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Reply #30 posted 12/09/11 5:11am

stillwaiting

damosuzuki said:

Sampler set

(MY GOD...can't believe he opened the show with Karaoke!!)

Joy in Repetition with Larry Graham & Maceo Parker

Everyday People

Alphabet Street

Stand

Life

Thank you falletinme

Larry is now gone-As much as I respect Larry as a bass player, "Larry Is Now Gone," has to be nice words for any fan.

Take me with u

raspberry beret

He played Take Me followed by Raspberry beret?????? Wow!!!!! What A Big Surprise!!!! I bet this was epic. I've listened to over 500 Prince shows, and never thought he could be so random and shocking!!!! Keep it Up P!!!!

encore

let's go crazy/delirious

1999

little red corvette

encore 2

kiss

encore 3

controversy

encore 4

beautiful ones

encore 5

disco heat/baby i'm a star

One Song encores? Well, at least he did not just up and leave. Still, this is really odd, and can't possibly make sense to anybody except the Prince Kool Aid Drinkers.

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Reply #31 posted 12/09/11 6:28am

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xLiberiangirl said:

Hmmm. I wonder what JIR sounds like with Larry..

if u have the ona box set and the aftershow with joy in repetition, larry was playing the bass on that one

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #32 posted 12/09/11 6:34am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

xLiberiangirl said:

Hmmm. I wonder what JIR sounds like with Larry..

if u have the ona box set and the aftershow with joy in repetition, larry was playing the bass on that one

Aha! Okay. Didn't knew that.. I don't own the ONA box yet.. so.. thanks!

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Reply #33 posted 12/09/11 6:37am

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Philly76 said:

damosuzuki said:

To the previous poster: not a sellout, but a good crowd. 80% capacity, I'd estimate.

I forgot my watch, but i'd estimate the show started around 8:45, and the arena clock displayed 11:02 at the end.

Set list

Sampler set

When Doves Cry

Nasty Girl (I think)

sott

mbgitw

forever in my life

darling nikki section

hot thing

i would die 4u

housequake

Love Bizarre

Joy in Repetition with Larry Graham & Maceo Parker

Everyday People

Alphabet Street

Stand

Life

Thank you falletinme

Larry is now gone

Take me with u

raspberry beret

cream

don't stop til you get enough

cool

yesterday (blond vocalist)

nothing compares to you

purple rain

encore

let's go crazy/delirious

1999

little red corvette

encore 2

kiss

encore 3

controversy

encore 4

beautiful ones

encore 5

disco heat/baby i'm a star

Boring setlist, same as always.

I hope he can offer something new next time he comes to Europe.

zipped 4 "fear" of being negative and commenting on a concert I wasn't there 2 either voice my thoughts of either the concert was great or not great due 2 just reading a setlist that I have personally heard every single song live previously by either being in the arena or via a bootleg recording of these song. Or the simple fact that I may agree with another orger thus linking myself 2 the "haters".

oh fuck that shit! i agree with what you said about this setlist. I love larry and all but damn prince never seems 2 let Larry focus on his own Graham Central station material other than the Jam or Hair. Like Prince's musical output, Larry has a musical legacy that is more than sly and the family stone material.

and if anyone doesn't like what i have 2 say about these concerts, let me say that get over it. music is subjective 2 the listners ear and if u liked these concerts, good 4 u but not everyone may share your optimism just as much as some that won't agree with mine.

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #34 posted 12/09/11 6:42am

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xLiberiangirl said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

if u have the ona box set and the aftershow with joy in repetition, larry was playing the bass on that one

Aha! Okay. Didn't knew that.. I don't own the ONA box yet.. so.. thanks!

your welcome and if u find the thread about the minneapolis sound streaming sites, this verison with larry is played on there. i hope u get 2 hear it but i will say cause i was there ..DA BOMB

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #35 posted 12/09/11 6:52am

Dalia11

He chose some Great Songs for his set. "Joy in Repetition" is one of my favorite Prince songs.

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Reply #36 posted 12/09/11 7:07am

2elijah

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Sadly, Prince can be the best there is live. This sampler crap and Las Vegas Glitz, and taking some chick he met at a truck stop for a guitar player is not something a real musician like Miles Davis would have ever done. smile

Just dropping in for a sec with a quick note, and not to take the thread off topic. This is not to agree at all with your opinion on how you judge Andy's character, especially since neither of us know her personally, but I think before you make an assumption about what you think any real or great musician would or would not do, well, it always helps to do a little research first. Here's a little something for you on a 'real musician' as you mentioned............the late/great Mr. Miles Davis. Just sayin'...anyway back on topic.

23 year old Betty Mabry (Davis) and Miles Davis

"Miles and Betty were only married for little more than one year, but during that time Betty Davis turned one of the greatest jazz musicians in the world into an innovative genius "

Betty Davis

Betty Mabry-Davis

"In her teens she wrote a song called 'The Cake Of Love', however, it wasn't until 1966 that she went down to the old Electric Circus club where the Chambers Brothers were headlining and presented them with a song, that she had penned, entitled 'Uptown In Harlem'.

The duo included it in their first album for Columbia and Betty's name (Mabry, at the time) appeared on a record for the first time.

Betty then started getting into modelling and became successful in this field, heading fashion shows and being featured in the magazines Seventeen, Ebony and Glamour.Betty soon left this environment and, in 1968, she met and married Miles Davis at the age of 23.

She was one of the first Black models to arrive in London, however, her real passion was music.

By 1971, Betty's own musical career had been revitalised.

She arrived back in New York with the intention of taking some of the songs she had written in London to the group Santana.

Her musical connections enabled her to get some of the best musicians on the West Coast for her first album. These included Larry Graham playing bass and Gregg Errico (Sly Stone's drummer).

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Reply #37 posted 12/09/11 7:18am

2elijah

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http://www.winnipegsun.co...mts-centre

Prince reigns supreme at MTS Centre

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By Darryl Sterdan ,QMI Agency

First posted: Friday, December 09, 2011 01:43 AM CST

Prince Plenty of artists threaten to play all night long, but Prince made you believe he might actually do it.

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Prince & New Power Generation

Thursday Dec. 8, MTS Centre

4.5 stars


Turns out some parties really were meant to last.

Case in point: Prince’s epic 150-minute funkstravaganza Thursday night at MTS Centre.

“This is your party, but I’m the DJ,” the 53-year-old Minneapolitan told an energized crowd of 10,500 rainbow children midway through his second visit to town. “And I get to play what I want.”

Indeed he did. But thankfully, it turned out that all His Royal Purpleness wanted to play were hits, hits, covers and more hits — along with some funky extended jams from his star-studded band.

Let’s break it down, dearly beloved. Dig, if you will, the picture:

THE STAGE: You don’t expect Prince to play on a normal square stage, do you? Heaven forbid. Instead, fans were greeted with a giant version of the unpronouncable symbol he used back when he was The Artist Formerly Known as Prince. The giant pansexual glyph sat smack-dab in the centre of the arena floor, with the phallic end pointed north and the band clustered in the circle at the opposite end (aside from another keyboard player who was situated at the end of the arena in his own separate elevated booth for some reason). A grand piano with a wraparound video screen sat in the swirly portion of the cross bar. Flashing running lights outlined every curve of the stage. Above it all hung a half-dozen vertical video screens and a six-armed truss filled with computerized lights. At the four corners (so to speak) on the floor were the VIP sections, with clumps of high tables for the big spenders. But from my perspective, they wasted their money — they might have been closer, but the best seats in the house were on the sides of the arena, where you could see every moment of the action.

THE COLOURS OF THE NIGHT: Purple and gold, of course — though there were also a handful of raspberry berets dotting the crowd.

THE RULES: No pictures and no texting — staff and security spent the bulk of the set chasing up and down the aisles admonishing anybody and everybody who didn’t obey, and threatening repeat offenders with ejection. For the most part, it worked: Instead of the usual blue, glowing spots you see at most concerts, the audience was almost totally dark. It was actually kind of cool.

THE ENTRANCE: Half an hour after the advertised 8 p.m. start, thunder rumbled through the PA, lightning cracked on the video screens, fog began to swirl and Prince appeared — rising from below the centre of the stage on a large platform. Nattily dressed in a long-coated black suit over a white shirt, and sporting a giant ring on his right hand and diamond crescents on the tops of his ears, he glided over to that grand piano and opened the show with a solo, electro-grooving rendition of the Purple Rain megahit When Doves Cry. “Are you ready for me?” he asked, joking with the crowd. “Do you know how many hits I have?” To drive home the point, he launched into his so-called Sampler Set, a medley of oldies like Sign O’ The Times, The Most Beautiful Girl in the World, Forever in My Life and more. “It feels like the weekend,” he remarked. “I ain’t got nothing to do tomorrow; how about you? ... Better call your babysitters, I’m serious!”

THE BAND: Prince’s latest incarnation of the New Power Generation is a quartet with three female vocalists, who made their way onstage one by one as he worked his way through that Sampler Set. But the real VIPs of the night were none other than legendary James Brown sax man Maceo Parker and Sly and the Family Stone bassist Larry Graham (clad in white from head to toe like some angelic cowboy-pimp). The former emerged during the slow-burning Joy in Repetition to deliver one of his typically muscular solos. Then the latter came on the scene and things really kicked into gear as the band burned through irresistibly funky versions of not one, not two, but three — count ’em, three — Sly and the Family Stone standards: Everyday People, Stand and Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin). Graham, naturally, was completely in his element, tearing off finger-popping basslines and unfurling a mighty, thundering solo as he swaggered from one end of the stage to the other. He vanished at the one-hour mark of the show. But Prince and the rest were still just hitting their stride.

THE SECOND ACT: “Sound check is over,” Prince announced. And with that, he launched into a lengthy string of hits: Take Me With U, Raspberry Beret, Cream and more. Prince has been playing a different set every night on this tour, so you never know what you’re going to get. But you couldn’t really have asked for a stronger, better-paced show than this. Despite having to know dozens of songs, the band was ridiculously tight — while still managing to be limber enough to follow their bosses every move and improvisation. “Real music played by real musicians,” Prince proudly proclaimed at least twice. Point taken. The man himself also seemed to be in fine form: His voice was as strong as ever, effortlessly nailing every screaming, mile-high falsetto and never running out of steam, despite the fact he spent nearly every second either dancing or moving about the massive stage. His guitar work was similarly solid, with funky licks and screaming solos unspooling without pause from his well-worn Telecaster (and a newer replica that he didn’t mind tossing offstage to his guitar tech). Most important: Prince seemed to be having a blast — jamming with his band, joking with his singers and having his technicians raise and lower the house lights so he could interact with the crowd, who were encouraged to clap on the two and four, wave their arms in the air and sing along with nearly every chorus and refrain that came down the pipe. After covers of Michael Jackson’s Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough and The Beatles’ Yesterday, it all came to a climax with a swelling version of Nothing Compares 2 U and a show-stopping Purple Rain, accompanied by a blizzard of purple and gold confetti blown over the rapturous crowd. Not bad for 90 minutes.

THE FIRST ENCORE: After more thunder and lightning and fog, the church organ kicked in and everybody knew what was coming. “Dearly beloved,” Prince intoned, offering the opening words of Let’s Go Crazy. Which is pretty much how the audience reacted. The band burned through it, inserting the bouncy synth-pop of Delirious in the middle for good measure. Then they pulled out all the stops and pushed the crowd over the edge with 1999 and Little Red Corvette. But after Prince said goodnight and left the stage, something really wild happened: The house lights went up — and almost nobody left. The crowd simply stayed and stomped and screamed and clapped until the house lights dimmed again and Prince returned. First time I’ve seen that. And after a show like that, no wonder.

THE OTHER ENCORES: “We got no more hits!” Prince ended up claiming. “We’re out of hits!” Despite his protests, he managed to find a few more gems like Kiss and Controversy in the back catalog, doling them out one by one and then leaving the stage via his descending platform — only to be summoned back time and again like James Brown. At one point, he rose back into view sprawled on the floor before literally rising to the occasion yet again. "Don't toy with me, Winnipeg," he warned at one point. "Because I will play all night." I've heard singers say it before, but this was the first time I ever thought it might actually happen. But finally, after more than two hours — and a monumental version of the powerhouse ballad The Beautiful Ones — the whole affair wrapped with a full-on disco workout featuring a cover of Sylvester’s Dance (Disco Heat) and Baby I’m a Star. As Prince rode his elevator down for the umpteenth and final time, he asked, “Was it the party of the year?” As if he — and we — didn’t already know.

Set List:

When Doves Cry

Sampler Set:

Sign O’ The Times

Most Beautiful Girl in the World

Forever in My Life

Darling Nikki

Hot Thing

I Would Die 4 U

Housequake

A Love Bizarre

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Joy in Repetition

Everyday People

Alphabet Street

Stand

Life

Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin)

Take Me With U

Raspberry Beret

Cream

Don't Stop 'til You Get Enough

Cool

Yesterday

Nothing Compares 2 U

Purple Rain

First Encore:

Let’s Go Crazy

Delirious

1999

Little Red Corvette

Second Encore:

Kiss

Third Encore:

Controversy

Fourth Encore:

The Beautiful Ones

Dance (Disco Heat)

Baby I’m a Star

Cool report.biggrin

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Reply #38 posted 12/09/11 7:24am

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xLiberiangirl said:

Aha! Okay. Didn't knew that.. I don't own the ONA box yet.. so.. thanks!

your welcome and if u find the thread about the minneapolis sound streaming sites, this verison with larry is played on there. i hope u get 2 hear it but i will say cause i was there ..DA BOMB

I found it. Gonna listen to it soon! Awesome that you was there!

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Reply #39 posted 12/09/11 8:38am

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L4OATheOriginal said:

Philly76 said:

Boring setlist, same as always.

I hope he can offer something new next time he comes to Europe.

zipped 4 "fear" of being negative and commenting on a concert I wasn't there 2 either voice my thoughts of either the concert was great or not great due 2 just reading a setlist that I have personally heard every single song live previously by either being in the arena or via a bootleg recording of these song. Or the simple fact that I may agree with another orger thus linking myself 2 the "haters".

oh fuck that shit! i agree with what you said about this setlist. I love larry and all but damn prince never seems 2 let Larry focus on his own Graham Central station material other than the Jam or Hair. Like Prince's musical output, Larry has a musical legacy that is more than sly and the family stone material.

and if anyone doesn't like what i have 2 say about these concerts, let me say that get over it. music is subjective 2 the listners ear and if u liked these concerts, good 4 u but not everyone may share your optimism just as much as some that won't agree with mine.

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

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Reply #40 posted 12/09/11 8:42am

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NeonCraxx said:

Philly76 said:

Boring setlist, same as always.


You're kidding, right?

No i ain´t.

He has the same setlist for nearly 2 years now and just changes the order or puts in 1 or 2 "new" songs here and there.

His most recent track he played in Winnipeg was TMBGITW (1994) and this only as a sampler instead playing it in full length. As if he doesn´t write new music for over 17 years now...

He ignores playing potential hits like Diamonds & Pearls, I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man and Thieves In The Temple for a very long time now, always plays the same "hits".

And what´s up with some recent stuff? What about Extralovable (and yes, i really like the 2011 version) or We Can Luv (Funk) sung by Andy Allo?

Just a few thoughts...

I won´t be too negative, Prince is still the no.1 spot to be when it comes to live concerts but I really hope he changes some stuff for his next tour, wherever it will be...

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Reply #41 posted 12/09/11 9:23am

2elijah

RodeoSchro said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

zipped 4 "fear" of being negative and commenting on a concert I wasn't there 2 either voice my thoughts of either the concert was great or not great due 2 just reading a setlist that I have personally heard every single song live previously by either being in the arena or via a bootleg recording of these song. Or the simple fact that I may agree with another orger thus linking myself 2 the "haters".

oh fuck that shit! i agree with what you said about this setlist. I love larry and all but damn prince never seems 2 let Larry focus on his own Graham Central station material other than the Jam or Hair. Like Prince's musical output, Larry has a musical legacy that is more than sly and the family stone material.

and if anyone doesn't like what i have 2 say about these concerts, let me say that get over it. music is subjective 2 the listners ear and if u liked these concerts, good 4 u but not everyone may share your optimism just as much as some that won't agree with mine.

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Rodeo, I fixed the link for you...it should take L4 straight to that thread to do all his usual complaining.....non-stop like a runaway train to nowhere . .lol No hard feelings L4. comfort

[Edited 12/9/11 9:45am]

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Reply #42 posted 12/09/11 10:13am

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RodeoSchro said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

zipped 4 "fear" of being negative and commenting on a concert I wasn't there 2 either voice my thoughts of either the concert was great or not great due 2 just reading a setlist that I have personally heard every single song live previously by either being in the arena or via a bootleg recording of these song. Or the simple fact that I may agree with another orger thus linking myself 2 the "haters".

oh fuck that shit! i agree with what you said about this setlist. I love larry and all but damn prince never seems 2 let Larry focus on his own Graham Central station material other than the Jam or Hair. Like Prince's musical output, Larry has a musical legacy that is more than sly and the family stone material.

and if anyone doesn't like what i have 2 say about these concerts, let me say that get over it. music is subjective 2 the listners ear and if u liked these concerts, good 4 u but not everyone may share your optimism just as much as some that won't agree with mine.

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

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Reply #43 posted 12/09/11 10:44am

2elijah

alexnvrmnd777 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

I don't think it's about having anything negative to say, there's a difference between positive opinions/constructive criticism, negative opinions vs constant complaining about shows a person never attended. It's one thing to give your input on a show where you were actually 'present', but to judge a show you never attended is like critiquing a movie you never watched or a broadway play you never actually attended. Whose version of the concert do you think most readers or those curious about how it played out, will take into account first? The person who was there or the one who never attended, regardless if the views are positive or negative?

[Edited 12/9/11 10:46am]

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RodeoSchro said:

L4OATheOriginal said:

zipped 4 "fear" of being negative and commenting on a concert I wasn't there 2 either voice my thoughts of either the concert was great or not great due 2 just reading a setlist that I have personally heard every single song live previously by either being in the arena or via a bootleg recording of these song. Or the simple fact that I may agree with another orger thus linking myself 2 the "haters".

oh fuck that shit! i agree with what you said about this setlist. I love larry and all but damn prince never seems 2 let Larry focus on his own Graham Central station material other than the Jam or Hair. Like Prince's musical output, Larry has a musical legacy that is more than sly and the family stone material.

and if anyone doesn't like what i have 2 say about these concerts, let me say that get over it. music is subjective 2 the listners ear and if u liked these concerts, good 4 u but not everyone may share your optimism just as much as some that won't agree with mine.

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

and this would be followed right by the thread "FOR ORGERS THAT CAN'T READ WHAT ANOTHER POSTER HAS SAID"

this would be the thread 4 u since clearly i stated i have HEARD EVERY SINGLE SONG DONE AND ARRANGEMENT OF THESE SONGS FROM THIS TOUR EITHER BY ATTENDING OR HEARING FROM A BOOTLEG"

warning warning warning reading is fundamental

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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2elijah said:

RodeoSchro said:

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Rodeo, I fixed the link for you...it should take L4 straight to that thread to do all his usual complaining.....non-stop like a runaway train to nowhere . .lol No hard feelings L4. comfort

[Edited 12/9/11 9:45am]

btw did u ever pick up condensate? and u may call it complaining but it's nothing but facts that one doesn't chose 2 accept about these shows.

no hard feelings hun comfort

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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alexnvrmnd777 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

dec 18, december 29, jan 18, february 7th 2 be exact lol just back then andy wasn't around ..oh it's a completley NEW tour we are talking about now! now we have a painter on stage and a person who holds their guitar behind their back and singing! woot yep i'm not qualified now 2 talk about this show or any other show now! nope NOT ME!

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #47 posted 12/09/11 10:57am

nipples

OOOOOOOHH My Godddddd!!

What an amazing night. So many thoughts to write here that I will have to do it when I have time to organize them. For now a few mentions...

My seat was at the very point of the stage. Awesome for dancing! For the encores a few of us were respectfully closer to the stage but keeping a distance.

Then Prince kind of made that "aww, come on, what are you doing back there?" face and beckoned us closer.

Of course the whole area was rushed! But I was ~~this far~~ away from the man, dancing to *fainting* Delerious!

The song that got me hooked way back when I was a kid! excited

My legs ache. But my grin is permenant.

I am so sorry to Runningbear that we did not meet up. I was attempting to serruptitiously take a photo during the encores

and my phone was dead before the show was over to get in contact with him for later!

I was writing all over my arm to try to capture the setlist and half of it I can not even make out today so

I am glad to see the local press having reported on it. I have so many more delicious thoughts but they will have to wait.

arrow Just know Prince looked fabulous and he was thoroughly enjoying himself. The endless funk jam may

have lost the crowd halfway through but I loved the looks that Prince was sharing with Maceo and Larry at center stage as they just... jammed. guitar

Glorious!! heart

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Reply #48 posted 12/09/11 11:03am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

I don't think it's about having anything negative to say, there's a difference between positive opinions/constructive criticism, negative opinions vs constant complaining about shows a person never attended. It's one thing to give your input on a show where you were actually 'present', but to judge a show you never attended is like critiquing a movie you never watched or a broadway play you never actually attended. Whose version of the concert do you think most readers or those curious about how it played out, will take into account first? The person who was there or the one who never attended, regardless if the views are positive or negative?

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hmmm if i saw a movie u know of and i liked it and u saw the same movie, u didnt' like it? should i stop u or anyone else 4 saying the movie wasn't as good 2 u? or how about when in the condensate threads u were saying things there about the album or the group 4 that matter when u hadn't even heard the album yet?

wow talk bout double standards there

so what i do which u call constant complaining is in fact by ur definition constructive criticisim in reagards 2 the same setlist since we saw him in NYC and previous tours. never once have i or anyone else that has had something "negative" 2 say 2 any one else who either doesn't care that the songs haven't been changed, constant one liners that's been said over and over b4, don't go 2 the shows, stop praising him etc. so if WE can respect y'all opinions about the shows whether they had gone there or not *and yes there have been orgers that havne't gone 2 these shows and expressed that they are happy 4 those that went or scream oh they wish they had gone etc* , when will get the same respect y'all command.

alex said it right tho this isn't the "concert review only postive comments" thread

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #49 posted 12/09/11 11:11am

nipples

So umm yeah!!!! yes

Did I meantion that was a truly stunning set up? Massive!

The overhead rig was so cool and all of the special effects/light displays really made it special.

From the floor you can't see the outline lights of the stage but there are so many other things

going on and they really added to the atmosphere and just worked so well with the songs!

One thing that I'm NOT sure if has been mentioned but last night

arrow no VIP's were invited up to dance!

I kept saying to those around me "there must be more! Vip's haven't gone up yet!"

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Reply #50 posted 12/09/11 11:12am

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The local papers have their reviews in:

http://www.winnipegfreepr...00823.html

Why Prince is a one-of-a-kind star

We'd like to show you a picture of Prince from his Winnipeg concert Thursday but photographers were barred from the concert. Instead, here's what he looked like in 2005 when he performed at the 36th Annual NAACP Image Awards in Los Angeles.

KEVIN WINTER / POSTMEDIA GETTY IMAGES Enlarge Image

We'd like to show you a picture of Prince from his Winnipeg concert Thursday but photographers were barred from the concert. Instead, here's what he looked like in 2005 when he performed at the 36th Annual NAACP Image Awards in Los Angeles.

A lot of babysitters earned overtime pay on Thursday night.

The reason? Music legend Prince was in Winnipeg and the eccentric Minneapolis artist promised he was going to play an epic show that would run late.

"This feels like a weekend. I ain’t got nothing to do tomorrow, how 'bout you? You better call your babysitter," he warned early on.

And he was true to his word, as his royal purpleness delivered a two-and-a-half hour set of funk, R&B, pop, rock and some disco spanning the past 30 years of his career, focusing mostly on the first half.

Some of the lateness was of his own doing since he took the stage 35 minutes after his scheduled 8 p.m. start time, but this was Prince, after all, playing only his second show in the city, and all was forgiven by the crowd of 10,500 at the MTS Centre as soon as he rose from a cloud of fog in the centre of his giant in-the-round stage shaped like the symbol he used as his name when he was the Artist Formerly Known as Prince.

As a testament to the amount of hits he has, Prince opened the night with one of his biggest: an electro-pop version of When Doves Cry performed solo with a backing track while playing an electric piano featuring a wrap-around LED screen.

He served as performer, hype man and master of ceremonies as he offered up Sign 'o’ the Times, a snippet of The Most Beautiful Girl in the World and Forever in My Life while getting the crowd to sing along and pump their fists in the air while performing in the dark or walking around the symbol stage outlined by lights that changed colours and throbbed to the beat. Fans in the VIP section sat at tables next to it and had their own drink service.

We would have had some great pictures to show you, but no photographers were allowed in the arena and fans were given leaflets threatening them with eviction if they were caught snapping shots.

His band the New Power Generation took the stage 15 minutes in, offering up some hard electro-funk then slowed it down as Prince walked around the stage reciting the words to the loungey Joy in Repetition before introducing former James Brown saxophonist Maceo Parker, who took the first of many solos throughout the night.

Then it was time for some old-school funk as Prince finally picked up his Telecaster, introduced original Sly & the Family Stone bassist Larry Graham and covered three of the band’s hits — Everyday People, Stand and Thank You (Falettinme Be Mice Elf Agin) — and got into some extended jams that had plenty of fans shaking their hips and singing along.

But it was Prince songs they came for and he got back to his own catalogue with a bouncy version of Take Me With U from Purple Rain, a snippet of Raspberry Beret and the 1991 single Cream before pulling out another cover, this time of Michael Jackson’s Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough.

"This is your party but tonight I’m the DJ and I play what I want," Prince reminded everyone before the Jackson cover, which featured his four female backup vocalists sitting together on a piano before joining Prince at centre stage to dance.

At 53 Prince — looking dapper in a black and white suit for the main set and a white outfit later — is still light on his feet and showed off his famous footwork and spins often, although he didn’t do any splits.

He finished his main 90-minute set with the anthem Purple Rain, which climaxed with his electrifying guitar solo as purple and silver confetti blew over the crowd who were singing "woo hoo hoo hoo," while waving their arms in the arm.

Purple Rain was a highlight, but there were still so many hits to go and he was just getting warmed up as Let’s Go Crazy, Delirious, 1999 and Little Red Corvette were unleashed in the first encore. Prince pulled out his falsetto for Kiss and shook his butt for some closeups on the video screens that earned some cheers from the females in the audience.

The house lights came up sending some to the exits, but they shouldn’t have left because Prince was back in five minutes and played for another 20, offering up Controversy, the ballad the Beautiful Ones and Baby I’m a Star to finish the night, and remind everyone of his status: a one-of-a-kind star.

rob.williams@freepress.mb.ca

Prince
Dec. 8, 2011
MTS Centre
Attendance: 10,500
Four-and-a-half out of Five stars

HOT DAMN!!!

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Reply #51 posted 12/09/11 12:04pm

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L4original said:

hmmm if i saw a movie u know of and i liked it and u saw the same movie, u didnt' like it? should i stop u or anyone else 4 saying the movie wasn't as good 2 u?wow talk bout double standards there

I'll make this as short as I can, to not take the thread off course, but no, but then you should follow that same advice when others say positive things about the concert who were actually there, and not jump all over them and assume they are 'koolaid drinkers' or some nonsense like that, just because they actually 'liked' a setlist from his concert(s), whether you complain it may be the same.

L4original said:

or how about when in the condensate threads u were saying things there about the album or the group 4 that matter when u hadn't even heard the album yet

L4, You're wrong about one thing though in that above comment of yours, because I've heard at least 3 to 4 songs of the Original7’s song from their newalbum, and said I liked the 3 I’ve heard so far, but I never said I disliked their ntire album, because I haven't heard the whole album. At least if you're going to put me on blast come to the table with a full deck of cards, not a half-assed one. lol Secondly, if you want to go there….The Original aka The Time, has a very familiar setlist for umpteen years, complete with the same stage performance ( “Jerome, hand me the mirror please so I can slick my hair back and straighten my tie “) and you complain about Prince?

The O7 are now on their own and let’s see in the future, if they get a pass from you if they continue to sing the same songs, complete with the same, type stage performance, which they know their ‘fans’ are familiar with and ‘expect’ , and let's see if they add that 'familiarity' in with their current and future, new songs down the road.

Also, yes of course there have been many here who didn't attend many of Prince’s concerts, but comment on it, based on reviews from 'people who actually attended' who describe how he performed a song, etc. whether it was the same song from a previous show. Many relate/compare their experience of him singing that 'same' song at a past show they attended with another fans' experience, just like when you do the same and complain about it. Correct me, if I'm wrong, but what I get from you, is that most of your complaints seems to be that you don’t like his popular, familiar songs on his setlists.

I'm not telling you how you should feel in your experience, but no matter the setlist, even if he added 10 rare songs, as long as you see 1 or 2 of the same songs he did from a previous show on the setlist, you will still complain, as though he doesn’t change/add other songs at all. Plus remember, his set list is not, solely or specifically designed to please you in particular, especially when the man has tons of fans to please from different eras of his career, who attend his shows. So don't 'expect' it will be always played to your, specific taste in his music. I'm sure we all want him to perform many songs from his extensive catalogue, but a musician with his 30-year plus music history, can't play in an arena and not perform some of his most popular/familiar songs from his catalogue, known to casual, diehards and new fans, because he doesn’t just have ‘one-type’ of fan base, where he can do an entire show of only new and rare songs in a show, without familiar ones. He usually seems to pull out the rarities at the smaller venues where many of the diehards most likely show up. Anyway, that's all I'll have to say on that for now. We can take it further in that thread link Rodeo posted, so we don't take this thread off course. Okay, back on topic for 'concert reviews'.

[Edited 12/9/11 12:08pm]

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Reply #52 posted 12/09/11 12:09pm

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nipples said:

OOOOOOOHH My Godddddd!!

What an amazing night. So many thoughts to write here that I will have to do it when I have time to organize them. For now a few mentions...

My seat was at the very point of the stage. Awesome for dancing! For the encores a few of us were respectfully closer to the stage but keeping a distance.

Then Prince kind of made that "aww, come on, what are you doing back there?" face and beckoned us closer.

Of course the whole area was rushed! But I was ~~this far~~ away from the man, dancing to *fainting* Delerious!

The song that got me hooked way back when I was a kid! excited

My legs ache. But my grin is permenant.

I am so sorry to Runningbear that we did not meet up. I was attempting to serruptitiously take a photo during the encores

and my phone was dead before the show was over to get in contact with him for later!

I was writing all over my arm to try to capture the setlist and half of it I can not even make out today so

I am glad to see the local press having reported on it. I have so many more delicious thoughts but they will have to wait.

arrow Just know Prince looked fabulous and he was thoroughly enjoying himself. The endless funk jam may

have lost the crowd halfway through but I loved the looks that Prince was sharing with Maceo and Larry at center stage as they just... jammed. guitar

Glorious!! heart

Are you sure you went to the same concert that L4OATheOriginal and stillwaiting went to?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Because they HATED it.

You didn't happen to see them there, did you?

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Reply #53 posted 12/09/11 12:14pm

RodeoSchro

alexnvrmnd777 said:

RodeoSchro said:

Ummmmm - don't you have to have actually HEARD it to be able to subjectify it?

Your comments would be more appropriate in the soon-to-be-stickified thread titled "The "I CAN'T STAND PRINCE SETLISTS FROM CONCERTS I DIDN'T GO TO!" sticky".

Here's the link although with the org linking bug, I can't guarantee it will take you to that thread. But whatever thread it DOES take you to will, I'm sure, be more than happy to host your thoughts on the quality of music that you didn't hear:

http://prince.org/msg/12/371986

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

What's the name of this thread? It APPEARS to be "CONCERT REVIEWS (Post Here) - Thurs. 12/8/11 - Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre'. Can you explain to me how one can review a concert one did not attend?

Was there some breakthrough in telepathy or cell transportation that I missed??????

Now, because I am a great guy, I have taken the time to create a thread espeically for those who didn't go to the concert and want to bitch about songs they did not hear! And I'm sure it's soon to be a sticky, if not front page news.

L4OA went to a concert? Great! L4OA is free to review/bitch about the concert he actually WENT to. But bitching about something you DIDN'T go to is pretty stupid.

Therefore, I created a masterpiece of a thread where people can congregate to complain about stuff they never even heard.

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Reply #54 posted 12/09/11 12:39pm

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2elijah said:

I'll make this as short as I can, to not take the thread off course, but no, but then you should follow that same advice when others say positive things about the concert who were actually there, and not jump all over them and assume they are 'koolaid drinkers' or some nonsense like that, just because they actually 'liked' a setlist from his concert(s), whether you complain it may be the same.

understand that i don't take someone's "postive" critique of a show and jump on them. that's not what I do. i make my own statements and respond back 2 those that in turn want 2 jump me or any others that state they didn't like the show. everyone is entitled 2 their view and should be respected without the name calling. but if that respect can't be shown, then those that get called kool aid drinkers shouldn't be 2 suprised 2 be called that.

2eliha said:

L4, You're wrong about one thing though in that above comment of yours, because I've heard at least 3 to 4 songs of the Original7’s song from their newalbum, and said I liked the 3 I’ve heard so far, but I never said I disliked their ntire album, because I haven't heard the whole album. At least if you're going to put me on blast come to the table with a full deck of cards, not a half-assed one. lol Secondly, if you want to go there….The Original aka The Time, has a very familiar setlist for umpteen years, complete with the same stage performance ( “Jerome, hand me the mirror please so I can slick my hair back and straighten my tie “) and you complain about Prince?

The O7 are now on their own and let’s see in the future, if they get a pass from you if they continue to sing the same songs, complete with the same, type stage performance, which they know their ‘fans’ are familiar with and ‘expect’ , and let's see if they add that 'familiarity' in with their current and future, new songs down the road.

Correct me, if I'm wrong, but what I get from you, is that most of your complaints seems to be that you don’t like his popular, familiar songs on his setlists.

I'm not telling you how you should feel in your experience, but no matter the setlist, even if he added 10 rare songs, as long as you see 1 or 2 of the same songs he did from a previous show on the setlist, you will still complain, as though he doesn’t change/add other songs at all. Plus remember, his set list is not, solely or specifically designed to please you in particular, especially when the man has tons of fans to please from different eras of his career, who attend his shows. So don't 'expect' it will be always played to your, specific taste in his music. I'm sure we all want him to perform many songs from his extensive catalogue, but a musician with his 30-year plus music history, can't play in an arena and not perform some of his most popular/familiar songs from his catalogue, known to casual, diehards and new fans, because he doesn’t just have ‘one-type’ of fan base, where he can do an entire show of only new and rare songs in a show, without familiar ones. He usually seems to pull out the rarities at the smaller venues where many of the diehards most likely show up. Anyway, that's all I'll have to say on that for now. We can take it further in that thread link Rodeo posted, so we don't take this thread off course.

i know the 07/morris day and the time have been doing the same setlist since 96 hence i haven't seen them since. hopefully with this new tour they will add more songs 2 their setilist. the major difference between any act like the time vs someone who has more material 2 pull from is obvious. ur working with only a set limit as compared to hundreds more material but this is something prince doesn't do.

and your half right on my assetment about his hits, what i would love 2 see and it's been said on these type of threads as well, is a BALANCE of hits to deep cuts/hardcore material. this type of show would benefit everyone involved that can witness that he's not a performer stuck in a time warp and that's what he is. regardless of venue size, if he was smart enough 2 market himself in this way 2 those that may not be more familiar with his catalouge. Casual fans aren't the ones that have and contiue 2 support him.

and as 4 rodeo's thread falloff no need 2 go into a lions den of people that won't listen 2 reason. i'm from the george clinton school of things ..let's take it 2 the stage which is here in forums of the concerts themselves. cause if u can't swim here then ur not a good swimmer at all .

[Edited 12/9/11 12:08pm]

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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RodeoSchro said:

nipples said:

OOOOOOOHH My Godddddd!!

What an amazing night. So many thoughts to write here that I will have to do it when I have time to organize them. For now a few mentions...

My seat was at the very point of the stage. Awesome for dancing! For the encores a few of us were respectfully closer to the stage but keeping a distance.

Then Prince kind of made that "aww, come on, what are you doing back there?" face and beckoned us closer.

Of course the whole area was rushed! But I was ~~this far~~ away from the man, dancing to *fainting* Delerious!

The song that got me hooked way back when I was a kid! excited

My legs ache. But my grin is permenant.

I am so sorry to Runningbear that we did not meet up. I was attempting to serruptitiously take a photo during the encores

and my phone was dead before the show was over to get in contact with him for later!

I was writing all over my arm to try to capture the setlist and half of it I can not even make out today so

I am glad to see the local press having reported on it. I have so many more delicious thoughts but they will have to wait.

arrow Just know Prince looked fabulous and he was thoroughly enjoying himself. The endless funk jam may

have lost the crowd halfway through but I loved the looks that Prince was sharing with Maceo and Larry at center stage as they just... jammed. guitar

Glorious!! heart

Are you sure you went to the same concert that L4OATheOriginal and stillwaiting went to?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Because they HATED it.

You didn't happen to see them there, did you?

it's one thing 2 quote the name but be sure u get the facts straight ..are u sure u went 2 this show or any show in particular? i can site off the dates and venue i went 2 see this show can u? and if u liked it or if anyone liked it, there is no problem. my comments are not to those that enjoy themself but its 2 the artist that is on the stage doing these shows. I have seen others speak about the security at these shows and their gripes about it. since i wasn't there i can't speak on the treatment they got and i don't do such a thing. The music performed is soemthing i can speak on because i have heard the material previously. when those that HAVE attended these shows and they comment on things like i mention, nothing is said 2 them but u choose 2 come at me with ur comments and then that's when i step back 2 u directly. not naming anyone else but the person calling me out. u don't like what i have 2 say about these type of setlists/music being played, simple don't respond back 2 me. i won't take no offense if u do.

my original comment in this thread was simply a sarcastic way of pointing out that those that don't agree with people like me that are disappointed in the same old songs night in night out cannot silence me or others. it would be just as unfair if we went and said 2 every single person there or not that liked what they heard or see from a setlist to stop praising it and stfu then we would be wrong 4 doing that.

i have not nor will i be told 2 stfu or go 2 some other thread 2 talk about these shows.

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #56 posted 12/09/11 12:56pm

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RodeoSchro said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

What's the name of this thread? It APPEARS to be "CONCERT REVIEWS (Post Here) - Thurs. 12/8/11 - Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre'. Can you explain to me how one can review a concert one did not attend?

Was there some breakthrough in telepathy or cell transportation that I missed??????

Now, because I am a great guy, I have taken the time to create a thread espeically for those who didn't go to the concert and want to bitch about songs they did not hear! And I'm sure it's soon to be a sticky, if not front page news.

L4OA went to a concert? Great! L4OA is free to review/bitch about the concert he actually WENT to. But bitching about something you DIDN'T go to is pretty stupid.

Therefore, I created a masterpiece of a thread where people can congregate to complain about stuff they never even heard.

and surprise surprise the concerts i went 2 and attended in person where i stated there that i didn't like the setlist except for the last 2 nights in nyc..want 2 take a gander of what i was told then? just take one simple guess..

now everyone takes their own concert experience in their own perception. i go 2 princes shows 4 a variety or reasons mainly for the spectacule of the staging and lighting alone is phenonomenal. but at the end of the day the visuals don't really stay with the mind but the music does. and that's what i speak on only. not what he was wearing, how his hair was but on his guitar playing, piano playing and ur lucky 2 witness it which i have previously in person is when he takes 2 the bass and drums.

prince can do so much better than what he has been doing of late and i'm hoping that brilliance does return soon. if others like what they see good 4 them but it's not my cup of coffee

man, he has such an amazing body of music that it's sad to see him constrict it down to the basics. he's too talented for the lineup he's doing. estelle 81
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Reply #57 posted 12/09/11 1:42pm

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L4OATheOriginal said:

RodeoSchro said:

Are you sure you went to the same concert that L4OATheOriginal and stillwaiting went to?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Because they HATED it.

You didn't happen to see them there, did you?

it's one thing 2 quote the name but be sure u get the facts straight ..are u sure u went 2 this show or any show in particular? i can site off the dates and venue i went 2 see this show can u? and if u liked it or if anyone liked it, there is no problem. my comments are not to those that enjoy themself but its 2 the artist that is on the stage doing these shows. I have seen others speak about the security at these shows and their gripes about it. since i wasn't there i can't speak on the treatment they got and i don't do such a thing. The music performed is soemthing i can speak on because i have heard the material previously. when those that HAVE attended these shows and they comment on things like i mention, nothing is said 2 them but u choose 2 come at me with ur comments and then that's when i step back 2 u directly. not naming anyone else but the person calling me out. u don't like what i have 2 say about these type of setlists/music being played, simple don't respond back 2 me. i won't take no offense if u do.

my original comment in this thread was simply a sarcastic way of pointing out that those that don't agree with people like me that are disappointed in the same old songs night in night out cannot silence me or others. it would be just as unfair if we went and said 2 every single person there or not that liked what they heard or see from a setlist to stop praising it and stfu then we would be wrong 4 doing that.

i have not nor will i be told 2 stfu or go 2 some other thread 2 talk about these shows.

I do not know how to tell you this so I'm just going to say it:

Prince does not read your posts.

Sorry.

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Reply #58 posted 12/09/11 1:47pm

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RodeoSchro said:

alexnvrmnd777 said:

Why does he (or anyone else) have to go to some thread you created if he has something negative to say about the setlist?? As far as I can see, the title of this thread is all about the concert, not "The Winnipeg concert (only positive opinions)"!

He's been doing mostly the same show and setlist for a whole YEAR now, with the same boring band. L4OA has already heard the concert, back in Dec (or was it Jan) of last year. Ain't shit really change, so he's qualified to talk about it. Hell, I've heard a couple of these "Welcome 2 xxx" concerts, so I know what it's like too. And it's very Vegas-y!

You guys are a trip to try to segregate threads and shit. Y'all gonna have to take the good with the bad, just like in real life.

What's the name of this thread? It APPEARS to be "CONCERT REVIEWS (Post Here) - Thurs. 12/8/11 - Winnipeg, Manitoba - MTS Centre'. Can you explain to me how one can review a concert one did not attend?

Was there some breakthrough in telepathy or cell transportation that I missed??????

Now, because I am a great guy, I have taken the time to create a thread espeically for those who didn't go to the concert and want to bitch about songs they did not hear! And I'm sure it's soon to be a sticky, if not front page news.

L4OA went to a concert? Great! L4OA is free to review/bitch about the concert he actually WENT to. But bitching about something you DIDN'T go to is pretty stupid.

Therefore, I created a masterpiece of a thread where people can congregate to complain about stuff they never even heard.

Well since YOU created that "masterpiece" thread, you'll probably be the ONLY one posting in it.

Now, did something DRASTICALLY change about the music or arrangements or his scripts during the concert from last last December all the way through now?? No, it didn't. So, if I've heard the some of those concerts from the same, unchanged tour already (oooops, I can't forget the brilliant addition of Andy the painter and blazing axe handler!!), I've pretty much heard the one from last night, especially based on the set list. So, no "telepathy or cell transportation" is needed. Just common sense. When he really starts changing up his shit, THEN come back and holla at me for not having heard the show. But until then, it's NOTHING we haven't already heard. And THAT's been our main point/problem this entire time.

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L4OATheOriginal said:

2elijah said:

I'll make this as short as I can, to not take the thread off course, but no, but then you should follow that same advice when others say positive things about the concert who were actually there, and not jump all over them and assume they are 'koolaid drinkers' or some nonsense like that, just because they actually 'liked' a setlist from his concert(s), whether you complain it may be the same.

understand that i don't take someone's "postive" critique of a show and jump on them. that's not what I do. i make my own statements and respond back 2 those that in turn want 2 jump me or any others that state they didn't like the show. everyone is entitled 2 their view and should be respected without the name calling. but if that respect can't be shown, then those that get called kool aid drinkers shouldn't be 2 suprised 2 be called that.

2eliha said:

L4, You're wrong about one thing though in that above comment of yours, because I've heard at least 3 to 4 songs of the Original7’s song from their newalbum, and said I liked the 3 I’ve heard so far, but I never said I disliked their ntire album, because I haven't heard the whole album. At least if you're going to put me on blast come to the table with a full deck of cards, not a half-assed one. lol Secondly, if you want to go there….The Original aka The Time, has a very familiar setlist for umpteen years, complete with the same stage performance ( “Jerome, hand me the mirror please so I can slick my hair back and straighten my tie “) and you complain about Prince?

The O7 are now on their own and let’s see in the future, if they get a pass from you if they continue to sing the same songs, complete with the same, type stage performance, which they know their ‘fans’ are familiar with and ‘expect’ , and let's see if they add that 'familiarity' in with their current and future, new songs down the road.

Correct me, if I'm wrong, but what I get from you, is that most of your complaints seems to be that you don’t like his popular, familiar songs on his setlists.

I'm not telling you how you should feel in your experience, but no matter the setlist, even if he added 10 rare songs, as long as you see 1 or 2 of the same songs he did from a previous show on the setlist, you will still complain, as though he doesn’t change/add other songs at all. Plus remember, his set list is not, solely or specifically designed to please you in particular, especially when the man has tons of fans to please from different eras of his career, who attend his shows. So don't 'expect' it will be always played to your, specific taste in his music. I'm sure we all want him to perform many songs from his extensive catalogue, but a musician with his 30-year plus music history, can't play in an arena and not perform some of his most popular/familiar songs from his catalogue, known to casual, diehards and new fans, because he doesn’t just have ‘one-type’ of fan base, where he can do an entire show of only new and rare songs in a show, without familiar ones. He usually seems to pull out the rarities at the smaller venues where many of the diehards most likely show up. Anyway, that's all I'll have to say on that for now. We can take it further in that thread link Rodeo posted, so we don't take this thread off course.

i know the 07/morris day and the time have been doing the same setlist since 96 hence i haven't seen them since.

Lol! But at least they have some sort of an excuse. Their back catalogue isn't nearly as varied and deep as Prince's.

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