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Reply #30 posted 04/30/04 8:44am

Anxiety

katt said:

people need to grow up and realise prince is just doing a job that’s in the publics eye, were not invited into his private life, he aint gonna employ them and he’s never gonna become good buddies, hey were only consumers, i enjoy the mans music but his private life and beliefs are his own just like all of us.


Bravo.
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Reply #31 posted 04/30/04 9:05am

theblueangel

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The conflict arises when Prince on the one hand doesn't want to have his private life exposed to public scrutiny but on the other hand very much encourages the spreading of his private views and beliefs through the NPGMC.
No confusion, no tears. No enemies, no fear. No sorrow, no pain. No ball, no chain.

Sex is not love. Love is not sex. Putting words in other people's mouths will only get you elected.

Need more sleep than coke or methamphetamine.
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Reply #32 posted 04/30/04 10:45am

TheOrgerFormer
lyKnownAs

WTF? I am so sorry, KD. When someone over on the site mistreats someone else, you gotta think they know someone on the inside.
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Reply #33 posted 04/30/04 10:48am

katt

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Reply #34 posted 04/30/04 11:52am

Rowdy

Katt hug
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Reply #35 posted 04/30/04 4:01pm

Haystack

The Stepford Fam shake
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Reply #36 posted 04/30/04 5:26pm

kdowney

ElectricPurple said:

hey kdowney...

AsIAm is still recovering from all ass kicking he got over there... Its all good though... AsIAm is STRONGER from all beatings


aww sweetie i have missed U... hope all is well with U.., thought bout U when i was in NY last month
hug
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Reply #37 posted 05/01/04 4:53am

June19

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katt said:

Anxiety said:

I've even heard rumors that Prince has recorded hymns that are only for the ears of those in his religious "special circle". I think this is bunk, because if these songs were so private, why would people go blabbing about 'em on a message board? Whether this whole concept of a "special JW club" is real or fabrication, it makes a mockery of the true message of the faith and only serves to alienate.



what can ya do? sigh

Its not a rumour it is true, why they are blabbing about them i have not clue sounds like they are trying to show how special and important they are rolleyes and they are the ones that talk about Idolatry they should step back and take a long good look at themselves.

I actually made a comment about it at the time, this one person called me an apostate sigh , and a lot off other words to boot, i was told if i don’t like then don’t stay and if i say anything about it they would get me banned, and now i have been shunned by certain people, like i care, i care for all people not just those who beleive the same as me. If there gonna preach then try and walk like Jesus, he actualy loved us all.

I’ve really had enough off it all, people need to grow up and realise prince is just doing a job that’s in the publics eye, were not invited into his private life, he aint gonna employ them and he’s never gonna become good buddies, hey were only consumers, i enjoy the mans music but his private life and beliefs are his own just like all off us.

To be honest these certain people make me question who i am associating with, the way they are going on the next thing they will be declaring him as a messiah just like they done with Michael Jackson. wacky

Peace

P.S And for those who have been talking behind my back, you cant trust no one, I have the chat text and screen shots, remember what you give out got a bad habit coming right back at you. (Your worse than a bunch of kids in a playground seeking attention and popularity, age brings you maturity its time you lot started using it)
[This message was edited Fri Apr 30 8:32:09 2004 by katt]


Whew...glad we squashed our issues... eek

lol
June 19's Pop Culture Commentary - Beyonce'
- "Besides as much as I love her...she's still a 2 piece, biscuit, hot pepper and strawberry soda away from blowin up... So yes...she's a plain jane like the rest of us..."
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Reply #38 posted 05/01/04 7:02am

katt

June19 said:



Whew...glad we squashed our issues... eek

lol

lol hug
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Reply #39 posted 05/01/04 9:45am

funkm0nk

to quote a source "the mods hate orgers" whatever that means
so if u post bad stuff here it gets back to them and they will take that
into account b4 u r banned from npgmc chat

if members would stop feeding the $25 entrance jar, maybe the practices would b more fair.
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Reply #40 posted 05/01/04 9:58am

Anxiety

funkm0nk said:

to quote a source "the mods hate orgers" whatever that means


Not true. Not true at all.
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Reply #41 posted 05/01/04 10:59am

CynthiasSocks

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CENSORSHIP IS UNAMERICAN!
Socks still got butt like a leather seat...
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Reply #42 posted 05/01/04 12:07pm

katt

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[Edited 10/19/07 16:56pm]
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Reply #43 posted 05/01/04 12:39pm

m3taverse

Hey KD, unbelievable that of all people this happened to you.
PPs divulging personal info to other members is unforgivable, in the real world this would cost someone's job.
My advise is to try and not take it too personal, not all but most of these PPs forgot how to use their brains a long time ago. Some are clearly dealing with anger issues and are downright bitter.
Ironic that this PP1 had no problem divulging personal info about a member, but happily hides behind the anonymous PP moniker him/herself.
"this especially prepared potato is called pomme de terre"
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Reply #44 posted 05/01/04 3:33pm

kdowney

m3taverse said:

Hey KD, unbelievable that of all people this happened to you.
PPs divulging personal info to other members is unforgivable, in the real world this would cost someone's job.
My advise is to try and not take it too personal, not all but most of these PPs forgot how to use their brains a long time ago. Some are clearly dealing with anger issues and are downright bitter.
Ironic that this PP1 had no problem divulging personal info about a member, but happily hides behind the anonymous PP moniker him/herself.


they hid under a regular name to spy and then came in as a mod to kick and make an example of another member.... its sad that some can not discuss but use their powers just cause they can... so much for luvoneanother... Red was a target from day one.... it took me a while to figure it out but it hit me this week why.....
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Reply #45 posted 05/01/04 6:39pm

SENSHY

kdowney said:

... Red was a target from day one.... it took me a while to figure it out but it hit me this week why.....

well...why?
Oh my, oh my.
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Reply #46 posted 05/01/04 8:24pm

kdowney

SENSHY said:

kdowney said:

... Red was a target from day one.... it took me a while to figure it out but it hit me this week why.....

well...why?


in time the truth will come out .....
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Reply #47 posted 05/01/04 11:07pm

funkm0nk

Anxiety said:

funkm0nk said:

to quote a source "the mods hate orgers" whatever that means


Not true. Not true at all.


fyi: hate was used loosely. duly note it. (even tho it was the word my source used!)

my intent was they read the npg forum here. being a moderator here u know this.
also, u frequent berlin. where they hang out at...so dont tell me what is true and what isnt, i know.
[This message was edited Sat May 1 23:11:19 2004 by funkm0nk]
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Reply #48 posted 05/02/04 4:27am

wyld1

katt said:

funkm0nk said:

to quote a source "the mods hate orgers" whatever that means
so if u post bad stuff here it gets back to them and they will take that
into account b4 u r banned from npgmc chat

if members would stop feeding the $25 entrance jar, maybe the practices would b more fair.

And if this was true then they hate themselfs as they onced belonged to the org and many still visit ....hey where do think they get the info from then. (don’t u think hate is a very strong word shake )

Say hello to the mods everyone wave giggle

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[This message was edited Sat May 1 12:13:52 2004 by katt]


Hi Katt, haven't seen a post from you in a while. What's crackin'?
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Reply #49 posted 05/02/04 5:27am

dantes731

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Sorry you got booted.
Not sure what you did to get it, but it's been my experience that most of the people in The Club are really, really nice.
I'm not a logged-in addict, but if you're nice to them, they're nice back.
Peace on ya.
(I like your lyrics/prose, by the way.)
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Reply #50 posted 05/02/04 7:09am

Anxiety

funkm0nk said:

fyi: hate was used loosely. duly note it. (even tho it was the word my source used!)

my intent was they read the npg forum here. being a moderator here u know this.
also, u frequent berlin. where they hang out at...so dont tell me what is true and what isnt, i know.



Yes, I know the PPs read the forums here. And guess what - I know some of some Org moderators who read the NPGMC forums! lol I always feel welcome over there and I hope they feel welcome here. Sometimes I don't like what people say about the Org on that site, and I'm sure sometimes the PPs get an eyeful from what folks have to say on this forum - but them's the breaks.

And what does going to Berlin have to do with anything? I can guess what you're implying, but unfortunately the link you're trying to make has about as much relevance as a box of fish at a perfume convention.

Maybe you're not as close to "the truth" as you'd like to think? neutral
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Reply #51 posted 05/02/04 7:13am

preciosa863

theblueangel said:

The conflict arises when Prince on the one hand doesn't want to have his private life exposed to public scrutiny but on the other hand very much encourages the spreading of his private views and beliefs through the NPGMC.


but NPGMC is his site.....He can control what happens there vs the public.
u & me, we got mad chemisty
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Reply #52 posted 05/02/04 7:20am

preciosa863

Anxiety said:

funkm0nk said:

fyi: hate was used loosely. duly note it. (even tho it was the word my source used!)

my intent was they read the npg forum here. being a moderator here u know this.
also, u frequent berlin. where they hang out at...so dont tell me what is true and what isnt, i know.



Yes, I know the PPs read the forums here. And guess what - I know some of some Org moderators who read the NPGMC forums! lol I always feel welcome over there and I hope they feel welcome here. Sometimes I don't like what people say about the Org on that site, and I'm sure sometimes the PPs get an eyeful from what folks have to say on this forum - but them's the breaks.

And what does going to Berlin have to do with anything? I can guess what you're implying, but unfortunately the link you're trying to make has about as much relevance as a box of fish at a perfume convention.

Maybe you're not as close to "the truth" as you'd like to think? neutral


Thank you Anxiety....I am very pleased that you are a mod. You are very fair and I love that you are not swayed in either direction
hug
u & me, we got mad chemisty
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Reply #53 posted 05/02/04 12:34pm

SENSHY

kdowney said:

SENSHY said:


well...why?


in time the truth will come out .....

OY VEY rolleyes

see how you reciprocate what you detest?
Oh my, oh my.
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Reply #54 posted 05/02/04 2:51pm

SensualMelody

Anxiety said:

funkm0nk said:

fyi: hate was used loosely. duly note it. (even tho it was the word my source used!)

my intent was they read the npg forum here. being a moderator here u know this.
also, u frequent berlin. where they hang out at...so dont tell me what is true and what isnt, i know.



Yes, I know the PPs read the forums here. And guess what - I know some of some Org moderators who read the NPGMC forums! lol I always feel welcome over there and I hope they feel welcome here. Sometimes I don't like what people say about the Org on that site, and I'm sure sometimes the PPs get an eyeful from what folks have to say on this forum - but them's the breaks.

And what does going to Berlin have to do with anything? I can guess what you're implying, but unfortunately the link you're trying to make has about as much relevance as a box of fish at a perfume convention.

Maybe you're not as close to "the truth" as you'd like to think? neutral


I too admire your moderating...and I am not booty-kissing.
Because of you I make this post.
First, there is no special room for JWs. If there were, I would know it, as I am first and foremost a JW for many many years.
Second, there is no special music for JWs. Prince was at an outing...played something...some got a hold of it.
It is copyrighted material...just personal stuff...never should have been circulated...not at all.
Song nor music belong to Prince.
Third...we have always known that PPs are also members and sometimes use their member names and even chat.
So anyone who did things they shouldn't have had lots of time to establish a pattern of behaviour.
I will admit, as someone said, not many JWs hit the chat anymore...but for other reasons than having a special place...
I don't go because of the frivolous childish behaviour that goes on so much...
It's ok if that is what they wanna do...but it's just not me.
I went in today, and immediately the room started saying things directed at me...like...faker, people who pretend...I simply ignored it. So childish.
Even here I very seldom frequent GD, and I never go in chat....unless someone pms me and asks me to come in there...and that might have happened once this year.
Think what you want...but facts have just been stated.

Fact 1...there is no special room for Jehovah's Witnesses
Fact2...There is no special Prince music for Jehovah's Witnesses.

heart
Melody

edited for the record...I have no idea what went on in chat regarding KD...she and I always got along.


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[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:53:08 2004 by SensualMelody]
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Reply #55 posted 05/02/04 7:00pm

katt

SensualMelody said:

Anxiety said:




Yes, I know the PPs read the forums here. And guess what - I know some of some Org moderators who read the NPGMC forums! lol I always feel welcome over there and I hope they feel welcome here. Sometimes I don't like what people say about the Org on that site, and I'm sure sometimes the PPs get an eyeful from what folks have to say on this forum - but them's the breaks.

And what does going to Berlin have to do with anything? I can guess what you're implying, but unfortunately the link you're trying to make has about as much relevance as a box of fish at a perfume convention.

Maybe you're not as close to "the truth" as you'd like to think? neutral


I too admire your moderating...and I am not booty-kissing.
Because of you I make this post.
First, there is no special room for JWs. If there were, I would know it, as I am first and foremost a JW for many many years.
Second, there is no special music for JWs. Prince was at an outing...played something...some got a hold of it.
It is copyrighted material...just personal stuff...never should have been circulated...not at all.
Song nor music belong to Prince.
Third...we have always known that PPs are also members and sometimes use their member names and even chat.
So anyone who did things they shouldn't have had lots of time to establish a pattern of behaviour.
I will admit, as someone said, not many JWs hit the chat anymore...but for other reasons than having a special place...
I don't go because of the frivolous childish behaviour that goes on so much...
It's ok if that is what they wanna do...but it's just not me.
I went in today, and immediately the room started saying things directed at me...like...faker, people who pretend...I simply ignored it. So childish.
Even here I very seldom frequent GD, and I never go in chat....unless someone pms me and asks me to come in there...and that might have happened once this year.
Think what you want...but facts have just been stated.

Fact 1...there is no special room for Jehovah's Witnesses
Fact2...There is no special Prince music for Jehovah's Witnesses.

heart
Melody

edited for the record...I have no idea what went on in chat regarding KD...she and I always got along.


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[This message was edited Sun May 2 14:53:08 2004 by SensualMelody]

Sensual this material was handed out by and between certain Jehovah witnesses also a club member placed a post (thread) in the clubs site in the knowledge forum and then deleted by the author. Maybe the post is still there.... [edited]: i done a search but to many to go through[end edit]

I am no longer going to keep quiet about this cause i wish to get to the bottom off it all. I was actually sent it and told it was just for certain peoples ears, i listened then placed into recycle bin. I can always pull it out of the recycle bin as it’s on my lap top and i have not deleted this month. I am curious now as far as i know a song/hymns can not be copyrighted material just like the lords (Jehovah's) prayer, i will double check on this in the morning with my lawyers. Are you implying what they told me and others to be lies? Because i shall not take kindly to this.

Who knows what is going down, not all are privy to the information unless you’re a moderator or an employee.

I mean no disrespect sensual but the way you have written your post it is coming across to me that you know all and all others are liars and ..... confuse someone’s playing games shake

Peace

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[This message was edited Sun May 2 20:31:45 2004 by katt]
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Reply #56 posted 05/03/04 6:06am

Abrazo

katt said:

I am curious now as far as i know a song/hymns can not be copyrighted material just like the lords (Jehovah's) prayer, i will double check on this in the morning with my lawyers.

If prince made a sound recording of an old hymne or used some Bible texts the sound recording is copyrighted (automatically by law), but the underlying hymne or Bible text is not.

As for the allegations of alienating certain members, that is nothing new to me. Prince, nor the club, in recent years, have shown that they truly follow the norms and values they claim to hold dear.
You are not my "friend" because you threaten my security.
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Reply #57 posted 05/03/04 6:20am

SensualMelody

katt said:

SensualMelody said:




Fact 1...there is no special room for Jehovah's Witnesses
Fact2...There is no special Prince music for Jehovah's Witnesses.

heart
Melody

edited for the record...I have no idea what went on in chat regarding KD...she and I always got along.


Sensual this material was handed out by and between certain Jehovah witnesses also a club member placed a post (thread) in the clubs site in the knowledge forum and then deleted by the author. Maybe the post is still there.... [edited]: i done a search but to many to go through[end edit]

I am no longer going to keep quiet about this cause i wish to get to the bottom off it all. I was actually sent it and told it was just for certain peoples ears, i listened then placed into recycle bin. I can always pull it out of the recycle bin as it’s on my lap top and i have not deleted this month. I am curious now as far as i know a song/hymns can not be copyrighted material just like the lords (Jehovah's) prayer, i will double check on this in the morning with my lawyers. Are you implying what they told me and others to be lies? Because i shall not take kindly to this.

Who knows what is going down, not all are privy to the information unless you’re a moderator or an employee.

I mean no disrespect sensual but the way you have written your post it is coming across to me that you know all and all others are liars and ..... confuse someone’s playing games shake

Peace

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[This message was edited Sun May 2 20:31:45 2004 by katt]

I do not know ALL Katt, but the little I know...I do know.
U don't have to check with any lawyers to find out if our music is copyrighted.
The Lord's prayer did not originate with JWs.....so of course it is not private property.
But look inside your songbook and you will see:
Copyright, 1984, by Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennslyvania.
Also, dear sister, I call no one a liar. People said they heard "rumors". None of the
posters said they knew anything for a fact....so I supplied the facts.
Why do people get upset when someone supplies information?
It does not mean I think I know everything...but everybody knows something.
I just happen to know the 2 things I mentioned.
I mean no disrespect to you either, as I love you dearly.
And I also have the "song" on my computer....along with a few I sang myself.
When friends tell you it's for you only, they are trying to protect everyone involved from what could become a pure mess...if that song shows up for sale on ebay...and U know that could happen.
Someone shared it with you, no doubt to encourage you...that our brother played one of our favorite Kingdom Melodies. I know it encouraged me. But it's a Kingdom song...not a commercial endeavor.
heart
Melody



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[This message was edited Mon May 3 6:30:03 2004 by SensualMelody]
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Reply #58 posted 05/03/04 6:27am

SensualMelody

Abrazo said:

katt said:

I am curious now as far as i know a song/hymns can not be copyrighted material just like the lords (Jehovah's) prayer, i will double check on this in the morning with my lawyers.

If prince made a sound recording of an old hymne or used some Bible texts the sound recording is copyrighted (automatically by law), but the underlying hymne or Bible text is not.

As for the allegations of alienating certain members, that is nothing new to me. Prince, nor the club, in recent years, have shown that they truly follow the norms and values they claim to hold dear.

Hello Abrazo.
How are you sweetie?
All the hymns in our songbook are written and composed by JWs.
They are contibuted. They are not standard hymns that you would find in any other songbook.
No names are mentiones as to honor the contributor.
Many times we get together and sometimes we sing kingdom songs or musicians may play them. Larry Graham has done similarly...as well as lesser known musicians.
But the compositions belong to the WT Bible and Tract Society.
It's good to hear from you.
hug
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Reply #59 posted 05/03/04 6:40am

SensualMelody

These are the lyrics to the song that was played. (he did not sing them).
Katt, correct me if I am wrong and you have some other recording.

Life Without End--- at Last!

Can you see with your mind's eye, People dwelling together?
Sorrow has passed. Peace at last! Life without tears or pain.

(sing out with joy of heart. You, too, can have a part.
Live for the day when you'll say: "Life without end at last!")

Man and beast, living in peace, Cause no harm to each other.
Food will be there. All will share. In what our God provides.

(chorus)

In those days old will grow young, Flesh revived as in childhood.
Troubles are gone, from now on No need to weep or fear.

(chorus)

Paradise all will enjoy As they sing to God's glory.
Yes everyday we will say To God, our Maker, "Thanks!".

(chorus)

From Sing Praises to Jehovah...copyright, 1984, by Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania


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