Ik heb prince 16 keer gezien. 14 keer purple rain gehoord, 2 keer niet, tijdens een tafkap show en een aftershow in Brussel. Ik zou als concertganger , die prince bv voor 1e keer ziet, en geloof me, dat zijn er heel veel, te zien aan de handen woensdag in gent, me toch wel bedrogen voelen mocht er geen purple rain gespeeld worden. Vorig jaar in werchter vonden mensen die hem voor het eerst zagen al dat er te weinig hits gespeeld werden, wat te denken van, zoi'n setlist als in DH vandaag. Ik zeg t, hem m al 16 keer gezien, en heb meer dan 300 shows thuis, maar met zo'n setlist als vandaag zou ik me zelfs niet goed gevoeld hebben. Eigenlijk zwakke setlist maar. Gent woensdag, het eerste uur was ook zwak trouwens.
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Keep in mind it's a Jazz festival, it's an opportunity to play something different then on a regular concert. If you're a greatest hits fan, that's cool. But keep in mind that these three concerts are being played on a Jazz Festival. Most ticket owners visited the festival earlier that day. They are music lovers and can appreciate music and songs that they haven't heard before. And I think Prince did a great job for providing an awesome setlist with one of his greatest music (don't read hits). [Edited 7/10/11 4:27am] Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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He's in Love, and so is she | |
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English please!
I couldn't disagree more. There's absolutely no neccessity for first timers to hear purple rain, it's the overalll package they should get into, and there was enough compensation with other great songs to get it done. I went to see Prince my first time in '87, didn't have a clue of any song then, he just got to me that night, and I believe it was with Housequeke/Can't stop...those are the songs I remembered and got me to buy the album and made me a prince junkie. Last night he treated everybody to a hell of a party with a bold and strong setlist.
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qpvb said: Ik heb prince 16 keer gezien. 14 keer purple rain gehoord, 2 keer niet, tijdens een tafkap show en een aftershow in Brussel. Ik zou als concertganger , die prince bv voor 1e keer ziet, en geloof me, dat zijn er heel veel, te zien aan de handen woensdag in gent, me toch wel bedrogen voelen mocht er geen purple rain gespeeld worden. Vorig jaar in werchter vonden mensen die hem voor het eerst zagen al dat er te weinig hits gespeeld werden, wat te denken van, zoi'n setlist als in DH vandaag. Ik zeg t, hem m al 16 keer gezien, en heb meer dan 300 shows thuis, maar met zo'n setlist als vandaag zou ik me zelfs niet goed gevoeld hebben. Eigenlijk zwakke setlist maar. Gent woensdag, het eerste uur was ook zwak trouwens. especially the first hour. I was so happy he didn't play Purple Rain and other hits for the 1021st time, but instead went
Why commenting Dutch as this is an international forum English is preferred You having 300 shows at home is irrelevant. If you were there Could you please leave the arena through the backdoor Thank you Thank you [Edited 7/10/11 4:54am] "u can boo all you want, but Holland is funky "
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Yeah, Seal really messed up. In the Prince catalogue, "Mountains" is probably one of the hardest songs to perform, due to its rhythmic displacement of phrases in the chorus. There's very little room for improvisation, so you really have to know 100% what you're doing.
Seal didn't - he came in too early or too late or whatever. That in itself is not necessarily such a big deal, the problem is how the band handles it. Should they continue playing the song as it's supposed to be, and hope that he will eventually correct himself, or should they jump in to save the vocals, meaning that they might have to skip a couple of bars or so, with the risk of it sounding awkward.
One thing that makes it even more difficult in this case, is that Seal isn't the bandleader. If it was Prince who made a similar mistake, the musicians' "rule" would be to follow him, even if he's wrong. But now it's the guest soloist who's messing up, with Prince the bandleader also on stage, so who does for example Ida decide to follow - Seal or Prince?
The risks are much higher than people might think. Since musicians are trained to react spontaneously, their impulse is usually to "fix what's wrong". But when 10 or so musicians get this impulse at the same time, they might execute it differently, which could make the situation even worse. The whole song could actually fall apart, even with such high-level musicians as the NPG.
Prince knows all of this, of course. So when he saw it coming, he quickly decided to get Seal off the stage, to avoid any further confusion and possible embarrassment. Not for him, but for the band. | |
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excellent. the fact police. i suppose y'all know when they're getting married too? be sure to let them know wont you. "It's time for you to go to the wire." | |
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Prince showed us what he's made of: FUNK!
It was amazing. I love Joy in repetition and him opening with that beautiful song was mindblowing. Had the whole audiance captured and in awe. He sure loved us, however not as much as he loved his guitar. He truly went loose and played and cherished his guitar, getting sounds and tunes out of the instrument that were from outerspace.
Unfortunately, I stood near a tall guy with a huge camera+lens. Prince shyed away from him (and all his innocent fans near that evil guy), so I didn't get to see much of his guitar play or performance up close. I enjoyed seeing what he did with the back of his guitar..... And as soon as he did go near our area, everybody got their camera out, so he left that side of the stage to themselves. WHAT PART OF NO CAMERA'S DO YOU PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTAND? Please, for those people obsessed with recording a concert on your camera, why don't you just buy a DVD, go and see that at home? leave the people who like to see a concert and be present at the concert enjoy the experience. I get fed up standing behind somebody who is having their camera in the air, blocking the view for people behind. If you really need proove that you have been at a Prince concert, buy a poster.
Back to concert: It was mindblowing! The purple hippies around me were so happy not to hear something about rain, snow, looks, kisses or red cars. The rest of the audiance was impressed and blown away by his guitar skills and the way he truly showed us he actually is a great musician. After the concert, in line for a taxi, I heard there were a lot of people who didn't know most songs he did, however, they got inspired to listen to his music beyond the songs about the weather, what year it is, what hat to wear or what car he likes.
And he was nailing it. I remember a few weeks ago I cried listening to 'the love we make' and how I couldn't get 'joy in repitition' out of my head The setlist yesterday made me sooo happy.
Prince showed his Dutch fans that he does respect them, and doesn't take them for granted. When he asked if we were allright, I felt he was genuine. Actually, everything he did yesterday felt as if he was genuine and he valued his audiance. He didn't do his theatrical tricks and teasing bits that he knows that work every time. He didn't rely on any of those things, just to get the audiance clapping and involved. He showed us what he is good at, concentrated on making music in stead of a theatrical show and had the audiance captured with that.
Shelby also showed us why she is in the band. Prince and Shelby were amazing together on the Jackson cover 'I want you back'. I love her. She owns her place in the band. And she is very good at paying attention to the audiance when that is needed. She is not all about herself. She was challenged yesterday and delivered. She and Prince working together at a song, is just awesome! I respect her a lot.
Andy has great and enigmatic stage presence. The audiance loved her voice and reacted strongly to her. I'm still a fan of her, I truly think she has star potential. Note the emphasis on potential.
She is a talent, however, not a musician in the league of Esperanza Spalding, Janelle Monae, Joss Stone, Eryka Badu. Nor is she an independent, disciplined, hard working woman like Misty. She is the girlfriend of the boss, and therefore she is on stage. I hope that Prince and Shelby will coach her well. It's her first big audiance tour and she needs to learn to play the guitar now. It's not child play anymore. She also needs to realize she is on stage with Prince and he has a name and standard to live up to. The audiance is there for quality, not for childplay.
Her influence and addition is of good value for the band and the show. It's great she gets so much stage time. However, months ago, I fel for her fresh, innocent, youthfull, careless, spontaneous smile. There is a thin line between that kind of smile and a fake, self-indulgent, presumptuous and opportunistic smile as soon as the camera is around. I hope Shelby and Prince can teach her about containing her ego and stay genuine. She is young and is on top of the mountain now, however, when she doesn't do the hard work to deliver quality, a very steep, deep and painfull ride into the valley might wait for her. I hope she will not let that happen and will proove that she actually is a good musician and not just the boss his newest misstress. We know how most of his mistresses end up..... So, Andy, get your act together and play the guitar a few hours a day. Practice, practice, practice! Play the guitar until your thumb and fingers are blue and bleeding (not literally). You'r on stage with Prince, not sitting around the camp fire anymore
And I love how Renata (right spelling?) is a steady, solid rock on stage. She plays the guitar well, loves making music, is not eager for audiance attention. Her calm, steady and quality play makes a solid base for the band to perform and show of. All props for her!
I apreciate Prince really pulling it off yesterday. People who want to hear his hits, can buy his 'The hits I and The hits II' cd. Watch Purple rain again, when that is your favorite song. Watch all his dvd's while he performs his hits. However, please, Prince is not a clown who has to do the same trick over and over. He is a well respected and legendary musician, valued around the world. Yesterday he was that class musician. Showing us his love for his guitar and music. He used his voice as an instrument, there is nobody who can pull that off the way he does. I hope tonight he will respect his fans and audiance and plays music. There is no need to manage the audiance, just play and the audiance will follow.
About the festival: It's great. The atmosphere is awesome. There are a lot of parents with their teenage kids enjoying music. There are a lot of foreigners, international musicians who come here for the good atmosphere. Yesterday I met this really nice German saxophone player. He just finished music school and wants to go to a Dutch master in sax (conservatorium of Hoge School in Rotterdam). I saw a few gigs together with him and everything we saw was just great. And I love being on my own on this festival, because I'm meeting so many people, true music lovers and true purple hippies. I never want to go to a festival with others anymore, I just go to a stage where I want to go, drink or eat when I want to, don't have to negociate anything. Love that.
I only had 3 hours of sleep, got home at 8 in the morning and woke up three hours later, at 11. I tried to find the boogie ball yesterday, however, was not lucky at all. Strolled through Rotterdam on my own, phone broke down, and in the end I just took the train back to Amsterdam at 6 in the morning.
After I posted this way to long text I will get ready to go back to Rotterdam, because I don't want to miss anything of Jan Akkerman. I missed out on Kyteman on friday and saturday, maybe I can finally see a little of his mindblowing genuis work at the start of the last day
I might want to go and see Snoop. However, he 3 years ago I got a ticket to see him in the Melkweg. Which is a good, small venue in the centre of Amsterdam. I got in early for a good spot. Then he arrive 1,5 hour (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) late. He was too stoned to perform and needed a chair to stay erect. Willy Nelson came in for a guest appearance, and he was actually the highlight of the evening. Snoop was okay at Lowlands, however, I do hope he realizes that he's performing for a music lovers today. He performs late, so I see a big risk of him being too stoned to give us his best musical side. Well, when he is able to leave the weed for after the concert, he might just show us where he is good at: improvising his lyrics and his good sense of humour.
I'm in a purple high at the moment, I do hope I can last till the end tonight. I haven't had that much sleep the last couple of days, eating is interfering with the concerts, so I only took some time to eat in the train to Rotterdam . My ears are beeping, because somehow the right side of the stage is my favorite spot (the speakers on that side have not survived Prince's fridaynight. Yesterday there were some awefull noises while P was doing his guitar, sound guy has to get his act together, I don't want to end up deaf) I will stick to the right side of the stage, near the piano. I still hope for some piano songs, and secretly I wish for Prince to do "Solo". For me that is a pure balad and although probably not how is feeling right now, it still is a jawdropping song.
As for his hits: "Cinamon girl", "Play in the sunshine", "boys and girls", "Christopher Tracy's parade", "cream", "diamonds and pearls", I mean, if he is in need for a crowd pleaser, he truly can go beyond wheather casting, cars, hats and looks
[Edited 7/10/11 5:23am] 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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Thank God, that happened! 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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In the alley, over by the curb ????? I AM LOOKING FOR USED PRINCE CONCERT TICKETS ... https://www.facebook.com/...erttickets | |
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I have to get ready, because I'm late. I have another request. I would want to see him as a guest performer with Jan Akkerman. Now, that would be cool! 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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true... but if I can sing the correct lyrics in the right order and at the right time (and I am not a musician at all) how come a pro like Seal didn't have a clue??? | |
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exactly "It's time for you to go to the wire." | |
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Fantastic setlist and judging by the reviews a great show, hope it made up for the apparent sound problems the night before, look forward to hearing this show when it gets out If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014 | |
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Mh...we´re on our way to Rotterdam...2,5h.... In my opinion....Mavis Staples, Snoop and Bootsy as guest performers....and Prince and Snoop doin´ something strange dizzl-shit..... (akime from germany...adoring HIM since the purple days....)......and....sorry for less quality in grammar...if your german is in a better shape....it´s up 2 u | |
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Improvement suggestions for tonight: Start on time & cut the lights on/lights off crap before the start. Unless you play another amazing show, then I will shut up. | |
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ergh? | |
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If this one isn't recorded I don't know what will. There were no checks whatsoever. Also not on Friday. | |
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Hear hear! | |
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So true, and fortunately! | |
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Really hope this one gets bootlegged . If not I'll create my own cd with the youtubevids. It's an awesome concert to get released on audio or leaked as soundboard, it won't happen, but still.......... Have a look at 'The W2A: Euro Tour Song Survey' http://prince.org/msg/12/362417 | |
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shockadelica1969 said:
Mh...we´re y to Rotterdam...2,5h.... In my opinion....Mavis Staples, Snoop and Bootsy as guest performers....and Prince and Snoop doin´ something strange dizzl-shit..... Train delay: missing jan akkerman concert, have to hope he gets invited to play at prince gig tonight, I would really want to see him live! 99% of my posts are ironic. Maybe this post sides with the other 1%. | |
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Some pics (not mine).
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Seal...he was a nice surprise guest, but unfortunately had some problems with the lyrics of mountains... I just listened to it and he sang...tennesse instead of a land called fantasy ) too funny! But i saw him yesterday on the festival and his concert was really nice, too...people loved it and therefore it is all fine;) Thank good, Larry Graham wasn`t there again! Same tired songs over and over [Edited 7/10/11 8:45am] | |
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Setlist not complete.
Between Dear Mr Man and Stand! Prince played Sly's If you want met to stay.
This show was positively on fire and perfect. Hope tonight he gets the funk out with Bootsy guesting on stage | |
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Wow! Beautiful!
Great setlist indeed!
Thanx much for the reviews & the pictures everyone!
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I thought there was a chance Chaka Khan or Candy Dulfer would make a guest appearance y'day, but they didn't. Anyone has an idea why not? | |
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OMG, so many great artists there.....beautiful pics! | |
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I have just seen the clip with Seal on youtube, , love how Prince says "thank you brother, first verse, lets go" classic Prince humour...
Btw, there seems to be no problems with the sound judging by this clip, sounds really rich and I can hear all the instruments considering it is from someone recording in the crowd. If it were not for insanity, I would be sane.
"True to his status as the last enigma in music, Prince crashed into London this week in a ball of confusion" The Times 2014 | |
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Udo, this one is for you!!!!
I never meant 2 cause u any sorrow
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