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Bohemian67 said: And "Mr of the Heavens," as your Dutch name translates, where were you at NY? On Museumplein in Amsterdam, dancing the MJ moves, heralding in 2010 by 20000 new year celebraters, all in honour of the "King of Pop?" No guess you weren't there.
Bart is using a pseudonym here. If you still think you can translate his username or know what his reasons were to choose that username, ask him and be surprised. Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. | |
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Bohemian67 said: BartVanHemelen said: MJ never was the king. He might have forced MTV to call him that, but he never was the king. That's where you're silly Bart. Back it up with facts. Elizbeth Taylor once called him the King of Pop during an MTV award show and it stuck. So blame Liz & the millions that agreed & used it, not MJ. And "Mr of the Heavens," as your Dutch name translates, where were you at NY? On Museumplein in Amsterdam, dancing the MJ moves, heralding in 2010 by 20000 new year celebraters, all in honour of the "King of Pop?" No guess you weren't there.
Anyway your opinion doesn't interest me. And that's only because you state nonsense such as "MJ forced MTV to call him that.  "He may have been called that by Elizabeth Taylor, but at one point he most definitely was paying MTV to call him that. About the time he floated a statue of himself down the river Thames if I remember correctly. But really this has F-all to do with MJ. Or how he handled business and his fans. Two different cases. Two different people. As it stands just give me my $77 back quickly, as in yesterday, and I shut-up. Otherwise, threads like this will contine. It is up to the idiot software team (i.e Malzone etc) to sort this out. Otherwise, I'll make noise until that $77 is returned to my account, along with, I hope, everybody elses. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
I wonder how Authorize.Net likes that accusation. Hey, they're on Twitter: @AuthorizeNET and they seem to be replying to people tweeting them -- how about we all go ask them about this? Do they like being thrown under the bus by @Anthony_Malzone ? Perhaps we should bombard this wanker Malzone with emails. I hope he becomes a bloody joke in the industry. | |
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As for those complaining about the 'negativity' here, I am just waiting for my $77 to be returned that was wrongfully deducted from my account.
What do you expect? That there will be glorious praise at such a horrific mistake? I'm not suggesting Prince was directly involved, but he did hire the wrong people. Regardless, I'm $77 lighter with no refund to my account. It was taken out quickly enough ... . Funk is its own reward. | |
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BartVanHemelen said: Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
I wonder how Authorize.Net likes that accusation. Hey, they're on Twitter: @AuthorizeNET and they seem to be replying to people tweeting them -- how about we all go ask them about this? Do they like being thrown under the bus by @Anthony_Malzone ? Ooohhh... I love a good Twitter fight.  If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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puppybutt said: So... When will we start seeing refunds? Has anyone gotten theirs yet?
I got my money back yesterday.I didn't even notice I had been charged, because the bank account I opened my LOtUSFLOW3R membership on has been empty since December because I lost my job... But sure enough, I logged into it (my defunct bank account, that is) a few minutes ago and I am -$77.00 Lovely. | |
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Bohemian67 said: BartVanHemelen said: MJ never was the king. He might have forced MTV to call him that, but he never was the king. That's where you're silly Bart. Back it up with facts. Elizbeth Taylor once called him the King of Pop during an MTV award show and it stuck. http://www.ew.com/ew/arti...63,00.html More insidiously, a highly placed source at MTV says the network was obligated to refer to Jackson on air as the ''King of Pop'' in order to be allowed to show ''Black or White.'' An MTV spokeswoman denies that, but the phrase was part of MTV's ads for the video and was repeatedly used by its VJs. A source at Fox confirms that Jackson's people did request that Bart use the phrase ''King of Pop'' in the video and that the phrase also be used in the network's press releases; ''King of Pop'' also crops up in Fox's print ads for the video and in press releases by Jackson's publicists, Solters/Roskin/Friedman.
Let's see: either you believe that millions of people start repeating this ridiculous phrase after being indoctrinated via a publicity campaign forced upon the likes of MTV et al to get access to premium material -- or you believe that millions of people start repeating something Elizabeth frikking Taylor supposedly once said at an awards show. Bohemian67 said: And "Mr of the Heavens," as your Dutch name translates, where were you at NY? On Museumplein in Amsterdam, dancing the MJ moves, heralding in 2010 by 20000 new year celebraters, all in honour of the "King of Pop?" No guess you weren't there.
Anyway your opinion doesn't interest me. And that's only because you state nonsense such as "MJ forced MTV to call him that. "Oh look, yet another person who can't debunk the facts and then suddenly doesn't find it interesting to continue to debate. Have the balls to admit defeat. © Bart Van Hemelen
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Pretty please, with sugar on top, get this damn MJ bullshit OFF THIS THREAD. Studies have shown the ass crack of the average Prince fan to be abnormally large. This explains the ease and frequency of their panties bunching up in it. |
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moderator[Snip - Mars23] "Free URself, B the best that U can B, 3rd Apartment from the Sun, nothing left to fear" Prince Rogers Nelson - Forever in my Life - | |
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Who cares he's dead. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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Vendetta1 said: puppybutt said: So... When will we start seeing refunds? Has anyone gotten theirs yet?
I got my money back yesterday.I didn't even notice I had been charged, because the bank account I opened my LOtUSFLOW3R membership on has been empty since December because I lost my job... But sure enough, I logged into it (my defunct bank account, that is) a few minutes ago and I am -$77.00 Lovely. Well, I guess this as good a time as any to hit you up for a loan. Ognote sent. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
Dear LotusFlow3r.com members,
We were saddened to hear today that the earliest adopters of LotusFlow3r.com were charged $77 for a repeat subscription to the website. We did not expect this action to occur automatically as we had not set up a recurring billing script in our code. After getting on the phone with the payment gateway Authorize.net, we found that the subscriptions were being renewed on their end. We immediately discontinued the recurring billing for all further subscriptions and we will be refunding those who have been charged. We are very sorry for the inconvenience and are working quickly to refund anyone who was charged for a second year. Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part. Sincerely, LotusFlow3r development team ----- "Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part." It was good they put this message on but none of you hard heads will believe it because you think P is siting somewhere charging your credit cards.  | |
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laurarichardson said: Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
----- "Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part." It was good they put this message on but none of you hard heads will believe it because you think P is siting somewhere charging your credit cards. 
These people work for Prince. He should have made sure they did their jobs. | |
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TheVoid said: Vendetta1 said: Prince doing a response song for lil ol me?
StymieDelica IvylovaholenyoSymbol Ivy loves you but she don't trust you anymore...and she'll cut you.  vy league
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cborgman said: TheVoid said: StymieDelica IvylovaholenyoSymbol Ivy loves you but she don't trust you anymore...and she'll cut you. vy league
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Vendetta1 said: cborgman said: vy league
. [Edited 3/27/10 14:31pm] creeping vy
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Well, my pendng charge just went through. I'll file a fraudulant charge with my cc company. This should have been avoided. Prince should give us something for the trouble! He should have a website with free access for a year to repent for the shameful thing loserflow3r.com was all year. What a joke.
I am the biggest of the die-hards! Been around since '81, buy everything. HUGE collection. I'm not a fair weather fan by any stretch. How much I will follow Prince has just taken a huge hit... .finally. Prince, you win. You don't want me around, I'm gone. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: cream72 said: I didnt join Lotusflow3r cause money being tight and i feel for those who this has effected
 but i do beleive this was a mistake (A big mistake) that has made prince look foolish.
But Labelling prince has a thief is a bit over the top...shit happens i remember my mother in law cancelling her broadband with AOL to find out they had still been debiting her account for some months after resulting in them owing her £170 it took us 3 months to get that back for her my point is MISTAKES do happen  I'd wholeheartedly agree with you if this was the first time something like this has happened but unfortunately it's not. There is a well documented history of Prince screwing over his fans. At some point, somebody has to say ENOUGH! Wow Hatrina, you're on the roll. It's time to make you laugh, so I'm going to throw it at you. So Hatrina...even if Prince sent a personal "sorry" video to you or the fans, would you take him back? I mean you already said some of the lyrics in his song "No More Candy 4 U" was a poke at you, when he mentioned "All the Haterz on the internet" in that part of the lyrics. How 'bout if he sent you a vid with a song like this? Thought this vid was cute, found it on youtube.  
"I'm Sorry" Lyrics by the Delfonics: "I'm Sorry" My love I ran around on you Yes I broke your heart in two And I want the world to know I'm sorry (sorry) So if by chance you want to know If I really love you so All you have do to is come and ask me And never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you Now I hunger for your touch I never knew you meant so much I know that I have hurt you and I'm sorry (sorry) So darling take me back again And our love will never end Don't listen to the whole world talk about me Please never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you ----- (This is all in fun folks) [Edited 3/27/10 19:36pm] | |
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Vendetta1 said: laurarichardson said: ----- "Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part." It was good they put this message on but none of you hard heads will believe it because you think P is siting somewhere charging your credit cards.
These people work for Prince. He should have made sure they did their jobs. --- If you have ever supervised anyone you can only do so much hand holding. A mistake was made it is now being corrected move on with your life | |
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laurarichardson said: Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
----- "Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part." It was good they put this message on but none of you hard heads will believe it because you think P is siting somewhere charging your credit cards. If Prince took a bit more interest and care into his site this wouldn't of happened. Hes the boss so its his cock up and he needs to take full responsibility for it. FUNKNROLL!  "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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laurarichardson said: Vendetta1 said:
These people work for Prince. He should have made sure they did their jobs. --- If you have ever supervised anyone you can only do so much hand holding. A mistake was made it is now being corrected move on with your life 
I am a supervisor and was one previously and I get blamed for what my subordinates do and I take responsibility for it. | |
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Vendetta1 said: laurarichardson said: --- If you have ever supervised anyone you can only do so much hand holding. A mistake was made it is now being corrected move on with your life
I am a supervisor and was one previously and I get blamed for what my subordinates do and I take responsibility for it. Exactly. I'm a mananger and believe me if things are not running properly I get the blame even if its made by my assistants, I have to correct it immediately and esp before the problem gets out of hand. I can't just walk away from it then say I'm sorry it wasnt my fault FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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catpark said: Vendetta1 said: I have no idea how you figure people aren't moving on with their lives.
I am a supervisor and was one previously and I get blamed for what my subordinates do and I take responsibility for it. Exactly. I'm a mananger and believe me if things are not running properly I get the blame even if its made by my assistants, I have to correct it immediately and esp before the problem gets out of hand. I can't just walk away from it then say I'm sorry it wasnt my fault
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2elijah said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: I'd wholeheartedly agree with you if this was the first time something like this has happened but unfortunately it's not. There is a well documented history of Prince screwing over his fans. At some point, somebody has to say ENOUGH! Wow Hatrina, you're on the roll. It's time to make you laugh, so I'm going to throw it at you. So Hatrina...even if Prince sent a personal "sorry" video to you or the fans, would you take him back? I mean you already said some of the lyrics in his song "No More Candy 4 U" was a poke at you, when he mentioned "All the Haterz on the internet" in that part of the lyrics. How 'bout if he sent you a vid with a song like this? Thought this vid was cute, found it on youtube.
"I'm Sorry" Lyrics by the Delfonics: "I'm Sorry" My love I ran around on you Yes I broke your heart in two And I want the world to know I'm sorry (sorry) So if by chance you want to know If I really love you so All you have do to is come and ask me And never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you Now I hunger for your touch I never knew you meant so much I know that I have hurt you and I'm sorry (sorry) So darling take me back again And our love will never end Don't listen to the whole world talk about me Please never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you ----- (This is all in fun folks) [Edited 3/27/10 19:36pm] Cute video! It made me smile! You made me laugh! 
The answer though is hell no! After hearing P&G and C&E, I don't think a "new" song would help matters at all. 
He'd do better dusting the cobwebs off that vault and finding something so funky that it renders me speechless!
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Vendetta1 said: catpark said: Exactly. I'm a mananger and believe me if things are not running properly I get the blame even if its made by my assistants, I have to correct it immediately and esp before the problem gets out of hand. I can't just walk away from it then say I'm sorry it wasnt my fault
When my boss's employees fuck up, they don't bitch to us they go to him. What i dont get is what has Prince got to do all day that he couldnt't take a bit of time to sort out his site? Its not like hes got any children to look after he doesn't need to do a full-time job, hes not like he inundated with chores to do like the rest of us ordinary folks. He's a man of leisure. Just a thought  FUNKNROLL! "February 2014, wow". 'dre. | |
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I really hope I get my refund quick or else.
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laurarichardson said: Mars23 said: Thank you to orger Gav for passing this on and being a point of contact! Please be advised, no orger had any say in this and the message is merely being passed on.
----- "Please be aware that Prince himself had no hand in this and that the error was due to lack of thoroughness on our part." It was good they put this message on but none of you hard heads will believe it because you think P is siting somewhere charging your credit cards. Do you ask for the manager in a restaurant when u get a bad meal or do you abuse the waiting staff? Or maybe u don't go to restaurants. Kentucky BIG bucket?! "My God it's full of Stars"
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: 2elijah said: Wow Hatrina, you're on the roll. It's time to make you laugh, so I'm going to throw it at you. So Hatrina...even if Prince sent a personal "sorry" video to you or the fans, would you take him back? I mean you already said some of the lyrics in his song "No More Candy 4 U" was a poke at you, when he mentioned "All the Haterz on the internet" in that part of the lyrics. How 'bout if he sent you a vid with a song like this? Thought this vid was cute, found it on youtube.
"I'm Sorry" Lyrics by the Delfonics: "I'm Sorry" My love I ran around on you Yes I broke your heart in two And I want the world to know I'm sorry (sorry) So if by chance you want to know If I really love you so All you have do to is come and ask me And never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you Now I hunger for your touch I never knew you meant so much I know that I have hurt you and I'm sorry (sorry) So darling take me back again And our love will never end Don't listen to the whole world talk about me Please never mind what they say Never mind what they do I'll tell you tra la la la la la Know that I love you Tra la la la la la Know that I love you ----- (This is all in fun folks) [Edited 3/27/10 19:36pm] Cute video! It made me smile! You made me laugh!
The answer though is hell no! After hearing P&G and C&E, I don't think a "new" song would help matters at all.
He'd do better dusting the cobwebs off that vault and finding something so funky that it renders me speechless!
. [Edited 3/27/10 20:21pm] Nice to know it made you smile. Maybe when all this simmers, who knows, maybe down the road he'll do a new album, a tour or offer a DVD. [Edited 3/28/10 7:38am] | |
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