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Reply #270 posted 11/05/07 4:21pm

4everYoung

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Prince has always been a fighter. A rebel. A non-conformist. For a just cause. From fighting for total control of producing and arranging his music to fighting his record label for his masters.

But now his causes are not just, and yet he still has that rebel inside of him to fight. That part of him will never go away.

Prince, you need to do some self-analyzing and use your fighting spirit towards a greater cause that will actually make an impact for good, for the better . . . think Bono, Prince . . . . think Sudan, Prince . . . think about how you can channel all this fighting energy into making a difference globally.
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Reply #271 posted 11/05/07 4:21pm

BSK3478

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

This is surely at the heart of it but WE are not the problem. The industry is the one who used and abused him and like many abuse victims he is now inflicting the same shit on innocent people much like an abused boy will grow up to be an abusive father.

omfg dammit supa, get outta my head! that's exactly what i was gonna state: the saddest thing about all this is that prince has more or less become the very thing that he rallied against for half of his career.

the right to express one's self and speak out against things does not start and end with just you, mr. nelson. it never has, and it most certainly never will.
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Reply #272 posted 11/05/07 4:24pm

roodboi

Imago said:

roodboi said:




Dan...I would never feel comfortable making you swoon...bow down and worship maybe...but swoon-no no no!


...and I would be willing to bet thats its not internal strife tearing you apart inside...it's probably your raw/vegan diet from this weekend...nod


There are not enough falloff emoticons, obligatory or otherwise, to encompass how funny/witty this post is.

It would have faired far better in GD where most folks would understand the reference, but it still places roodboi in firm standing in uber orger status.

Who's with me on this??!!??


conceptually, and more important, literally; this is your best post ever....
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Reply #273 posted 11/05/07 4:24pm

SexyBeautifulO
ne

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OMG, how confused is everyone going to be with the same avatar falloff



I like the same avatar thing! It shows solidarity! Kinda in the spirit of how we all would wear our Prince gear to his concerts. Perhaps the only safe place to wear that stuff that we spent loads of our hard earned cold hard cash on simply because we wanted to show our love, support and encouragement to someone who needed love, support and encouragement but I digress.

Wait, no I don't! I want a PFU t-shirt! That where I was going with that! biggrin
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Reply #274 posted 11/05/07 4:25pm

HereToRockYour
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SexyBeautifulOne said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

OMG, how confused is everyone going to be with the same avatar falloff



I like the same avatar thing! It shows solidarity! Kinda in the spirit of how we all would wear our Prince gear to his concerts. Perhaps the only safe place to wear that stuff that we spent loads of our hard earned cold hard cash on simply because we wanted to show our love, support and encouragement to someone who needed love, support and encouragement but I digress.

Wait, no I don't! I want a PFU t-shirt! That where I was going with that! biggrin



I want a big PFU stamp to use on all of my current Prince tshirts. lol
oh noes, prince is gonna soo me!!1!
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Reply #275 posted 11/05/07 4:27pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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gemini13 said:

utopia7 said:

Prince made himself none of us made him who is is we just happened to to dig what he does and support don't get it twisted because Prince is your vice
shoo we all are in some shape form hardcore fans in various areas
there are

hardcore prince bashers
hardcore lovers of the music
hardcore bootleggers
hardcore groupies
hardcore collectors
hardcore concert go-ers


there lies the problem just because you invested time or money doesn not mean you OWN some one or have the right to do or say what you please at the expense of the person in question


your BOSS doesn't own you they feel they do because the employ you
your own Parents don't own you they do hav the right to guide or suggest
the decision or path one takes is in their mind and jurisdiction



Check it out. I will SAY WHATEVER THE FUCK I WISH TO SAY ABOUT ANYONE, and NO ONE is going to stifle that EVER.

Understand?


I wish Prince was your boyfriend lol None of this would be happening biggrin
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #276 posted 11/05/07 4:28pm

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eek Shit. This is getting serious isn't it?! I gotta say that my mind is all over the place on this one...

Firstly I have to say that I'm so thoroughly disgusted with Prince's camp and their actions - talk about biting the hand that feeds you!

I'd like to read a copy of the letters that they sent before I really start to go into a spin about it all. I'd also like to hear what the man himself thinks and hear him explain his actions.

I'm having a really hard time believing that he is actually doing this and part of me wants to give him the benefit of the doubt and say that it's his lawyers being completely over-zealous... but in my heart I know that's not true sad

Do you know I have only just finished explaining the whole name change/slave thing to people, now I'm going to have to explain this.. and I don't think I have the energy left. He's making a right tit of himself.

I mean... WHY? Why is he doing this?! The impression that I am getting is that he wants the fame but not the fans.. if that's the case why doesn't he just retire and play for himself... not that I want that to happen, I love Prince's music (not really feelin' for the man himself at the moment) and long may he continue to release music, but he shouldn't stroke us with one hand and then punch us with the other - it's really not fuckin' on.
I'm not stopping. I haven't even taken my coat off

C'mon and dance while you, while you still have your cherry babe, cherry babe..

www.KerrysCakes.org.uk
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Reply #277 posted 11/05/07 4:31pm

Xodus

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PFU could also stand for "Prince, fuck U."
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Reply #278 posted 11/05/07 4:32pm

AcidRockGemini

PRINCE ESTA MUERTO.

It's funny 'cause the other day I was thinking to myself that I was done with Prince. I've seen him 4 times in concert. I've met him. And he hasn't put out music in the last 5 or 6 years that I have really enjoyed anyway. His music used to mean something to me when I was younger,but now it sounds like all other generic r&b out there.

I wish TheOrg luck in the fight and I will follow it. but as for the rest of it I say again...

PRINCE ESTA MUERTO wink
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Reply #279 posted 11/05/07 4:34pm

Anxiety

MrsGoodnight said:

eek Shit. This is getting serious isn't it?!


sly said it best: THERE'S A RIOT GOIN' ON. nod
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Reply #280 posted 11/05/07 4:34pm

SupaFunkyOrgan
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Imago said:

ButterscotchPimp said:

eek


wow. i go to work for a couple of hours, and come back to THIS?
yikes.

well, as always i'm chock full of ideas/statements.

the first thing i'll say is.....



remember when i WARNED people that getting tattoos of ANY artists was a BAD idea, because you never know if that artist will do something to change your mind/opinion? i bet there's a few of ya'll that wish you hadn't done that now, eh? no worries. a really GOOD tattoo artist will be able to cover that up.

now. on to my ideas on this subject.
some have stated that there's really nothing that you as fans can do about this. i beg to differ.

FIRST of all, and i know Ben doesn't have to listen to me but i'd change the name of this place with the quickness. as a matter of fact, i'd hold a contest with the Orgers to come up with something. www.purplenazi.org sounds freaking hilarious to me. (i didn't come up with "purple nazi", but i sure as hell am going to be wearing that out)

AND then, back to the fans.

I SERIOUSLY think that we, the Prince fans should stage some sort of protest. We know how rabid and loyal Prince fans as a group are, and Prince has ALWAYS taken that for granted. NOW, i think that we should use that strength and stand up for ourselves. I know that I would go whereever for something like that.

If it's in Minneapolis? fine. Make it anywhere. Chicago, LA, NYC, Detroit, whereever. Have multiple ones in many cities, but make them all on the same date. But there'd have to be some central theme/advertising done to get more bang for the buck. Try to get some local news coverage. I think a couple hundred Prince fans staging a "Prince-out" and smashing their cd's and burning some effigies would sure get the local media's attention.

Prince needs to understand that enough is enough. We as fans don't need to be told how to think about him. He's not our f-ing father!!!

I'm going to leave it at that, because there's a lot of other insults/profanity that's bubbling to the surface, but we're trying to keep it civil.

That's all i've got for now.



We can start by requesting our memberships at 3121.con be deleted.



I don't have the time to go there and figure out how to delete my account but if someone figures this out, please share it with us. I want off the official site like NOW!
2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740
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Reply #281 posted 11/05/07 4:36pm

ritaw

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Imago said:




We can start by requesting our memberships at 3121.con be deleted.



I don't have the time to go there and figure out how to delete my account but if someone figures this out, please share it with us. I want off the official site like NOW!


you could try updating your details and delete it yourself
"C'mon y'all - let me hear you sing, c'mon y'all, shake, c'mon y'all, jump" - Yes Prince -
"London do you feel for me what I feel for you"- yes Prince -
"Can I play my guitar now?" - yes please
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Reply #282 posted 11/05/07 4:36pm

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I love how the logo could easily stand for Prince: FUCK YOU!!!

lol
Space for sale...
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Reply #283 posted 11/05/07 4:36pm

2the9s

Ummm...before everyone goes off half cocked (I think that ship has sailed lol ) what exactly is it that we are being asked to support or get all riled up about or whatever?

I don't see anything but a summary (by the "hurt" parties) of the letters P.'s attorneys or whoever sent the site owners of these fan sites.

Can we get the text of the letter/s?


But anyway, I never really visited the gallery, not being, you know, a 13 year old girl...
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Reply #284 posted 11/05/07 4:37pm

horatio

irregardless of what his recent front is,
he is with/a part of UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT


wink
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Reply #285 posted 11/05/07 4:37pm

TonyVanDam

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sosgemini said:

I love how the logo could easily stand for Prince: FUCK YOU!!!

lol


I figured the SAME damn thing! lol
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Reply #286 posted 11/05/07 4:39pm

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Reply #287 posted 11/05/07 4:39pm

roodboi

2the9s said:

Ummm...before everyone goes off half cocked (I think that ship has sailed lol ) what exactly is it that we are being asked to support or get all riled up about or whatever?

I don't see anything but a summary (by the "hurt" parties) of the letters P.'s attorneys or whoever sent the site owners of these fan sites.

Can we get the text of the letter/s?


But anyway, I never really visited the gallery, not being, you know, a 13 year old girl...


falloff
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Reply #288 posted 11/05/07 4:39pm

ritaw

TonyVanDam said:

sosgemini said:

I love how the logo could easily stand for Prince: FUCK YOU!!!

lol


I figured the SAME damn thing! lol


how charming y'all are NOT
"C'mon y'all - let me hear you sing, c'mon y'all, shake, c'mon y'all, jump" - Yes Prince -
"London do you feel for me what I feel for you"- yes Prince -
"Can I play my guitar now?" - yes please
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Reply #289 posted 11/05/07 4:40pm

Imago

2the9s said:

Ummm...before everyone goes off half cocked (I think that ship has sailed lol ) what exactly is it that we are being asked to support or get all riled up about or whatever?

I don't see anything but a summary (by the "hurt" parties) of the letters P.'s attorneys or whoever sent the site owners of these fan sites.

Can we get the text of the letter/s?


But anyway, I never really visited the gallery, not being, you know, a 13 year old girl...



9s, please go back to P&R. You're ruining the mood and this doesn't concern you much anyways. hug
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Reply #290 posted 11/05/07 4:40pm

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horatio said:

irreguardless of what his recent front is,
he is with/a part of UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT


"irreguardless??"

Just back from your Springer taping?

Horatio, I am so disappointed in you.

Irreguardless of that, I still love you.
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Reply #291 posted 11/05/07 4:41pm

horatio

JustErin said:

horatio said:

irreguardless of what his recent front is,
he is with/a part of UNIVERSAL ENTERTAINMENT


"irreguardless??"

Just back from your Springer taping?

Horatio, I am so disappointed in you.

Irreguardless of that, I still love you.


mr.green
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Reply #292 posted 11/05/07 4:42pm

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I'm not about to go burning my albums or T shirts here. lol That's a bit extreme for me. His being an ass about this doesn't make me any less a fan of the music I've loved for years.

But I looooove that Ben and all are standing up to what amounts to schoolyard bullying.
"I have money and lawyers so do what I say!" mad

I may be a bit leery of where my money goes in the future (I stopped going to Paisley parties for a long time cause I was sick of the BS that went on there), but I'm not gonna say I'll never pay to see him in concert again either. I guess I'll have to see how this all plays out.
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Reply #293 posted 11/05/07 4:42pm

roodboi

...I guess it's fair to say I'll be renewing my Backstreet Boys fanclub membership...
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Reply #294 posted 11/05/07 4:44pm

2the9s

Imago said:

2the9s said:

Ummm...before everyone goes off half cocked (I think that ship has sailed lol ) what exactly is it that we are being asked to support or get all riled up about or whatever?

I don't see anything but a summary (by the "hurt" parties) of the letters P.'s attorneys or whoever sent the site owners of these fan sites.

Can we get the text of the letter/s?


But anyway, I never really visited the gallery, not being, you know, a 13 year old girl...



9s, please go back to P&R. You're ruining the mood and this doesn't concern you much anyways. hug


The only way this is going to end is through litigation.

shrug
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Reply #295 posted 11/05/07 4:44pm

SexyBeautifulO
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i know i am just a kid* but i have learned that prince gets over things and cancels them so i think in about a two years or less everything will be back to normal.


*i am only 13 i am still learning!


Aww, that's sweet! I hope you're right. cool
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Reply #296 posted 11/05/07 4:44pm

herb4

What an asshole.

I'm behind Fans United 100%.

Hey Prince, way to shit all over the people that paid for your houses, symbol jewelry, cars...

Indeed: your LAWYERS you're using to sue us. WE paid for them.

Kindly lay off your fans - your few remaining supporters - and please get back to producing worthwhile, challenging and innovative music.After listening to Planet Earth, I understood immediately why you were reduced to giving the fucking thing away.

So what now, exactly? Now we have to fight YOU for the right to remain your fans, discuss your work and hand you OUR money? What's your problem? I met my wife thanks to this website - my ONLY wife, BTW. We played your music for our first dance.

WE pay YOUR bills. How many enemies do you have to invent, conquer and re-invent before you finally run out of them? Now it's come to this? Fuck you, Prince, and give my regards to the "twins". They bring SO MUCH to the band.

Thanks.

Herb4
Jacksonville, FL

Fans United: Shoot me an org note for financial contributions for the legal defense. If we win, I say we take the fucking thing down out of spite, or least change the name to Princegofuckyourself.org
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Reply #297 posted 11/05/07 4:46pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

usamud said:

This is so sad. I was just about to get my "symbol" tattoo. I don't know now. In a way I can understand Prince. If you look at the history of popular music, so many artists have been cheated, lied to and totally lost control of their art. Someone else makes the big bucks and beloved artists end up starving artists. Prince wants to make sure he keeps control. Some of us innocent by standers get hit in this legal drive by shooting.

This is surely at the heart of it but WE are not the problem. The industry is the one who used and abused him and like many abuse victims he is now inflicting the same shit on innocent people much like an abused boy will grow up to be an abusive father. THANK GOD for the other artists in my life that will occupy the artistic space that made me love Prince in the first place. I will always look at the Prince of yesteryear, the one who fearlessly forged his own way and led many of us through bitter times and heartache. I can and will always look back with Pride. But I have enough good times in my memory banks to call it a day as far as Prince is concerned.


I hear ya! Actually, I think it was after 3121 when I realized that I could really care less about anything new from Prince. The Roosevelt Hotel live shows were when I realized I'd seen enough of him and that I did not wish to pay over 3k to see him or anybody (well maybe Joni Mitchell, if she ever plays live again, and that's a maybe) live. I basically come here to communicate with you Richard. And to find out about Madonna's minute by minute career moves from MikeMatronik and SoulAlive. And of course all the possible live shows, new bands to check out. And I find the P&R forum both educational and amusing. And let's not forget about the General Discussion forum: absolute comedy. This place turned out to be about many things than just Prince.
rainbow

"...literal people are scary, man
literal people scare me
out there trying to rid the world of its poetry
while getting it wrong fundamentally
down at the church of "look, it says right here, see!" - ani difranco
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Reply #298 posted 11/05/07 4:46pm

herb4

Anxiety said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:

First things first, is that pic in the gallery? I want my avatar changed?


click the big hand graphic on the main page...beneath the press release, you'll see a link to avatars and banners you can use. nod


COOL!

Can I remove 3 fingers from it?
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Reply #299 posted 11/05/07 4:47pm

Imago

2the9s said:

Imago said:




9s, please go back to P&R. You're ruining the mood and this doesn't concern you much anyways. hug


The only way this is going to end is through litigation.

shrug

Well, if the feds get involved, we're looking at another preemptive Iraqi invasion for sure. It's the only way to solve problems.
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