no one died!

XxAxX said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

XxAxX said:

no one died!

Well someone died

sorry! it wouldn't be the walking dead if no one died.

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cool recap with commentary from norman reedus: http://www.ew.com/article...-interview

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excerpted

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At the very end we heard some voice saying “Help” on the other end of the walkie-talkie. What can you say about that and what’s coming up next?
I will say that voice is not Glenn.

I’m sure that’s what people were wondering.
It’s not Glenn. But it’s probably somebody at Alexandria with all we know that’s happening there.

I’m curious what you guys have been making of the reaction by everybody over whether Glenn is dead or not, because it has been pretty insane and I’m sure you all have been taking note of that.
I had the same reaction. He’s such a beloved character and such a good friend of mine. You know, I saw what I saw in that episode. And I was in that episode. And I was still pissed off at the end of the episode. I was in shock, and I was there! So I felt it too. You see what you see and that’s the point. If it hurts, it hurts. And if it’s shocking, it’s shocking. You’re supposed to feel the pain. That’s the idea. I heard that people are taking pictures of themselves under dumpsters and putting them on the Internet and saying, “See, I can get out of this!”

I turned that episode off when it was done and kind of walked around my room and was cursing at the floor. I was kind of in shock. Like I said, I was in the episode and I felt like that, so that’s just the level of stuff we’re doing right now. It’s shocking and it’s full of fear and full of disbelief and you don’t want to believe things that you see. So that means we’re doing a good job, I think.

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

now that was a quality episode

Yes, excellent episode last night. This one should had been 90 minutes long but nonetheless, it was still great. Daryl is still learning I see. Can't give everyone the benefit of the doubt, still. And yes, we will see those two again somewhere down the line...and they WILL be sorry. I love how this show has the most unlikeliest characters hooking up or "potentially" hooking up. Abraham and Sasha? Who knew.

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missfee said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

now that was a quality episode

Yes, excellent episode last night. This one should had been 90 minutes long but nonetheless, it was still great. Daryl is still learning I see. Can't give everyone the benefit of the doubt, still. And yes, we will see those two again somewhere down the line...and they WILL be sorry. I love how this show has the most unlikeliest characters hooking up or "potentially" hooking up. Abaham and Sasha? Who knew.

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maybe it's like "i wouldn't smooch you if you were the last... oh. wait......."

XxAxX said:

missfee said:

morningsong said:

missfee said:

Yes, excellent episode last night. This one should had been 90 minutes long but nonetheless, it was still great. Daryl is still learning I see. Can't give everyone the benefit of the doubt, still. Angd yes, we will see those two again somewhere down the line...and they WILL be sorry. I love how this show has the most unlikeliest characters hooking up or "potentially" hooking up. Abaham and Sasha? Who knew.

Yeah it seems like they've been implying a possible "ship" since the beginning of this season, but given how things are going I'm leery about where its actually going.

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butting in to say: i'm still a bit uneasy about abraham's earlier season five flashbacks of violence, the dark haired woman and her children, cowering in fear from him.......

XxAxX said:

^ for sure. i had a flash of 'oh man, the neighbors are not gonna like this' as that mess of walkers went heading off ....

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XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

missfee said: Yeah it seems like they've been implying a possible "ship" since the beginning of this season, but given how things are going I'm leery about where its actually going.

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butting in to say: i'm still a bit uneasy about abraham's earlier season five flashbacks of violence, the dark haired woman and her children, cowering in fear from him.......

I remember this....and I was getting excited about it too because I thought that they were going to explore more into his background as well as Eugene, but it seems as though we got that one time glimpse and the writers moved on to something else.

missfee said:

XxAxX said:

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butting in to say: i'm still a bit uneasy about abraham's earlier season five flashbacks of violence, the dark haired woman and her children, cowering in fear from him.......

I remember this....and I was getting excited about it too because I thought that they were going to explore more into his background as well as Eugene, but it seems as though we got that one time glimpse and the writers moved on to something else.

i hope so. i'm getting to really like abraham's character

XxAxX said:

no one died!

she did

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

missfee said: Yeah it seems like they've been implying a possible "ship" since the beginning of this season, but given how things are going I'm leery about where its actually going.

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butting in to say: i'm still a bit uneasy about abraham's earlier season five flashbacks of violence, the dark haired woman and her children, cowering in fear from him.......

In season 5 deleted scenes it showed Abraham not wanting to go outside the walls of Alexandria

kpowers said:

XxAxX said:

no one died!

she did

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i know. i'm sorry. it's not that i didn't notice her death, it's that she was *just* a part time role bad guy who treated daryl badly. it was almost a relief to see her go and realize we were watching a Day no Major Characters Would Die. sorry lisa tina

kpowers said:

XxAxX said:

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butting in to say: i'm still a bit uneasy about abraham's earlier season five flashbacks of violence, the dark haired woman and her children, cowering in fear from him.......

In season 5 deleted scenes it showed Abraham not wanting to go outside the walls of Alexandria

i think we might see him snap eventually. i keep hearing that the writers put in plot points looooong before they are used and never waste a single symbol. maybe abraham's flashbacks were limited, merely a way of acquainting us with the tragedy of his general backstory, but i dunno

XxAxX said:

kpowers said:

In season 5 deleted scenes it showed Abraham not wanting to go outside the walls of Alexandria

i think we might see him snap eventually. i keep hearing that the writers put in plot points looooong before they are used and never waste a single symbol. maybe abraham's flashbacks were limited, merely a way of acquainting us with the tragedy of his general backstory, but i dunno

He did look good in that uniform, but that mustache has got to go.

XxAxX said:

kpowers said:

In season 5 deleted scenes it showed Abraham not wanting to go outside the walls of Alexandria

i think we might see him snap eventually. i keep hearing that the writers put in plot points looooong before they are used and never waste a single symbol. maybe abraham's flashbacks were limited, merely a way of acquainting us with the tragedy of his general backstory, but i dunno

I thought it was just a general flashback of his story. That was his wife and kids.

missfee said:

XxAxX said:

i think we might see him snap eventually. i keep hearing that the writers put in plot points looooong before they are used and never waste a single symbol. maybe abraham's flashbacks were limited, merely a way of acquainting us with the tragedy of his general backstory, but i dunno

He did look good in that uniform, but that mustache has got to go.

the mustache! it's funny, but when i watch *abraham* i am a little repulsed by the 'stache but when i watch michael cudlitz i find the man attractive.

OldFriends4Sale said:

XxAxX said:

i think we might see him snap eventually. i keep hearing that the writers put in plot points looooong before they are used and never waste a single symbol. maybe abraham's flashbacks were limited, merely a way of acquainting us with the tragedy of his general backstory, but i dunno

I thought it was just a general flashback of his story. That was his wife and kids.

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i think you're right. did some checking and according to michael cudlitz the purpose of that backstory was to explain why abraham was where he was (suicidal) when eugene found him:

excerpted from: http://www.ew.com/article...-self-help

'The Walking Dead' star Michael Cudlitz explains Abraham's shocking flashbacks

And we see that through these flashbacks. Let’s talk about those: We see the flashbacks with Abraham’s family. He has to do terrible things to protect them, so terrible that his own family is too scared to be with him.

.He has basically become what he is protecting them from. That horrifies his family. They don’t know who to be more afraid of, and because of that they wind up leaving. And all he’s trying to do is protect his family from, unfortunately, the group. The way it plays out in the comic is that this is actually the group that he has been traveling with. He goes out on a scavenger mission, comes back, and finds out that members of the group have raped his wife and his daughter, and made his son watch. And then he basically has a dismantling party on those members of the group. What happens is his wife basically says, “You have become worse than them.” And she leaves. And he can’t find them. He finally does find them, comes across them, and they’ve all been killed by walkers. In the comics — which I don’t think was necessary to do and I’m glad we chose to tell it the way we did, because I think there’s more of an emotional punch when you see something visually and there is a line that can be crossed — in the comics, actually, his wife and his son had been eaten so badly that there is nothing left to come back, and his daughter did come back and he winds up having to shoot her in the face. And that’s in the Robert Kirkman graphic novel. I think we’ve successfully captured the emotion of what went down with his family, and then also what has spurred him into action from taking his own life, when he has nothing left to live for, which was a mission that was outside of himself, bigger than himself, bigger than his family, and this is sort of his way to redeem himself for something that he thinks he’s caused, which was the death of his family.

Lets talk about that, where he gets to this lowest point where he finds his dead family and is about to turn the gun on himself. At that point, before he meets Eugene, we see him put the gun in his mouth — has he just lost all purpose?
There’s nothing left. There’s nothing left to his group, there’s nothing left to his family, there’s nothing left to live for.

It’s done.
Yep, it’s completely finished. At the moment he is pulling the trigger, someone needs help, and it is in his core to help. He is a soldier. He is a service-giver at this core. And he can’t even stop himself from helping him. But then he’s going to go right back to finishing himself after he’s helped this person — until something is given to him which is beyond him and beyond his family. It is a mission, and he responds in his DNA and on a genetic level to that word “mission,” because that is who he is.

XxAxX said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought it was just a general flashback of his story. That was his wife and kids.

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i think you're right. did some checking and according to michael cudlitz the purpose of that backstory was to explain why abraham was where he was (suicidal) when eugene found him:

excerpted from: http://www.ew.com/article...-self-help

'The Walking Dead' star Michael Cudlitz explains Abraham's shocking flashbacks

And we see that through these flashbacks. Let’s talk about those: We see the flashbacks with Abraham’s family. He has to do terrible things to protect them, so terrible that his own family is too scared to be with him.

.He has basically become what he is protecting them from. That horrifies his family. They don’t know who to be more afraid of, and because of that they wind up leaving. And all he’s trying to do is protect his family from, unfortunately, the group. The way it plays out in the comic is that this is actually the group that he has been traveling with. He goes out on a scavenger mission, comes back, and finds out that members of the group have raped his wife and his daughter, and made his son watch. And then he basically has a dismantling party on those members of the group. What happens is his wife basically says, “You have become worse than them.” And she leaves. And he can’t find them. He finally does find them, comes across them, and they’ve all been killed by walkers. In the comics — which I don’t think was necessary to do and I’m glad we chose to tell it the way we did, because I think there’s more of an emotional punch when you see something visually and there is a line that can be crossed — in the comics, actually, his wife and his son had been eaten so badly that there is nothing left to come back, and his daughter did come back and he winds up having to shoot her in the face. And that’s in the Robert Kirkman graphic novel. I think we’ve successfully captured the emotion of what went down with his family, and then also what has spurred him into action from taking his own life, when he has nothing left to live for, which was a mission that was outside of himself, bigger than himself, bigger than his family, and this is sort of his way to redeem himself for something that he thinks he’s caused, which was the death of his family.

Lets talk about that, where he gets to this lowest point where he finds his dead family and is about to turn the gun on himself. At that point, before he meets Eugene, we see him put the gun in his mouth — has he just lost all purpose?
There’s nothing left. There’s nothing left to his group, there’s nothing left to his family, there’s nothing left to live for.

It’s done.
Yep, it’s completely finished. At the moment he is pulling the trigger, someone needs help, and it is in his core to help. He is a soldier. He is a service-giver at this core. And he can’t even stop himself from helping him. But then he’s going to go right back to finishing himself after he’s helped this person — until something is given to him which is beyond him and beyond his family. It is a mission, and he responds in his DNA and on a genetic level to that word “mission,” because that is who he is.

Wow.

XxAxX said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I thought it was just a general flashback of his story. That was his wife and kids.

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i think you're right. did some checking and according to michael cudlitz the purpose of that backstory was to explain why abraham was where he was (suicidal) when eugene found him:

excerpted from: http://www.ew.com/article...-self-help

'The Walking Dead' star Michael Cudlitz explains Abraham's shocking flashbacks

And we see that through these flashbacks. Let’s talk about those: We see the flashbacks with Abraham’s family. He has to do terrible things to protect them, so terrible that his own family is too scared to be with him.

.He has basically become what he is protecting them from. That horrifies his family. They don’t know who to be more afraid of, and because of that they wind up leaving. And all he’s trying to do is protect his family from, unfortunately, the group. The way it plays out in the comic is that this is actually the group that he has been traveling with. He goes out on a scavenger mission, comes back, and finds out that members of the group have raped his wife and his daughter, and made his son watch. And then he basically has a dismantling party on those members of the group. What happens is his wife basically says, “You have become worse than them.” And she leaves. And he can’t find them. He finally does find them, comes across them, and they’ve all been killed by walkers. In the comics — which I don’t think was necessary to do and I’m glad we chose to tell it the way we did, because I think there’s more of an emotional punch when you see something visually and there is a line that can be crossed — in the comics, actually, his wife and his son had been eaten so badly that there is nothing left to come back, and his daughter did come back and he winds up having to shoot her in the face. And that’s in the Robert Kirkman graphic novel. I think we’ve successfully captured the emotion of what went down with his family, and then also what has spurred him into action from taking his own life, when he has nothing left to live for, which was a mission that was outside of himself, bigger than himself, bigger than his family, and this is sort of his way to redeem himself for something that he thinks he’s caused, which was the death of his family.

Lets talk about that, where he gets to this lowest point where he finds his dead family and is about to turn the gun on himself. At that point, before he meets Eugene, we see him put the gun in his mouth — has he just lost all purpose?
There’s nothing left. There’s nothing left to his group, there’s nothing left to his family, there’s nothing left to live for.

It’s done.
Yep, it’s completely finished. At the moment he is pulling the trigger, someone needs help, and it is in his core to help. He is a soldier. He is a service-giver at this core. And he can’t even stop himself from helping him. But then he’s going to go right back to finishing himself after he’s helped this person — until something is given to him which is beyond him and beyond his family. It is a mission, and he responds in his DNA and on a genetic level to that word “mission,” because that is who he is.

Explains why he went through what he went through finding out the truth about Eugene.

XxAxX said:

kpowers said:

she did

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i know. i'm sorry. it's not that i didn't notice her death, it's that she was *just* a part time role bad guy who treated daryl badly. it was almost a relief to see her go and realize we were watching a Day no Major Characters Would Die. sorry lisa tina

I still haven't gotten over Tabitha's death

I loved the Morgan's episodes were great, not boring as some say.

kpowers said:

XxAxX said:

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i know. i'm sorry. it's not that i didn't notice her death, it's that she was *just* a part time role bad guy who treated daryl badly. it was almost a relief to see her go and realize we were watching a Day no Major Characters Would Die. sorry lisa tina

I still haven't gotten over Tabitha's death

Ruby the goat's acting career is on an uptick! listen as Ruby's colleagues on TWD discuss her handling of the role of tabitha and her talent in the clip below.

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So.....I could be looking more into this than I should, but I looked on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon app to see what guests he'll be having on the show next week (as I normally do every week) and it said:

Danai Gurira on Tuesday night 11/24/15

Steven Yeun on Wednesday night 11/25/15

I sure hope this doesn't mean that they both will be killed off the show. Just sayin'. It's awfully strange that they would schedule to main characters of the show back to back. But again, I could be alarmed for nothing.

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i'll just come out and say it - i don't want ANYone to die tonight. it's been a rough week in reality land, terrorism, desperate people marching through cruel territory, economic turbulence, cold freaking weather and tomorrow is monday. so you know what? i'd like a nice, quiet, cheery episode tonight. no more gloomy violin arpeggios to accompany our characters, let's have some nice polka music. or accordion. let's see maggie and deanna plant a garden. with flowers. i want to see rick and jessie sneak off into a hayloft with a bottle of wine, daryl and carol play poker all night and carl teach judith how to say dada. let the sun rise all pearly and glenn come whistling home, driving a huge semi trailer full of medical supplies and food and no one dies. wouldn't that be nice??