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Reply #90 posted 09/05/05 2:17pm

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Yeshua4all said:

asg said:

maybe the back ground is fake ( with women with the baby)but that is a real pic of bush after katrina.I saw him with a guitar on bill mahers





If you believe everything you hear and see on Bill Maher's show then God help you. I see and hear people on TV and radio refer to people with a conservative or Christian world view as EXTREMISTS all the time and yet I can't think of anyone in the current american popular culture who is more EXTREMIST in his world view as Bill Maher. He (like Howard Dean) absolutely hates Christians. Funny though that during the time of the immediate aftermath of Katrina when one could certainly say that the machinery of the federal response was simply anemic, Christian congregations and charities were already marshalling resources to provide help and relief to thousands of unfortunate souls who lost everything, in some cases even hope. But this is only the latest example of how I only see and hear vilification of conservatives and Christians in our media but see a very different thing in real life where it truly counts. Not trying to preach, just being real and in this case "politically incorrect". peace
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That because people like Bill only see the crazy conservative Chritians like Pat Robertson. I wish of the normal christian people and groups would speak up more. It this happen you would not see people like Bill going off on Christians because they would see that we are not all mental.
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Reply #91 posted 09/05/05 2:58pm

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Dang it, still can't download cuz I'm on a MAC.

When oh When will the club get more MAC friendly?

Hope the track gets to iTunes soon!
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Reply #92 posted 09/05/05 3:04pm

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Brand New Orleans is also now available in the Musicology download store - 77c for members, 99c for non-members.


Is it better quality than 96 kbps?
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Reply #93 posted 09/05/05 3:10pm

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I like "SST", The ending reminds me of an Emancipation song.

Nice to see Prince is using his music to help!
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Reply #94 posted 09/05/05 3:20pm

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goat2004 said:

asg said:

maybe the back ground is fake ( with women with the baby)but that is a real pic of bush after katrina.I saw him with a guitar on bill mahers





Wait a minute, am I the only one who thinks this picture is a little suspect? Like it was doctored somehow? No, I'm not a Bush supporter but this picture doesn't look authentic. Does someone have the site where they posted it from?



Most everyone knows it is "doctored". I don't think it is meant to be believable.
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Reply #95 posted 09/05/05 8:14pm

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goat2004 said:




Wait a minute, am I the only one who thinks this picture is a little suspect? Like it was doctored somehow? No, I'm not a Bush supporter but this picture doesn't look authentic. Does someone have the site where they posted it from?



Most everyone knows it is "doctored". I don't think it is meant to be believable.


The Pic of the woman with the baby is real footage from the media ~ Bush was added rolleyes
?Cause me and u could have been a work of art

BE BLESSED!!
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Reply #96 posted 09/05/05 8:26pm

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It is a real pic of bush post katrina

interpret said:

FunkiestOne said:




Most everyone knows it is "doctored". I don't think it is meant to be believable.


The Pic of the woman with the baby is real footage from the media ~ Bush was added rolleyes
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Reply #97 posted 09/06/05 6:00am

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damn, i wish they'd support macs.

anyone willing to share?
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Reply #98 posted 09/06/05 9:19am

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THEY ADDED Brand New Orleans TOO!
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Reply #99 posted 09/06/05 10:19am

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BobGeorge909 said:

THEY ADDED Brand New Orleans TOO!




What do the lyrics mean?? He's making the point about "oil" or "music"... u choose which is better kind of thing.. and the link with sade??? sweetest taboo?

where is the 'link'.. because I dont quite see it!

Its very cryptic to me... its obvious he's unhappy at those who sell guns, and seems to always be asking... "what did u do about it" kind of thing...

Can anyone exaplin this better ??
The Tao te Ching gives advice to rulers:

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Reply #100 posted 09/06/05 10:28am

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PurpleHouse said:

BobGeorge909 said:

THEY ADDED Brand New Orleans TOO!




What do the lyrics mean?? He's making the point about "oil" or "music"... u choose which is better kind of thing.. and the link with sade??? sweetest taboo?

where is the 'link'.. because I dont quite see it!

Its very cryptic to me... its obvious he's unhappy at those who sell guns, and seems to always be asking... "what did u do about it" kind of thing...

Can anyone exaplin this better ??



Who will b a guest in your tent?
Certainly not the ones who don’t wanna repent
And keep giving guns 2 the poorest of our nation’s sons.
Who is gonna call U by name?
With no confusion, trinity or preacher’s vain?
Who says that everytime
And opens up the eyes of the blind
Who will b the 1 in his bed?
Certainly not the 1’s who put thorn’s on his head
And wished him dead while they took his daily bread.
Which 1 is of value 2 U?
The 1 depleting the oil supply
Or the One that Renews it
And keeps the peace…
Like the groove in Sade’s Sweetest Taboo
Who will b a guest in your tent?
R U gonna b happy with how Ur life has been spent?
Did U have open arms 4 each and everyone U met
Or did U let them die in the rain?

Endless war, poverty or hurricane…
Then it’s time for another groove…
Like Sade’s Sweetest Taboo


It seems to me that Prince is in desire of a regime change on a MEAN level. Not a John Kerry instead of George Bush. I think he wants PEOPLE in charge instead of Democrats and republicans. It sometimes amazes me, how on occassion, Prince can be soooo subtle about something sooo important. It matches his philosiphy of always being different. EVERYONE is wearing shap tailored suits. He does to...but they're lopsided, he's ALWAYS gotta be different, at whatever cost. EVERYONE is up in arms and yelling at the gov't. He simply says what he says here.



that said...

aside from the lyrics...

like The Frog said...

...it's alright...


In a nutshell...


I think it means that we've gotta decide what's gonna be best for all of us...and leave the desenters behind...if necessary....or in Prince's word's...not let them in the tent. I don't think there's much of a link to The Sweetest Taboo other than the mood it might put U in while listening to it. A refrence to a change in the current mood of the population, to a better one he experienced while listening to the song in question. Not anything specific.


We need to start making the more difficult, the good decisions...instead of the ones we seem to be focused on, which seem to only have number one in mind.

get out of the commercial machine we're in and help the people machine.


i.e.: It's time for a new groove...



edit: the top 2/3's I copied and pasted from a previous post EYE made in another thread.
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Reply #101 posted 09/06/05 10:37am

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WildAndPeaceful said:



I've seen every Real Time with Bill Maher and all of his stand-up concerts... Never once heard him say he "hates Christians."... I feel he shines a true light on the hypocrisy practiced by many (not all) who are religous.


My friend, it is entirely possible that if one were to take an exhaustive look at the writings and speeches of Hitler that you may never come across the declarative statement, "I hate the Jews", but in every sense of how he spoke toward them and wrote of them, it was crystal clear to anyone looking that Hitler in fact hated the Jewish people. Bill Maher goes out of his way to berate and denegrate Christians every chance that he gets. He absolutely despises them except for the psuedo-Christian cronies and fellow mouthpieces for the far left that he has as regular guests. You know the ones with prefixes of Rev. and Dr. before their names, who supposedly speak for the black community and whose views on a great number of issues are completely antithetical to the teachings of both the old and new testiment writings. They're just fine with him, but if you truly believe the Bible and order your life and actions in accordance with it, believe me when say that he hates you for it, very much in the same way Hitler hated the Jews though he in fact may have never said quote, "I hate the Jews."


What a perfect analogy... Guess you're right... Bill Maher IS the new Hitler.
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Reply #102 posted 09/06/05 11:15am

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Yeshua4all said:

WildAndPeaceful said:



I've seen every Real Time with Bill Maher and all of his stand-up concerts... Never once heard him say he "hates Christians."... I feel he shines a true light on the hypocrisy practiced by many (not all) who are religous.


My friend, it is entirely possible that if one were to take an exhaustive look at the writings and speeches of Hitler that you may never come across the declarative statement, "I hate the Jews", but in every sense of how he spoke toward them and wrote of them, it was crystal clear to anyone looking that Hitler in fact hated the Jewish people. Bill Maher goes out of his way to berate and denegrate Christians every chance that he gets. He absolutely despises them except for the psuedo-Christian cronies and fellow mouthpieces for the far left that he has as regular guests. You know the ones with prefixes of Rev. and Dr. before their names, who supposedly speak for the black community and whose views on a great number of issues are completely antithetical to the teachings of both the old and new testiment writings. They're just fine with him, but if you truly believe the Bible and order your life and actions in accordance with it, believe me when say that he hates you for it, very much in the same way Hitler hated the Jews though he in fact may have never said quote, "I hate the Jews."



he doesn't hate christian's. He doesn't agree with their system of organised religion, or religion at all. He doesn't like that many of them follow leadership blindly and without question, and it's that which he usually berates. But he doesn't hate christians.
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Reply #103 posted 09/06/05 2:51pm

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This just great. Prince has a new song, that a lot of people are loving, and I can't hear it. I paid for it, but can't play due to license problem. I don't get it. I don't have problems playing anything else. NPGMC says that due to the nature of the problem, they can't help me. I tried all their other suggestions. Nothing works. Ugh!!!
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Reply #104 posted 09/06/05 4:36pm

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Now Michael is coming out with his. It says it's going to take him two weeks. Prince has one in the can already yet it's Michael that gets on all the news wires. Prince really needs a better publicist.


Michael Jackson plans single for Katrina victims
Sep 06 3:30 PM US/Eastern



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina, his publicist said on Tuesday.

Jackson will record the single, "From the Bottom of My Heart," within two weeks, and he plans to enlist other entertainers for the project, spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

"It pains me to watch the human suffering taking place in the Gulf region of my country," Jackson, 47, said in a written statement. "My heart and prayers go out to every individual who has had to endure the pain and suffering caused by this tragedy."

He added: "I will be reaching out to others within the music industry to join me in helping bring relief and hope to these resilient people who have lost everything."

Jackson, who left his Neverland Valley Ranch in California for Bahrain after his acquittal on child molestation charges in June, will record the song on a label owned by Bahrain's crown prince, Bain said, and donate the proceeds to hurricane victims.

Bain said Jackson was hoping to repeat the success he had with "We Are the World," a 1985 charity single with dozens of the era's top recording stars that raised more than $60 million for Africa. Jackson wrote the song with singer Lionel Richie.
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Reply #105 posted 09/06/05 6:50pm

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JonSnow said:

MikeMatronik said:



It's magical moment...

He wrote and did all it yesterday!

Few artists have the guts and talent 2 do so!

P is back!


You are so right. I posted in my blog that i can't imagine ANYBODY coming up with a track like this - fully written and recorded and produced and to the fans - as quickly as Prince. Amazing, amazing, amazing.


Some people... May I point y'all to the War Child album in the UK? This year for the second time a bunch of artists will record AN ENTIRE ALBUM (i.e. one song apiece) IN ONE DAY and release it on iTunes THE NEXT DAY (and release it on CD as soon as possible). They did this about 10 years ago too (without the iTunes thingy of course).

So please, no more of that "only Prince can do this" crap, it's been done before and those efforts (unlike this Prince track) will get lots of press and will generate a ton of money.
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Reply #106 posted 09/06/05 6:55pm

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Yeshua4all said:

My friend, it is entirely possible that if one were to take an exhaustive look at the writings and speeches of Hitler that you may never come across the declarative statement, "I hate the Jews", but in every sense of how he spoke toward them and wrote of them, it was crystal clear to anyone looking that Hitler in fact hated the Jewish people. Bill Maher goes out of his way to berate and denegrate Christians every chance that he gets. He absolutely despises them except for the psuedo-Christian cronies and fellow mouthpieces for the far left that he has as regular guests. You know the ones with prefixes of Rev. and Dr. before their names, who supposedly speak for the black community and whose views on a great number of issues are completely antithetical to the teachings of both the old and new testiment writings. They're just fine with him, but if you truly believe the Bible and order your life and actions in accordance with it, believe me when say that he hates you for it, very much in the same way Hitler hated the Jews though he in fact may have never said quote, "I hate the Jews."


Bill Maher dislikes ALL organised religion, mostly because of the inevitable appearance of extremists, like all those kooky Christians who demand that their opinion be made into law. It speaks volumes that you feel so much sympathy for those extremists that you decide to smear Bill Maher's reputation. with lies and innuendo. Very "Christian" of you. Maybe you should read that bible again and look up what it says about lying and gossiping.
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Reply #107 posted 09/06/05 11:20pm

asg

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By the time its released it will be another year this guy needs alot of time and lots of money b4 he can come up with a song\


intha916 said:

Now Michael is coming out with his. It says it's going to take him two weeks. Prince has one in the can already yet it's Michael that gets on all the news wires. Prince really needs a better publicist.


Michael Jackson plans single for Katrina victims
Sep 06 3:30 PM US/Eastern



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina, his publicist said on Tuesday.

Jackson will record the single, "From the Bottom of My Heart," within two weeks, and he plans to enlist other entertainers for the project, spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

"It pains me to watch the human suffering taking place in the Gulf region of my country," Jackson, 47, said in a written statement. "My heart and prayers go out to every individual who has had to endure the pain and suffering caused by this tragedy."

He added: "I will be reaching out to others within the music industry to join me in helping bring relief and hope to these resilient people who have lost everything."

Jackson, who left his Neverland Valley Ranch in California for Bahrain after his acquittal on child molestation charges in June, will record the song on a label owned by Bahrain's crown prince, Bain said, and donate the proceeds to hurricane victims.

Bain said Jackson was hoping to repeat the success he had with "We Are the World," a 1985 charity single with dozens of the era's top recording stars that raised more than $60 million for Africa. Jackson wrote the song with singer Lionel Richie.
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Reply #108 posted 09/07/05 7:40am

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asg said:

By the time its released it will be another year this guy needs alot of time and lots of money b4 he can come up with a song\


intha916 said:

Now Michael is coming out with his. It says it's going to take him two weeks. Prince has one in the can already yet it's Michael that gets on all the news wires. Prince really needs a better publicist.


Michael Jackson plans single for Katrina victims
Sep 06 3:30 PM US/Eastern



LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Pop star Michael Jackson, who has been in seclusion since his acquittal on sex abuse charges, has written a song that he will record to benefit victims of Hurricane Katrina, his publicist said on Tuesday.

Jackson will record the single, "From the Bottom of My Heart," within two weeks, and he plans to enlist other entertainers for the project, spokeswoman Raymone Bain said.

"It pains me to watch the human suffering taking place in the Gulf region of my country," Jackson, 47, said in a written statement. "My heart and prayers go out to every individual who has had to endure the pain and suffering caused by this tragedy."

He added: "I will be reaching out to others within the music industry to join me in helping bring relief and hope to these resilient people who have lost everything."

Jackson, who left his Neverland Valley Ranch in California for Bahrain after his acquittal on child molestation charges in June, will record the song on a label owned by Bahrain's crown prince, Bain said, and donate the proceeds to hurricane victims.

Bain said Jackson was hoping to repeat the success he had with "We Are the World," a 1985 charity single with dozens of the era's top recording stars that raised more than $60 million for Africa. Jackson wrote the song with singer Lionel Richie.



i dont care who is doing what when and for what reasons...the bottom line is, people will benefit...so koodoos to prince *and* mj.
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Reply #109 posted 09/07/05 7:51am

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sosgemini said:

asg said:

By the time its released it will be another year this guy needs alot of time and lots of money b4 he can come up with a song\





i dont care who is doing what when and for what reasons...the bottom line is, people will benefit...so koodoos to prince *and* mj.


exactly, as long as they're fighting for the same cause, who gives
a flying fuck wether one gets more recognition than the other.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #110 posted 09/07/05 10:10pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

Yeshua4all said:

My friend, it is entirely possible that if one were to take an exhaustive look at the writings and speeches of Hitler that you may never come across the declarative statement, "I hate the Jews", but in every sense of how he spoke toward them and wrote of them, it was crystal clear to anyone looking that Hitler in fact hated the Jewish people. Bill Maher goes out of his way to berate and denegrate Christians every chance that he gets. He absolutely despises them except for the psuedo-Christian cronies and fellow mouthpieces for the far left that he has as regular guests. You know the ones with prefixes of Rev. and Dr. before their names, who supposedly speak for the black community and whose views on a great number of issues are completely antithetical to the teachings of both the old and new testiment writings. They're just fine with him, but if you truly believe the Bible and order your life and actions in accordance with it, believe me when say that he hates you for it, very much in the same way Hitler hated the Jews though he in fact may have never said quote, "I hate the Jews."


Bill Maher dislikes ALL organised religion, mostly because of the inevitable appearance of extremists, like all those kooky Christians who demand that their opinion be made into law. It speaks volumes that you feel so much sympathy for those extremists that you decide to smear Bill Maher's reputation. with lies and innuendo. Very "Christian" of you. Maybe you should read that bible again and look up what it says about lying and gossiping.



Hey man if you want to be a cheerleader for Bill and the blatant hostility that he spews out on the regular, that's your right, a right that I might add that in this country is protected. As for his reputation, that completely depends on who you're talking to because it certainly changes from one end of the spectrum to the other with regard to the american populus. Your view certainly isn't representative of me or millions of others. I personaly don't believe that tar could smear that man but that's beside the point. In this country a critical observation of someone's regularly taped and documented comments does not by any means constitute either lying or gossiping. That would be communist China. I work for NPR no less. We do this everyday.

I don't have to wonder too much if you would accuse me of such nonsense if I agreed with your assessment of Mr. Maher. Your real problem obviously is that I don't hold your view. How dare me. Very "tolerant" of you. I admit however that I probably couldn't expect anything else from someone whose opening characterization of my faith community was "kooky Christians". No, I'm pretty sure that the true volumes that have been disclosed here speak not of my heart but your own.

Oh, and I'm all caught up on what the Bible says regarding both lying and gossiping. You see I actually read and believe it, and won't just reference it to make failed points having no apparent experiencial knowledge of that in which I reference.

Folks, it was not my intention to get this far off field of the thread so with respect toward my fellow orgers I'll simply say that my email is listed and I'm happy and equipped to further engage in this dialogue but this thread is not the place. I stand 100% behind my posts but my apologies to any that perceived a hijacking of the thread.

Baruch Hashem Adonai
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Reply #111 posted 09/07/05 10:46pm

mymocha

Love that there are finally new Downloads, love them.....but
really want to know what SST really stands for. Just don't
see how it could stand for: Sade's Sweetest Taboo, when it is
suposse to be in response to "Katrina". I just don't see
the connection. Can anyone explain?
[Edited 9/7/05 22:46pm]
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Reply #112 posted 09/08/05 3:53am

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mymocha said:

Love that there are finally new Downloads, love them.....but
really want to know what SST really stands for. Just don't
see how it could stand for: Sade's Sweetest Taboo, when it is
suposse to be in response to "Katrina". I just don't see
the connection. Can anyone explain?
[Edited 9/7/05 22:46pm]

Just got this email from NPGMC:

Hello NPGMC

B sure 2 look 4 "SST", the new cybersingle from Prince.
Now available in the Musicology Download Store.

Watching the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina's wrath, Sade's
"Sweetest Taboo" was put on a loop. After which Prince
wrote "SST" early Friday morning, Sept 2nd, after staying up
all night. He sang all the voices and played all the
instruments. "Brand New Orleans" (featured in Glam Slam this
weekend) is the xtended jam at the end of "SST." All instruments
again by Prince. Just a lil somethin' 2 take away the
blues.

All proceeds from the sale of the cybersingle will go 2
Hurricane Relief.

Love4oneanother,
NPG Music Club & The Love4OneAnother Charity
http://www.npgmusicclub.com/
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #113 posted 09/08/05 8:21am

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Reply #114 posted 09/08/05 8:54am

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Yeshua4all said:

Your view certainly isn't representative of me or millions of others.


I know. But unlike you, I go by the EVIDENCE and not by hurt feelings.

(What is it with conservatives that makes them so sensitive to even the slightest comments or jokes, yet completely insensitive to actual suffering?)

Yeshua4all said:

In this country a critical observation of someone's regularly taped and documented comments does not by any means constitute either lying or gossiping. That would be communist China.


Maher got fired for something he said post-9/11 (which was BTW an old joke that originated in the previous Gulf war). What was that you said about freedom of expression?

Yeshua4all said:

I admit however that I probably couldn't expect anything else from someone whose opening characterization of my faith community was "kooky Christians".


I said: "extremists, like all those kooky Christians who demand that their opinion be made into law." I SPECIFICALLY refer to the EXTREMISTS. Apparently you didn't pay attention in reading class -- or maybe you did understand me perfectly well and you're one of those who march alongside loons like Robertson, once again mistaking their UNchristian opinions and remarks and actions as something you need to defend.

Then again, the simple fact that you compare Maher to Hitler speaks volumes. The simple fact that you get upset that Maher "berates and denegrates Christians" yet fail to notice that he says similar things about Muslim extremists also speaks volumes. Maher dislikes ALL organised religions -- that is a FACT.

Yeah, maybe he talks more about those who you consider to be christians, but then again that's just logical: he is an American and America is being overrun by christian extremists who want to force their agende upon others.
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Reply #115 posted 09/08/05 9:22am

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Ummm... I love the song. Are we still talking about the song on here???
Wanna hear me sing? biggrin www.ChampagneHoneybee.com
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Reply #116 posted 09/08/05 11:33am

bunnyman

Possible contender for worst song ever made.
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Reply #117 posted 09/08/05 12:28pm

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bunnyman said:

Possible contender for worst song ever made.


You are not a Prince fan... neutral
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Reply #118 posted 09/08/05 1:26pm

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bunnyman said:

Possible contender for worst song ever made.


You are not a Prince fan... neutral


Coming from the one who called him 'gay'
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Reply #119 posted 09/08/05 3:06pm

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Quick question for ya'll. The file says its a wma file. Can you burn this onto cd or do you have to convert it to an MP3? Thanks, Farfunk
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