Angelsoncrack said:

just made it all seem elitist and ugly to those of us without tickets and most important of all it detracted from the main thing.....the music and the charity IMHO.

I agree. The reason why I was narked about the fact the threads were being deleted wasn't because I couldn't go or anything, it was simply because it made me feel alienated. Like I wasn't part of a community anymore. I'm not really bothered about it right now, I'm over it. It's all been and gone and is in the past, but I do think that the charities actions werent nessecarily the right ones.

Maybe it wasnt necessarily the charity that requested it not to be publicised by their choice? It was probably Prince himself that felt he didnt want to put it out there so as to not attract too many turning up without tickets thinking it was a Hit & Run then being disappointed, potentially bringing negative publicity to an event that is meant to help someone out giving up his time for Free? (there was still a few who did just start queuing without tickets who were very pissed off when told that wasnt the case) or that if it got into mainstream media Prince could and would have pulled out right up until the last min so they had to tread carefully.

It wasnt so much a secret, the Link was posted on Twitter for tickets, you just had to be quick enough.

They raised alot of money, alot more than had it just been a free for all with tickets going to all fans which was the whole point of it, the majority of them had to go to the right people to raise the amounts they raised with a handful 'token' fans thrown in.

fnksoul said:

Angelsoncrack said:

I agree. The reason why I was narked about the fact the threads were being deleted wasn't because I couldn't go or anything, it was simply because it made me feel alienated. Like I wasn't part of a community anymore. I'm not really bothered about it right now, I'm over it. It's all been and gone and is in the past, but I do think that the charities actions werent nessecarily the right ones.

Maybe it wasnt necessarily the charity that requested it not to be publicised by their choice? It was probably Prince himself

It was the charity, a few people have made posts about it being the charity that requested it be kept secret. The mod Millitant wrote this in a different thread called 'this site has lost the plot':

Some threads appeared here about the event and we were asked to remove them. That's what they wanted and we saw no reason to be antagonistic about it, so we complied.

Well it was a fun night for sure.

Although I kind of expected it to had a "wow" factor, Since Prince didn't play in London for a year, And we all know how much frenzy it was the last time.

The reason,as others said here, is probably that only about 50% of the crowd could be considered as "big fans", And that the truley hard cores were only allowed to stand in the upper level.

It's a small venue and i'm sure Prince and the band saw and heard us chanting, But it took away from the overall "feel" of the show - which led to him sticking to the sure shoots almost all the way through.

Throwing "Purple Rain" as a first song made me hope for a "different" set list, But it wasn't too different from the bigger shows last year.

Highlights for me were "Forever in my life" with Prince and Ida changing instruments through the song,

And "Dreamer" which had one of Prince's long Hendrix-Infused solos.

The band sounded tight, especially Hanna, and Liv added her touch to 2 or 3 songs too.

Sound quality was much better than the koko last year (at least for me).

Not "king's place" top notch sound, But still better.

Luckily we found a nice spot with great view of the stage.

The way KOKO is built, It has not too many good viewing spots on the upper levels.

Snow falling outside after the gig just added a little to the overall "magical" feeling most of us here get after a show.

It was my 10th time seeing him live, and i can understand some people are getting bored with this kind of set list (the sampler set has done it's course imo), But I'm just thankful I had a chance to attend another of his concerts and have a blast.

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[Edited 2/4/15 14:04pm]

Angelsoncrack said:

fnksoul said:

It was the charity, a few people have made posts about it being the charity that requested it be kept secret. The mod Millitant wrote this in a different thread called 'this site has lost the plot':

Some threads appeared here about the event and we were asked to remove them. That's what they wanted and we saw no reason to be antagonistic about it, so we complied.

Likley at Prince's original request though to them, im sure they would have liked to have put something out to bring some press to them before hand.

Better for them to be safe and just not run the risk of a cancellation (like toronto) and the charity would have been the ones that lost out to the tune of a couple of million or something.

BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

.

"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.

More of your incessant whining you claim I'm making up.

He was there to entertain for a fee, for a fundraiser.

It wasn't to promote his latest album or to play Cosmic Day for the first time, as his hardcore fans would like him to do. Since you know AOA/PLEL had next to zero commercial impact and were not played on the radio, why would he think it's a good idea to play an extended selection? He's going to make sure no one can complain he played songs only his most devoted fans know.

I know... the wonderful days when he played almost all an album that was not yet released, you was there, how great it was/now all is lost, etc., etc., etc.

It always amazes me about this place. It seems like the knives r out for Prince these days at the Org...lol.... I've had my issues with the man as well, chief among them not pushing AOA enough and giving it space to breath....I'm down to talk about that.....

But some of the other shit I'm reading here...People again complaining about the set list for a CHARITY EVENT??? Folks claiming that Prince shut down write-ups about the KoKo show, when it was pointed out that the organizers were being protective of their event given that it was in a very small venue that had issues in the past with too many fans rushing to see u know who ...This is why I continue to say some folks in this place for the most part needs to settle down and get out more. Hug your loved one. Fuck your girl/guy...Play in the park. Or listen to some new music....Do something for God's sake...lol

Anyway, here's another review of the show in case anyone cares....Remember people, the outside world really respects and admires the Midget....They really do.

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Five things we learned at last night’s Prince gig at Koko for Autism Rocks

Last night, Prince and 3RDEYEGIRL returned to London, a year to the day since their Hit and Run tour of Spring 2014 sent the capital – and none more so than me personally – in to a frenzied spell of fawning, obsessive behaviour usually reserved for returning deities.

Those shows were our live event of the year, and last night was both a continuation of their brilliance, and a hint at what the future might hold for Prince Rogers Nelson and those sharing his limelight. Here are a few things that dawned on us during the two hours we spent in his company:

There are still plenty of folks in London who want to see Prince

Last night was organised by Autism Rocks, a seemingly relatively new charity whose aim is to fund research in to Autism with the help of the music industry. It was a ticketed, invite only, decidedly secretive affair that wasn’t even widely known to Prince lunatics (the kind who actually post on frighteningly intense message boards like prince.org, rather than just lurk on them, like me) until merely hours before it happened. And yet, once word was out, queues once again formed from Koko in Mornington Crescent at least half way up to Camden Town, full of hopeful but ticketless fans undaunted by the prospect of waiting hours in the near snow for a glimpse of Prince. Would he play two sets, as he did on many nights of the Hit and Run tour? Could people just make a donation on the door? What even was the ticket situation? Nobody seemed to know. All part of the fun.

Prince is determined you will have a really, really brilliant time

As it turned out, this time, you really weren’t getting in without an invite – no matter how long you’d stood in the cold, or how many verses of “Electric Intercourse” you could recite. Such was the nature of the evening, many of the crowd seemed, shall we say, not your typical gig goer, even less your typical Prince fan. Though the ‘golden circle’ (imagine that, at Koko!) contained a few blissfully bewildered writers such as myself, its population largely numbered genuinely bewildered fellows in suits, as well as a few celeb spots like DJ Zane Lowe and comedian Sean Locke (who, to his credit, was going fucking mental the whole time). So used to preaching to the converted, this was the first time I’ve ever seen Prince have to really work a crowd, and in doing so he pulled out every stop, as if affronted by the idea that there might be a human on Earth who’d rather be somewhere else. “We’re going to play fourteen hits”, he began before launching in to “Let’s Go Crazy”. “And then, if you’re still standing, we’ll give you some more”.

He played 27 hits.

Glastonbury is still on the cards

February might be a little early to be talking Glastonbury warm ups, but hear me out here. Though the personnel and last-minute announcements remained in common, last night differed from the Hit and Run tour in one major respect; this was all about the hits. Whereas 2014’s shows featured their fair share of classics, often they were treated to drastic but magical reinterpretations, or featured only in snippets where Prince acted like the greatest wedding DJ ever, dropping a verse of “Diamonds and Pearls” here and “Do Me Baby” there, often delivered without the band’s involvement at all. Last night – a statement of intent if ever there was one – he started with “Purple Rain”, for fuck’s sake. A full band version. As were the renditions of “Kiss”, “When Doves Cry”, “1999”, “Little Red Corvette” and “Sign O’ The Times”. Though guessing what Prince will do next is like trying to predict exact the date of your own death, the Glasto rumours won’t go away, and the band are being put through their paces, readying themselves for the world’s biggest stages. They don’t come bigger than Pilton Farm on a Saturday night.

Playing it safe doesn’t mean playing it boring

Many Prince scholars, Matt Thorne among them, would rather Prince ditched most of the hits all together. But while I’ve seen him play most of these songs before, there was no feeling of going through the motions to last night. Perhaps it owed to the fact that he really had to fully inhabit and push the songs on a crowd whose usual Monday evening activity of choice probably wasn’t dancing to a fearsome funk-rock band at midnight. Perhaps it was down to the new band, one who’d wowed the world with their contemporary material but had never really been given much of a crack at their leader’s back catalogue in its original form. Standards like “Little Red Corvette” and “Controversy” were tight in delivery but loose in structure, allowing for the band to show their considerable chops in sprawling but not aimless jam sessions. “Hot Thing” and “Forever In My Life” were equal parts menace and seduction, “U Got The Look” and “Pop Life” equal parts joy and joy. The whole thing felt fresh and alive, despite some of the songs being in their 30s.

There’s life in 3RDEYEGIRL yet

I’d been worried about the status of 3RDEYEGIRL. Though the Hit and Run tour was rapturously received, reviews for Plectrum Electrum – the album on which they shared equal billing with Prince – paled alongside those for the simultaneously released solo effort Art Official Age. Their really rather fun Twitter and Instagram accounts disappeared, and the shows dried up. Prince was apparently in discussion with Warner Bros. about a 30th anniversary re-master and reissue of Purple Rain, which – knowing the amount of incredible songs written but scrapped for the album – would have been really amazing. Of course, it’s yet to materialise. Just as Prince seemed to be in the biggest critical purple patch he’d enjoyed for at least 20 years, the momentum hit a brick wall.

What was heartening about last night was that it showed how this excellent band could be part of Prince’s future and his past. With the addition of Josh Welton on keyboards and backing vocals from The New Power Generation’s Liv Warfield, they showed a lighter touch as musicians that allowed other players in to the fold without diluting their power. They not only knew the hits, they clearly loved them, and improved them. Such is the skill and endearing personality of this band, if they get the Glastonbury slot I think they deserve, those counting themselves as casual fans can expect to be fully signed up devotees. Personally, if my Prince admiration increases any more after last night, I’m likely to see out my days dribbling in a padded cell. So I probably won’t go to Glastonbury, just in case.

Setlist:

Purple Rain
Let's Go Crazy
Take me With U
U Got The Look
FUNKNROLL
Controversy
1999
Little Red Corvette
Nothing Compares 2 U
Kiss
Only Love (Paloma Faith cover)
When Doves Cry
Sign O' The Times
Hot Thing
Pop Life (with A Love Bizzarre/Darling Nikki intros)
I Would Die 4 U
Forever In My Life
Housequake
Guitar (with U Know/Gold Standard/If I Was Ur Girlfriend intros)
PLECTRUMELECTRUM
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The Breakdown
What's My Name?
Stratus
Dreamer (with Sometimes It Snows In April intro)
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Let's Work
Don't Stop Till You Get Enough (Michael Jackson cover)
Cool

"...secretive affair that wasn’t even widely known to Prince lunatics (the kind who actually post on frighteningly intense message boards like prince.org, rather than just lurk on them, like me)"

Noodled24 said:

^ It wasn't for fans. It was a fund raising event. They wanted the hits.

aiden said:

A great gig! My 21st prince concert So I decided to get there at around 7.30, 30 mins before the doors were supposed to open.. Maybe they did for the celebs but I seem to remember queuing for well over an hour.. Excited to get in I was pretty upset to find out we were only allowed upstairs and most of the good spots had already been taken by peeps who must have been in the Queue earlier...

UAKE (including 3rd Eye solos) U KNOW (intro) THE GOLD STANDARD (sample) IF I WAS UR GIRLFRIEND (short) GUITAR PLECTRUMELECTRUM "Thank you London Encore 1 "This is dedicated to a friend of mine" - P THE BREAKDOWN (in full P at Piano) WHATS MY NAME? STRATUS SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL (abandoned after 2 lines) DREAMER Encore 2 Prince "we gotta go after this one" LETS WORK

DONT STOP TIL U GET ENOUGH

During this he shouted "You know who wrote this? COOL [Edited 2/4/15 15:44pm]

Can't he do a different Michael Jackson song, he has played this song in the last few years like it's the only MJ song he likes!!!

[Edited 2/5/15 13:43pm]

TheEnglishGent said:

metallicjigolo said:

TheEnglishGent said:

warning2all said:

That set list is definitely delivering the hits, giving them what the crowd wants- makes sense- no "Art Official Cage" to be heard--- But the material is certainly leaning toward "Revolution" songs, eh? Must be on his mind-

Well, except for Funknroll, U Know, The Gold Standard and The Breakdown. So apart from nearly half the album being acknowledged there was nothing from AOA.

warning2all said:

metallicjigolo said:

Once again, talking about the track, Art Official Cage" as clearly written, not "Art Official Age", the album. People here are so quick to make people look stupid, they don't actually read, or compute the insinuation~

But you did say, "delivering the hits, giving them what they want". So while specifically mentioning Art Official Cage, the wider implication is that the new stuff is not being played .

langebleu said:

Here's the setlist:

http://www.princevault.co...uary,_2015

what has happened to princevault.com... ??

when I try to get acess to this site I read:

"Forbidden

You do not have permission to access this document".

It's being looked into.

thanks for your reply Langebleu.

I was a second afraid it was the purple police or something

thedance said:

thanks for your reply Langebleu.

I was a second afraid it was the purple police or something

See http://prince.org/msg/7/414114

mikeyaddict said:

having heard the show, I really hope that this was just for the charity and he gets his band to learn/play some new material for any future shows. does anyone know what song he was singing during Lets Work? Or was i just hearing things.

Rebeljuice said:

How ridiculous. So rather than raise awareness of autism with several thousand people, keep it secret and just raise awareness with a few hundred that attended. Great strategy.

And who amongst the Org police stopped any reporting on it on the org, even though the secret was leaked? What law states something cannot be reported on until it is made official? Leaks are reported on all the time by the media.

Fucking Org. Its just nonsense. Not being able to post links to bootlegs is one thing, but squashing links to YouTube and news leaks is another thing entirely. Have none of the mods got any balls left at all? Prince aint going to shut the site down for not keeping his silly little secret. He has no grounds for that at all.

I agree.

I've only been on here for two days, & I'm already ready to cancel my account..

I thought this was a place where we could be open & free to discuss Prince & other artist, with room 4 mistakes at least..

My gosh! The hypocrisy here man!

Don't mention bootlegs, leaks, etc., or you're banned..

oh well!! I aint no kid, so I could really care less..

Whatever floats your boat..

People who power trip on a website can't possibly have a life...or they are mad at some1 else & cannot standup to them, so they come here where they feel like they are superior, & take out their anger on us because they know we are hungry to hear what Prince is up to, like any normal fan would be..

Basically taking advantage of our vulnerability concerning Prince.

Sounds pretty devilish to me..hmmm..

So what can we do, oh I know, bad mouth Prince & others, that's allowed..that's right, which is probably his main reason 4 shutdowns..

But I look in the picture gallery & I see dozens of bootleg pictures & stuff..uh-huh..

So yea, this site is creepy man..

I thought it was a friendly site..

Guess I was wrong that time..

What's the use of coming here, if one cannot relax, share each others likes, & become friends?

Now I see why folks are so negative here, duh, it's coming from the creators of the sight.

That aint right, that's a false perseption..

Just put at the top of the page:

Prince.org "We Are Mean, & We Don't Like U, Enter At Your Own Risk!"

I will be sure 2 spread the word to other Prince fans, not to come here.. it's a waste of time..

I remember reading a negative comment on the net about Prince.org a few months ago, but I chose not to believe it...

well, whoever wrote that comment knew exactly what they were talkin bout..

No love here whatsoever, none in this world actually, it's getting pretty sad too..

And besides, this site is not even current with Prince anyways..

Housquake.com & Dr. Funkenberry at least stay current..

Oops!! did I say those name?

I'm bout to get banned aint I ..

I 4got, freedom of speech is not welcomed here...

calciumpaul said:

Can someone please explain why we can't talk about something WHEN ITS ALREADY UNDER WAY OR ALREADY HAPPENED!?

I feel u..

But pics of Prince are allowed to be used as profile pics..

And bootleg pics & thangs are allowed in the gallery too..

hmmm..

paisleyemp said:

maplenpg said:

My thoughts exactly. I have no problem with Prince doing a charity gig and not wanting thousands of screaming fans around but did the celebs there donate any more than their entry fee? How much did the gig actually raise? Does Prince really dislike his (mere mortal) fans so much that he doesn't want them at his shows? Even worse, he doesn't even want us 'mere mortals' to discuss it!

Using proper PR techniques Prince could convince thousands of fans to support the charity. I salute anyone for raising money (and awareness) for charity but this isn't the way to do it. As it stands right now I'll put my money elsewhere other than Autism Rocks and thats a shame.

Oh and geez...even those on the org who kindly posted the setlist had their posts deleted. What was to be gained by doing that?????????????

I don't like all the bitchin on the org but honestly.....sometimes the man asks for it.

yea, this site is for the birds..

maybe we should get together & start are own Prince website..

we can't even breathe hear, but the creators do the very thang that they stop us from doing..hmm

calciumpaul said:

The problem isn't Prince or Autism Rocks for not wanting a roadblock. Its the Org for not having the balls to say "Its leaked so we will report it". Can we have an official response please

right..

this site aint cool at all...

Angelsoncrack said:

TheEnglishGent said:

The thing is, this is supposed to raise awareness for autism. How the hell is that supposed to happen if he doesn't want anyone to know about it?

What would be good was if Prince sold the recording of the show online and gave all the proceeds to teh autism charity. That would raise some awareness.

see this pisses me off, often I find charity gigs like this just an excuse for a celebrity get together rather than actually supporting it's cause. Also why did the thread from 'concerts' get deleted when the gig has already happened???

because people are hateful 4 no reason at all..

they are getting a thrill outta this, I promise u..

trax said:

He must really like that stupid sampler set crap!! That part just ruins his shows nowadays for me. Its just laziness to me and a way to kill time without doing anything

exactly..

What happened to playing the song on instruments?

After all he said he doesn't like samples....hmm

So he cannot really criticize lip synching if he is sampling...

MIRvmn said:

Astasheiks said:

Link says U KNOW (intro)
THE GOLD STANDARD (sample). Only intro and sample of these songs.

yes he can't even be bothered to play the news songs in full, thats how much he loves his project. A live version of The Gold Standard would have been awesome. No need to get the bootleg from this show (if it shows up) [Edited 2/3/15 15:03pm]

I'm growing out of wishing from Prince anymore..

He teases way too much..

It was cool in the 80's, but now, it aint to cool anymore..

He aint gonna bring it like he used to, even tho I'm sure he could..

He doesn't do it because he knows we want him to..

seems like he is using his gift more as a tool of manipulation than to be a blessing to others..

which is probably why he cannot do the splits anymore..

God does not like ugliness..

MIRvmn said:

Astasheiks said:

Link says U KNOW (intro)
THE GOLD STANDARD (sample). Only intro and sample of these songs.

yes he can't even be bothered to play the news songs in full, thats how much he loves his project. A live version of The Gold Standard would have been awesome. No need to get the bootleg from this show (if it shows up) [Edited 2/3/15 15:03pm]

I'm growing out of wishing from Prince anymore..

He teases way too much..

It was cool in the 80's, but now, it aint to cool anymore..

He aint gonna bring it like he used to, even tho I'm sure he could..

He doesn't do it because he knows we want him to..

seems like he is using his gift more as a tool of manipulation than to be a blessing to others..

which is probably why he cannot do the splits anymore..

God does not like ugliness..

BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

.

"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.

sounds kinda of like hypocrisy, doesn't it?

Like Billy Sparxx said "Kidd, u not bringing them in like you used to!"

fnksoul said:

BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

.

"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.

Got to agree with you here, he's the main culprit for saying he has no interest in looking back, although this show was aimed at a mainly Corporate Crowd, with some Fans thrown in for the Atmosphere. Which possibly justifies a hit packed show.

I dont understand why he originally planned to include a handful of new tracks he changed his mind though?

Maybe he isnt so Confident in his new material?

Prince is goin in circles...

antonb said:

prince does mix it up, more then any other performer, from show to show. But what happened to the day when he would come back every year with a brand new show? Has his energy and ideas run out?The band and prince say they rehearse hours on end, all the time, so why not play some new stuff from aoa or plectrum electrum? I feel the material is strong enough to play live,so i dont get it. Its the one question i would like to ask him.

[Edited 2/4/15 4:44am]

seems like he is trying to make sure we understand that he doesn't have to do what we want..

which is a bit childish..

We know he has a mind of his own, but why play games with people who love his music, the few that are left anyways?

He has plenty of great music to choose from, but he is either very parnoid, very stingy, or either doing an awfully lot of cocaine, which also makes some people very paranoid as well..

Spoiled children will tell u NO because they know u want them to say YES to somethang..

It's all about control..

What can sadly happen is Prince could endup holding out so long, that one day somethang drastic could happen to him(we hope not) which would put him in position where he will not be able to do what he should have been doing..

then it will be too late..