udo said:

3rdeyedude said:

jjazznola said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early 80s and I have seen him around 25 times, on every US tour except ONO including last night's early show. These days I would rather see D"Angelo. His band completely blows awy 3EG who is one of the weakest bands that Prince has ever has. They are not funky at all. I just do not get why he hold on to this gimmick. Plus, D'Angelo does not do those idiotic sampler sets! Don't get me wrong, Prince is the originator and D'Angelo is the student but Black Messiah is better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. Those two latest albums were such a disappointment. He really does seem washed up when it comes to making new music. And look at these setlists. Cool/Don't Stop Until you Get Enough? Once was ok but for years and years? His setlists have been stale for years.

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

[Edited 6/15/15 15:25pm]

Could not agree more, and I too have seen Prince dozens of times over the years including some unbelievable aftershows. And I saw D'Angelo twice over the past two years and Prince in Baltimore just a few weeks ago, so this is all fresh. To me Prince is to D'Angelo today what James Brown was to Prince back in the early 1980s: a legend, teacher and still highly professional performer, but still a much more complacent, repetitive and overall far less exciting act.

KingSausage said:

His two shows in DC

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He did three.

One of which I asked about.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

3rdeyedude said:

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

[Edited 6/15/15 15:25pm]

As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

"Let's see what D'Angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then": well I am interested in who I find most exciting today, and clearly there is not the slighest beginning of a debate, it is D for sure! Your comment is pretty much the comment James Brown fans made when Prince crushed him in the early 1980s. Well now it is Prince's turn...

iZsaZsa said:

It's private. It's none of your business.

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Ah, oh. So if Barry Soetero bypasses congress and goes to war it is private as well?

In all cases tax payer money is used. Directly or indirectly.

And in the case of the performance mr P has a decision to make, too.

Money is always easy. But if he doesn't think here... What about teh value of his political lyrics elsewhere?

udo said:

udo said:

jjazznola said:

malexandria said:

No because unlike most touring acts, Prince changes his shows up from night to night to keep it fresh for the audience and problem himself. I've seen him multiple nights in a row and over 15 times and no two shows are the same. He'll do a core group of songs but then he'll do different arrangements, different order and will always throw in a bunch of extra songs outside of the core stuff. So it always feels fresh.

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

I'll say it again. Whenever I read on the Org how Prince has been doing the same show for the last 10 years I laugh. Usually such a statement comes from overzelous super fans who have seen Prince 90 plus times. U never see these kind of threads on Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Madonna and the like on their fan sites. Because their fans, for the most part, are not delusional. THEIR fans understand that they are, at the heart of it all, popular (pop) artists. They r not trying to find a cure for cancer. They are performing for folks who are dropping down their hard earned money to hear "Born To Run," "Superstition," "[place any Beatles song here] and "Holiday"....

The irony is Prince pretty much mixes it up live more than most of his peers. He will indeed play "Little Red Corvette," "Let's Go Crazy" in every show....But for the people who have never seen Prince live or have only seen him 1 or 2 times, these reworkings of some of his classics are indeed fresh and new....And he will bring out the obscure gem once in a while ("The Love We Make" for example)....

To tell u the truth, I dig this live version of Prince more than hearing a lot of the sleepy time stuff he was doing a few years ago and having to endure Shelby's mic hogging....

Bottom line: A lot of Prince fans on the Org have a very inflated view of themselves, much in the way of their hero. How ironic is that?

[Edited 6/16/15 7:09am]

Was John Blackwell on drums at some point???

murph said:

I'll say it again. Whenever I read on the Org how Prince has been doing the same show for the last 10 years I laugh. Usually such a statement comes from overzelous super fans who have seen Prince 90 plus times. U never see these kind of threads on Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Madonna and the like on their fan sites. Because their fans, for the most part, are not delusional. THEIR fans understand that they are, at the heart of it all, popular (pop) artists. They r not trying to find a cure for cancer. They are performing for folks who are dropping down their hard earned money to hear "Born To Run," "Superstition," "[place any Beatles song here] and "Holiday"....

The irony is Prince pretty much mixes it up live more than most of his peers. He will indeed play "Little Red Corvette," "Let's Go Crazy" in every show....But for the people who have never seen Prince live or have only seen him 1 or 2 times, these reworkings of some of his classics are indeed fresh and new....And he will bring out the obscure gem once in a while ("The Love We Make" for example)....

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I have my doubts about this... first, i find it hard to believe that any forum on the internet doesn't have people complaining about something. Second, at least in the case of Madonna, it seems like she puts on a whole new big production show every few years, with setlists that vary (from tour to tour) more than Prince's*. My guess is that if Madonna's fans aren't complaining, it's because her shows are actually different from tour to tour.

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* yes, i understand that within a tour, every Madonna show is the same, but Prince's 'new' setlists every night are so interchangable and they've been that way for a long time.

[Edited 6/16/15 8:13am]

SignOthetimes1987 said:

jjazznola said:

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

this is why I don't go anymore.

the same songs moved around a bit.

for more than 10 years.

the sampler set is disgusting.

disrespectful.

this is the lowest Prince has ever been.

and yeah,D'Angelo'S band and record compared to AOA?

P is in the wilderness and these shows are scams for money.

You got that right... I wouldn't mind the sampler set, I would actually dig the sampler set. But the same songs moved around bit is so dead on!!!

murph said:

jjazznola said:

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

I'll say it again. Whenever I read on the Org how Prince has been doing the same show for the last 10 years I laugh. Usually such a statement comes from overzelous super fans who have seen Prince 90 plus times. U never see these kind of threads on Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Madonna and the like on their fan sites. Because their fans, for the most part, are not delusional. THEIR fans understand that they are, at the heart of it all, popular (pop) artists. They r not trying to find a cure for cancer. They are performing for folks who are dropping down their hard earned money to hear "Born To Run," "Superstition," "[place any Beatles song here] and "Holiday"....

The irony is Prince pretty much mixes it up live more than most of his peers. He will indeed play "Little Red Corvette," "Let's Go Crazy" in every show....But for the people who have never seen Prince live or have only seen him 1 or 2 times, these reworkings of some of his classics are indeed fresh and new....And he will bring out the obscure gem once in a while ("The Love We Make" for example)....

To tell u the truth, I dig this live version of Prince more than hearing a lot of the sleepy time stuff he was doing a few years ago and having to endure Shelby's mic hogging....

Bottom line: A lot of Prince fans on the Org have a very inflated view of themselves, much in the way of their hero. How ironic is that?

[Edited 6/16/15 7:09am]

Really? Look at the songs on that list 90% of the songs on that list is old as hell, there's not even a slight of 90's 00's 10's of his music on there!!!! Nostalgia Act

trc1 said:

OK. Yes his set list is pretty much the same but, members of the band has to learn the majority of his music in order for the set list to expand and maybe, MAYBE it's only the popular ones that he's pushing. 3EG are very talente and you would think that they could play all of P's tunes. Not always possible.

The girls themselves have stated that they have supposedly learned almost 100 songs, just saying.

I tend to agree with the comment that his shows now are a ''scam for money''. Pretty much the same core set every show ever since this 3rdEyeGirl rubbish. The sampler set is a cheat & It's just a touring Vegas show now & it needs to change soon or I will have to call it quits. It's not even worth downloading the bootlegs anymore, they are all the same.

fusk said:

murph said:

I'll say it again. Whenever I read on the Org how Prince has been doing the same show for the last 10 years I laugh. Usually such a statement comes from overzelous super fans who have seen Prince 90 plus times. U never see these kind of threads on Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Madonna and the like on their fan sites. Because their fans, for the most part, are not delusional. THEIR fans understand that they are, at the heart of it all, popular (pop) artists. They r not trying to find a cure for cancer. They are performing for folks who are dropping down their hard earned money to hear "Born To Run," "Superstition," "[place any Beatles song here] and "Holiday"....

The irony is Prince pretty much mixes it up live more than most of his peers. He will indeed play "Little Red Corvette," "Let's Go Crazy" in every show....But for the people who have never seen Prince live or have only seen him 1 or 2 times, these reworkings of some of his classics are indeed fresh and new....And he will bring out the obscure gem once in a while ("The Love We Make" for example)....

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I have my doubts about this... first, i find it hard to believe that any forum on the internet doesn't have people complaining about something. Second, at least in the case of Madonna, it seems like she puts on a whole new big production show every few years, with setlists that vary (from tour to tour) more than Prince's*. My guess is that if Madonna's fans aren't complaining, it's because her shows are actually different from tour to tour.

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* yes, i understand that within a tour, every Madonna show is the same, but Prince's 'new' setlists every night are so interchangable and they've been that way for a long time.

[Edited 6/16/15 8:13am]

I've been to other artists' sites....And trust me, you don't get some of the ridiculous things we see on the Org....There are not a crew of folks bitching about hearing "Live And Let Die" for the 1, 000, 000th time.....They know the drill. Paul Mac and the like are not hear to turn water into wine. They are putting on a show for the fans....That's it.

Like I said, it comes down to super Prince fans being super Prince fans.....These r the same overzelous fans who are still pining away for a 20 something year old Prince in his prime to rock out onstage. These r the same fans that have witnessed Prince waaaaaaaaay too many times in concert to give a sensible critique of the Midget's show....Again, the irony is Prince, out of most of his aging peers, is revered outside of the Org for giving some of the most acclaimed live shows around at nearly 60 years old.

If I were a Martian who knew nothing about Prince and somehow found myself on Org I would walk away thinking that Prince was a lazy slob who has proven himself to be a joke....I guess we can kinda blame P for this. He has been a bit of a dick to us fans in the past. So I guess he now is getting the fans he truly deserves, if I was being cold and cynical about it.

Or maybe, just maybe, some of u guys need to find a new artist to follow to fulfill whatever hole that is in your life...Because this shit is getting ridiculous....lol

Marco81 said:

Was John Blackwell on drums at some point???

Yea, I see him in a photo. Was he the drummer the whole concert or Hanna was there he just set in a few songs?

langebleu said:

Show 2

Hannah - speech
Intro - inc. Million $ Show
Guitar

Plectrumelectrum
Let's Go Crazy
Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look

Shake!

Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough (inc. Sir Duke horn line)

When Doves Cry

Nasty Girl

777 9311

Hot Thing

Housequake
U Know
The Screams Of Passion

Pop Life

Forever In My Life

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Kiss

As Trains Go By
Mountains

The Dance Electric
Superstition
I Wish
Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)
Signed, Sealed, Delivered
Living For The City
Purple Rain

Show 2 seems way Better in my opinion! Bolded Songs are songs that is not always played

I ended up going to both shows!!!

Let's talk about that song "SLOW DOWN/ LITTLE RED CORVETTE!!!!

That was Awesome!!! If he would release that track right now it would be top of the charts!!!

That song had some much soul in it. The guitar riffs sounded like a true Blues song.

So what was the song? slow down or little red corvette?

That was two hot shows.

He did alot of his usual songs but he always changes the songs up. The almost never sound the same

How can you complain about him playing his classics? That's why we pay him top dollar to go

* I like D'angelo but lets be real. His new album is nice music with a bunch of MUMBLING. wtf is he even saying. His first 2 cds are classics. but that don't or will never stack up to Prince

I didn't get the hype on the Judith HIll? Wasn't impresed.

I was really impressed with ThirdEyeGirl! These ladies can play.

How did you all get so many pics? They were really cracking down on picture taking. I've never seen them so strict. I didn't get any pics because I was worried about getting thrown out of show.

CAN EVERYONE THAT WENT PLEASE POST YOUR PICS SO I CAN COPY AND SAVE PICS?!?!?

THANKS!!!!!!!!

murph said:

jjazznola said:

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

I'll say it again. Whenever I read on the Org how Prince has been doing the same show for the last 10 years I laugh. Usually such a statement comes from overzelous super fans who have seen Prince 90 plus times. U never see these kind of threads on Bruce Springsteen, Paul McCartney, Stevie Wonder, Madonna and the like on their fan sites. Because their fans, for the most part, are not delusional. THEIR fans understand that they are, at the heart of it all, popular (pop) artists. They r not trying to find a cure for cancer. They are performing for folks who are dropping down their hard earned money to hear "Born To Run," "Superstition," "[place any Beatles song here] and "Holiday"....

The irony is Prince pretty much mixes it up live more than most of his peers. He will indeed play "Little Red Corvette," "Let's Go Crazy" in every show....But for the people who have never seen Prince live or have only seen him 1 or 2 times, these reworkings of some of his classics are indeed fresh and new....And he will bring out the obscure gem once in a while ("The Love We Make" for example)....

To tell u the truth, I dig this live version of Prince more than hearing a lot of the sleepy time stuff he was doing a few years ago and having to endure Shelby's mic hogging....

Bottom line: A lot of Prince fans on the Org have a very inflated view of themselves, much in the way of their hero. How ironic is that?

[Edited 6/16/15 7:09am]

Springsteen is not a very good example. I've seen him play hundreds of different songs. He changes up the setlists drastically from one night to the next. I do agree with the Shelby's mic hogging point though but I thought the shows on the Musicology & W2A tours were way better and longer than these. Much better bands on those tours than 3EG. Madonna is more about the production although she does do different songs from tour to tour. Prince has a huge catalog but hardly plays any of it. I expect some hits but how about mixing in some other great songs? He was not always a jukebox. And none of those other artists sit down and do that awful sampler set that's been the same for years now and then have the nerve to say "real music" or make fun of lip synchers. What he is doing is pretty much the same thing.

jaimestarr79 said:

I ended up going to both shows!!!

Let's talk about that song "SLOW DOWN/ LITTLE RED CORVETTE!!!!

That was Awesome!!! If he would release that track right now it would be top of the charts!!!

That song had some much soul in it. The guitar riffs sounded like a true Blues song.

So what was the song? slow down or little red corvette?

That was two hot shows.

He did alot of his usual songs but he always changes the songs up. The almost never sound the same

How can you complain about him playing his classics? That's why we pay him top dollar to go

* I like D'angelo but lets be real. His new album is nice music with a bunch of MUMBLING. wtf is he even saying. His first 2 cds are classics. but that don't or will never stack up to Prince

He has been playing Little Red Corvette like that for years now. Where have you been? D'Angelo just mumbles? Maybe your ears are clogged up! His new album blows away his other two and will win a lot of year end awards. It already won the Village Voice Album of The Year. As opposed to the 2 clunkers that Prince put out...

Astasheiks said:

Marco81 said:

Was John Blackwell on drums at some point???

Yea, I see him in a photo. Was he the drummer the whole concert or Hanna was there he just set in a few songs?

John Blackwell makes Hanna look like an amateur. Please bring him back!

jjazznola said:

jjazznola said:

jaimestarr79 said:

I ended up going to both shows!!!

Let's talk about that song "SLOW DOWN/ LITTLE RED CORVETTE!!!!

That was Awesome!!! If he would release that track right now it would be top of the charts!!!

That song had some much soul in it. The guitar riffs sounded like a true Blues song.

So what was the song? slow down or little red corvette?

That was two hot shows.

He did alot of his usual songs but he always changes the songs up. The almost never sound the same

How can you complain about him playing his classics? That's why we pay him top dollar to go

* I like D'angelo but lets be real. His new album is nice music with a bunch of MUMBLING. wtf is he even saying. His first 2 cds are classics. but that don't or will never stack up to Prince

Let's do. So did it start off as LRC and then kind of segue into Slow Down? He's been doing that for a few years now, but he seems to have added some more to it now. I would still say it's LRC.

I think Judith has an awesome voice, prefer hers over Liv's. I've seen her do a couple of shows of her own and I think she's great. I can see how everyone might night like it though.

udo said:

KingSausage said:

His two shows in DC

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He did three.

One of which I asked about.

Thread title:

Prince performing In Washington, DC June 14th!

He performed two shows at the Warner Theatre on June 14th.

That's the focus of the thread.

The invitation-only private party hosted at the White House on 13 June is the subject of a different thread.

Back on topic

typo

[Edited 6/16/15 11:30am]

laurarichardson said:

jjazznola said:

He has been playing Little Red Corvette like that for years now. Where have you been? D'Angelo just mumbles? Maybe your ears are clogged up! His new album blows away his other two and will win a lot of year end awards. It already won the Village Voice Album of The Year. As opposed to the 2 clunkers that Prince put out...

He is mumbling on that CD no one knows what he saying he is never going to be P level and artificial age received excellent reviews and stayed on RuB for many weeks. You realize people are calling the 2nd showoneif the best ever.

Nice English! He is mumbling? Maybe you have hearing problems. I have no problem with hearing the outstanding lyrics. I doubt him or anyone else will be as great as Prince overall, I'm just talking about right now. AOA got nowhere near the accolades as Black Messiah. If AOA is so good, why doesn't P play the songs live? D'Angelo plays most of his current album instead of his older 90s hits and no one seems to mind at all. D'Angelo is now, Prince is for the most part an oldie act. I went to the early show in DC and thought it was one of the weakest Prince shows out of the 25 or so times that I have seen him. Still a lot of fun and I'm glad that I went but that band is nowhere as good as most of his bands from the past and is not in the same leauge as D'Angelo's curent band, The Vanguard. And then there's that dopey sampler set with the same old pre-recorded songs. Why? I do like when he does the piano set. It's obvious that he needs to sit down during the shows but 7 short songs into the show? He aint that old! 3EG is just not very funky at all, they hardly jam out at all. Bring back the NPG vibe. Hopefully P will wake up and move on from them. We shall see.

[Edited 6/16/15 12:16pm]