namepeace said:

missfee said

Blackwater was a beast!!!! . . . as far as I'm concerned, the best episode of the whole series. It seemed as though the "Watchers on the Wall" episode last season was with the intentions of topping "Blackwater"...but umm no sir. . . . I doubt that episode 9 will top anything we've seen before, but I do believe that a major tragedy, of some sort, will occur. Perhaps somebody will finally off Ramsey, but that's way too predictable and most likely won't happen. We do have to have somebody to hate on there.

To me, "Baelor" IS the show. Blackwater is the most spectacular ep ever, and definitely top 3. But Baelor, to me, is one of the greatest episodes of TV ever. It is still the defining event of the story itself, turns the classic storylines on their head, and upped the ante for TV as a whole.

(Just my choice. Can't argue with Blackwater choice. To me, Blackwater, Baelor, and Rains of Castamere have legit arguments for best GoT episode.)

Hey it's all good. For me, Baelor is tied with the Rains of Castamere. Blackwater is the episode that solidified my fandom of the series.

namepeace said:

UncleJam said:

I wanted to slap Theon/Reek Sunday night...but it's coming...Ramsey will die (he better)!

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He's fully broken, and when he was whole, he was never particularly strong or loyal. Not surprised. The "bad" guys never fully get what they deserve in GoT, but Stannis is taking a shot.

Theon/Reek is quite interesting. As you said, when he was whole, he wasn't strong nor loyal, in fact he was really just a big dummy, but now that he's "broken" as Reek, it appears that he is loyal (to Ramsey) and "strong" to an extent, as in playing the part of Reek to a tee (to prevent more physical torture). So in essence, his "brokenness" has smartened him up a bit. Alfie Allen is working wonders playing that role. He's good.

missfee said:

namepeace said:

To me, "Baelor" IS the show. Blackwater is the most spectacular ep ever, and definitely top 3. But Baelor, to me, is one of the greatest episodes of TV ever. It is still the defining event of the story itself, turns the classic storylines on their head, and upped the ante for TV as a whole.

(Just my choice. Can't argue with Blackwater choice. To me, Blackwater, Baelor, and Rains of Castamere have legit arguments for best GoT episode.)

Hey it's all good. For me, Baelor is tied with the Rains of Castamere. Blackwater is the episode that solidified my fandom of the series.

Blackwater and the episode that followed were defining episodes for Tyrion, Cersei, Sansa, The Hound, Joffrey and Stannis. I think it put GoT on the pop culture map for good.

Interesting how Stannis was the "Big Bad" 3 years ago, and now many (including me) think he's the best hope for Westeros, at least in the short term.

missfee said:

Theon/Reek is quite interesting. As you said, when he was whole, he wasn't strong nor loyal, in fact he was really just a big dummy, but now that he's "broken" as Reek, it appears that he is loyal (to Ramsey) and "strong" to an extent, as in playing the part of Reek to a tee (to prevent more physical torture). So in essence, his "brokenness" has smartened him up a bit. Alfie Allen is working wonders playing that role. He's good.

This is his best season on the show. I thought his scene *during* Sansa's wedding in "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" was maybe his best, without even much dialogue.

namepeace said:

missfee said:

Theon/Reek is quite interesting. As you said, when he was whole, he wasn't strong nor loyal, in fact he was really just a big dummy, but now that he's "broken" as Reek, it appears that he is loyal (to Ramsey) and "strong" to an extent, as in playing the part of Reek to a tee (to prevent more physical torture). So in essence, his "brokenness" has smartened him up a bit. Alfie Allen is working wonders playing that role. He's good.

This is his best season on the show. I thought his scene *during* Sansa's wedding in "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" was maybe his best, without even much dialogue.

Oh hell yes

missfee said:

namepeace said:

Theon/Reek is quite interesting. As you said, when he was whole, he wasn't strong nor loyal, in fact he was really just a big dummy, but now that he's "broken" as Reek, it appears that he is loyal (to Ramsey) and "strong" to an extent, as in playing the part of Reek to a tee (to prevent more physical torture). So in essence, his "brokenness" has smartened him up a bit. Alfie Allen is working wonders playing that role. He's good.

If you ask me, Theon was broken from the beginning, when his dad allowed him to be "raised" by the Stark's. He was absolutely fine until his dad and sister let him know he wasnt shit...then he began to second guess himself, trying to prove he was still a Greyjoy.

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I think Bran's eventual return will be his saving grace.

Prediction: Stannis will win over the boltons. By using black magic (has wife killed or wife is killed by Ramsey secret raid and instead sacrifices daughter) to kill off Roose Bolton. Leaving Ramsey in charge.

I loved the last 2 episodes. The Queen thrown in prison was awesome. But when she is saved from their grips, she can claim that she tried to get the others out all along. She'll play the victim card.

Either they will storm the "church" or they will just kill off the witness that will testify against the Queen in order to save her.

kewlschool said:

Prediction: Stannis will win over the boltons. By using black magic (has wife killed or wife is killed by Ramsey secret raid and instead sacrifices daughter) to kill off Roose Bolton. Leaving Ramsey in charge.

I loved the last 2 episodes. The Queen thrown in prison was awesome. But when she is saved from their grips, she can claim that she tried to get the others out all along. She'll play the victim card.

Either they will storm the "church" or they will just kill off the witness that will testify against the Queen in order to save her.

Interesting prediction. I'll give my 2 cents in a few minutes.

Looks like things are finally heating up

I've got to start with the White Walkers and the Dead army. Jon definitely had the right idea, problem is, the dead army is bigger than the Night's Watch, the Wildings and all available men who would even be willing to fight. Although it was great seeing Jon's valyrian steel sword shatter one of the White Walker leaders, there's only one solution to this problem: Dany's dragons to spit huge fireballs at the White Walkers/Dead army and burn'em all. Still have to say though, the look of overwhelming defeat, and WTF-ness on Jon Snow's face at the end was priceless. Kit can act his ass off!

I relished in great joy seeing Cersei getting smacked in the face and slurping water from her jail cell floor. Priceless!

It appears that Arya is learning some new tricks by training for the Many Faced God. I'm just anxious to see how this fits in with everything else.

Including Tyrion on as an advisor is one of the smartest moves Dany has made. But poor Jorah. Even though he did betray her, I felt so sorry for him when she banished him away once again. I just wanted to give him a hug, poor fella.

Theon admitting to his awful mistakes was a pretty good scene. Glad that Sansa knows that she isn't the only Stark left (besides Jon).

I'm starting to feel really good about Stannis defeating the Boltons. Ramsey only needs "20 good men" to smash Stannis? Yeah okay Ramsey. No matter how vindictive and crazy Ramsey is, Stannis is not one to fuck with, no matter if he's losing men or not. Wouldn't it be crazy if Jon Snow was the one to kill Ramsey? Ahh man, that would be heavenly.

Only 2 episodes left....

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I was worried there for a minute after Sam said what he said, or rather the way he said it, something to the effect that Jon Snow always comes back. I was like, awww sh*t, really another Stark? Had me biting my nails hoping somebody would just knock Jon's over-achieving behind out and throw him in a boat. That was a no win situation right there. Had a twinge of Pirates of the Caribbean feel for a moment.



I am with Tyrion, I love Dany, but I really don't see her being a queen over Westeros, yes a queen somewhere else definitely, but her family did not build the 7 kingdoms they just ruled it the longest, all those names fighting for the throne now come from very long linages that actually built that empire. Outside of the threat of the whitewalkers and the fact that she has dragons I'm not sure what she brings to the table for them. They just need a strong honorable respectable king, and Robert wasn't it which is why its all screwed up now.

Curious about Arya storyline, but I have no clue how it's suppose to tie in.

about Cersei

missfee said:

Well, this series has played out like a game of Risk on a huge board, and after 5 seasons, everybody -- and I mean, everybody -- is moving closer to confrontation (or collaboration) with each other.

Looks like things are finally heating up

I've got to start with the White Walkers and the Dead army. Jon definitely had the right idea, problem is, the dead army is bigger than the Night's Watch, the Wildings and all available men who would even be willing to fight. Although it was great seeing Jon's valyrian steel sword shatter one of the White Walker leaders, there's only one solution to this problem: Dany's dragons to spit huge fireballs at the White Walkers/Dead army and burn'em all. Still have to say though, the look of overwhelming defeat, and WTF-ness on Jon Snow's face at the end was priceless. Kit can act his ass off!

Harrington's best episode to date. The last 2 minutes -- a king, and perhaps a would-be king, locking eyes for what surely won't be the last time -- were as good as they get on the show. As for the ultimate weapons for the Walker-Wight legions, I think a little assist from our Favorite Warg is going to be crucial.

I relished in great joy seeing Cersei getting smacked in the face and slurping water from her jail cell floor. Priceless!

You know, this show really challenges the autidence's appetite for revenge; that is, by the time they get it, you almost feel for them. Jaime really went through it and it changed him. Will it change Cersei? In any event. Qyburn's chilling message -- "the work continues," should remind us to #WatchTheSheet.

It appears that Arya is learning some new tricks by training for the Many Faced God. I'm just anxious to see how this fits in with everything else.

We may not really know until S6.

Including Tyrion on as an advisor is one of the smartest moves Dany has made. But poor Jorah. Even though he did betray her, I felt so sorry for him when she banished him away once again. I just wanted to give him a hug, poor fella.

Jorah has a death sentence, and Tyrion unwittingly gave him a dignified out. Tyrion and Dany were as great as advertised.

Theon admitting to his awful mistakes was a pretty good scene. Glad that Sansa knows that she isn't the only Stark left (besides Jon).

One of the recaps said that, even Sansa's good news reveals horrible things (the burned farm children).

I'm starting to feel really good about Stannis defeating the Boltons. Ramsey only needs "20 good men" to smash Stannis? Yeah okay Ramsey. No matter how vindictive and crazy Ramsey is, Stannis is not one to fuck with, no matter if he's losing men or not. Wouldn't it be crazy if Jon Snow was the one to kill Ramsey? Ahh man, that would be heavenly.

Ramsay is showing his impulsive side, and Roose just may consider him expendable enough to go on his suicide mission given his new wife is expecting. But the Boltons have NO idea of what's coming, Imagine Roose's poker face fading if he sees MY NEW S6 MVP CNDIDATE, the GIANT KNOWN AS "WUN WUN," charging the vaunted Winterfell Gates.

It may all depend on whether Jon can get his first in command to open Castle Black's gates. I think the young guy Sam talked to in the Black Watch may have a HUGE role to play.

Only 2 episodes left....

Indeed.

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missfee said:

Looks like things are finally heating up

I've got to start with the White Walkers and the Dead army. Jon definitely had the right idea, problem is, the dead army is bigger than the Night's Watch, the Wildings and all available men who would even be willing to fight. Although it was great seeing Jon's valyrian steel sword shatter one of the White Walker leaders, there's only one solution to this problem: Dany's dragons to spit huge fireballs at the White Walkers/Dead army and burn'em all. Still have to say though, the look of overwhelming defeat, and WTF-ness on Jon Snow's face at the end was priceless. Kit can act his ass off!

I relished in great joy seeing Cersei getting smacked in the face and slurping water from her jail cell floor. Priceless!

It appears that Arya is learning some new tricks by training for the Many Faced God. I'm just anxious to see how this fits in with everything else.

Including Tyrion on as an advisor is one of the smartest moves Dany has made. But poor Jorah. Even though he did betray her, I felt so sorry for him when she banished him away once again. I just wanted to give him a hug, poor fella.

Theon admitting to his awful mistakes was a pretty good scene. Glad that Sansa knows that she isn't the only Stark left (besides Jon).

I'm starting to feel really good about Stannis defeating the Boltons. Ramsey only needs "20 good men" to smash Stannis? Yeah okay Ramsey. No matter how vindictive and crazy Ramsey is, Stannis is not one to fuck with, no matter if he's losing men or not. Wouldn't it be crazy if Jon Snow was the one to kill Ramsey? Ahh man, that would be heavenly.

Only 2 episodes left....

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I think the raid will force Stannis to use black magic. Leaving the kingdom in charge of an impulsive hated leader Ramsey. Who will have trouble keeping people loyal to him.

But the producers said 5 characters would die this season.

I wonder how the whole story turns out for Jon Snow. I think he's set up more or less as THE hero but I guess in GoT, even his head can get chopped off the next minute. I don't want that.

Phishanga said:

I wonder how the whole story turns out for Jon Snow. I think he's set up more or less as THE hero but I guess in GoT, even his head can get chopped off the next minute. I don't want that.

That's why GoT is so damn good. No one is guaranteed to live, even if you can't see the show continuing on without certain characters.

namepeace said:

missfee said:

I've got to start with the White Walkers and the Dead army. Jon definitely had the right idea, problem is, the dead army is bigger than the Night's Watch, the Wildings and all available men who would even be willing to fight. Although it was great seeing Jon's valyrian steel sword shatter one of the White Walker leaders, there's only one solution to this problem: Dany's dragons to spit huge fireballs at the White Walkers/Dead army and burn'em all. Still have to say though, the look of overwhelming defeat, and WTF-ness on Jon Snow's face at the end was priceless. Kit can act his ass off!

Harrington's best episode to date. The last 2 minutes -- a king, and perhaps a would-be king, locking eyes for what surely won't be the last time -- were as good as they get on the show. As for the ultimate weapons for the Walker-Wight legions, I think a little assist from our Favorite Warg is going to be crucial.

"A King, and perhaps a would-be king...", I like that. Jon definitely has strong leadership skills and is more deserving to be looked upon as a king. Having Bran included in the mix, working with his brother, that would be heavenely...but as we all know in being fans of GoT, you never get what you want. Sad but true.

I relished in great joy seeing Cersei getting smacked in the face and slurping water from her jail cell floor. Priceless!

You know, this show really challenges the autidence's appetite for revenge; that is, by the time they get it, you almost feel for them. Jaime really went through it and it changed him. Will it change Cersei? In any event. Qyburn's chilling message -- "the work continues," should remind us to #WatchTheSheet.

That is so true. In re-watching the earlier seasons, Jaime really was an evil asshole. Well probably more asshole than evil. Who knew that a man getting his hand chopped off would bring about a positive change in such a brutish character. Theon "seems" to have changed since he has recognized his major faults and betrayals that he's responsible for but as for Cersei, she hasn't gone through enough brutatility yet to bring about such a change. And for all the misery that she's put others through, whatever she goes through still wouldn't be enough. A person who believes that they are more clever than anyone around them has serious issues and are quite dangerous. She may can manipulate Jaime all day long but could never outwit Tywin nor Tyrion, even on her worst day.

Including Tyrion on as an advisor is one of the smartest moves Dany has made. But poor Jorah. Even though he did betray her, I felt so sorry for him when she banished him away once again. I just wanted to give him a hug, poor fella.

Jorah has a death sentence, and Tyrion unwittingly gave him a dignified out. Tyrion and Dany were as great as advertised.

You know, I would certainly hate to see Jorah go, but I think this season may be the last that we will see of him.

I'm starting to feel really good about Stannis defeating the Boltons. Ramsey only needs "20 good men" to smash Stannis? Yeah okay Ramsey. No matter how vindictive and crazy Ramsey is, Stannis is not one to fuck with, no matter if he's losing men or not. Wouldn't it be crazy if Jon Snow was the one to kill Ramsey? Ahh man, that would be heavenly.

Ramsay is showing his impulsive side, and Roose just may consider him expendable enough to go on his suicide mission given his new wife is expecting. But the Boltons have NO idea of what's coming, Imagine Roose's poker face fading if he sees MY NEW S6 MVP CNDIDATE, the GIANT KNOWN AS "WUN WUN," charging the vaunted Winterfell Gates.

After watching the episode a 2nd time, Roose is definitely setting Ramsey up. I think his whole stance on "let's sit back and wait until Stannis reaches us" was all a ploy since he knew what Ramsey's reaction would be to that statement. Roose is just as ruthless as Ramsey is, probably even more so since he is more than capable of putting his own son in a position of being eliminated just to get what he wants. Kind of like Tywin, except, Tywin was more calculating.

It may all depend on whether Jon can get his first in command to open Castle Black's gates. I think the young guy Sam talked to in the Black Watch may have a HUGE role to play.

Oh you're talking about Olie. Shucks after watching Olie in action last season and giving that head nod to Jon after "unwittingly" shooting that arrow through Ygritte, the boy is the business! With Jon taking him under his belt, he's proving to be a strong asset.

missfee said:

Phishanga said:

I wonder how the whole story turns out for Jon Snow. I think he's set up more or less as THE hero but I guess in GoT, even his head can get chopped off the next minute. I don't want that.

That's why GoT is so damn good. No one is guaranteed to live, even if you can't see the show continuing on without certain characters.

If I have my way, Jon Snow marries Danerys Targaryen...

UncleJam said:

missfee said:

That's why GoT is so damn good. No one is guaranteed to live, even if you can't see the show continuing on without certain characters.

If I have my way, Jon Snow marries Danerys Targaryen...

Well you know he has a thing for red heads.

Phishanga said:

I wonder how the whole story turns out for Jon Snow. I think he's set up more or less as THE hero but I guess in GoT, even his head can get chopped off the next minute. I don't want that.

Perish the thought!

UncleJam said:

missfee said:

That's why GoT is so damn good. No one is guaranteed to live, even if you can't see the show continuing on without certain characters.

If I have my way, Jon Snow marries Danerys Targaryen...

The most popular theory among fans of the GoT books is that Snow is, in fact, a Targaryen. But the Targaryens have intermarried before, apparently.

namepeace said:

UncleJam said:

If I have my way, Jon Snow marries Danerys Targaryen...

The most popular theory among fans of the GoT books is that Snow is, in fact, a Targaryen. But the Targaryens have intermarried before, apparently.

So Ned Stark's "whore" was possibly a Targaryen...makes sense, and explains why Mama Stark couldnt stand to even look at Jon. Hmmm....I dont know how they can work it, but I see Jon Snow and Danerys marrying. Stark/Targaryen Alliance will rule the 7 Kingdoms...King and Queen at King's Landing, Sansa "saves" Theon/Reek and they wed/rule either Winterfell or the Erie, with Bran ruling the other. I just cant see where the hell they're going with little Arya (my favorite character).

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This last episode was just awesome. I cannot remember the last time I watched a show or movie and was literally on the edge of my seat, screaming at the TV for someone to help my man Jon Stark. I just knew he was done...then he jumps up and wastes the White Walker with his Valerian sword...no dragon glass, just straight power. Awesome!

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Now that Sansa knows her brothers are still alive, I'm hoping she continues to chip away at Reek and bring Theon back. Either way, Ramsey must die!

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UncleJam said:

namepeace said:

The most popular theory among fans of the GoT books is that Snow is, in fact, a Targaryen. But the Targaryens have intermarried before, apparently.

So Ned Stark's "whore" was possibly a Targaryen...makes sense, and explains why Mama Stark couldnt stand to even look at Jon. Hmmm....I dont know how they can work it, but I see Jon Snow and Danerys marrying. Stark/Targaryen Alliance will rule the 7 Kingdoms...King and Queen at King's Landing, Sansa "saves" Theon/Reek and they wed/rule either Winterfell or the Erie, with Bran ruling the other. I just cant see where the hell they're going with little Arya (my favorite character).

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This last episode was just awesome. I cannot remember the last time I watched a show or movie and was literally on the edge of my seat, screaming at the TV for someone to help my man Jon Stark. I just knew he was done...then he jumps up and wastes the White Walker with his Valerian sword...no dragon glass, just straight power. Awesome!

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Now that Sansa knows her brothers are still alive, I'm hoping she continues to chip away at Reek and bring Theon back. Either way, Ramsey must die!

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Judging from the past few episodes, it sure does seem like she can work the manipulative powers learned from Littlefinger on Theon to turn him around...but it won't be to help Theon "come back", it'll be to help herself and the Stark family. I can't see Sansa marrying Theon...not willingly. Even though he didn't actually kill Bran and Rickon, it doesn't change the fact that he was surely going to kill them had he found them and also that he betrayed Robb. We'll just have to see how this storyline is all going to play out, but one thing is for sure, the Bolton's won't have control of Winterfell for much longer....

namepeace said:

UncleJam said:

If I have my way, Jon Snow marries Danerys Targaryen...

The most popular theory among fans of the GoT books is that Snow is, in fact, a Targaryen. But the Targaryens have intermarried before, apparently.

Surely is possible but I'm thinking no.

purplethunder3121 said:

This scene was wild!!! I thought he was actually beckoning Jon but then realized that he was raising the folks the dead army killed and now made them part of his team!

missfee said:

namepeace said:

The most popular theory among fans of the GoT books is that Snow is, in fact, a Targaryen. But the Targaryens have intermarried before, apparently.

Surely is possible but I'm thinking no.

GRRM has apparently shot that down recently, so you're right.

missfee said:

purplethunder3121 said:

This scene was wild!!! I thought he was actually beckoning Jon but then realized that he was raising the folks the dead army killed and now made them part of his team!

I think there was some "come at me" *and* "come with me" in that scene. The Night King was by some legends a former Lord Commander.

"Game recognize game," so the Night King probably immediately recognized Jon's Black Watch standing.

Raising the dead was his official declaration of war.

However you slice it, it was one of the best scenes in GoT history. Short of "Rains of Castamere," it was the best closing 2 minutes of any episode of the show.

For some reason I can't post hyperlinks. But go to YouTube to find the Thriller-Hardhome mashup. TODAY.

namepeace said:

For some reason I can't post hyperlinks. But go to YouTube to find the Thriller-Hardhome mashup. TODAY.

Are you talking about this?

or this?

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