Will "jumping the shark" be replaced with "Jumping on the dragon"?

missfee said:

Mannnnn....I need Bran to magically appear to crush both Stannis and The Boltons' to take back Winterfell cause after tonight Stannis can go fuck himself. And that red witch bitch needs to be burned at the stake. I'll give my full synopsis tomorrow. Right now I'm pissed as shit. This is the weakest episode #9 in GoT history.

tonight was the best and worst things ive ever seen on tv in this episode. o.m.g. im exhausted!

morningsong said:

Who'd of thought Roose had the softer heart concerning concerning family? There's ice water in them veins. Well don't mess with mama. Better version in my opinion.

Roose would give up Ramsey in a heartbeat if that meant that he could have a guarateed seat on the Iron Throne. I'd say Stannis and Roose are neck and neck with their ruthlessness.

Hypocrisy. How do you assure your young daughter that you love and believe in her only to turn on her just so that you can have the Iron Throne? The disgust. How cowardly was it for Stannis to send Davros on a BS mission just to get him out of the way because he knew that Davros would not have stood for that decision. As far as I'm concerned, both Stannis and Melisandre can burn at the stake. I no longer care who wins the battle between Stannis and Roose. They can kill each other.

The storyline in Dorne still bores me. I thought that the twist was going to be that Bronn was going to have to marry one of the sand snakes. Hmph oh well.

So what was Arya trying to do? I thought she was purposely making herself known to Meryn to give him poisoned oysters and finally off him. Urgh. They are really dragging this out.

I wonder what's going to happen next with Jon and the Night's Watch since the bulk of his brothers despise him for bringing the Wilding's back.

Onto the great ending. I'm guessing that this is what should had been the big moment in tradition of all of the episode #9 in GoT but for me, it was lukewarm. It was predictable that her dragon was coming to save them...I mean at this point, we all know that they aren't going to kill Dany off, so that was the only foreseeable choice of what was going to happen. I think it would had been hot shit if Drogon would had spit fire across the whole entire stadium saving Dany and her council, but the few balls of fire he spat was pretty good to see I guess. I wasn't all that amaze balls that she flew off with Drogon, I mean c'mon, you leave the folks that was trying to protect you behind? Guess no back seats were available on Drogon's back. I hope that NOW she goes and releases the other two dragons.

Hard to believe that this season is over already with the last one to be aired next week.

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missfee said:

All I have to say about this last episode is that Stannis Barratheon is a piece of shit.

A few thoughts on "Dance With Dragons," or as I am now calling it, "Live At The Barbeque":

- He may have to go, but Ramsay Snow is a ruthlessly smart tactician. The sabotage raid he went on would in most circumstances be a death blow for the Baratheon Army.

- The interplay between Shireen and Davos, who actually acts like a father to her, was as touching and ominous. Stannis knew what he was doing when he sent Davos back to Castle Black. He didn't WANT to be talked out of what he was going to do, and Davos knew it.

It made me think . . . if Shireen had not taught Davos how to read, Stannis might have never known about the Walker threat or raised his army, much less been in position to march on Winterfell. And then we came to the moment when Staninis is no longer the Mannis. He's Satan-nis. In a show filled with tragic murders, Shireen's was the worst.

- Arya finally sees Meryn Trant. What's going to happen now that she knows his "proclivities"?

- We get our second consecutive epic sequence in the fighting pits. The staging reminded me of Attack of the Clones. But the last 20 minutes had it all: Great exchanges among Hizdar, Daario, Dany and Tyrion. Jorah proves his skill and redeems himself (after a close call). The Sons strike and Hizdar goes down. Dany and the Imp look finished. Enter The Drogon! For a second week, a force of nature saves the "heroes" -- last week, Wun Wun, this week, Drogon.

Ok, play time.

"Live at the Barbeque" you wrong






Sorry. But they made me laugh.

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Stannis may be ruthless, but Ramsay is ruthless and cunning. Will see if Stannis sacrifice pays off? I'm guessing not. Ramsay's dad might be killed off do to the sacrifice, but they still have Ramsay to deal with. I enjoyed the show even though it was hard to watch the sacrifice aka murder of the daughter.

I also think this force that Stannis is dealing with is the "devil," were you are tricked into giving everything up to get the one thing you want. Which in the end will kill him and everything he wanted or loved.

I didn't think Stannis would sacrafice his daughter until he sent Davros away.

That was painful to watch. Made me sick. I think it really was the worst moment I have ever seen in any TV show or movie, ever.

namepeace said:

A few thoughts on "Dance With Dragons," or as I am now calling it, "Live At The Barbeque":

I call it "Dance with the Devil".

- He may have to go, but Ramsay Snow is a ruthlessly smart tactician. The sabotage raid he went on would in most circumstances be a death blow for the Baratheon Army.
No doubt he's smart, however, still sadistic. It doesn't make much sense to me that Stannis couldn't figure out who did the raid.

- The interplay between Shireen and Davos, who actually acts like a father to her, was as touching and ominous. Stannis knew what he was doing when he sent Davos back to Castle Black. He didn't WANT to be talked out of what he was going to do, and Davos knew it.
That's what makes Stannis a coward. He purposely sent Davos away because he knew deep down what he was planning to do was morally wrong, however, he's willing to sell his soul and apparently burn his daughter to get what he feels he's entitled to have. Davos knew something was up. The way he was talking to Shireen, I believe that he knew that there was a possiblity that he would never see her again...especially when Stannis insisted that she stay with him.

It made me think . . . if Shireen had not taught Davos how to read, Stannis might have never known about the Walker threat or raised his army, much less been in position to march on Winterfell. And then we came to the moment when Staninis is no longer the Mannis. He's Satan-nis. In a show filled with tragic murders, Shireen's was the worst.
I have to admit, Shireen's death scene damn near had me in tears. Her screams for her parents, especially her father who didn't even flinch, urgh.

- Arya finally sees Meryn Trant. What's going to happen now that she knows his "proclivities"?
Not too sure. Perhaps she'll find a way to pop up in the brothel, get him alone and mark him off her "kill list". But I"m pretty sure that J'aghar knows that she was lying to him. Wouldn't it be crazy to learn that J'aghar is actually the "Thin Man" and has been watching Arya the whole time?

- We get our second consecutive epic sequence in the fighting pits. The staging reminded me of Attack of the Clones. But the last 20 minutes had it all: Great exchanges among Hizdar, Daario, Dany and Tyrion. Jorah proves his skill and redeems himself (after a close call). The Sons strike and Hizdar goes down. Dany and the Imp look finished. Enter The Drogon! For a second week, a force of nature saves the "heroes" -- last week, Wun Wun, this week, Drogon.
I was actually impressed that Tyrion jumped in and did some killing himself. It reminded me of Blackwater. But I'm confused about the whole "Greyscale" disease and how it can be contagious. So remember back when Jorah and Tyrion were fighting the infected stone men, Jorah told Tyrion to not let the stone men touch him. Then fast forward to the fighting pits and the sons of Harpy scene when Jorah takes Dany's hand. That was skin to skin contact. So how is she not infected by greyscale since she touch Jorah's skin?

missfee said:

I'm confused about the whole "Greyscale" disease and how it can be contagious. So remember back when Jorah and Tyrion were fighting the infected stone men, Jorah told Tyrion to not let the stone men touch him. Then fast forward to the fighting pits and the sons of Harpy scene when Jorah takes Dany's hand. That was skin to skin contact. So how is she not infected by greyscale since she touch Jorah's skin?

From what I've read in the recaps, she would need to contact the infected area of the carrier. Someone else I talked to suggested that her immunity to fire suggests she can resist it. I think the first theory is the better one.

Phishanga said:

That was painful to watch. Made me sick. I think it really was the worst moment I have ever seen in any TV show or movie, ever.

I thought that was a lot more distressing to watch the daughter's terror and then to hear her screams as she was burned alive than all this commotion about the rape scene of Sansa Stark... There was no Jon Snow to mercifully put an arrow through heart like he did with the Wildling leader.

purplethunder3121 said:

Phishanga said:

That was painful to watch. Made me sick. I think it really was the worst moment I have ever seen in any TV show or movie, ever.

I thought that was a lot more distressing to watch the daughter's terror and then to hear her screams as she was burned alive than all this commotion about the rape scene of Sansa Stark... There was no Jon Snow to mercifully put an arrow through heart like he did with the Wildling leader.

I'd have to agree.

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thedoorkeeper said:

I've read the books and in the books she rides off on the dragons back with her hair on fire. I was disappointed when that didn't happen. But so many things have been changed from the books I wasn't surprised.

Now you know they're not going to mess with Dany's hair, they work too hard to get those braids and spirals to frame her face just so. They are always perfect.

The entire reason that Drogon showed up was changed to get the audience's heart, it is kind of hard once you've read the book to figure out which way it's going, since the show needs to take serious short cuts. I've pretty much thrown my hands up.

morningsong said:

thedoorkeeper said:

I've read the books and in the books she rides off on the dragons back with her hair on fire. I was disappointed when that didn't happen. But so many things have been changed from the books I wasn't surprised.

Now you know they're not going to mess with Dany's hair, they work too hard to get those braids and spirals to frame her face just so. They are always perfect.

The entire reason that Drogon showed up was changed to get the audience's heart, it is kind of hard once you've read the book to figure out which way it's going, since the show needs to take serious short cuts. I've pretty much thrown my hands up.

Films and TV shows are always going to take liberties with the source material to make it palatable for the audiences. GoT's added problem is that GRRM -- who keeps his own for understandable reasons -- can't keep up with the show.

But I'm curious, what was the reason Drogon showed up in the books?

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namepeace said:

morningsong said:

Now you know they're not going to mess with Dany's hair, they work too hard to get those braids and spirals to frame her face just so. They are always perfect.

The entire reason that Drogon showed up was changed to get the audience's heart, it is kind of hard once you've read the book to figure out which way it's going, since the show needs to take serious short cuts. I've pretty much thrown my hands up.

Films and TV shows are always going to take liberties with the source material to make it palatable for the audiences. GoT's added problem is that GRRM -- who keeps his own for understandable reasons -- can't keep up with the show.

But I'm curious, what was the reason Drogon showed up in the books?

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Even though GRRM has fallen behind, the books seems to have taken a sharp left turn and have become more convoluted, so I can understand at this point the tv show is basically making their own story, hopefully arriving at the same conclusion when it's all said and done. I'm not knocking the show for it's liberties at this point. There are interesting surprises obviously now.

My understanding, was Drogon was attracted to the blood and fight of the arena, and wasn't being particularly discretionary about who he was setting on fire which is why Dany ended up on his back, more like she was trying to protect and control him. Remember he's been accused of killing some small children as well as livestock. And though her life was in danger it was far more subtle, poison, not an attack. And though Tyrion and Jorah were there, Dany hasn't had an audience with either of them, so Tyrion hasn't met her let alone become her advisor. Just thought I'd throw that in.

morningsong said:

Even though GRRM has fallen behind, the books seems to have taken a sharp left turn and have become more convoluted, so I can understand at this point the tv show is basically making their own story, hopefully arriving at the same conclusion when it's all said and done. I'm not knocking the show for it's liberties at this point. There are interesting surprises obviously now.

I see, good points.

My understanding, was Drogon was attracted to the blood and fight of the arena, and wasn't being particularly discretionary about who he was setting on fire which is why Dany ended up on his back, more like she was trying to protect and control him. Remember he's been accused of killing some small children as well as livestock. And though her life was in danger it was far more subtle, poison, not an attack. And though Tyrion and Jorah were there, Dany hasn't had an audience with either of them, so Tyrion hasn't met her let alone become her advisor. Just thought I'd throw that in.

Thanks, that's what I wanted to know; interesting.

It made me laugh.

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I don't believe it.

Bryan Cranston to star in 'Game of Thrones' Season 6. After weeks of secret negotiations, HBO has announced that Breaking Bad star Bryan Cranston will

"Star" as in show up for 2 episode be on screen a total of 10 minutes and end up with a sword thru him.

SPOILER ALERT: The main person they killed off in the end of the finale will be brought back to life by dark magic or so I predict.

This show is starting to lose me. Seems like they just get off on "Who can we kill off next that they wont suspect?" It worked the fisrt couple of times, but now it just seems silly. I'll be back next season, of course...but I think I'm going to start reading the books now rather than later. This shit just aint makin sense....