his own site will open, but it's still stupid on Aaron's part.

How fucked up that in your analogy, Prince is the one getting his face shit in over and over again. I read it the other way around at first.
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Reply #41 posted 01/30/09 1:29am

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Everyone just slow down....don't freakout

Let's see what the next 48 hours brings.....

(I've been getting my Yoga on lately, it does wonders for the nerves and episodes like this) lol
[Edited 1/30/09 1:37am]
Why You Jive Turkey You....
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Reply #42 posted 01/30/09 1:30am

Sdldawn

shit baffles me..



someone rick roll his ass
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Reply #43 posted 01/30/09 1:30am

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Sdldawn said:

Meanwhile, Trent Rez treats his fans like they are royalty.


Trent Reznor loves his fans touched
Thanks for the vidoes trent biggrin
Love Life,
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And Only Do Drugs You Need
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Reply #44 posted 01/30/09 1:31am

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EmancipationLover said:

sarkozyiszeman said:



We're talking about someone who is selfcentered, eccentric and selfobsessed.


So what news is next - that the Pope is Catholic? biggrin


wink

This was no news but just a reminder.
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Reply #45 posted 01/30/09 1:32am

Gav

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Damn, there's more conspiracy theories here than ever !

Firstly, the simple reason that nothing's been said is that as many of you know, I look after the Prince liaison and legal statements for Housequake and I've been snowed under with my day job - in fact I only found out HQ was closed by email from one of the other mods this morning.

As some have noticed, relations with official sources have been very good of late, however mostly because we've been "playing the game" and trying our best to not offend P. An example of this is how we've had a header that doesn't even mention Prince's name nor shows his photo.

A couple of weeks ago, one member put together some excellent lotusflower "inspired" banners that used a symbol that looked a bit like Prince's but with a flower modification. As they didn't infringe copyright, we took the decision to put these live, along with the official banners we were supplied directly by P.

Roughly 24 hours later, we got a very blunt email saying "this must be removed" from one of his team. We tried to discuss this explaining that it's very difficult to have a fan website that doesn't have a picture of Prince or even show his symbol, however P was adamant that we don't "imply official status".

As someone else noticed on this thread, this was quite frankly the straw that broke the camels back and Aaron came to the belief that this really isn't a fun thing to do any more. Please remember that this is just a hobby for Aaron. It costs him money to run (we can't take donations any more as it changes our legal status and this was used by Prince's legal representation to claim we were a commercial organisation - nice huh ?) and take up a great deal of his time. Would you spend time and money on something you didn't enjoy ?

Is HQ over ? I personally don't know but I've spent a great deal of time playing "united nations" to repair relationships between Prince and all the PFU members (I brokered the "ceasefire" between the PFU and Prince) so I'm not about to give up yet.

It Ain't Over !

ps - thanks for the notes of support for HQ. This isn't about Prince.org vs Housequake, this is purely about fans rights to support an artist in a reasonable manner.
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Reply #46 posted 01/30/09 1:32am

Sdldawn

mplsmike said:

Sdldawn said:

Meanwhile, Trent Rez treats his fans like they are royalty.


Trent Reznor loves his fans touched
Thanks for the vidoes trent biggrin


No kidding

Free album.
Remix the albums and keep/share the damn files
free videos
albums available to purchase as soon as their ready - no bullshit
forum
fan pictures
chat
Video
official site where live shows are announced

should I keep going..


this goes hand in hand with that "business" ethics thing we were all discussing earlier.. ya know, the thing Prince lacks.

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[Edited 1/30/09 1:35am]
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Reply #47 posted 01/30/09 1:33am

Gav

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Teacher said:

jimino1 said:

here we go with the Prince.org vs Housequake shit....playing the game just like Prince wants...divide and conquer....

I don't think Prince.org is any safer than HQ....and anyway - what ever happened to not just freedom of choice - but also freedom of speech.... I spent a lot of Time at HQ - but I still came here every now and then...does that make me a 'hater' or an 'outsider'?

settle down people - I think this is gonna be a bumpy ride!!

BTW I don't think Prince would have a leg to stand on if its copyright issues he's 'concerned' about in reference to the banner....in fact I know he hasn't - but he likes to play games - especially when he knows that aaron hasn't got the funds to fight him...and in truth I can't argue with aaron - why fight it? Prince doesn't fight fair...he never has...



Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin


Actually Prince was more pissed off about the recent Photoshop thread on here than he was about the banner.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:34am]
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Reply #48 posted 01/30/09 1:34am

wildgoldenhone
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What?
The banners were made by a fan and not official?
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Reply #49 posted 01/30/09 1:34am

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What happened will come out eventually. Personally... I shed no tears... but I know a lot of people luved that place for some reason or another. For them, some sort of explanation ahould be shared.

Gav made a post while I was posting..... so ignore me.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:37am]
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Reply #50 posted 01/30/09 1:34am

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Gav said:

Damn, there's more conspiracy theories here than ever !

Firstly, the simple reason that nothing's been said is that as many of you know, I look after the Prince liaison and legal statements for Housequake and I've been snowed under with my day job - in fact I only found out HQ was closed by email from one of the other mods this morning.

As some have noticed, relations with official sources have been very good of late, however mostly because we've been "playing the game" and trying our best to not offend P. An example of this is how we've had a header that doesn't even mention Prince's name nor shows his photo.

A couple of weeks ago, one member put together some excellent lotusflower "inspired" banners that used a symbol that looked a bit like Prince's but with a flower modification. As they didn't infringe copyright, we took the decision to put these live, along with the official banners we were supplied directly by P.

Roughly 24 hours later, we got a very blunt email saying "this must be removed" from one of his team. We tried to discuss this explaining that it's very difficult to have a fan website that doesn't have a picture of Prince or even show his symbol, however P was adamant that we don't "imply official status".

As someone else noticed on this thread, this was quite frankly the straw that broke the camels back and Aaron came to the belief that this really isn't a fun thing to do any more. Please remember that this is just a hobby for Aaron. It costs him money to run (we can't take donations any more as it changes our legal status and this was used by Prince's legal representation to claim we were a commercial organisation - nice huh ?) and take up a great deal of his time. Would you spend time and money on something you didn't enjoy ?

Is HQ over ? I personally don't know but I've spent a great deal of time playing "united nations" to repair relationships between Prince and all the PFU members (I brokered the "ceasefire" between the PFU and Prince) so I'm not about to give up yet.

It Ain't Over !

ps - thanks for the notes of support for HQ. This isn't about Prince.org vs Housequake, this is purely about fans rights to support an artist in a reasonable manner.


Thank you
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Reply #51 posted 01/30/09 1:35am

wildgoldenhone
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Gav said:

Teacher said:




Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin


Actually Prince was more pissed off about the recent Photoshop thread on here than he was about the banner.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:34am]

He was?

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Reply #52 posted 01/30/09 1:36am

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Sdldawn said:

No kidding

Free album.
Remix the albums and keep/share the damn files
free videos
albums available to purchase as soon as their ready - no bullshit
forum
fan pictures
official site where live shows are announced?

should I keep going..


the Multi tracks nod biggrin
Love Life,
Love God,
And Only Do Drugs You Need
smoker

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Reply #53 posted 01/30/09 1:37am

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Teacher said:

Meanwhile, Org people - remember that the vast majority of HQ members have been berating the Org and its members for years and now the tables may be turned... hmmm


Any rivalry between the two sites is only fuelled by childish nonsense like that post. If it exists, it's certainly not by "the vast majority", and isn't exclusive to Housequake.
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Reply #54 posted 01/30/09 1:38am

Teacher

Gav said:

Teacher said:




Why do so few people want to own up to the fact that Aaron breached the copyright in aa MAJOR way by putting up all those videos and allowing discussions and (covert) solicitation of bootlegs??? It's true ostrich behaviour - the Org corrected its wrongs but HQ kept doing shit like the banners. Time to take your medicine, it's that simple.
Divide and conquer? The Org is solide. biggrin


Actually Prince was more pissed off about the recent Photoshop thread on here than he was about the banner.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:34am]


I can imagine - it's bullshit to do that too, I wouldn't participate in that ever. I think photoshopping on the whole is lame and boring, and doing Prince stuff is even worse. I think Prince and I are mostly upset about the same pic, with the little girl. That was horrible, truly appalling. I can't believe anybody finds that funny and ok, and it sucks ass that it was allowed to stay up.
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Reply #55 posted 01/30/09 1:39am

Teacher

thebumpsquad said:

Teacher said:

Meanwhile, Org people - remember that the vast majority of HQ members have been berating the Org and its members for years and now the tables may be turned... hmmm


Any rivalry between the two sites is only fuelled by childish nonsense like that post. If it exists, it's certainly not by "the vast majority", and isn't exclusive to Housequake.


Of course nod
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Reply #56 posted 01/30/09 1:39am

Sdldawn




sue me
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Reply #57 posted 01/30/09 1:40am

EmancipationLo
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Gav said:

Damn, there's more conspiracy theories here than ever !

Firstly, the simple reason that nothing's been said is that as many of you know, I look after the Prince liaison and legal statements for Housequake and I've been snowed under with my day job - in fact I only found out HQ was closed by email from one of the other mods this morning.

As some have noticed, relations with official sources have been very good of late, however mostly because we've been "playing the game" and trying our best to not offend P. An example of this is how we've had a header that doesn't even mention Prince's name nor shows his photo.

A couple of weeks ago, one member put together some excellent lotusflower "inspired" banners that used a symbol that looked a bit like Prince's but with a flower modification. As they didn't infringe copyright, we took the decision to put these live, along with the official banners we were supplied directly by P.

Roughly 24 hours later, we got a very blunt email saying "this must be removed" from one of his team. We tried to discuss this explaining that it's very difficult to have a fan website that doesn't have a picture of Prince or even show his symbol, however P was adamant that we don't "imply official status".

As someone else noticed on this thread, this was quite frankly the straw that broke the camels back and Aaron came to the belief that this really isn't a fun thing to do any more. Please remember that this is just a hobby for Aaron. It costs him money to run (we can't take donations any more as it changes our legal status and this was used by Prince's legal representation to claim we were a commercial organisation - nice huh ?) and take up a great deal of his time. Would you spend time and money on something you didn't enjoy ?

Is HQ over ? I personally don't know but I've spent a great deal of time playing "united nations" to repair relationships between Prince and all the PFU members (I brokered the "ceasefire" between the PFU and Prince) so I'm not about to give up yet.

It Ain't Over !

ps - thanks for the notes of support for HQ. This isn't about Prince.org vs Housequake, this is purely about fans rights to support an artist in a reasonable manner.


Thanks a lot for the clarifying info. It's pretty much what my guess has been - Prince doing his usual thing, and Aaron just saying that that's enough for him. Just to be clear though: Housequake hasn't been shut down due to legal action from the Prince camp, but due to Aaron's free decision that, under the given circumstances, he doesn't enjoy it anymore. Hope that's a correct interpretation...
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Reply #58 posted 01/30/09 1:43am

wildgoldenhone
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Teacher said:

Gav said:



Actually Prince was more pissed off about the recent Photoshop thread on here than he was about the banner.
[Edited 1/30/09 1:34am]


I can imagine - it's bullshit to do that too, I wouldn't participate in that ever. I think photoshopping on the whole is lame and boring, and doing Prince stuff is even worse. I think Prince and I are mostly upset about the same pic, with the little girl. That was horrible, truly appalling. I can't believe anybody finds that funny and ok, and it sucks ass that it was allowed to stay up.

Was that pic that you're talking about on that thread?
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Reply #59 posted 01/30/09 1:44am

Gav

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EmancipationLover said:

Gav said:

Damn, there's more conspiracy theories here than ever !

Firstly, the simple reason that nothing's been said is that as many of you know, I look after the Prince liaison and legal statements for Housequake and I've been snowed under with my day job - in fact I only found out HQ was closed by email from one of the other mods this morning.

As some have noticed, relations with official sources have been very good of late, however mostly because we've been "playing the game" and trying our best to not offend P. An example of this is how we've had a header that doesn't even mention Prince's name nor shows his photo.

A couple of weeks ago, one member put together some excellent lotusflower "inspired" banners that used a symbol that looked a bit like Prince's but with a flower modification. As they didn't infringe copyright, we took the decision to put these live, along with the official banners we were supplied directly by P.

Roughly 24 hours later, we got a very blunt email saying "this must be removed" from one of his team. We tried to discuss this explaining that it's very difficult to have a fan website that doesn't have a picture of Prince or even show his symbol, however P was adamant that we don't "imply official status".

As someone else noticed on this thread, this was quite frankly the straw that broke the camels back and Aaron came to the belief that this really isn't a fun thing to do any more. Please remember that this is just a hobby for Aaron. It costs him money to run (we can't take donations any more as it changes our legal status and this was used by Prince's legal representation to claim we were a commercial organisation - nice huh ?) and take up a great deal of his time. Would you spend time and money on something you didn't enjoy ?

Is HQ over ? I personally don't know but I've spent a great deal of time playing "united nations" to repair relationships between Prince and all the PFU members (I brokered the "ceasefire" between the PFU and Prince) so I'm not about to give up yet.

It Ain't Over !

ps - thanks for the notes of support for HQ. This isn't about Prince.org vs Housequake, this is purely about fans rights to support an artist in a reasonable manner.


Thanks a lot for the clarifying info. It's pretty much what my guess has been - Prince doing his usual thing, and Aaron just saying that that's enough for him. Just to be clear though: Housequake hasn't been shut down due to legal action from the Prince camp, but due to Aaron's free decision that, under the given circumstances, he doesn't enjoy it anymore. Hope that's a correct interpretation...


Spot on.
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