Really, though? How the hell did I just end up in 'Fan Gatherings'?

BanishedBrian said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really, though? How the hell did I just end up in 'Fan Gatherings'?

I wonder if a mod can give any logic explanation for moving the thread here .......

Serious said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really, though? How the hell did I just end up in 'Fan Gatherings'?

I wonder if a mod can give any logic explanation for moving the thread here .......

I would also like to know

Ugh! Poor Prince. This all just feels like its been a quick money grab based on his name and legacy. So many missteps already with the tribute, the tours, etc.

I don't think his "hometown" let him down or whatever. He has a lot of support in the community, including the mayor and city council. They just need to get it done right.

The bottom line is that Prince deserves the utmost respect after all he has given to the community, to the music world, to charitable organizations, and to his fans. That's what matters most to me anyway.

THIS!

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I feel sorry for all of you people who actually invested your hard earned money on this Crap!

sonshine said:

Ugh! Poor Prince. This all just feels like its been a quick money grab based on his name and legacy. So many missteps already with the tribute, the tours, etc.

I don't think his "hometown" let him down or whatever. He has a lot of support in the community, including the mayor and city council. They just need to get it done right.

The bottom line is that Prince deserves the utmost respect after all he has given to the community, to the music world, to charitable organizations, and to his fans. That's what matters most to me anyway.

[Edited 10/4/16 19:11pm]

Bankinherpocket said:

CherryMoon57 said:

The date is listed on the planning commission agenda document I have but on that version, the "Items" column for this meeting was left blank.

Hey Cherry! Yes, I think that's because it's not a public meeting...or at least the meeting isn't open to public comments.

Thanks for the clarification.

rogifan said:

BanishedBrian said:

I've visited Paisley Park many times, and I've never spent a dime in Chanhassen. Have you been there? It's a bedroom suburb where Prince happened to build Paisley Park. For example, I don't believe there's even a single rental car office in Chanhassen.

Chanhassen is a suburb of 23,000 people. Since when do people not spend money in suburbs? And people think the citizens of Chanhassen are snobs... [Edited 10/4/16 15:35pm]

Chanhassen is an inner suburb with cul-de-sac housing and a couple outdated strip malls. There is no "there" there (other than PP and the Chanhassen Dinner Theater, which I would guess no PP visitor will know to buy tickets to). You can get to PP in 15 minutes from downtown St. Paul or Minneapolis, or in about 5 from Bloomington. Nobody visting PP is going to spend any money in Chanhassen other than on the PP premises.

Even if you randomly start driving looking for a gas station, you'll be in Eden Prarie within about 2 minutes.

Taking your purple goggles off, any economic boost that PP may provide in terms of ancillary spending is not going to be within the limits of Chanhassen - the money will be spent in Minneapolis/St.Paul/Bloomington, etc.

MD431Madcat said:

THIS!

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I feel sorry for all of you people who actully invested your hard earned money on this Crap!

sonshine said:

Ugh! Poor Prince. This all just feels like its been a quick money grab based on his name and legacy. So many missteps already with the tribute, the tours, etc.

I don't think his "hometown" let him down or whatever. He has a lot of support in the community, including the mayor and city council. They just need to get it done right.

The bottom line is that Prince deserves the utmost respect after all he has given to the community, to the music world, to charitable organizations, and to his fans. That's what matters most to me anyway.

I agree. It's never been about honoring Prince or for the fans. It's all about the money. In both meetings they said the 5 biggest days would be during the first two weeks, because of it tying into the concert and so many coming from out of state etc. They must have been up all night trying to figure out how not to have to refund that money.

I'm glad that those going haven't lost their money entirely.

[Edited 10/4/16 15:59pm]

Ooh, fan gatherings! Haven't been 'round these parts since about '07.

TheEnglishGent said:

Ooh, fan gatherings! Haven't been 'round these parts since about '07.

It would be nice for them to say why when its not specifically fan gatherings...

Fan gatherings seems the natural home for a localised event.. I also think they need to introduce 'Fam Sandbox', but thats a whole different story....

StopIt said:

Excuse me?

There is someone out there actually believing that any of the poobahs billing at 6 minute intervals for Bremer, AND

the few (if any) competent folks among the collective heirs' bevy of legal teams; AND

the juggernaut that is Graceland Holdings; AND

(the McMillan et al lazy shamtastics) AND

many more,

ALL collectively (yet blindly) banked on some po-dunk City-Counsel's initial brainfarts without Anyone dotting every "i" and crossing every "t" every single step of the way since?!

Local public service people have to be closely tended to, massaged, incentivized, and have their asses kissed consistently by the interest groups, period.

Lawyers know this, its their job.

But don't worry, those members will get paid off in more loans against the estate and from elsewhere for an emergency meeting for a "temporary permit" to park on the grass and dump confused mourners with lowered expectations.

Hummus cracker in a tote bag, Damn.

You must be a lawyer...I read all of your posts and you consistently speak like a lawyer

[Edited 10/4/16 17:15pm]

SquirrelMeat said:

one2vibe said:

The more I think about it, As much money as I have spent on Prince and Prince related merchandise, concerts, music, I'm pretty sure I helped pay for part of Paisley Park If not a brick at least a door or door knob. Thats it I'm comming for my share, I bought that front door knob to paisley park, I'm taking my claim. PURPLE LIVES MATTER!!!!!

I really feel you you. I've been on the wrong end of poor PRN Productions too many times.

But you know its a great city, you've still got the memorial and dance parties, a visit outside of the park, lake Minnatonka, First Ave, Calhoun Sq, Electric Featus and of course the great cinema showings of the films. Soak it up... and steal the door knob. Its yours.

Well Thank the Sun Moon and Stars, My tickets for the tour are on Friday the 14th. :O) I lucked out. But I may just take the door knob still for sake of it and for my othe Purple Fams.

PURPLE LIVES MATTER!!!

BanishedBrian said:

PennyPurple said:

Don't need to try again, because the masses aren't going to be coming to Chanhassen for the museum til this gets straightened out (after those few select dates that the council pulled out of its hat). Rental cars need gas, correct?

If I hold a giant kegger at my house this weekend, my neighborhood will get as many benefits as Chanhassen will out of PP opening.

Looks like Chanhassen has a Wendy's, Noodle & Co, Perkins, Coffee Shops, Sub Shops, Sushi, a Pub, Buffalo Wild Wings, etc. All of these business's would benefit. It also looks like they have gas stations too. So yeah, I think it would help the economy of that town to have PP opened.

Genesia said:

You can't fix stupid.

WTF is your problem?

tclifton said:

Luvu4ever said:

VERY unlike anything Prince himself would have done.

Ha. This one made me laugh out loud. This makes me actually wonder if Prince is is still alive running things as this is exactly the sort of thing he would do.

I am sure you're not alone in that. I believe he had a history of expecting people to read his mind, and then blame them when things went wrong.

i tried to warn folks!

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Tell me about it!

sad

purplethunder3121 said:

Bankinherpocket said:

THIS JUST IN:

https://twitter.com/LouRa...1253035010

Well, partial good news. They should have covered all the tour dates during that period, not just some.

[Edited 10/4/16 13:45pm]

I thought Prince dispensed with that logo long ago.

Who the hell wants to go the Mall of America to see Prince items....thats like going to the Target Superstore and buying copies of Musicology cd's in the bargin bin.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really, though? How the hell did I just end up in 'Fan Gatherings'?

lmao

PennyPurple said:

Genesia said:

You can't fix stupid.

WTF is your problem?

Chronic troll. Best not engage.

oliviacamron said:

Dear Chanhassen residents who are against living in a " tourist town" . If you moved into Chanhassen after Paisley Park was built in 1985, then shut the f* ck up because Paisley Park was there before you ,. It was already a tourist attraction.

Wasn't the area little more than swamp and farm land before Paisley Park was built? I'm sure some of the business owe their existence to Paisley Park, also wouldn't the property value of some residents have increased as a direct result of Paisley Park??

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[Edited 10/7/16 1:09am]

AlexHahn said:

This situation is certainly not the fault of the City Counsel. They are acting as a dligent municipal body and evaluating an important issue in what appears to be a methodical manner.

The fact that tickets were sold, and announcements made about the opening of PP as a museum before this issue was put before the City Counsel, is a shameful and gross example of mismanagement that is gravely against the interests of the estate and the legacy of Prince Rogers Nelson.

The Bremer Trust has revealed itself to be an amateurish and shamefully inept steward. Any beneficiary of PRN's estate should be in court this afternoon petitioning for the removal of the Trust.

The tens of thousands of dollars of fees that the Trust has charged to the Estate should be disgorged.

Agreed, three thousand, one hundred and twenty one percent (see what I did there?) - Bremer Trust has repeatedly shown itself to be completely incompetent and unable to handle this estate. The appalling manner in which they have so far handled the planning of one tribute concert and now this ... I just hope to Hundalasiliah that they are not able to continue in the capacity of managing the estate/trust/whatever the wording us (legal stuffs is hard). Can you imagine what a gigantic clusterfuck the releasing of any kind of vault music would be?


When you out-clusterfuck Prince, one of the most collosally constant clusterfuckers around (who I love and mourn every fucking day) then there is seriously something wrong. He was able to hold Celebrations that appeared to be done by very few people with no involvement from any Big Organizations, and here we're finding out that apparently they not only knew that it wasn't a sure deal that the city would allow it to go through starting tomorrow, but by the language used in that statement (that they were told they would be selling tickets "at their own risk") that pretty darn clearly shows that the city was not going to just rubber stamp it.


Having said that, I think it's shitty that none of the City Council members or the Mayor got in touch with the Star Tribune or any national media (or for fuck's sake, Dr. Funkenberry if he's still doing his blog thing) to warn people that they had not given any kind of red light or promises of an approval in advance of their meeting - something. They know that people are planning trips, making airplane arrangements, making hotel arrangements, taking off work, making childcare arrangements, etc. to visit their city, so that would have (in my eyes anyway) made them not look like the crotchety bastards that they are coming across as currently.

My friend had agreed to go to PP with me (I live in Ohio and was lucky enough to visit once in 2003 and twice in 2004, seeing Prince play once as well as doing two dance party things and trying to pretend that THAT'S NOT MOTHERFUCKING PRINCE RIGHT THERE WATCHING ME DANCE OH MY GOD) and he has suggested MLK weekend as he has the day off, and Southwest was having a brief little airfare sale, so we bought non-refundable tickets to MPLS in mid-January (the lady at Southwest who I bought the ticket from kept saying things like 'You know it will be really really cold, right?', and I will now be paying for his ticket and I guess just staying home if it doesn't happen by that point, which seems rather likely.


And I wasn't able to see the Revolution. Or attend any of the public dance parties the week of his passing. Or any time after that. And I wasn't able to see any of those NPG shows before the Rev shows. And I'm not able to see either the official family-sponsored Tribute next Thursday (I think that's when it is?) or the one with Sheila and The Time the following Saturday (even though it's in my home state, damn it) because I've been starting a new job and buying a house, and taking care of my family, and next Thursday my cousin is getting married in Charlotte, SC, blah blah blah...

What I'm trying to say is, I was sooooo looking forward to this chance to mourn his passing. I absolutely feel that I have not been able to do that despite crying a lot for the first few months, more than I'd admit to most people who aren't on the org, and lately I have moments (whole days even) when I can listen to his music and not find sad irony in the lyrics and not get incredibly dismayed by the fact that "There'llneverbeanotherlikehim," you know? and after reading that it was not approved this morning, I was trying to listen to him because I needed a pick-me-up, a confidence booster, and throughout 34 of the 41 years I've been on this third apartment from the sun, his music is what does that for me, and I'm hoping that if I find a way to get this feeling the fuck out in an appropriate setting then I can get that feeling of joy again from the music. I mean, I still get the joy but it's mixed with such intense grief that it then becomes about that. Today I had a good 45 minutes of that Old Prince Feeling, listening to a mix cd I made back in '01 of various tracks from NPGC Vol 1.. but once again, it then became melancholy and morose, and I'm really this doesn't get a ton of press coverage because my friend will be stressed about it, and he's a good guy to offer to go with me, and FUCK this is just as mess, and I need to go to bed.

I guess I had to get that out there. Fucking Prince. Even in death it's still Lucy pulling that football away from Charlie Browns like us

[Edited 10/5/16 2:31am]

Serious said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really, though? How the hell did I just end up in 'Fan Gatherings'?

I wonder if a mod can give any logic explanation for moving the thread here .......

I reported the post to attract mod attention, so hopefully someone will pop up soon and explain.

rogifan said:

BanishedBrian said:

I've visited Paisley Park many times, and I've never spent a dime in Chanhassen. Have you been there? It's a bedroom suburb where Prince happened to build Paisley Park. For example, I don't believe there's even a single rental car office in Chanhassen.

Chanhassen is a suburb of 23,000 people. Since when do people not spend money in suburbs? And people think the citizens of Chanhassen are snobs... [Edited 10/4/16 15:35pm]

The thing is regarding hotels/motels, Chanhassen only has the puny Chanhassen Inn, there are no Hotels or motels in Chanhassen itself!! For that u have to either go to Eden Prairie, Chaska, Shakopee or Bloomington!! So, its obvious that Chanhassen doesnt want to cater to tourism!!