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Reply #60 posted 02/03/15 8:31pm

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Reply #61 posted 02/03/15 8:46pm

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Damn the charity gig I went to was like an aftershow but then again it was the later of a two gig event at the Fillmore. This one sounds very by the numbers, been there done that.
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Reply #62 posted 02/04/15 12:17am

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yoda i cant talk about it
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Reply #63 posted 02/04/15 12:38am

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Funk N Roll - AOA Version sounded brilliant live! Miles better than it does on the Album


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Reply #64 posted 02/04/15 2:19am

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"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

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"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.

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Reply #65 posted 02/04/15 2:23am

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Madhouse6 said:

to be honest the gig was not for raising awareness of Autism. it was to raise funds for research.

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So they did a gig in a SMALL CLUB? Perhaps this "Autism Rocks" charity is more an opportunity for rich folks to see exclusive gigs -- and not even to enjoy the music, but simply to show "look what I have access to".

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i really dont understand why people are so bitter about how a charity wants to handle their affairs.

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Because plenty of charities are scams.

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Reply #66 posted 02/04/15 2:34am

fnksoul

BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

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"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.



Got to agree with you here, he's the main culprit for saying he has no interest in looking back, although this show was aimed at a mainly Corporate Crowd, with some Fans thrown in for the Atmosphere. Which possibly justifies a hit packed show.

I dont understand why he originally planned to include a handful of new tracks he changed his mind though?

Maybe he isnt so Confident in his new material?


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Reply #67 posted 02/04/15 3:07am

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BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

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"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.

....and you post the same criticisms again, and again, and again.....

Imititation is the sincerest form of flaterry?

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Reply #68 posted 02/04/15 3:11am

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The crowd was pretty feisty / drunk / boisterous / corporate.

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While I'd much rather he'd had stuck to the original set-list - a good performer can read an audience - and in this case, he probably made a sensible decision.

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That said, I'd love him to play just the newer stuff - a tour a la One Night Alone would be awesome.

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fnksoul said:

BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.

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"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.



Got to agree with you here, he's the main culprit for saying he has no interest in looking back, although this show was aimed at a mainly Corporate Crowd, with some Fans thrown in for the Atmosphere. Which possibly justifies a hit packed show.

I dont understand why he originally planned to include a handful of new tracks he changed his mind though?

Maybe he isnt so Confident in his new material?


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Reply #69 posted 02/04/15 3:16am

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SchlomoThaHomo said:




TheEnglishGent said:



Well, except for Funknroll, U Know, The Gold Standard and The Breakdown. So apart from nearly half the album being acknowledged there was nothing from AOA.



lol To be fair, warning2all was referencing the title track, and not the album, which makes his assessment 100% accurate.



Not sure warning2all knew he was referencing the title track, and not the album...



Yes, I was referencing the Title Track- which would be indulgent to play- he mostly gave the crowd what they wanted to hear, (the AOA songs he did touch on are "more general-audience friendly")
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Reply #70 posted 02/04/15 4:14am

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BartVanHemelen said:

"Prince doesn't live in the past," they say. Yet this setlist could just as easily have been from a concert a year ago.


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"My band knows 300+ songs," he claims. Yet they play the same dozen or so songs over and over again.


What?
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Reply #71 posted 02/04/15 4:35am

antonb

prince does mix it up, more then any other performer, from show to show. But what happened to the day when he would come back every year with a brand new show? Has his energy and ideas run out?The band and prince say they rehearse hours on end, all the time, so why not play some new stuff from aoa or plectrum electrum? I feel the material is strong enough to play live,so i dont get it. Its the one question i would like to ask him.

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Reply #72 posted 02/04/15 5:07am

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jasontate said:

This whole thing is bloody ridiculous. I work with various charities and raising awareness by keeping things secret is just daft.

A friend of mine got a ticket. It wasn't just celebs and it wasn't just for people with deep pockets. It was for people who knew people, simple as that. After all, tickets for Lenny last year were going for pocket change.

The thing about people queuing on the streets is also an excuse imo.

Why not tell the world about it, so that Autism Rocks gets some full on publicity?

It's not that difficult ffs.

to be honest the gig was not for raising awareness of Autism. it was to raise funds for research. i really dont understand why people are so bitter about how a charity wants to handle their affairs. some people need to grow up!! i dont beielve its an issue discussing anything post concert and the moderators probably need to go back to the charity for clairification as its already in the papers. I went to Lenny and i went last night and the celebs where there on VIP packages and talking to other fund raisers last night they said they are impressed how Sanjay Shah and his team have managed to raise so much in the last year. So you didnt get to see Prince - boohoo!! but the charity raised a lot of money and thats what matters! hire a venue, security and pay Prince asome money and then sell tickets!


Regardless whether for awareness or research the idea is surely to raise as much money as possible. If I were in charge I'd be doing many Autism Rocks concerts in stadiums with a range of different artists. That way you engage everyone. You can do VIP for the celebs at a larger venue as well. Or what about a festival? It could be off the scale!

By not allowing people to even talk about an event you alienate people. Alienated people do not give money to said charity. And yes, I might not have as much money as the celebs do but I am happy to give to worthy causes if I think they deserve & value my money. Nothing about Autism Rocks has given me cause to even consider parting with my cash. Sanjay Shah could become a huge name in the music and charity industry if he engaged with the general public (many of whom didn't know about tickets until they were sold out).

Finally, Prince is alleged to be vegan. I hope he's checked that the research doesn't have any animal involvement (I haven't checked but I would if I were Prince).

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Reply #73 posted 02/04/15 5:14am

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There was a silent auction where most of the items started at a few grand.

I think the secrecy was probably to attract more celebrities, and probably more famous ones who don't really want to be gawped at by loads of members of the public. Those people are more likely to drop £10k on a signed picture of John Lennon or Jimi Hendrix and that sort of stuff.

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Reply #74 posted 02/04/15 5:23am

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Prince is vegetarian; he eats eggs and cheese and honey.
What?
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Reply #75 posted 02/04/15 5:24am

antonb

maplenpg said:

Madhouse6 said:

to be honest the gig was not for raising awareness of Autism. it was to raise funds for research. i really dont understand why people are so bitter about how a charity wants to handle their affairs. some people need to grow up!! i dont beielve its an issue discussing anything post concert and the moderators probably need to go back to the charity for clairification as its already in the papers. I went to Lenny and i went last night and the celebs where there on VIP packages and talking to other fund raisers last night they said they are impressed how Sanjay Shah and his team have managed to raise so much in the last year. So you didnt get to see Prince - boohoo!! but the charity raised a lot of money and thats what matters! hire a venue, security and pay Prince asome money and then sell tickets!


Regardless whether for awareness or research the idea is surely to raise as much money as possible. If I were in charge I'd be doing many Autism Rocks concerts in stadiums with a range of different artists. That way you engage everyone. You can do VIP for the celebs at a larger venue as well. Or what about a festival? It could be off the scale!

By not allowing people to even talk about an event you alienate people. Alienated people do not give money to said charity. And yes, I might not have as much money as the celebs do but I am happy to give to worthy causes if I think they deserve & value my money. Nothing about Autism Rocks has given me cause to even consider parting with my cash. Sanjay Shah could become a huge name in the music and charity industry if he engaged with the general public (many of whom didn't know about tickets until they were sold out).

Finally, Prince is alleged to be vegan. I hope he's checked that the research doesn't have any animal involvement (I haven't checked but I would if I were Prince).

this is so true, thats what i have been getting at, but not clever enough to put into those words! As for the point with the celebrities , thats why they get away with a lot of perks etc, for the attitude that militant shows in that post.

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Reply #76 posted 02/04/15 5:31am

antonb

also dont want to upset the apple cart, but was prince and the band paid for this? if so , i where did the money come from? Because prince aint cheap!

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Reply #77 posted 02/04/15 5:35am

fnksoul

maplenpg said:

Madhouse6 said:

to be honest the gig was not for raising awareness of Autism. it was to raise funds for research. i really dont understand why people are so bitter about how a charity wants to handle their affairs. some people need to grow up!! i dont beielve its an issue discussing anything post concert and the moderators probably need to go back to the charity for clairification as its already in the papers. I went to Lenny and i went last night and the celebs where there on VIP packages and talking to other fund raisers last night they said they are impressed how Sanjay Shah and his team have managed to raise so much in the last year. So you didnt get to see Prince - boohoo!! but the charity raised a lot of money and thats what matters! hire a venue, security and pay Prince asome money and then sell tickets!


Regardless whether for awareness or research the idea is surely to raise as much money as possible. If I were in charge I'd be doing many Autism Rocks concerts in stadiums with a range of different artists. That way you engage everyone. You can do VIP for the celebs at a larger venue as well. Or what about a festival? It could be off the scale!

By not allowing people to even talk about an event you alienate people. Alienated people do not give money to said charity. And yes, I might not have as much money as the celebs do but I am happy to give to worthy causes if I think they deserve & value my money. Nothing about Autism Rocks has given me cause to even consider parting with my cash. Sanjay Shah could become a huge name in the music and charity industry if he engaged with the general public (many of whom didn't know about tickets until they were sold out).

Finally, Prince is alleged to be vegan. I hope he's checked that the research doesn't have any animal involvement (I haven't checked but I would if I were Prince).



Why? The last event at Cafe De Paris was for around 700 people and raised over £2m.

The guy who runs the charity has money, alot of it already, and he paid for everything out of his own pocket (venue, prince's expenses etc) with 100% of the proceeds going to the charity.

The money is raised by the Silent auction and donation from the select "big names" and general rich people there, not us peasants who donated £50 to be there. We were there to add to the atmosphere only in my opinion.

Dont forget the charity is still only around 12 months old so maybe the events will grow, but there isnt much need if they can raise so much from shows of this size.

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Reply #78 posted 02/04/15 5:38am

fnksoul

antonb said:

also dont want to upset the apple cart, but was prince and the band paid for this? if so , i where did the money come from? Because prince aint cheap!



No - Sanjay the Chairty owner covered Prince's 'Expenses' (Travel, Crew, accomodation etc... )out of his own pocket.

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Reply #79 posted 02/04/15 5:43am

antonb

How do you know all this? do you know the guy who runs it? Who gave you this info? The problem for me is, i know someone who runs a charity on peanuts, its bloody hard work. I guess money really does talk.

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Reply #80 posted 02/04/15 5:59am

fnksoul

antonb said:

How do you know all this? do you know the guy who runs it? Who gave you this info? The problem for me is, i know someone who runs a charity on peanuts, its bloody hard work. I guess money really does talk.



He's done a few interviews where he has gone into detail, he also said at the start of the night on monday before he shown a short film that he paid for it all himself.

Google "Friday magazine Autism Rocks" its the first result I think. He runs the events between Manchester & Dubai.


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Reply #81 posted 02/04/15 6:10am

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to be fair, i just read an interview with the owner, and he seems genuine. And he also said that prince played the concert last year for free, just his demands were met, like purple curtains and stuff, so maybe i need to shut up!

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Reply #82 posted 02/04/15 6:37am

fnksoul

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to be fair, i just read an interview with the owner, and he seems genuine. And he also said that prince played the concert last year for free, just his demands were met, like purple curtains and stuff, so maybe i need to shut up!



Yeah he seems to have some good intentions, it's something close to him and his family. There is going to be a short film being released with his son in that will do the rounds of the Film festivals and things he said.

I guess Autism is something close to Prince too for him to agree to do 3 shows in the space of 12 months for free (Dubai is for the same charity)

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Reply #83 posted 02/04/15 9:05am

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There was a silent auction where most of the items started at a few grand.

I think the secrecy was probably to attract more celebrities, and probably more famous ones who don't really want to be gawped at by loads of members of the public. Those people are more likely to drop £10k on a signed picture of John Lennon or Jimi Hendrix and that sort of stuff.



That's sort of my point though, it's not just celebs with money. There are many, many people who will pay top drawer money for stuff - only difference is that they aren't famous (and don't necessarily want to flaunt it).

It was the not being able to talk about it that perplexed me though. I honestly think it did more harm than good. Yes, celebs should be able to have a good night out without being gawped at (actually though, I think it's part of the territory) but the way it was done with threads deleted etc... just made it all seem elitist and ugly to those of us without tickets and most important of all it detracted from the main thing.....the music and the charity IMHO.



Anyway, enough bitchin from me...it was what it was. Far more important stuff is happening around the world right now than this.

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Reply #84 posted 02/04/15 9:33am

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just made it all seem elitist and ugly to those of us without tickets and most important of all it detracted from the main thing.....the music and the charity IMHO.

yeahthat I agree. The reason why I was narked about the fact the threads were being deleted wasn't because I couldn't go or anything, it was simply because it made me feel alienated. Like I wasn't part of a community anymore. I'm not really bothered about it right now, I'm over it. It's all been and gone and is in the past, but I do think that the charities actions werent nessecarily the right ones.

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Reply #85 posted 02/04/15 11:18am

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Finally, Prince is alleged to be vegan.

No, he's not. He once was in the 90ies, but that was then, this is now.

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Reply #86 posted 02/04/15 11:40am

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The sight of Nick Clegg our Deputy Prime Minister rocking out to Hot Thing will remain with me for a long time!

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Reply #87 posted 02/04/15 11:43am

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That's sort of my point though, it's not just celebs with money. There are many, many people who will pay top drawer money for stuff - only difference is that they aren't famous (and don't necessarily want to flaunt it).

It was the not being able to talk about it that perplexed me though. I honestly think it did more harm than good. Yes, celebs should be able to have a good night out without being gawped at (actually though, I think it's part of the territory) but the way it was done with threads deleted etc... just made it all seem elitist and ugly to those of us without tickets and most important of all it detracted from the main thing.....the music and the charity IMHO.



Anyway, enough bitchin from me...it was what it was. Far more important stuff is happening around the world right now than this.


You think those celebs and millionaires who attended the charity fundrasier gave less money than they would have, had people been able to talk about the event before it happened here on Prince.org?? That's quite a leap to make.

Of course it was elitist. If you don't have 10k to splash then you're not invited. Simple. If you do have 10k to hand over to a charity then you could have made a call and got a ticket.

There have been loads of reviews and publicity for both Prince and Autism Rocks.

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Reply #88 posted 02/04/15 11:46am

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reposting this for terrig

http://www.theguardian.co...tism-rocks

Prince review – ‘What we’re going to do right now is play 14 hits in a row!’

5/5stars

Koko, London
Prince doesn’t just please the crowd; he lovebombs it. And without the midnight curfew, you suspect he’d just keep on going

Prince live at Koko, London.

If you had the power to put words into Prince’s mouth, you could hardly improve on the ones he speaks at the outset of this intimate fundraiser for the charity Autism Rocks. “What we’re going to do right now is play 14 hits in a row.” He raises his eyebrows, as if amazed by his own generosity. “Fourteen!”

Opening with Purple Rain, he winds up exceeding that number by some distance. Crowd-pleasing is too mild a word for this show. Prince doesn’t just please the crowd; he lovebombs it.

Some superstars seem diminished in small venues, like a blockbuster viewed on an aeroplane seatback screen, but Prince is even more impressive close-up. Dressed in shimmery silver and strings of beads (imagine if Jimi Hendrix had played a galactic priest in an episode of Star Trek), he moves with playful, faultless grace. You could spend the whole two hours just watching his face as he mugs, gurns, smirks and winks, as if finding his own virtuosity hilarious. He has that rare confidence of someone who knows in his bones that he’s the best at what he does, a confidence that passes through arrogance and arrives at a state of sheer joy.

The tight line-up – female trio 3rdeyegirl, a keyboardist and dynamic backing singer Liv Warfield — makes for a lean, hard show with thrilling new funk-rock arrangements. Let’s Go Crazy is as crunchy and riff-driven as AC/DC, the famously minimal Kiss acquires a bassline, and When Doves Cry is pared down to voice and drums, with Prince conducting the crowd in a chant to replace the chorus’s keyboard riff. Other songs are squeezed into giddy medleys or merely teased. After a couple of bars of the notorious Darling Nikki he stops and says with mock outrage: “Do you know what happens if I play that song?” Prince’s sense of humour is perhaps his only underrated quality.

The two encores roam into solo-heavy recent material but only a fool would begrudge him a little muso fun after being hosed with hits for 90 minutes. Prince seems to be enjoying himself so much that, without the midnight curfew, you suspect he’d just keep on going. Throughout the show, the affluent donors in the crowd, including Noel Gallagher and Alan Carr, look dazed with delight, too stunned to play it cool. After a wonderful version of Nothing Compares 2 U, Prince grins and asks: “Was that all right?”

Yes, that was more than all right.

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Reply #89 posted 02/04/15 12:21pm

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Noodled24 said:

maplenpg said:



That's sort of my point though, it's not just celebs with money. There are many, many people who will pay top drawer money for stuff - only difference is that they aren't famous (and don't necessarily want to flaunt it).

It was the not being able to talk about it that perplexed me though. I honestly think it did more harm than good. Yes, celebs should be able to have a good night out without being gawped at (actually though, I think it's part of the territory) but the way it was done with threads deleted etc... just made it all seem elitist and ugly to those of us without tickets and most important of all it detracted from the main thing.....the music and the charity IMHO.



Anyway, enough bitchin from me...it was what it was. Far more important stuff is happening around the world right now than this.


You think those celebs and millionaires who attended the charity fundrasier gave less money than they would have, had people been able to talk about the event before it happened here on Prince.org?? That's quite a leap to make.

Of course it was elitist. If you don't have 10k to splash then you're not invited. Simple. If you do have 10k to hand over to a charity then you could have made a call and got a ticket.

There have been loads of reviews and publicity for both Prince and Autism Rocks.


No, You've mis-interpreted what I said .... what I meant was that if someone famous is a supporter of a charity then often their fans will support the charity too. Not allowing fans to talk about a gig alienated those of us that were genuinely interested in it and detracted from the very reason the gig was held.

I would have happily supported a charity that prince supports if I had been convinced they would welcome my money and spend it well (as I was with #yeswecode). I couldn't have gone to the gig even if I could have got a ticket, that's why I wanted to see what other people were saying about it on here.

And many got tickets for well less than 10K (£50 I believe?). Seems they were the ones that brought the atmosphere to the place biggrin

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