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Elon Musk and SpaceX stuff.... People on Mars by 2026? KEY POINTS SpaceX CEO Elon Musk said he is "highly confident" that the company will land humans on Mars in "about six years from now." "If we get lucky, maybe four years," Musk said, speaking on an award show webcast from Berlin, Germany on Tuesday. The key to achieving his Mars goals is SpaceX's development of its Starship rocket: The stainless steel vehicle that the company is developing with the goal of launching cargo and as many as 100 people at a time. https://www.google.com/am...-2026.html Honestly I've been lagging on keeping up on the Artemis program. I need to get busy again. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Musk has sketched out his grand vision in various interviews and public appearances over the years. It is the driving force behind the under-development Starship, a fully-reusable ship which will be able to land on Mars, refuel using the planet's resources, and either fly home or venture out further. If successful, SpaceX would establish a million-strong city on the Red Planet by 2050 — potentially the first step toward fully terraforming the planet. https://www.google.com/am...ritics/amp Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Ah the joys of having corporations propped up by long-suffering taxpayer dollars. [Edited 12/2/20 16:47pm] | |
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It is what it is. It's not going to change unless an asteriod comes. Some will keep shaking their fist at the sky. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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The first step to chaange it is to know about it first. Crony Capitalism at its finest. Feel free to feel that change is beyond your control. He is pushing a far more sinister agenda on the masses for their own enslavement, but we won't get into undesirables like that here because we'll get censored anway... | |
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tump said: The first step to chaange it is to know about it first. Crony Capitalism at its finest. Feel free to feel that change is beyond your control. He is pushing a far more sinister agenda on the masses for their own enslavement, but we won't get into undesirables like that here because we'll get censored anway... Hyperbole. How the heck is getting to Mars enslaving anybody? Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Four years??? Yeah right. What's this dude's plan on protecting humans from GCRs, in space and on Mars? There's no shelter from GCRs on the Red Planet.
This is from an article about the dangers of sending humans to Mars;
"But although the Moon and Mars look like comparatively reasonable destinations, they also have a deal-breaking problem. Neither is protected by a magnetosphere or atmosphere. Galactic Cosmic Rays, the energetic particles from distant supernovae, bombard the surfaces of the Moon and Mars, and people can’t live long-term under the assault of GCRs. The cancer-causing potential of this powerful radiation has long been known, although it remains poorly quantified. But research in the last two years has added a potentially more serious hazard: brain damage. GCRs include particles such as iron nuclei traveling at close to the speed of light that destroy brain tissue. Exposing mice to this radiation at levels similar to those found in space caused brain damage and loss of cognitive abilities, according to a study published last year by Vipan K. Parihar and colleagues in Science Advances. That research suggests we aren’t ready to send astronauts to Mars for a visit, much less to live there. On Earth, we are shielded from GCRs by water in the atmosphere. But it takes two meters of water to block half of the GCRs present in unprotected space. Practically, a Moon or Mars settlement would have to be built underground to be safe from this radiation.
....For protection from radiation, Titan has a nitrogen atmosphere 50 percent thicker than Earth’s. Saturn’s magnetosphere also provides shelter. On the surface, vast quantities of hydrocarbons in solid and liquid form lie ready to be used for energy. Although the atmosphere lacks oxygen, water ice just below the surface could be used to provide oxygen for breathing and to combust hydrocarbons as fuel. It’s cold on Titan, at -180°C (-291°F), but thanks to its thick atmosphere, residents wouldn’t need pressure suits—just warm clothing and respirators. Housing could be made of plastic produced from the unlimited resources harvested on the surface, and could consist of domes inflated by warm oxygen and nitrogen. The ease of construction would allow huge indoor spaces.
How will we get there? Currently, we can’t. Unfortunately, we probably can’t get to Mars safely, either, without faster propulsion to limit the time in space and associated GCR dosage before astronauts are unduly harmed. We will need faster propulsion to Mars or Titan. For Titan, much faster, as the trip currently takes seven years."
https://getpocket.com/explore/item/let-s-colonize-titan?utm_source=pocket-newtab
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Honestly there are a 1,001 dangers and obstacles involved. Those you mentioned are the least of them. Things nobody in general even thinks about. The astromuts will be putting their lives in serious jeopardy. There will always be a degree of failure. Scott Kelly is suffering from several health issues from just hovering over the Earth for a year plus. There are unknown variables to deal with once there. One really does have to wonder what the heck is the drive. This isn't a get rich proposition for people like him. There's no oil, no diamonds or gold yet for way over 70 years 1,000s upon 1,000s of people from all over the world have been working their entire lives tediously to solve as many of these problems as possible. I think that's what's fascinating. And there is a major by-product from those motivated minds working and testing theories whether they work or fail, out springs solutions to age old problems that haven't been solved in centuries with noses to the dirt thinking up a brainstorm. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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This week marks the 25th anniversary of the launch of SOHO. “At the time SOHO was designed, very few people talked or thought about space weather,” SOHO Project Scientist Bernhard Fleck at ESA said. “But now, I look at SOHO observations like weather radar. Now it is as normal as opening your weather app and checking when the rain is coming.” This ability is due to SOHO’s coronagraphs, specialized telescopes that block the bright face of the Sun to allow for better visibility of the faint light extending from the star. SOHO’s Large Angle and Spectrometric Coronagraph, known as LASCO, provides a 360-degree view of the atmosphere around the Sun. LASCO was especially useful in viewing Earth-bound storms called halo CMEs – so called because when one views a CME barreling toward us on Earth, it appears circular, surrounding the Sun, much like watching a balloon inflate by viewing the top of the balloon. Before SOHO, the scientific community debated whether or not it was even possible to witness a CME coming straight toward us, but today, LASCO images are the backbone of space weather prediction models. They are regularly used in forecasting the impacts of space weather events traveling toward Earth. “Having a coronagraph observing all around the Sun helped us to see CMEs coming toward us,” said Terry Kucera, astrophysicist in NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center's Solar Physics Laboratory in Greenbelt, Maryland. “That’s been really critical in understanding space weather and allowing scientists to study how CMEs affect us here on Earth.” Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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There have been three successful missions to the moon’s surface following the 1970s. All three are Chinese. A Chinese mission is also on its way to Mars, where it will attempt the country’s first landing on another planet next year. No other country has successfully landed on the moon since the Soviet Union’s Luna 24 spacecraft in 1976. Two attempts last year — one by an Israeli nonprofit and one by India’s space agency — ended in failure, with both crashing. NASA intends to return astronauts to the moon later this decade, but has intermediate plans to pay commercial companies to land robotic payloads on the lunar surface, which could begin next year. Dec. 2, 2020 Chang’e-5 will soon attempt to dock in lunar orbit with another spacecraft, ahead of returning a cache of moon rocks and dirt to scientists on our planet. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Tissue chips and organoids: SpaceX is launching lots of science to space for NASA on Sunday By Amy Thompson First Published 14 hours ago The upgraded Dragon cargo capsule that will launch atop a veteran SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket is filled with 6,400 lbs. (2,903 kilograms) of supplies and science investigations. The research gear will support a variety of experiments in the life sciences, regenerative medicine and many other fields. Several of the payloads on Dragon feature a unique piece of hardware called a tissue chip. Human cells and tissue grow on the chip scaffold, creating a 3D structure in microgravity that researchers can observe to learn more about how fundamental processes work in space, including aging and bone and muscle loss. The investigation will take stem cells and convert them into brain cells that will form three-dimensional structures called brain organoids. Stored in a special container called a well, these types of mini organs are able to mimic both the cellular variety and the function of the developing human brain. This type of research could help NASA and its partners prepare for crewed missions to distant destinations such as Mars, which will expose astronauts to the rigors of space for long stretches, and also help combat degenerative brain disease here on Earth, researchers said. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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"Music gives a soul to the universe, wings to the mind, flight to the imagination and life to everything." --Plato
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purplethunder3121 said:
I loved that movie. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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On a more mundane note...he is taking his enterprise and himself out of California and moving it to Austin, Texas where they are more business-friendly. (Also, no State tax v 13% in CA) | |
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The tax situation didn't suddenly change from when he originally decided to move his company here. It the covid mandates he's pissed about and has been very vocal about. The powers that be aren't making exceptions for him.
A California state panel on Friday rejected a request from Elon Musk's SpaceX for $655,500 in state job and training funds, citing the chief executive's recent threats to move Tesla, the electric carmaker that he also runs, out of the state. The snub comes as Musk has sparred with officials in Alameda County over his plans to resume production at the Tesla plant there, which was stopped because of the coronavirus. The funding from the state employment development fund was supposed to help SpaceX train 900 employees for its Starlink satellite project and hire 300 to work on its Starship program. It was unclear whether SpaceX intends to move forward with its hiring plan after Friday's rejection. [Edited 12/7/20 9:30am] Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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Elon Musk has a lovely transhumanism agenda. He's the media darling people like you love. He's using your taxes so he's enslaving you already, but there is a bigger agenda. I'd love to say more, but as usual, I'll get my posts deleted by an airhead... | |
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tump said:
Elon Musk has a lovely transhumanism agenda. He's the media darling people like you love. He's using your taxes so he's enslaving you already, but there is a bigger agenda. I'd love to say more, but as usual, I'll get my posts deleted by an airhead... Personally I think Elon is weird af and needs to be carefully watched. I'm glad he's on a leash, I pray it stays that way. The stuff that comes out of his mouth sometimes. But he's got the resources that aren't going to be pulled 100% from tax dollars to take us thru and into the 21st-22nd century. This stuff is happening and I'm interested in those paying attention. Its quite obvious this is not the place but one has hope. Every once in a blue moon. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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I would be more interested in a flyby of the far side of the moon and then orbit around venus then back home. No pesky landing issues on other planets. flowing through the veins of the tree of life...purplemaplesyrup | |
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PURplEMaPLeSyrup said: I would be more interested in a flyby of the far side of the moon and then orbit around venus then back home. No pesky landing issues on other planets. You'd be more into Jeff Bezo's Blue Origin project. Seems they're gearing up a Blue Moon project that'll be delivering supplies to the Moon, who knows what else. Would it be possible for NASA to abandon the Gateway and its mission architecture entirely? Critics say that technological alternatives are emerging in the commercial space sector. They look to Blue Origin, the space company founded by Amazon billionaire Jeff Bezos and based near Seattle. Blue Origin is building both a reusable heavy-lift rocket, called New Glenn, and a lunar lander known as Blue Moon. Time keeps on slipping into the future...
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