malexandria said:

1contessa said:

I wonder if Prince gets tired of doing the same old thing, such as performing, time after time? I mean, it's all he does, and have done for so long, it has to be boring and monotonous at times?

No because unlike most touring acts, Prince changes his shows up from night to night to keep it fresh for the audience and problem himself. I've seen him multiple nights in a row and over 15 times and no two shows are the same. He'll do a core group of songs but then he'll do different arrangements, different order and will always throw in a bunch of extra songs outside of the core stuff. So it always feels fresh.

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

jjazznola said:

3rdeyedude said:

for all those that don't make it, you can watch a guy with 1/20 the talent.....D'Angelo, right here at Bonnaroo....

http://www.avclub.com/art...ore-220603

I have been a Prince fan since the early 80s and I have seen him around 25 times, on every US tour except ONO including last night's early show. These days I would rather see D"Angelo. His band completely blows awy 3EG who is one of the weakest bands that Prince has ever has. They are not funky at all. I just do not get why he hold on to this gimmick. Plus, D'Angelo does not do those idiotic sampler sets! Don't get me wrong, Prince is the originator and D'Angelo is the student but Black Messiah is better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. Those two latest albums were such a disappointment. He really does seem washed up when it comes to making new music. And look at these setlists. Cool/Don't Stop Until you Get Enough? Once was ok but for years and years? His setlists have been stale for years.

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

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jjazznola said:

malexandria said:

No because unlike most touring acts, Prince changes his shows up from night to night to keep it fresh for the audience and problem himself. I've seen him multiple nights in a row and over 15 times and no two shows are the same. He'll do a core group of songs but then he'll do different arrangements, different order and will always throw in a bunch of extra songs outside of the core stuff. So it always feels fresh.

Really? He has been playing a lot of the same "core" songs for years and years now plus those idiotic sampler sets with a lot of the same pre-recorded songs. Why? He has dozens of songs that fans would love to hear but he sticks to mostly the same ones year after year, tour after tour. Just last night he played the following hits that it seems like he always plays:

Let's Go Crazy

Take Me With U
Raspberry Beret
U Got The Look
Cool / Don't Stop Til You Get Enough

Controversy

1999

Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U

Play That Funky Music

Kiss

Purple Rain

And the same old obnoxious, redundant sampler set:

When Doves Cry

Sign O The Times
Hot Thing

Nasty Girl

A Love Bizarre

Darling Nikki

I love the guy but c'mon. mix it up! Maybe if he had a better band....

this is why I don't go anymore.

the same songs moved around a bit.

for more than 10 years.

the sampler set is disgusting.

disrespectful.

this is the lowest Prince has ever been.

and yeah,D'Angelo'S band and record compared to AOA?

P is in the wilderness and these shows are scams for money.

3rdeyedude said:

jjazznola said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early 80s and I have seen him around 25 times, on every US tour except ONO including last night's early show. These days I would rather see D"Angelo. His band completely blows awy 3EG who is one of the weakest bands that Prince has ever has. They are not funky at all. I just do not get why he hold on to this gimmick. Plus, D'Angelo does not do those idiotic sampler sets! Don't get me wrong, Prince is the originator and D'Angelo is the student but Black Messiah is better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. Those two latest albums were such a disappointment. He really does seem washed up when it comes to making new music. And look at these setlists. Cool/Don't Stop Until you Get Enough? Once was ok but for years and years? His setlists have been stale for years.

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

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As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

3rdeyedude said:

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

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As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

We are talking about right now! D'Angelo is playing most of his great new album plus he is at the point in his career as Prince was when Dirty Mind, his 3rd album came out. His band absolutely blows away the band Prince has been using for a few years now. If Prince played mostly new songs, most fans would not even want to go including myself. I'll repeat: Black Messiah is WAY better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. I cannot wait to hear his upcoming companion album. Prince? I could care less if he ever puts out another album after the last 5 or 6 duds, especially PE which at times is embarrassingly bad. And maybe no one told you but he went back to calling himself Prince MANY years ago.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

3rdeyedude said:

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

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As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

Symbol didnt do those shows- Prince did.
Maybe that's the problem.
McCartney is older than Prince and his records are better imo and takes far more interesting risks muisclaly- live and studio. So age is not the issue.

jjazznola said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

We are talking about right now! D'Angelo is playing most of his great new album plus he is at the point in his career as Prince was when Dirty Mind, his 3rd album came out. His band absolutely blows away the band Prince has been using for a few years now. If Prince played mostly new songs, most fans would not even want to go including myself. I'll repeat: Black Messiah is WAY better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. I cannot wait to hear his upcoming companion album. Prince? I could care less if he ever puts out another album after the last 5 or 6 duds, especially PE which at times is embarrassingly bad. And maybe no one told you but he went back to calling himself Prince MANY years ago.

It's simply not fair to compare D'angelo to . It's just NOT! has over 35 ALBUMS in his legacy. He is a living LEGEND! Eye will NOT let U do it! Even though D'angelo did blow me away last week. D & his band was simply AMAZING!!!

But was a HEAVY influence throughout the show. "Black Messiah" sounded excellent live. D sounded just as great as he did everytime I've seen him here before. But he still can't touch . He uses his influence well though.

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

jjazznola said:

We are talking about right now! D'Angelo is playing most of his great new album plus he is at the point in his career as Prince was when Dirty Mind, his 3rd album came out. His band absolutely blows away the band Prince has been using for a few years now. If Prince played mostly new songs, most fans would not even want to go including myself. I'll repeat: Black Messiah is WAY better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. I cannot wait to hear his upcoming companion album. Prince? I could care less if he ever puts out another album after the last 5 or 6 duds, especially PE which at times is embarrassingly bad. And maybe no one told you but he went back to calling himself Prince MANY years ago.

It's simply not fair to compare D'angelo to . It's just NOT! has over 35 ALBUMS in his legacy. He is a living LEGEND! Eye will NOT let U do it! Even though D'angelo did blow me away last week. D & his band was simply AMAZING!!!

But was a HEAVY influence throughout the show. "Black Messiah" sounded excellent live. D sounded just as great as he did everytime I've seen him here before. But he still can't touch . He uses his influence well though.

His name is Prince you clown! "Eye will NOT let U do it!" Really? Then just go away, fanboy! You and your stupid writing and purple print. And allthough I think he is one of the alltime greats, a majority of those "35 albums" are pretty weak.

motherfunka said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

I wonder who that is on the screen in the background?

That would be Ida Nielsen.

Ah, cool.

rod319 said:

No Slow down was not a part of any extended mix. He started doing back in 2011.

Zannaloaf said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

As great as D'angelo is,he is my second favorite artist. His show(which is good) is mostly a carbon copy of what did DECADES ago! To say he is better is an insult to EVERY tour & album has done since b4 D'angelo was born. Let's see what D'angelo is doing when he is almost 60 then compare them then. MMMMkay!!

Symbol didnt do those shows- Prince did.
Maybe that's the problem.
McCartney is older than Prince and his records are better imo and takes far more interesting risks muisclaly- live and studio. So age is not the issue.

That's a good point. Prince should take inspiration from a peer who not only has his own sound and identity but similar creative arc. Sting to me is 7 years older than Prince and Sting continues to record challenging albums with songs that are out of the norm from his previous albums. He takes creative risks like recording with an orchestra and writing musically adventurous compositions. "Last Ship" and "Sacred Love" don't compare to his best albums lime Ten Summoner's Tales, Soul Cages and Nothing Like The Sun, but he doesn't let a fickle musical marketplace determine how he approaches music. Prince is capable of one last great album regardless of how it sells. When he released The Rainbow Children, he toured behind that music with One Nite Alone Tour. Prince's albums since Musicology has been better than average but Prince's talent is far from average and far superior than D'angelo, Bilal or any other artist folks on Okayplayer and here put on a pedestal. If 3RDEYEGIRL records another album, I hope he builds on the sound of that band during the Live Out Loud Tour with tightened songwriting.

A pic my friend took at the show.

docinwestchester said:

http://news.yahoo.com/whi...04322.html

(Comments section FULL of haters...of course)

White House defends 'private' Prince, Stevie Wonder gig

Washington (AFP) - President Barack Obama's administration on Monday defended its decision to keep a "private" White House party featuring Stevie Wonder, Prince and hundreds of guests out of the public eye.

The event on Saturday -- revealed by political figure and guest Al Sharpton on Twitter -- was paid for by the president, White House Spokesman Josh Earnest said.

"The president and first lady did hold a private party here at the White House over the weekend," said Earnest.

"But given the private nature of the event, I don't have a lot details to discuss."

"The president and first lady are going to reserve the right to host private parties at the White House, and they did it on their own dime."

Sharpton described the party, which cost an undisclosed amount, as an "unbelievable experience," with "Prince and Stevie Wonder on keyboards together."

But the guest list, reported to include up to 500 people including many with political and economic clout, raised questions about whether or not the party should have been disclosed.

I started a thread on this because it was not one of the public concerts in DC, and was very secret. But the thread got shut down! I don't think CNN has an article about this.

jjazznola said:

---/--I do not like D'Angelo cd and love AOA and I know plenty of people who feel the same. D is not catching P now and was not catching him 15 years ago. Every show P does has different arrangements so you are not seeing the same show and he is not going to charge a couple hundred dollars and not do songs people want to hear.

laurarichardson said:

jjazznola said:

We are talking about right now! D'Angelo is playing most of his great new album plus he is at the point in his career as Prince was when Dirty Mind, his 3rd album came out. His band absolutely blows away the band Prince has been using for a few years now. If Prince played mostly new songs, most fans would not even want to go including myself. I'll repeat: Black Messiah is WAY better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. I cannot wait to hear his upcoming companion album. Prince? I could care less if he ever puts out another album after the last 5 or 6 duds, especially PE which at times is embarrassingly bad. And maybe no one told you but he went back to calling himself Prince MANY years ago.

---/--I do not like D'Angelo cd and love AOA and I know plenty of people who feel the same. D is not catching P now and was not catching him 15 years ago. Every show P does has different arrangements so you are not seeing the same show and he is not going to charge a couple hundred dollars and not do songs people want to hear.

Well, sales figures for the two albums tell a much different story. D'Angelo will most likely be up for multiple Grammys, he won The Village Voice poll for album of the year and has garnered rave reviews for the album and his tour. Like I said, I wish Prince was still the man but I've seen both recently and the difference is great. Basically D'Angelo is now and Prince is part of the past. As for Prince playing the hits, I agree but why the exact same ones for years now? He has plenty more that he rarely or never plays. Plenty of his fans feel the same way. "Every show P does has different arrangements" That is simply not true.

jjazznola said:

Once was ok but for years and years? His setlists have been stale for years.

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bashraka said:

Zannaloaf said:

Symbol didnt do those shows- Prince did.
Maybe that's the problem.
McCartney is older than Prince and his records are better imo and takes far more interesting risks muisclaly- live and studio. So age is not the issue.

That's a good point. Prince should take inspiration from a peer who not only has his own sound and identity but similar creative arc. Sting to me is 7 years older than Prince and Sting continues to record challenging albums with songs that are out of the norm from his previous albums. He takes creative risks like recording with an orchestra and writing musically adventurous compositions. "Last Ship" and "Sacred Love" don't compare to his best albums lime Ten Summoner's Tales, Soul Cages and Nothing Like The Sun, but he doesn't let a fickle musical marketplace determine how he approaches music. Prince is capable of one last great album regardless of how it sells. When he released The Rainbow Children, he toured behind that music with One Nite Alone Tour. Prince's albums since Musicology has been better than average but Prince's talent is far from average and far superior than D'angelo, Bilal or any other artist folks on Okayplayer and here put on a pedestal. If 3RDEYEGIRL records another album, I hope he builds on the sound of that band during the Live Out Loud Tour with tightened songwriting.

Prince is capable of one last great album? I'd love to hear it but not sure why you think this to be true. Prince's albums since Musicology has been better than average? I completely disagree. They have been way below average. 3121, Planet Earth, LotusFlow3r, MPLSoUND & 20Ten are spotty at best. Each has maybe a decent song or two but nothing new and zero classics. Just like Musicology. (I made one good mix cd out of all of them)PE is at times embarrassingly bad but does have a couple of ok songs. AOA is just boring to my ears. Up until these 3EG tours his live shows were still great including The Musicology& W2A Tours. These shows lately are fun but pale in comparison to his 80s & early 90s peak.

Prince > D'Angelo

Period.

3rdeyedude said:

jjazznola said:

I have been a Prince fan since the early 80s and I have seen him around 25 times, on every US tour except ONO including last night's early show. These days I would rather see D"Angelo. His band completely blows awy 3EG who is one of the weakest bands that Prince has ever has. They are not funky at all. I just do not get why he hold on to this gimmick. Plus, D'Angelo does not do those idiotic sampler sets! Don't get me wrong, Prince is the originator and D'Angelo is the student but Black Messiah is better than anything that Prince has put out in decades. Those two latest albums were such a disappointment. He really does seem washed up when it comes to making new music. And look at these setlists. Cool/Don't Stop Until you Get Enough? Once was ok but for years and years? His setlists have been stale for years.

I honestly did not understand all the hype about D'Angelo. But now I do, after watching him at Bonnaroo last night. And as much as I love Prince, I think now too I would rather see D'Angelo. His band is on fire. www.vibe.com/2015/06/dang...aroo-2015/ Can you imagine if they got together and did a world tour? I bet Prince would be afraid of that though.

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yeah, thanks for posting that link! I caught the D'Angelo show too, and while it wasn't perfect, the great parts were GREAT. I think Prince is better than D'Angelo in the sense that Prince can sing and play better, but D'Angelo is doing exactly what I wish Prince would do. That is, D'Angelo makes albums that have interesting production, he plays shows with great musicians, and he plays long, very energetic jams.

BreakfastCanWait said:

Prince > D'Angelo Period.

Over their entire careers? Prince by a mile. These days? D'Angelo, who has a killer album, band & tour right now. Prince is pretty much just an oldies act, barely touring with one of the weakest bands he has ever had. I've seen them both very recently (Prince last night, D'Angelo in March and will see him again next Sunday) and I have seen Prince around 25 times. D'Angelo is not the same guy from the 90s. He has taken it up to a whole nother level.

After the Musicology Tour, which was very successful, something changed with Prince. I'm not sure what it was, but his setlist has been the same for 10 years. He has 35 plus studio albums, but he only plays the same 15 or 20 songs with slightly different arrangements. His shows have gotten boring and only are meant for those who have never seen him before.

jjazznola said:

D'Angelo can do nothing musically on par with Prince, to argue otherwise is pure foolishness

jjazznola said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

It's simply not fair to compare D'angelo to . It's just NOT! has over 35 ALBUMS in his legacy. He is a living LEGEND! Eye will NOT let U do it! Even though D'angelo did blow me away last week. D & his band was simply AMAZING!!!

But was a HEAVY influence throughout the show. "Black Messiah" sounded excellent live. D sounded just as great as he did everytime I've seen him here before. But he still can't touch . He uses his influence well though.

His name is Prince you clown! "Eye will NOT let U do it!" Really? Then just go away, fanboy! You and your stupid writing and purple print. And allthough I think he is one of the alltime greats, a majority of those "35 albums" are pretty weak.

Eye am NOT going anywhere! If U not happy with ? U go away & NEVER come back!!!

ethanthomas said:

jjazznola said:

Over their entire careers? Prince by a mile. These days? D'Angelo, who has a killer album, band & tour right now. Prince is pretty much just an oldies act, barely touring with one of the weakest bands he has ever had. I've seen them both very recently (Prince last night, D'Angelo in March and will see him again next Sunday) and I have seen Prince around 25 times. D'Angelo is not the same guy from the 90s. He has taken it up to a whole nother level.

D'Angelo can do nothing musically on par with Prince, to argue otherwise is pure foolishness

Especially when D'angelo jocks anyone who has ever been in Prince's camp from Jesse Johnson, Alan and Eric Leeds to John Blackwell. No amount of studying Prince's Parade Tour and eighties bootlegs will make D remotely comparable to Prince.

Moderator note:

The purpose of the thread is to discuss the two Prince & 3rdeyegirl Washington performances, post your own reviews if you attended, point to other reviews etc..

If you wish to debate Prince vs D'Angelo, please take it to another thread.

If you choose to resort to: "Just go away" / "U go away & NEVER come back!!!", then take it to org note.

Thank you

langebleu said:

Moderator note:

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So what about the ethics of performing for the POTUS?

A person that selectively does not recognise souvereignty in countries or people.

A person that spills blood for no good reason.

Any ideas?

udo said:

Mitt Romney, you lost...give it up!

OK. Yes his set list is pretty much the same but, members of the band has to learn the majority of his music in order for the set list to expand and maybe, MAYBE it's only the popular ones that he's pushing. 3EG are very talente and you would think that they could play all of P's tunes. Not always possible.

udo said:

His two shows in DC were probably full of people who've done worse shit than Obama ever could imagine. Don't be silly.

If Prince could only perform for morally perfect fans, he'd be playing to empty audiences.