saafiir said:

it does indeed.

Zannaloaf said:

Yes it does !!!!

HERE IT IS loooool

The Rebels

Before Prince formed The Time, he considered using his backing band as a side-project called The Rebels. The 1979 project was a group effort, with songs being written and sung by the various members. Andre Cymone and Dez Dickerson each contributed material and a few numbers were sung by Gayle Chapman. Instead of making something that sounded similar to his R&B solo output, Prince wanted go into more rock elements of songs such like "I'm Yours" and "Bambi". The project was eventually shelved feeling that the whole thing sounded too generic,[1] but two of the songs composed by Prince were re-recorded and released much later: "If I Love U 2 Night" by Mica Paris (and later by Prince's wife-to-be Mayte Garcia) and "U" by Paula Abdul. The original Prince guide vocal for "If I Love U 2 Nite" appeared by mistake on the rare Mica Paris Stand for Love EP, of which only a handful exist.
[edit] The Second Coming

The Second Coming was planned to be a documentary film and live album from Prince's Controversy tour in 1981. The tour was professionally filmed but the project was abandoned, likely due to Prince's schedule producing The Time and Vanity 6. The title comes from a prerecorded a cappella intro to the tour, immediately preceding the song "Uptown".
[edit] The Flesh

The Flesh was a project of live jam sessions recorded in late 1985 to early 1986. The project was abandoned when Prince began work on Parade although a small instrumental portion of a track called "Junk Music" made it into the film Under the Cherry Moon. A circulating outtake from these sessions is titled "U Got 2 Shake Something".
[edit] Dream Factory

Dream Factory was a single, then double LP project recorded with The Revolution from 1986. Unlike the three previous Revolution albums, the entire band was invited into the studio and contributed to most of the original tracks. Many of the tracks would later be incorporated into Crystal Ball (see below) or be released through other outlets over the years.
[edit] Camille

Camille is an unreleased album by Prince, recorded in 1986. The album was planned to consist of 8 tracks recorded by the singer in a funky, sped up vocal. The album was to be released under the name Camille (who would not be pictured on the cover) and not as a Prince album. Much of the music has been released officially in some form or another, however, one song, "Rebirth of the Flesh" remains unreleased in its original form. In 2001, a live rehearsal of "Rebirth of the Flesh" recorded with the Sign "☮" the Times band was released on Prince's Web site. This version, however, had profanity edited from the lyrics. The album was canceled weeks prior to its release in favor of the more ambitious Sign "☮" the Times album. The concept itself was also abandoned and most of the tracks were incorporated into Crystal Ball, which evolved into Sign "☮" the Times.

1. "Rebirth of the Flesh": Prince recorded this song at Sunset Sound on October 28, 1986, on the same day as "Rockhard in a Funky Place". When the Camille album was shelved, the song was slated for inclusion on Prince's next album project, Crystal Ball. It was going to be the opening track segueing into "Play in the Sunshine". The NPG Music Club made a 1988 Lovesexy Tour rehearsal recording available in September 2001, which means that all the Camille tracks have now been officially released, although the original studio version remains unofficially released on bootlegs.
2. "Housequake"
3. "Strange Relationship"
4. "Feel U Up": This outtake was recorded toward the end of 1981 and was taped in sequence with "Irresistible Bitch". Both songs were re-recorded later. "Feel U Up" was re-recorded in 1986 and the lyrics of both recordings are very similar. The track was finally released in 1989 as the B-side of "Partyman".
5. "Shockadelica": Originally written (unsolicited) by Prince in response to Jesse Johnson's then-forthcoming album titled Shockadelica (1986) because that album had no song to match/compliment what Prince felt was such a great album title. "Shockadelica" was later included as a B-side of "If I Was Your Girlfriend".
6. "Good Love": Released on the Bright Lights, Big City film soundtrack in 1988.
7. "If I Was Your Girlfriend"
8. "Rockhard in a Funky Place": Also included on The Black Album (1987) project.

There are other songs that were recorded using the Camille vocal that were made after the Camille project was abandoned, including "Scarlet Pussy", which was released as the B-side of the 1988 single "I Wish U Heaven" featuring a black label with the artist Camille credited in deep peach. Also, "U Got the Look", which appeared on Sign "☮" the Times and was also released as a single. The video taken from the film Sign "☮" the Times helped sales of the single tremendously. (The music video also helped to dispel erroneous reports that the person featured on the previous single Sign "☮" the Times was Prince in drag. The video of "U Got the Look" introduced viewers to the newest member of Prince's band, Cat Glover, who was unmistakably the woman featured on the aforementioned single cover.)
[edit] Madhouse: 24

Prince worked on a third Madhouse album in 1987–1988 that was never released. Some of the tracks were altered and reused on Eric Leeds's Times Squared album released in 1991. Interestingly, a totally different version of 24 was recorded with members of The New Power Generation and Eric Leeds in 1993, but this also was not released, with the exception of the track "17" of the 1-800-NEW-FUNK compilation album. Some of the tracks were on the rare "Sampler Experience" cassette.
[edit] Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic

The original Rave Unto the Joy Fantastic album was shelved when Prince started working on the Batman soundtrack in late 1988. The album shared some tracks with Graffiti Bridge and the title track was finally released in 1999 on a new album of the same name.
[edit] The Tora Tora Experience

At the height of his troubles with Warner Bros. Records in 1994, Prince contributed under the moniker Tora Tora on the NPG's Exodus album. Happy with this pseudonym, a full album was recorded, but it remains unreleased. Very little is known about this project, but it was mentioned on the 1995 "Sampler Experience" cassette by the tracks "(Lemme See Your Body) Get Loose!" a remix of "Loose!" from Prince's 1994 Come album.
[edit] The Undertaker

This recording was made in a continuous single live-in-the-studio pass in collaboration with NPG drummer Michael Bland and bassist Sonny T. Prince originally intended to give this live CD away free with 1,000 copies of Guitar Player magazine in 1994 (uploading an original The Undertaker CD to iTunes, shows the year 1995 as the year the CD was "released"), but he was reportedly barred by Warner Bros. from doing so. Copies were leaked and bootlegged. The songs were guitar-heavy versions of rock and blues numbers, including a cover of The Rolling Stones' "Honky Tonk Women" and new recording of "Bambi" (originally from 1979's Prince). The title track was a cover of a song previously given to Mavis Staples, while "The Ride", "Zannalee", and "Dolphin" would all be re-recorded future releases. A video recording of the performance is in circulation with small edits throughout the performance and "Dolphin" replaced by the official video of the song from The Gold Experience.

Track listing

1. "The Ride" – 10:54
2. "Poor Goo" – 4:26
3. "Honky Tonk Women" – 3:00
4. "Bambi" – 4:49
5. "The Undertaker" – 9:50
6. "Dolphin" – 3:40

[edit] The Dawn

The Dawn was to be the first Prince album after Emancipation, but it was shelved in 1997. An acoustic version of the title track can be found on The Truth. Prince had often thought of releasing an album called 'The Dawn' at many points during his career. The earliest known incarnation of 'The Dawn' was from 1986, and seems to have been some kind of musical (an idea that eventually resurfaced as 'Graffiti Bridge'). Another incarnation of 'The Dawn' was assembled around 1994, soon after Prince changed his stage name to an unpronounceable symbol. This time the content was made from tracks that would later surface on Come and The Gold Experience. The last known incarnation of the album was assembled in 1997, this time it came very close to release, and was even advertised on the back of the free cassette single of 'The Holy River' given away at 'Borders' stores in 1997.[2]
[edit] Roadhouse Garden

In 1998, Prince announced a comeback album of Prince & The Revolution that consisted of unreleased songs. It was most likely never released because of a dispute with the original Revolution members. One of the mentioned songs, "Splash" was released on Prince's website. According to former Revolution keyboardist Dr. Fink, Prince asked for Wendy and Lisa's input on the album, but he didn't offer any compensation, so they declined his offer. Later, when people asked about the Roadhouse Garden album, his reply was "Ask Wendy and Lisa."[3]
[edit] Newfunk sampling CD series

A 7-CD set of Prince samples for producers and DJs was announced in 1999 for a onetime fee of $700. It remains unreleased.[4]
[edit] Crystal Ball
[edit] Album
Main article: Crystal Ball (unreleased album)

(not to be confused with Crystal Ball (album set))

Crystal Ball was a 3-LP set to be released in 1987, The set was to consist of various tracks from 1985–1986. Although several Dream Factory tracks were incorporated, this set was to be marketed as a solo album by Prince. Warner Bros. Records balked at the album's length so Prince begrudgingly trimmed it to the 2-LP Sign “☮” the Times, which many still consider to be his best album. The album is notable for two reasons; it was the last studio album to be recorded with The Revolution and the events said to have surrounded its recording led to the resignation of both Wendy & Lisa, effectively dissolving Prince's band until the creation of the New Power Generation.
[edit] Sequel

This was a follow up to the 1998 outtake album Crystal Ball. Fans who attended Prince's Paisley Park Studios during June 2000 were given the opportunity to vote for their favorite outtakes out of a list of 23 and 17 were selected. For unknown reasons it was never produced.

The tracks included the following:

* "3 Nigs Watchin' a Kung Fu Movie"
* "Adonis & Bathsheba"
* "American Jam"
* "Come Electra Tuesday" (not selected)
* "Electric Intercourse"
* "Everybody Wants What They Don't Got"
* "Evolsidog"
* "Eye Wonder"
* "Girl" (not selected)
* "Girl o' My Dreams"
* "Gotta Stop (Messin' About)" (not selected)
* "If It'll Make U Happy" (not selected)
* "Katrina's Paper Dolls"
* "Kiss" (Unreleased Xtended Version)
* "Love & Sex"
* "Lust U Always"
* "Others Here with Us"
* "She's Just a Baby" (not selected)
* "Strange Way of Saying Eye Love U"
* "Turn It Up"
* "U're All Eye Want"
* "Xtra Lovable"

[edit] DVD

Another little-known project that was due to be released at the same time as Crystal Ball II was an accompanying Crystal Ball DVD. This was to contain music videos made for tracks off both volumes of the Crystal Ball albums.
[edit] The Hot X-perience

In 2000, a vinyl maxi single was announced. It would contain new club remixes of "Hot Wit U" featuring Eve.

On July 19, 2000, DJ Wolf played some unreleased mixes, likely from The Hot X-perience, at a club known as The Front in Minneapolis, Minnesota:

* "Hot Wit You" (Nasty Girl Remix)
* "Hot Wit You" (Rap remix)
* "Underneath the Cream"
* "So Far, So Pleased" (a club-dance remix—mixed with portions of "Rave un2 the Joy Fantastic")
* "Hot Wit You" (a club-dance remix)

"Underneath the Cream" was later released on Prince's website and an edit of the Nasty Girl Remix was released on the remix album Rave In2 the Joy Fantastic.
[edit] High

In 2000 High was fully complete and ready to release in the summer of 2000, but the album was never released. A video was recorded for the song "U Make My Sun Shine", a duet with Angie Stone, and it was also released as a single. Most songs were distributed via his NPG Music Club. Prince released The Rainbow Children instead.[5]
[edit] NPG: Peace

During the "Hit and Run Tour" in 2001, an NPG single from what was billed as the forthcoming new NPG album, 'Peace' was sold. It featured the title track, "Peace" coupled with "2045: Radical Man". The album remains unreleased, while "2045: Radical Man" was given to Spike Lee for his Bamboozled soundtrack. Instead, "Peace" and "2045: Radical Man" were later released on the internet-only release of The Slaughterhouse.
[edit] Untitled Kevin Smith-directed documentary

In the summer of 2001, actor-director Kevin Smith contacted Prince to gain permission to use "The Most Beautiful Girl in the World" for a scene in his movie Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back. Although he was denied permission, he agreed to film a documentary of reactions, questions and answers during one of Prince's fan weeks at his recording studios, Paisley Park. Most of the footage comes from five sessions of Prince and Smith discussing music with fans. The footage still resides in Prince's vault, while some was used to promote The Rainbow Children album and as background video at some of his live concerts.

According to An Evening with Kevin Smith 2: Evening Harder, Prince was intending to edit the film into a promotional movie for Jehovah's Witnesses.
[edit] Madrid 2 Chicago

A new album was announced for 2001. The title track and "Breathe" were distributed via the NPG Music Club, but the full album remains unreleased.
[edit] Last December

Announced in the "One Nite Alone..." tour book in March 2002, the title is a track from The Rainbow Children. The album has never materialized.[6]
[edit] The Chocolate Invasion

In 2003 it was announced that the members-only tracks from the first years of the NPG Music Club would be released in a 7-CD boxed set containing:

* C-Note
* Xpectation
* One Nite Alone... - Solo Piano & Voice
* The Chocolate Invasion - Trax from NPGMC Volume 1
* The Slaughterhouse - Trax from NPGMC Volume 2
* "The Glam Slam Club Mix"
* "The War"

In November 2003, a problem with manufacturing was reported, and the project was put on hold. The only albums that have become available on CD in limited editions before were "The War", available through 1-800-NEW-FUNK in 1998 and One Nite Alone..., sent to NPG Music Club members in 2002 as part of the annual subscription. Furthermore, all albums have been made available for download (in some cases with tracks varying very slightly) via the NPG Music Club at various stages. An excerpt of "The Glam Slam Club Mix" was possibly part of NPG Ahdio Show #11 and available as a free download in December 2001, C-Note and Xpectation were free downloads for members in January 2003 and became available in the NPG Music Club store in 2004, together with One Nite Alone..., The Chocolate Invasion and The Slaughterhouse.
[edit] 3121 film

Near the end of 2005, Prince had written and produced for the singer Liza Hernandez (also known as Liza Lena) and, according to the Panamanian news site Prensa.com, "Has maintained a good friendship since they filmed together the film 31-21," and was, according to the site, supposed to be released in April 2006. There are references to the film on a few Prince forums, which, unfortunately for the sake of authenticity, only refer back to quotes from unofficial, unknown, or expired sources. There are no references to the film found on either Prince's official newsletter 3121.com or in the Internet Movie Database. The cover of the 3121 CD reads '3121 - The Music', further fuelling speculation of a 3121 movie.

saafiir said:

The hell it doesn't.

saafiir said:

Thank you for that music tour through the land of Prince.

I knew of some of those projects already, but it's all fascinating.

I often wonder to what magnitude the purple one's career may have risen had he been allowed to release the original Crystal Ball...or even if he had allowed Black to be released instead of Lovesexy.

It's all mere speculation of course, but I would dare say that if Black had exploded onto the scene, Graffiti Bridge would not have occurred, then he may have skipped the whole ludicrous "NPG/Tony M" phase...maybe skipped the whole Mayte period and the current JW thing...and who knows where his music would be today???

carlcranshaw said:

PurpleJedi said:

Yeah who knows... ?

Very good point here...

I love prince and always will but prince got to stop having a site then walking away from it, because he does still have alot of fans that really care for him and even me want more from prince i miss him touring etc. unless he is unable to keep touring or have a site for the fan to enjoy,and be able to buy prince tshirts and other item,so prince please make a come back that would be a blessing.luv prince.plus i feel alot of people spent alot of money on this site lotusflow3r.

Jacytoon said:

This is the same story over and over again...
People should learn to understand that Prince can´t be compared to other artists like Nine Inch Nails, U2, Metallica,Radiohead and so on.
If u like their site so much, join them and have fun.
But i doubt that we will ever see a Prince internet site with access
to so much music and stuff like from the artists mentioned above.
Live with it or leave it. Simple as.
[Edited 4/17/10 15:08pm]

Philly76 said:

totally agree..(here here!!!!!) as the brits say N the house of commons.....sick!!!!

WOLFY

cream72 said:

And you think that will happen on a massive scale do you? How many file sharers in the UK? 6 million is the estimate. The government wants to see a decrease in illegal file sharing of 75%. Good on them. Although how the fuck they hope to differentiate between legal and illegal activity or shared connections is anybody's guess. And there is the other problem they face in the shape of ip-blockers which every illegal file sharer should be using.

Put simply it won't happen in they way you imagine. Have you put thought into it at all I wonder?

chookalana said:

Look at the percentage that Prince takes in from each release compared to what artists who use Amazon and iTunes get and then see who the idiot is.

Brofie said:

Why would anyone start looking at the FACTS now?

Philly76 said:

You mean TAKE it or leave it. I think leaving is what most people are doing as far as his internet presence. Sites without new content turn even fans off.

I love Prince and his talent but not the way he does business with his fans. I have been a fan since the 80's. This is the second time I have been let down by his websites. I'm not joining another, even if it is the only way for me to get his music. I just wont get it until he decides to put it on Target's store shelves. His concerts are very expensive to attend and usually worth it but have been disappointed one too many times by his internet BS. There is no excuse for it.

I wish he would just play his music and give it to the world just as he has said he wants to do without all the games and tricks. It's just a mind F..K on his fans.

If it's about the music, then let it be just the music.

I still love his talent and live for the music, although I do prefer the stuff of the 80's and early 90's. His music has just gotten way out there, bring it in some. He's so talented, that he can do it and still make it his own. Go back to your roots Prince and get in touch with what made you-you and so huge.

I do hope he gives us at least one more world tour..limited if necessary so long as he hits LA in a large arena.

Lotus2unfld said:

At this point you're sounding like a parrot that's been trained to say many things but has no clue what any of it means.

Clay is a web developer.

What Prince needed was a management team and a serviced help desk, not a marketing firm--any fool with that much money can contract those services. Have you ever read the accounts of Prince's "instructions" which he gives to his employees/musicians? If Clay misinterpreted anything, I would imagine fault lies with Prince.---Prince isn't his only client, but Prince **IS** the client that fucked up.


When's the last time anybody ever dialed the marketing department at JPMorgan Chase or Verizon demanding a grievance with your card membership or account be resolved?

Prince fucked up.

re: "The Vault" There are at least 500 unreleased songs worthy of being remastered and released. AT LEAST. I know this...umm... because I do. There's at least another couple hundred of suspect and/or questionable value. And that's just studio and rehearsal stuff. Not even touching live recordings. So yeah, call it whatever you want, but there is definitely a load of officially unreleased Prince material.

Cerebus said:

Did U also care to think that just maybe. Prince is saving all of the things in "The Vault" to release after he leaves this earth...Did U EVER think of that?

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Of course I have. But did you ever think about how silly the way you phrased it is? If Prince has left this earth he won't be the one releasing the material. At best his estate would be responsible (whomever that may entail), and he could make requests before he passes that they do no such thing. At worst a bunch of lawyers, former band members and record label execs will produce gobs of conflicting material and eventually end up in court. Some day we would end up with Corp or LLC - or whatever it's called then - like Jimi, Nirvana and Michael Jackson. Whoever is in charge of that organization then proceeds to bring in "the hot new producer" to remix tracks, people do guest duets and drop verses and just... ugh.

Also, if the class had really been paying attention they would know that Prince has commented on all this numerous times. He doesn't care and/or see the value of it. I would say that was cool if it wasn't something that was so important to his fans, as well as the history of modern music. We understand he's not comfortable with the content of some of the material. Cool, don't release those tracks. We understand that he doesn't want to relive his past. Cool, pay somebody to catalog, archive and preserve the tracks, and then present him with possibly release options. All he would have to do is say yes or no.

(Added after proofreading) But the material really needs to be professionally cataloged, restored when necessary and preserved. Prince IS important to modern music and will be for a very long time. It would be a shame if, as has been implied, there are stacks and shelves of master tapes wasting away to a point where they could be beyond repair.

The thing that makes the least sense to me is that it's continuing bad business practices. Releasing one or two archive disc and/or live discs in between studio albums would only add to the excitement for new material, not take away from it. He could do something pioneering and on a website considering the amount of material he has. He could, STILL, take control of the entire situation by taking back all the material that has been bootlegged over the years, remastering it and releasing it independently (something he CLAIMS to be, but isn't at all). He would have a near endless revenue source that would allow him to do, basically, whatever he wants artistically. Shoot, he could give it all to charity, build churches, whatever! Just do something with it. But instead he's the usual pigheaded, stubborn Prince. On a mission to try and prove that he can do whatever he wants his way. The problem there is he actually proved that in, like, 1983.

Umm... just my two cents...*cough*

Cerebus said:

U really don't know what Prince plans on doing with his Vault material. Prince is not stupid he knows that his fans want his vault material remastered and released.
In fact I had a conversation with someone that worked very closely with him for a few years. There is a reason why Prince records so much and makes so many videos and then put them all in the vault for no one else to hear or see...

Ooooooh. You're one of those. Never mind.

Cerebus said:

see my sig.

PurpleLove7 said:

of course it did
when Prince is through with you
he's through
i'd say 9 out of 10 people who'vever worked with the artist know that

peace

"all the bridges that you burn... someday come back to haunt you" (tracy chapman)
[Edited 5/9/10 17:17pm]

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

And not get paid for them? Are you f***** crazy?

$$$$$>>>>>prince...

Rorywan said:

yeh i have to agree with that.