emm said: i dislike the man but like the music. Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? https://www.youtube.com/@PurpleKnightsPodcast | |
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benni said: 4bjb said: imo your statement is indeed the most heartfelt. I will make no further comments on this subject matter. Thank you so very much for it has touched me deeply. I agree 4bjb, dartluv's post is very heartfelt. And dartluv5, I'm sorry that you've lost your online home, but welcome to the org. Hopefully you'll meet some good friends here too. | |
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luv4u said: Anxiety said: There's not enough coffee in the world for me this morning.
yeah and I'm sick with a cold/flu and it's my Bday too today! aww, happy birthday, hope u feel better soon.. also, take a pill & a stiff drink, that will sort it! what a brouhaha eh? & there's me thinking they were everso sensible over at HQ.. obviously not i don't imagine it will be closed 4 long, probably the guy needs some time out. i wish prince could just keep his eye on the prize & stop ooogling at the fansites..shouldn't he be studying his bible, or making love 2 his woman!? u know, i never thought he did look, but now realise he must.. i just wanna say, if u read this prince, i apologise 4 perving in the pic threads | |
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bluefish said: emm said: i dislike the man but like the music. Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? sometimes i think it can be said that art can transcend the person who crafts it. for example, i think woody allen is a miserable human being, but i think he's written and directed some great movies. i think his art is bigger than he is as a person. it's a gift, i guess, to be a channel of creativity like that. | |
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Anxiety said: bluefish said: Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? sometimes i think it can be said that art can transcend the person who crafts it. for example, i think woody allen is a miserable human being, but i think he's written and directed some great movies. i think his art is bigger than he is as a person. it's a gift, i guess, to be a channel of creativity like that. And that is the reason why I will never abandon his work pre-body snatch. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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purplecam said: BigDaddyHQ said: They don't here me though. Any time there is a problem, people need to point the finger and assess fault. On one side you have people who would blame Prince for every thing including the birth of octuplets to a girl with 6 kids already... and you have those who treat Prince as a God who must be cleansed in purified waters and fed sacrificial lambs else we bring forth his wrath. But the truth is always in the middle and is where common sense dwells. Think what you may of HQ.com... but the administration there has always pushed the envelope and were never apologetic about it choosing instead to accept the consequences of their actions because they felt it was better for themselves and the fans who supported them. Prince has always been a controlling bitch... period. The two parties have bumped heads... and this time Aaron said fuck it game over. Last note.... there is a huge difference between fans posting graphics in threads which use in part other images, thereby turning them into new works of art... vs. using 'specific' imagery as a fixed part of a web site. One is fair usage and all Prince really can do is moan if he doesn't like it... the other 'can' cross into misleading representation and/or could come into direct conflict with Prince's similar interest... ie his on website, which apparently was the issue here. Prince.org comes across as more a pure fan site... Housequake.com was about fans... but in its slick presentation always came across as something more 'official'. Prince choose to deal with them like a business whose existence he didn't want compromising his own plans. Using lotusflow3r.com inspired imagery in it's header ran the risk of clouding other Prince fan's... the 80-90% who don't use the fans sites regularly... perception of which site was official. And that... the Prince we know...could not allow. So he tried to control them in what ever legal way he could. Aaron did not have tto shut the site down... he did it likely because he got frustrated and/or to make a statement. You're absolutely right about that BigDaddyHQ. Yup Yup! -you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude! | |
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BigDaddyHQ said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: I talk politics all over the internet but I have a certain affection for the Org's P&R. As long as Ben let's me (Or Prince gets jealous that even with his what 5th or 6th site now, more folks STILL prefer to hang out here and shuts it down too!) I'll keep coming! Ok Everyone has a right to get from this site what they feel it offers them. But once you declare than your not here to talk Prince and basically couldn't care less about what goes on with him... you set yourself up for attack by breaking your own lines with a very antagonistic post and getting into a heated topic....concerning most of all Prince. Was it necessary to jump in if you really have closed your legs to Prince...? I had an ex girlfriend who 'hated' me and wanted nothing to do with me. But for over a year after the break... she seamed to always know what was on my 'myspace' page. didn't make sense if she hated me so much. For one thing, I have never said that I hate Prince. I said...as a fan I'm done getting fucked by him and he's not getting another dime out of my pocket! Was it necessary for me to jump in this discussion and say that? Yes, it was because it felt damn good to say! Since I know him and/or his people spy on this board perhaps one day he'll get the message that he can't just keep fucking over his fans because they will and eventually do get tired of it! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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bluefish said: emm said: i dislike the man but like the music. Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? | |
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Anxiety said: sometimes i think it can be said that art can transcend the person who crafts it. for example, i think woody allen is a miserable human being, but i think he's written and directed some great movies. i think his art is bigger than he is as a person. it's a gift, i guess, to be a channel of creativity like that. I'm the type of guy that if I don't like the person, then I have no interest in his/her art. The only two Leo DiCrappio movies I've seen are both directed by Scorsese; I watched them because they are Scorsese films, but even then I had to force myself to watch. The rest of his (DeCrappio's) films I have avoided because I loathe the prissy dork. I am never going to see "Titanic"--whether it's a great film or not--because Leo is in it. https://www.youtube.com/@PurpleKnightsPodcast | |
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emm said: bluefish said: Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? I'm with you. [Edited 1/30/09 15:44pm] | |
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emm said: bluefish said: Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? I love how they think they are gonna chase my ass away 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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It seems a lot of people are claiming Prince shut down housequake.com. Actually it appears Aaron chose to shut it down.
Maybe he got tired of the "fight" that's all well and good, but let's say it as it really happened. The owner decided to shut the site down, Prince did not. | |
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well well housepuke has spit the dummy outta the pram cause Prince and co told them they didnt like a certain thing, after reading all the posts how people are not going to spend a penny on prince's music - GET A GRIP its a website nothing more nothing less. You dont like prince fine dont buy his music but for gods sake its not the end of the world.
It was all okay when Prince was offering things like tickets to the book launch etc through HQ a site he apparently hates so much. | |
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UniversalSon said: It seems a lot of people are claiming Prince shut down housequake.com. Actually it appears Aaron chose to shut it down.
Maybe he got tired of the "fight" that's all well and good, but let's say it as it really happened. The owner decided to shut the site down, Prince did not. Fair enough. But it stands that Prince created the hostile environment where people feel like they can't even have a site devoted to recognizing his art for fear of financial damages. There would be no issue without Prince's cunty behavior. 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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cream72 said: well well housepuke has spit the dummy outta the pram cause Prince and co told them they didnt like a certain thing, after reading all the posts how people are not going to spend a penny on prince's music - GET A GRIP its a website nothing more nothing less. You dont like prince fine dont buy his music but for gods sake its not the end of the world.
Where has Prince said he hated housequake? He asked them to take down some banners. Big fucking whoop.It was all okay when Prince was offering things like tickets to the book launch etc through HQ a site he apparently hates so much. | |
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emm said: bluefish said: Huh? IMO, an artist's songs are a reflection of who he is as a person. So your statement confuses me. If you dig the songs, how can you *not* dig the person behind them? i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? The music IS the person, though. It is born out of their heart and mind. I guess I just can't see how you can separate the man from his music. I'm not saying you've got to LOVE the artist (or the music) blindly, as Vendetta1 and others have accused me and other P supporters of doing. I'll admit Prince is FAR from being able to "do no wrong." However I feel if the respect isn't there on your part for Prince as a human being, then the best thing to do is cut your losses and move on. The org is a site for Prince fans. If you're no longer a fan, you shouldn't be here. Go create your own "Prince fans from 1976 up to 2009" forum and post there. Don't berate others who continue to love him because you no longer do (I'm speaking more to Supa and his clique here.) To answer your question, No, I do not think you should be here. But as long as you speak constructively and do not promote the "us vs. them" agenda that some do, I've got no beef with you being here. https://www.youtube.com/@PurpleKnightsPodcast | |
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Vendetta1 said: cream72 said: well well housepuke has spit the dummy outta the pram cause Prince and co told them they didnt like a certain thing, after reading all the posts how people are not going to spend a penny on prince's music - GET A GRIP its a website nothing more nothing less. You dont like prince fine dont buy his music but for gods sake its not the end of the world.
Where has Prince said he hated housequake? He asked them to take down some banners. Big fucking whoop.It was all okay when Prince was offering things like tickets to the book launch etc through HQ a site he apparently hates so much. I didnt say he did but some of its members seem to think he had some vendetta against them. | |
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Founder | Sorry for the late reply. I just posted a blog entry about my view of this: http://prince.org/blog/20...ke-closed/ ben -- "the prince.org guy" |
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bluefish said: emm said: i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? The music IS the person, though. It is born out of their heart and mind. I guess I just can't see how you can separate the man from his music. I'm not saying you've got to LOVE the artist (or the music) blindly, as Vendetta1 and others have accused me and other P supporters of doing. I'll admit Prince is FAR from being able to "do no wrong." However I feel if the respect isn't there on your part for Prince as a human being, then the best thing to do is cut your losses and move on. The org is a site for Prince fans. If you're no longer a fan, you shouldn't be here. Go create your own "Prince fans from 1976 up to 2009" forum and post there. Don't berate others who continue to love him because you no longer do (I'm speaking more to Supa and his clique here.) To answer your question, No, I do not think you should be here. But as long as you speak constructively and do not promote the "us vs. them" agenda that some do, I've got no beef with you being here. Love Prince. I save that for someone I know personally but don't say someone shouldn't post here because you don't agree with them. That leads to an us v. them mentality as well. And Supa has no clique. | |
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Whoa, 400 something replies,
I don't know if I can catch up reading this thread. | |
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Vendetta1 said: Oh please. I didn't even name manes when I said that. If it applies to you, then so be it. If not, then keep the party movin'. Love Prince. I save that for someone I know personally but don't say someone shouldn't post here because you don't agree with them. That leads to an us v. them mentality as well. And Supa has no clique. Your comment about Purple Kool-Aid was right under a quote of one of my posts, so I thought it was directed at me. You know right well what I meant by "love," your just being condescending. Yes, Supa has a clique, IMO. https://www.youtube.com/@PurpleKnightsPodcast | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: Whoa, 400 something replies,
Breakdown:
I don't know if I can catch up reading this thread. Aaron got his hand slapped again by Prince. HQuakers support him. Orgers who are not also Quakers really don't give a damn. Film at 11. | |
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bluefish said: emm said: i can *not* dig the person because of how he continues to conduct his personal life and how he treats his fans. my opinion. you are entitled to yours. you didn't answer which box you think i belong in. am i entitled to be on this site or not? The music IS the person, though. It is born out of their heart and mind. I guess I just can't see how you can separate the man from his music. I'm not saying you've got to LOVE the artist (or the music) blindly, as Vendetta1 and others have accused me and other P supporters of doing. I'll admit Prince is FAR from being able to "do no wrong." However I feel if the respect isn't there on your part for Prince as a human being, then the best thing to do is cut your losses and move on. The org is a site for Prince fans. If you're no longer a fan, you shouldn't be here. Go create your own "Prince fans from 1976 up to 2009" forum and post there. Don't berate others who continue to love him because you no longer do (I'm speaking more to Supa and his clique here.) To answer your question, No, I do not think you should be here. But as long as you speak constructively and do not promote the "us vs. them" agenda that some do, I've got no beef with you being here. i appreciate your response but fortunately this site and housequake are public sites and open to all - something that we can thank aaron and ben margolin for... not princeypoo. (where the hell would we be without those two? ) perhaps you could take your own advice and start up your own site for strictly "true" fans... but wait. it's hard to run a site like this. it takes MONEY and good equipment and a high tolerance for bullshit. and what happens when prince's crew starts strong-arming you and threatening to sue you till your bankrupt? will you still sing his praises as a human being? if not will your appreciation for his music suddenly evaporate? of course not. neighbor. i've traveled long distances to meet other prince fans (yes, i consider myself a fan since ummm... i am a fan of the music ) but i guess a trip to SD isn't going to be in the works anytime soon since you've suggested i "cut my losses" oh well. guess i'll just have to plan on meeting up with vendetta and supa instead | |
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bluefish said: Vendetta1 said: Oh please. I didn't even name manes when I said that. If it applies to you, then so be it. If not, then keep the party movin'. Love Prince. I save that for someone I know personally but don't say someone shouldn't post here because you don't agree with them. That leads to an us v. them mentality as well. And Supa has no clique. Your comment about Purple Kool-Aid was right under a quote of one of my posts, so I thought it was directed at me. You know right well what I meant by "love," your just being condescending. Yes, Supa has a clique, IMO. Did you see that thread where I challenged why exactly women deserve to bribe a man in order to get married? Those cliques turn to dust might fast 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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emm said: bluefish said: The music IS the person, though. It is born out of their heart and mind. I guess I just can't see how you can separate the man from his music. I'm not saying you've got to LOVE the artist (or the music) blindly, as Vendetta1 and others have accused me and other P supporters of doing. I'll admit Prince is FAR from being able to "do no wrong." However I feel if the respect isn't there on your part for Prince as a human being, then the best thing to do is cut your losses and move on. The org is a site for Prince fans. If you're no longer a fan, you shouldn't be here. Go create your own "Prince fans from 1976 up to 2009" forum and post there. Don't berate others who continue to love him because you no longer do (I'm speaking more to Supa and his clique here.) To answer your question, No, I do not think you should be here. But as long as you speak constructively and do not promote the "us vs. them" agenda that some do, I've got no beef with you being here. i appreciate your response but fortunately this site and housequake are public sites and open to all - something that we can thank aaron and ben margolin for... not princeypoo. (where the hell would we be without those two? ) perhaps you could take your own advice and start up your own site for strictly "true" fans... but wait. it's hard to run a site like this. it takes MONEY and good equipment and a high tolerance for bullshit. and what happens when prince's crew starts strong-arming you and threatening to sue you till your bankrupt? will you still sing his praises as a human being? if not will your appreciation for his music suddenly evaporate? of course not. neighbor. i've traveled long distances to meet other prince fans (yes, i consider myself a fan since ummm... i am a fan of the music ) but i guess a trip to SD isn't going to be in the works anytime soon since you've suggested i "cut my losses" oh well. guess i'll just have to plan on meeting up with vendetta and supa instead | |
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Vendetta1 said: emm said: i appreciate your response but fortunately this site and housequake are public sites and open to all - something that we can thank aaron and ben margolin for... not princeypoo. (where the hell would we be without those two? ) perhaps you could take your own advice and start up your own site for strictly "true" fans... but wait. it's hard to run a site like this. it takes MONEY and good equipment and a high tolerance for bullshit. and what happens when prince's crew starts strong-arming you and threatening to sue you till your bankrupt? will you still sing his praises as a human being? if not will your appreciation for his music suddenly evaporate? of course not. neighbor. i've traveled long distances to meet other prince fans (yes, i consider myself a fan since ummm... i am a fan of the music ) but i guess a trip to SD isn't going to be in the works anytime soon since you've suggested i "cut my losses" oh well. guess i'll just have to plan on meeting up with vendetta and supa instead ME DAMN TOO! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Anxiety said: sometimes i think it can be said that art can transcend the person who crafts it. for example, i think woody allen is a miserable human being, but i think he's written and directed some great movies. i think his art is bigger than he is as a person. it's a gift, i guess, to be a channel of creativity like that. And that is the reason why I will never abandon his work pre-body snatch. i read that as "pre-snatch" at first. | |
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Anxiety said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: And that is the reason why I will never abandon his work pre-body snatch. i read that as "pre-snatch" at first. | |
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luv4u said: Anxiety said: There's not enough coffee in the world for me this morning.
yeah and I'm sick with a cold/flu and it's my Bday too today! Happy Birthday If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Vendetta1 said: I would love to meet you.
ME DAMN TOO! i have a lot of admiration for the both of you and that is what the prince community is all about. and why it's a shame that aaron's been pushed to the edge. in ben's words from his blog on the front page, We just want to bring folks together who might have now, or have had, a common interest, a common thread of experience as a basis for sparking communication and speaking with a bit of shared lexicon.
thank you housequake and thank you p.org for that environment you have fostered for us. | |
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