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Reply #30 posted 05/06/03 6:47am

DexMSR

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DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



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Reply #31 posted 05/06/03 6:51am

DigitalLisa

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



HOW THE FUCK IS A VIRGIN GONNA MAKE A THREAD LIKE THIS!! YEAH I SAID IT! CAUSE I AM TIRED OF YOUR STUPID ASS THREADS!! did I say that out loud? evillol

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Reply #32 posted 05/06/03 6:59am

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DigitalLisa said:

Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something.


You need to stop blaming the guys for gods sake. Women are just as responsible. It takes two to tango and all that shit.


if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...


No, because it is different with each person, situation... not all sex is the same.

You should really get off your high fucking horse. Not everyone who has sex is a whore, which is what you deduce it down to.

You should really open your mind and get off the backs of those who have made a decision that is different from yours. I don't tell you to go forth and fuck, do I?

I'm not saying you need to agree with the decision that some of us have made. I'm saying you need to respect us as we respect you.

Good Lawd...
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #33 posted 05/06/03 7:01am

DexMSR

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DigitalLisa said:

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



HOW THE FUCK IS A VIRGIN GONNA MAKE A THREAD LIKE THIS!! YEAH I SAID IT! CAUSE I AM TIRED OF YOUR STUPID ASS THREADS!! did I say that out loud? evillol

neutral

Who suck something up ur A*** 2nite lol ...

whip

NEXT !!! :Evillol:


Cause you are making me wonder about what you are accomplishing with all your threads...but...you do you baby...I still love you...peace evillol
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Reply #34 posted 05/06/03 7:08am

DigitalLisa

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



HOW THE FUCK IS A VIRGIN GONNA MAKE A THREAD LIKE THIS!! YEAH I SAID IT! CAUSE I AM TIRED OF YOUR STUPID ASS THREADS!! did I say that out loud? evillol

neutral

Who suck something up ur A*** 2nite lol ...

whip

NEXT !!! :Evillol:


Cause you are making me wonder about what you are accomplishing with all your threads...but...you do you baby...I still love you...peace evillol

if u don't know, then i can't give u a explanation, you just know that you know that you know, you know lol
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Reply #35 posted 05/06/03 7:17am

DexMSR

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DigitalLisa said:

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

DexMSR said:

DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



HOW THE FUCK IS A VIRGIN GONNA MAKE A THREAD LIKE THIS!! YEAH I SAID IT! CAUSE I AM TIRED OF YOUR STUPID ASS THREADS!! did I say that out loud? evillol

neutral

Who suck something up ur A*** 2nite lol ...

whip

NEXT !!! :Evillol:


Cause you are making me wonder about what you are accomplishing with all your threads...but...you do you baby...I still love you...peace evillol

if u don't know, then i can't give u a explanation, you just know that you know that you know, you know lol



Where is the Rhetoric thread when you need it!!! evilking
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Reply #36 posted 05/06/03 7:28am

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I respect people whom say they want to wait until mariage.

But still, would you buy a used car without taking it for
a test-drive??

And not just used cars, there are new cars that roll off
the conveyor belt with faulty attire.

I think waiting is ok, but I wouldn't wanna find out only
after the proverbial "point of no return".
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #37 posted 05/06/03 8:35am

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I think people get off on having a quest. "I waited until marriage!" Who fucking cares? lol Just do what's right for you. But if sex supposedly sucks so much, why are you holding this sucky thing so sacred? neutral I'm not saying go out & fuck now, but it seems like you just wanna have something to say on the matter. smile

Whatever, I'd never enter into something as serious as marriage w/o knowing everything I can about my soon to be LIFE partner including his past, his perception of the future, & yes, his fucking compatibility...

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Reply #38 posted 05/06/03 10:08am

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DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol


To me and my girlfriend, sex is not a luxury! We need it. We love to see eachother excited. I love to be a man to my woman. If we had no sex, we would be friends, or brother & sister barf. We've been together for 7 years and it has only changed for the better!

We are going to marry soon, not because we want to fuck for the first time but because we want to spend the rest of our lives together and think our friends and family are a part of that.

If anything is overrated, it's the first time with someone & sex with strangers. Those are always clumsy and disappointing. That is to say, when I'm involved... biggrin
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Reply #39 posted 05/06/03 10:09am

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LillianLaughs said:

If anything is overrated, it's the first time with someone & sex with strangers. Those are always clumsy and disappointing.

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I mean, like, where is the sun?
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Reply #40 posted 05/06/03 1:04pm

DigitalLisa

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DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol


To me and my girlfriend, sex is not a luxury! We need it. We love to see eachother excited. I love to be a man to my woman. If we had no sex, we would be friends, or brother & sister barf. We've been together for 7 years and it has only changed for the better!

We are going to marry soon, not because we want to fuck for the first time but because we want to spend the rest of our lives together and think our friends and family are a part of that.

If anything is overrated, it's the first time with someone & sex with strangers. Those are always clumsy and disappointing. That is to say, when I'm involved... biggrin

sex is 90% mental and 25% physical, sex is not the most important thing in a relationship and with many experiences I found out sex ruined chances of what could've been a good relationship, because it became more about the sex other then 2 people with common interest... I mean I'm not saying sex is bad, Sex is a good thing, but how many times of you heard people say, "if I knew now, what I've should've known back then, I've would've waited" I heard so many women complain that they wish they could've waited and saved their virginities... anyways all I'm saying is , if you can wait, wait ain't no hurry into it, what's the rush, so what if I let ur erection go to waste, there will be plenty more in the future... hopefully lol
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Reply #41 posted 05/06/03 2:49pm

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That's just a bad choice of partners, not a bad choice of whether to have sex or not. If they would have found the perfect person to be the first...They would not regret it.
F we az a People R not.......
Then we az a people should B.....

UNITED 4 LOVE

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Reply #42 posted 05/06/03 3:03pm

tackam

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It only hurts for a little while Lisa but you'll get use to it. wink



Yeah, one of my close girlfriends said almost exactly this after her first time. She changed her tune later on. biggrin
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Reply #43 posted 05/06/03 3:38pm

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While I wouldn't say that sex is "overrated"..
there is indeed some truth to what DigitalLisa says in this thread; namely:

"because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore..
The keyword is communication.."

Or, like a very wise person once said on her radio program:

"you don't learn something about a person when you have an orgasm with them"..


Sex is in fact a form of "communication",
the way a person comes to value or appreciate "the act" really depends on the context in which they experience the act;

thus, if a person goes out 1 night, gets drunk off their ass & then has sex with 2 or 3 people (known or unknown).. that person probably won't get that much out of those experiences, which could lead to that person having less of an appreciation for sex;

or, if a person meets someone, gets to know them as a person, the way they think, their values.. & then these 2 people decide that they want to build a relationship that is mutually beneficial..& then they add to all these (already established) elements..
then MAKING LOVE is the "icing on the cake"
(or, like we say in French, the "cherry on the cake")


In other words, any experience we have in life that we see as "valuable" or "important".. this experience is such because we do something (or DON'T do something) to place a value on that thing.

Sex can be made to be special, if the people involved choose to make it that way..
indeed, some ways are.. "more special" than others, so the more discriminating & selective a person is in how, with whom & under what circumstances they choose to participate-
IF they choose to participate at all-
in this most profound, life-giving & life affirming experience.


Even if I didn't "agree" with DigitalLisa, she still makes an essentially valid point.
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Reply #44 posted 05/06/03 3:46pm

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DigitalLisa said:

This is true indeed, I don't know why people are so obsessed with it, maybe it's the thought or the fantasy, but just because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore if you weren't sleeping with that person. The keyword is communication, the only real way to get to know a person truly and thoroughly is communication. Guys How about talking to each other for a change instead of being so quick to hop into the bed room, and fellas how about listening to us women for a change, you might learn something. In my opinion sex add's nothing to the relationship minus nothing of the relationship, it's just the luxury part of the relationship, I mean after you get to know a person, you want to share your body and mind with someone, but still I think if you wait for each other the anticipation and curiosity side of sex will make it more excited if two people do decide to wait...
I mean, the way I look at it is if you wait till ur married you have something to look forward to in the bedroom, but if you don't decided wait it's like you already know what the deal is and let's just get this over with before I have to return my wedding dress lol...
Okay so the moral to this story is (Clears throat) Sex is overrated, people make more of it then what it really is... so stop that people you make it disappointing for those who find out the truth that sex really sucks lol



It probably sounds wrong to say that I feel sad for you.

Speaking as someone who engages in physical activity with both sexes, I really beleive you need to get out there more and see what it is you're missing.

Is it an age thing?
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Reply #45 posted 05/06/03 3:48pm

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IMO, sex is just a part of the relationship that helps bring two people closer. If you treat it like an act and nothing more, than just go masterbate and skip the drama.

Understand that men are wired to think about sex constantly. The crack of dawn makes me horny sometimes. It's about thinking with your mind and not your dick.

In a relationship, I love the beginning of it, where I want to have sex but I'm prolonging it as long as possible. Kissing at the end of a night and wanting more until we both can't stand it.

Then after regularly having sex, the romance starts (I really love this part). It's writing poems, dancing, flowers and spontaneous acts of affection that you know she enjoys.

It's a combination of her mind and her body that drives me.
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Reply #46 posted 05/06/03 3:53pm

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Sex is only overated if you ain't getting any!!!
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Reply #47 posted 05/06/03 5:42pm

DigitalLisa

mltijchr said:

While I wouldn't say that sex is "overrated"..
there is indeed some truth to what DigitalLisa says in this thread; namely:

"because you have sex with someone doesn't necessarily mean you will get to know them anymore..
The keyword is communication.."

Or, like a very wise person once said on her radio program:

"you don't learn something about a person when you have an orgasm with them"..


Sex is in fact a form of "communication",
the way a person comes to value or appreciate "the act" really depends on the context in which they experience the act;

thus, if a person goes out 1 night, gets drunk off their ass & then has sex with 2 or 3 people (known or unknown).. that person probably won't get that much out of those experiences, which could lead to that person having less of an appreciation for sex;

or, if a person meets someone, gets to know them as a person, the way they think, their values.. & then these 2 people decide that they want to build a relationship that is mutually beneficial..& then they add to all these (already established) elements..
then MAKING LOVE is the "icing on the cake"
(or, like we say in French, the "cherry on the cake")


In other words, any experience we have in life that we see as "valuable" or "important".. this experience is such because we do something (or DON'T do something) to place a value on that thing.

Sex can be made to be special, if the people involved choose to make it that way..
indeed, some ways are.. "more special" than others, so the more discriminating & selective a person is in how, with whom & under what circumstances they choose to participate-
IF they choose to participate at all-
in this most profound, life-giving & life affirming experience.


Even if I didn't "agree" with DigitalLisa, she still makes an essentially valid point.


Thanxs 4 seeing my point, u took the words right outta my mouth smile
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Reply #48 posted 05/06/03 7:48pm

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I do agree that BAD sex is overrated. And that bad, poor, non-communication sex is usally presented as great, adventurous kinky sex. While it's really pretty empty.

But sex is important, I think, in that it's a crucial part of communication in a love relationship. It does influence your relationship when you have an orgasm or not. No sex is just as bad for a love relationship as no talking.

I heard a wise man on television say that "it may not sound very romantic, but when you get older, you sometimes need some discipline to keep your sex life going, in order to keep your marriage healthy".

So why wait with sex until marriage? Shouldn't we be even more critical about who we spend the rest of our lives with, than about who we sleep with?

Personally, I would certainly not marry someone before I had slept with her many times.

No sex before marriage is really risky, because the sexual temptation may cause you to marry too soon.
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Reply #49 posted 05/06/03 10:17pm

Paisley

Slave2daGroove said:

IMO, sex is just a part of the relationship that helps bring two people closer. If you treat it like an act and nothing more, than just go masterbate and skip the drama.

Understand that men are wired to think about sex constantly. The crack of dawn makes me horny sometimes. It's about thinking with your mind and not your dick.

In a relationship, I love the beginning of it, where I want to have sex but I'm prolonging it as long as possible. Kissing at the end of a night and wanting more until we both can't stand it.

Then after regularly having sex, the romance starts (I really love this part). It's writing poems, dancing, flowers and spontaneous acts of affection that you know she enjoys.

It's a combination of her mind and her body that drives me.

Wow that's deep, well said. nod
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Reply #50 posted 05/06/03 10:22pm

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Slave2daGroove said:

IMO, sex is just a part of the relationship that helps bring two people closer. If you treat it like an act and nothing more, than just go masterbate and skip the drama.

Understand that men are wired to think about sex constantly. The crack of dawn makes me horny sometimes. It's about thinking with your mind and not your dick.

In a relationship, I love the beginning of it, where I want to have sex but I'm prolonging it as long as possible. Kissing at the end of a night and wanting more until we both can't stand it.

Then after regularly having sex, the romance starts (I really love this part). It's writing poems, dancing, flowers and spontaneous acts of affection that you know she enjoys.

It's a combination of her mind and her body that drives me.

You say it waaay better than I did, with my stupid practical arguments. This is really what I wanted to say. Though the romance is where it starts with me. Not sex.
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Reply #51 posted 05/07/03 12:18am

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There's always a thrill in anticipation. The longer you have to wait for something, the more your excitement can build. So sometimes waiting can be very, very sexy.

But then again, sometimes it's fun to abandon all pretenses and just get freaky.

All depends on the what you're looking for, the chemistry, etc.

If sex is dissappoiting to you, look at what causes the dissappointment, and change what you're doing.
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