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Reply #90 posted 05/08/04 6:39am

Abrazo

SensualMelody said:

Abrazo said:


If prince made a sound recording of an old hymne or used some Bible texts the sound recording is copyrighted (automatically by law), but the underlying hymne or Bible text is not.

As for the allegations of alienating certain members, that is nothing new to me. Prince, nor the club, in recent years, have shown that they truly follow the norms and values they claim to hold dear.

Hello Abrazo.
How are you sweetie?
All the hymns in our songbook are written and composed by JWs.
They are contibuted. They are not standard hymns that you would find in any other songbook.
No names are mentiones as to honor the contributor.
Many times we get together and sometimes we sing kingdom songs or musicians may play them. Larry Graham has done similarly...as well as lesser known musicians.
But the compositions belong to the WT Bible and Tract Society.
It's good to hear from you.
hug
[This message was edited Mon May 3 6:27:45 2004 by SensualMelody]

Hi Sensual,

Good to hear from you and see you around. smile

You are right that if the hymns were written by JW's, not so long ago, they are protected by copyright . But I was actually referring to old hymns, those that are too old to still be protected by copyright, like original Bible texts are.

JW's could also claim to own the copyright to the Bible texts of the "New Translation", if they are sufficiently original enough to constitute a new work. You can see then however that the new text must differ substantially from the old, which is probably not a good idea. Nevertheless the collection of works that is a newly published Bible (in whatever translation) is also protected by copyright. So JW's don't have to "own" all the newly translated texts; it is sufficient protection to own the copyright of the new collection.

As for the "no names are mentioned to honor the contributor" of hymns; that is okay when the contributor has agreed that his/her name won't be mentioned as author. If they did not, it's not okay.
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #91 posted 05/08/04 6:48am

Abrazo

Universaluv said:

katt said:

They had to be constantly reminded that freedom off speech for all not just for one section of society. After all haven’t we all got a right to have freedom to believe in what we wish?


Nice sentiment. But freedom of speech/religion has nothing to do with the NPGMC. Those freedoms just mean that the Government can't restrict your speech or religious beliefs.

You are saying that constitutional rights only work "vertical" (i.e. government -> citizen) which is not entirely true, because they also work "horizontal" (citizen -> citizen).

NPGMC is a private entity and it can censor your speech however it wants. Doesn't mean you shouldn't be upset though.

That's true if the NPGMC clearly states it reserves the right to restrict speech on their privately owned website (which it does, so no discussion about that).

But even then, their "freedom" to limit your "freedom" is not entirely unlimited just because it is a privately owned website, since they have willingly opened up their "private" website to the general public; with that willingness to be a public website comes a responsibility and duty to honor others constutional rights.

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[This message was edited Sat May 8 6:49:41 2004 by Abrazo]
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Reply #92 posted 05/08/04 6:51am

Abrazo

psykosoul said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:

Sometimes people use "freedom of speech" as an excuse to be assholes!


worship I think I've found my signature for the week.

It's okay that people are free to be assholes, as long as they don't break the law while being that.
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Reply #93 posted 05/08/04 8:23am

katt

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[Edited 10/19/07 17:14pm]
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Reply #94 posted 05/08/04 10:37am

SENSHY

katt said:

It been brought to my attention that a certain member of the club thinks this thread is directed at them, this is NOT the case, and by what i have written i have not once mentioned anything of this person or mentioned anyones name and i will not be accused off doing so either.

If i have caused anyone pain then i do apologise that was never my intentions. I fully regret entering into this thread and giving my opinion on certain subjects it seems that i am not allowed to have an opinion on such matters and by doing so i am being accused of doing something i am not.

This cyber world is just too weird for me, think I shall return to lurking again.…

Peace




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[This message was edited Sat May 8 8:48:37 2004 by katt]


Sheeit..dont lurk. Say what ya wanna say. Just because some folks caught feelings or misinterpret is no reason to ruin or limit your experience. Especially over this type of boolshet. Tell them to get a g.r.i.p.
Oh my, oh my.
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Reply #95 posted 05/08/04 3:37pm

kdowney

katt said:

It been brought to my attention that a certain member of the club thinks this thread is directed at them, this is NOT the case, and by what i have written i have not once mentioned anything of this person or mentioned anyones name and i will not be accused off doing so either.

If i have caused anyone pain then i do apologise that was never my intentions. I fully regret entering into this thread and giving my opinion on certain subjects it seems that i am not allowed to have an opinion on such matters and by doing so i am being accused of doing something i am not.

This cyber world is just too weird for me, think I shall return to lurking again.…

Peace




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[This message was edited Sat May 8 8:48:37 2004 by katt]




girl please.... we know who and we know why... she always thinks things revolve round her..... and its all bout her good or bad... she needs to get over herself and get a grip... so sad she talks shit behind peeps backs and says shit bout those that are online and yet she is the worst with her what 10 plus user names at the club..... its sad those that seek attention good or bad..... come show ur face girl and post on this site..... the ghetto site as U call it... but U rather hide behind lies and at the club.... so who U gonna run to now lol
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Reply #96 posted 05/08/04 3:40pm

SENSHY

kdowney said:

katt said:

It been brought to my attention that a certain member of the club thinks this thread is directed at them, this is NOT the case, and by what i have written i have not once mentioned anything of this person or mentioned anyones name and i will not be accused off doing so either.

If i have caused anyone pain then i do apologise that was never my intentions. I fully regret entering into this thread and giving my opinion on certain subjects it seems that i am not allowed to have an opinion on such matters and by doing so i am being accused of doing something i am not.

This cyber world is just too weird for me, think I shall return to lurking again.…

Peace




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[This message was edited Sat May 8 8:48:37 2004 by katt]




girl please.... we know who and we know why... she always thinks things revolve round her..... and its all bout her good or bad... she needs to get over herself and get a grip... so sad she talks shit behind peeps backs and says shit bout those that are online and yet she is the worst with her what 10 plus user names at the club..... its sad those that seek attention good or bad..... come show ur face girl and post on this site..... the ghetto site as U call it... but U rather hide behind lies and at the club.... so who U gonna run to now lol


I know who it is! I knw who it is!
Oh my, oh my.
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Reply #97 posted 05/08/04 4:30pm

kdowney

SENSHY said:

kdowney said:





girl please.... we know who and we know why... she always thinks things revolve round her..... and its all bout her good or bad... she needs to get over herself and get a grip... so sad she talks shit behind peeps backs and says shit bout those that are online and yet she is the worst with her what 10 plus user names at the club..... its sad those that seek attention good or bad..... come show ur face girl and post on this site..... the ghetto site as U call it... but U rather hide behind lies and at the club.... so who U gonna run to now lol


I know who it is! I knw who it is!



shhh
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Reply #98 posted 05/08/04 8:07pm

monteis2000

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KD you keep your chin up baby. You are much loved.
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Reply #99 posted 05/09/04 3:24pm

katt

I did not say who did i no no no! but yes some do think the world revolve around them..

lurking
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Reply #100 posted 05/10/04 8:26am

wyld1

katt said:

I did not say who did i no no no! but yes some do think the world revolve around them..

lurking


Hey, Katt, don't roll out on us. We've always got along. Sometimes when these things go down, it's best to stay clear of them. Won't be any misunderstandings that way.
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Reply #101 posted 05/10/04 9:55am

katt

wyld1 said:

katt said:

I did not say who did i no no no! but yes some do think the world revolve around them..

lurking


Hey, Katt, don't roll out on us. We've always got along. Sometimes when these things go down, it's best to stay clear of them. Won't be any misunderstandings that way.

Hi wyld1 hug nice 2 see u again, i do hope ur well. From now on i am keeping myself to myself, makes for a easier life, all the drama spoils things from now on i will be like,



i dont want to know nothing, i'm just going to enjoy the music smile


Much Love 2 U wyld1 kiss2
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Reply #102 posted 05/18/04 6:29am

Raine

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I went over to the club today sad they have driven nybuddah319 away as well bawl
there is hardly anyone posting there any more
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Reply #103 posted 05/18/04 8:16am

Anxiety

There was a brief moment this spring where the club was kind of fun and diverse - I think it was a reaction to all the activity going on with Prince being in the mainstream media so much again - but now that things have died down a bit, the "usual suspects" have driven off all the newbies and it's business as usual back at the NPGMC ranch again...
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