Here's how I rank 'em.

1. DS9

2. Enterprise

3. TNG

4. Voyager

5. TOS

DS9 is easily the best out of all five shows, flawless writing acting and storylines. Enterprise is very underrated IMHO whilst TNG has aged badly but it did give us three of the best ever characters in the history of the show Picard, Data and Worf plus two brilliant baddies Q and The Borg.

Voyager is very much hit and miss but the pros out weigh the cons. Personally I can't even watch TOS nowadays, a camp irrelevance but I do love the movies that star the original cast though.

YOUR RANKING?

Wow it's hard. I can't really rank them. Though I can say is that season 2 of Enterprise was the worse season of all the shows combined. Don't forget Star Trek the Animated series, some very good episodes and never dumb it down just because it was a cartoon.

Star Trek--The original, and still the best! Classic 60's space western, with one of the all time great TV characters in Spock.

The Next Generation--arguably as good or better than TOS, just not to me. But Picard nearly singlehandedly kept this from being an afterthought and brought Star Trek back to life.

Voyager--this one found its way a few years in. I liked it despite it being fairly horrible.

Deep Space 9--the choice of true geeks, somehow I never got into this one. Had its merits

Enterprise--first episode was great, and every one after was worse than is actually possible for a television program to be.

and that's what I'm doing on a Saturday night

No. 1 By far is DS9, while it took a while to get settled once it did it turned into a giant space opera that would make any Klingon Proud.

No. 2 TNG for Captain Picard, his sexy bald dome and bring an intellectual captain instead of a fist a cuffs one.

No. 3 TOS While it was corny as hell with bad acting all around, it introduced the ideas of social awareness into american homes across the nation.

No. 4 Voyager while I didnt mind the series it really didnt break any new ground beside a female captain, which I lost most respect for when she was fixin her bun while walking down a corridor while the ship was under attack.

No 5. Enterprise Didn't watch this that much, but when a whale species somehow has space ability with fins I just SMH. Though I did like the Andorian guy and the Orion males.

1 TNG

2 DS9

3 TOS, but really only because of the movies

that's it.

1. TNG

2. Voyager

3. DS9

4. Enterprise

5. TOS

Uhum...

DS9

TNG

TOS

Voyager

Enterprise

The last three or four seasons of DS9 are some of the best television I've ever watched. And the premise of the series - being set on a space station, where most of the show takes place - allowed for such incredible character growth over the course of the series that none of the others come close, for me.

TNG was and is landmark television. SciFi on TV improved dramtically after that show starting airing, has almost never been off the air in one for or another since, and bits of it have seeped their way into many non-SciFi shows. Some of my favorite Trek characters and single Trek episodes come from this show, but as a whole I still think DS9 was better.

TOS, come on! This is where the bloodline starts! This is heritage. The DNA. The beginning. This is where the morals and ideals that move through all later Trek come from. I love this series, but it has a few things going against it at this point. First of all, it was cheesy, even for it's time. The hd, remastered versions helped with some of that as far as sets and effects go, but there's only so much they could do. So it has definitely aged, and sometimes not for the better. Second, it was only three seasons (79 episodes), and there has been three seven season series (523 episodes) after it. You can only re-watch those same 79 episodes so many times, and some of them not at all, because there's just no need to watch them again. Lastly, the movies for TOS are, by and large, better than the series itself. There may be no more iconic characters than the crew of the TOS Enterprise. Even people who never watched the show know Kirk and Spock. But for me it's just not as re-watchable as DS9 and TNG.

Voyager has a few good episodes each season. Some seasons are better than others. They just needed to bring them home sooner and move on to something else.

Enterprise What? I can't read that word with the line through it like that.

I guess I'm not a certified Trekkie, so here's my list.

1. TNG - Showed that sci-fi could be intelligent and incredibly well acted. Plus it introduced Jean-Luc Picard, Worf, Data, and the Borg.

2. DS9 - I know real Trekkies love this series for the complex storylines, but I began to bail out around the middle of season three. Maybe I was just burned out a bit.

3. Voyager - Was a more updated, intelligent version of Lost In Space, though it did feature a female captain and one of the first bonafide sex symbols in sci-fi TV in Seven-of-Nine. (BTW, I went to college with that actress. I didn't know her very well - just had her in a few classes of mine - but she was really nice. )

4. TOS - The characters from the original series are icons in their own right, but compared to the later series, the storylines and production values look seriously dated. Nevertheless, it established that sci-fi could be successful on television.

5. Enterprise - Didn't watch this series much at all.

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Dauphin said:

TAS - Fun fluff

VOY - Pretentious garbage. A handful of good episodes.

The animated series! I actually like some of those episodes as much, if not more, than the lesser original series episodes.

Voyager pretentious? Garbarge I get, because it was sometimes. But TNG and especially DS9 were WAY more pretentious. Shit, Sisko LIVED in pretentious.

1. Star Trek

I never say any of the other series.

1)Voyager--- when 7 joins the series. Before that happened they turned an interesting character like Neelix from a grumpy yet lovable character to a sniffling wimp that you want to phaser out of existence along with the very annoying Kes. This show also has the best special effects out of all the series.

2)TNG--Great characters and better special effects than the original. Except the annoying character C. Troy (Who I actually like on Voyager.)

3)TOS---great characters-cheesy special effects.

4)DS9---Part of the problem is that the show is at 1 station for the most part. I have found a lot of people who hate it and a lot of people who love it.

5)ENT----Boring and slow.

I have always wanted them to do another TNG movie and have some characters form Voyager cross over on it. Would love to see the duo Data and 7.

kewlschool said:

I have always wanted them to do another TNG movie and have some characters form Voyager cross over on it. Would love to see the duo Data and 7.

TNG, Voyager, DS9, Spock (because he lived that long) and Scotty (because he stored himself in a transporter buffer ) could all have been used in one movie. Huge missed opportunity, imo. There was talk about DS9 being in a TNG movie at one point. I think around the time of First Contact, because Worf hadn't returned to the Enterprise from DS9 at that point. Supposedly, some of the DS9 people (*cough*Avery Brooks*cough) didn't want to do it. And the reason for not mixing them all up was because they didn't want to dilute the draw of the individual franchises. Some such nonsense. That's how I remember it, anyway.

I’ve been working my way through TNG for a few months on Netflix. I vaguely remember catching the odd episode here and there when it originally aired, but in the main I’m a complete neophyte. I found most of the first season to be quite a slog to get through, but I’ve liked season 2 quite a bit more (I'm at ep 12 or 13 I think) and I understand it continued to improve. Other than that I only know the original, which I’ve always enjoyed and like going back to pretty often. Most of the episodes only have camp value now, I guess, but I’d still rate a handful of them as really good.

Cerebus said:

Dauphin said:

VOY - Pretentious garbage. A handful of good episodes.

The animated series! I actually like some of those episodes as much, if not more, than the lesser original series episodes.

Voyager pretentious? Garbarge I get, because it was sometimes. But TNG and especially DS9 were WAY more pretentious. Shit, Sisko LIVED in pretentious.

Picard was captaining the Flagship of the United Federation of Planets. The Senior staff of that ship earned every bit before they even stepped onto the ship.

Sisko was left out to hang at the edge of the quadrant in a scenario where he was doomed to fail. He gained his stripes by working his ass off to ambassador relations between Bajor and Cardassia, and then dealing with the Jem Hadar and the Founders. It takes a special type to make that work! The dude solidified his status when he built the Defiant, imo.

Janeway, on the other hand had a lot of potential, which was wasted on the very concepts of the characterizations and show premises. The Maquis being a major influence on the UFP was a completely forced plot point, and to have so many Maquis and Maquis Sympathizers on Voyager to begin with was asinine. I appreciate DS9's episodes that dealt with them, but Voyager was based on the tensions of what was a very minor blip in Federation history. It seemed like the only two people that deserved to have that focus would be Chakotay as he really was Maquis, ans Seska, who was Chakotay's woman, however, was a Cardassian in disguise.

Then we have Janeway becoming the foremost authority on the Borg. The season finale ending with her destruction of the Borg Transwarp node and Borg Queen. Yes... a rag tag ship of minor resources found the ability to fend off and eventually defeat the Borg. The most evil force in Trekdom, beaten by a single ship stranded out in the middle of the Delta Quadrant. Why? Time Travel.

Worst of all, Janeway committed TWO unforgiveable sins: Killed Tuvix, who was a new life form and blatantly unwilling to die, to restore Tuvok and Neelix. And more importantly, GOT LOST ON HER OWN SHIP. Somebody that ignorant became the foremost authority on the Borg. *sigh*

Tom Paris was horrible. I honestly wished he would have been the character the actor played before. Instead we get a guy who is so awesome, he can out wit the Borg during a rescue mission using technology that he only recently became aware of. Technology that the Borg Queen herself had assimilated from the technology's designers, thus making her the absolute authority on said technology. The Borg Queen who has assimilated Federation ships, humans, and countless other species and technologies. Yes, Tom Paris, in his Delta Flyer, simply remodulated his sheilds and was able to get away.

All that said, there were definately a couple of decent arcs, and a handful of very solid episodes. But the ending of Voyager was a fitting and disasterous end to an incredibly flawed series. Deus Ex Machina indeed.

I would have to see a show about Chakotay, Kim, Tuvok, 7 of 9, the Doctor, and Seska. Also, Lt. Carey as Engineer. I would have even put up with Neelix, who really wasn't that bad considering.

Dauphin said:

Cerebus said:

The animated series! I actually like some of those episodes as much, if not more, than the lesser original series episodes.

Voyager pretentious? Garbarge I get, because it was sometimes. But TNG and especially DS9 were WAY more pretentious. Shit, Sisko LIVED in pretentious.

Picard was captaining the Flagship of the United Federation of Planets. The Senior staff of that ship earned every bit before they even stepped onto the ship.

Sisko was left out to hang at the edge of the quadrant in a scenario where he was doomed to fail. He gained his stripes by working his ass off to ambassador relations between Bajor and Cardassia, and then dealing with the Jem Hadar and the Founders. It takes a special type to make that work! The dude solidified his status when he built the Defiant, imo.

Janeway, on the other hand had a lot of potential, which was wasted on the very concepts of the characterizations and show premises. The Maquis being a major influence on the UFP was a completely forced plot point, and to have so many Maquis and Maquis Sympathizers on Voyager to begin with was asinine. I appreciate DS9's episodes that dealt with them, but Voyager was based on the tensions of what was a very minor blip in Federation history. It seemed like the only two people that deserved to have that focus would be Chakotay as he really was Maquis, ans Seska, who was Chakotay's woman, however, was a Cardassian in disguise.

Then we have Janeway becoming the foremost authority on the Borg. The season finale ending with her destruction of the Borg Transwarp node and Borg Queen. Yes... a rag tag ship of minor resources found the ability to fend off and eventually defeat the Borg. The most evil force in Trekdom, beaten by a single ship stranded out in the middle of the Delta Quadrant. Why? Time Travel.

Worst of all, Janeway committed TWO unforgiveable sins: Killed Tuvix, who was a new life form and blatantly unwilling to die, to restore Tuvok and Neelix. And more importantly, GOT LOST ON HER OWN SHIP. Somebody that ignorant became the foremost authority on the Borg. *sigh*

Tom Paris was horrible. I honestly wished he would have been the character the actor played before. Instead we get a guy who is so awesome, he can out wit the Borg during a rescue mission using technology that he only recently became aware of. Technology that the Borg Queen herself had assimilated from the technology's designers, thus making her the absolute authority on said technology. The Borg Queen who has assimilated Federation ships, humans, and countless other species and technologies. Yes, Tom Paris, in his Delta Flyer, simply remodulated his sheilds and was able to get away.

All that said, there were definately a couple of decent arcs, and a handful of very solid episodes. But the ending of Voyager was a fitting and disasterous end to an incredibly flawed series. Deus Ex Machina indeed.

I would have to see a show about Chakotay, Kim, Tuvok, 7 of 9, the Doctor, and Seska. Also, Lt. Carey as Engineer. I would have even put up with Neelix, who really wasn't that bad considering.

Wow you take them seriously don't you? I loved, I loved the Doctor. I liked that Voyager was in a place where the Federation didn't exist and they were completely on their own, seeing how they made those types of decision based on their own convictions and the situation was interesting, sometimes they didn't do it the Federation way, of course all of them didn't from time to time.

Chakotay, got on my nerves at times, I don't know why he just did. Poor Janeway, just the thought of 75 years and knowing you can't have anybody. I thought I'd be bored with 7 since she was so obviously about sex, but I adored her character.

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TOS

TNG

The rest- Didn't watch them.

morningsong said:

Dauphin said:

I would have to see a show about Chakotay, Kim, Tuvok, 7 of 9, the Doctor, and Seska. Also, Lt. Carey as Engineer. I would have even put up with Neelix, who really wasn't that bad considering.

Wow you take them seriously don't you? I loved, I loved the Doctor. I liked that Voyager was in a place where the Federation didn't exist and they were completely on their own, seeing how they made those types of decision based on their own convictions and the situation was interesting, sometimes they didn't do it the Federation way, of course all of them didn't from time to time.

Chakotay, got on my nerves at times, I don't know why he just did. Poor Janeway, just the thought of 75 years and knowing you can't have anybody. I thought I'd be bored with 7 since she was so obviously about sex, but I adored her character.

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Yes, I'm a Trekkie As such, I put up with watching the show. At the time, I had DS9 to keep me reasonably happy, until the last couple of seasons of Voyager where it was the only game in town until Enterprise.

Enterprise was a welcome change, but seemed to miss the mark too often until the last season, where it was really banging. Oddly, it was Scott Bakula's character that I had a problem with. I didn't see that coming as I loved Quantum Leap.

I thought the premise of Voyager was decent, comparisons to Gilligan's Island not withstanding.

I thought the size of the Intrepid class was adequate enough to have opportunity to create b, c, and d class recurring characters. A Galaxy Class (TNG) holds approx 1200 people, an Intrepid Class (VOY) around 200. Also, it was physically big enough to be a handful for any opponent, and small enough to be threatened by any big guns. I thought it looked great on the TV too.

It has it's plusses, but it's minuses are too much for me.

The Doctor was outstanding. I agree. I was happy to see him in First Contact.

Dauphin said:

Cerebus said:

The animated series! I actually like some of those episodes as much, if not more, than the lesser original series episodes.

Voyager pretentious? Garbarge I get, because it was sometimes. But TNG and especially DS9 were WAY more pretentious. Shit, Sisko LIVED in pretentious.

Picard was captaining the Flagship of the United Federation of Planets. The Senior staff of that ship earned every bit before they even stepped onto the ship.

Sisko was left out to hang at the edge of the quadrant in a scenario where he was doomed to fail. He gained his stripes by working his ass off to ambassador relations between Bajor and Cardassia, and then dealing with the Jem Hadar and the Founders. It takes a special type to make that work! The dude solidified his status when he built the Defiant, imo.

Janeway, on the other hand had a lot of potential, which was wasted on the very concepts of the characterizations and show premises. The Maquis being a major influence on the UFP was a completely forced plot point, and to have so many Maquis and Maquis Sympathizers on Voyager to begin with was asinine. I appreciate DS9's episodes that dealt with them, but Voyager was based on the tensions of what was a very minor blip in Federation history. It seemed like the only two people that deserved to have that focus would be Chakotay as he really was Maquis, ans Seska, who was Chakotay's woman, however, was a Cardassian in disguise.

Then we have Janeway becoming the foremost authority on the Borg. The season finale ending with her destruction of the Borg Transwarp node and Borg Queen. Yes... a rag tag ship of minor resources found the ability to fend off and eventually defeat the Borg. The most evil force in Trekdom, beaten by a single ship stranded out in the middle of the Delta Quadrant. Why? Time Travel.

Worst of all, Janeway committed TWO unforgiveable sins: Killed Tuvix, who was a new life form and blatantly unwilling to die, to restore Tuvok and Neelix. And more importantly, GOT LOST ON HER OWN SHIP. Somebody that ignorant became the foremost authority on the Borg. *sigh*

Tom Paris was horrible. I honestly wished he would have been the character the actor played before. Instead we get a guy who is so awesome, he can out wit the Borg during a rescue mission using technology that he only recently became aware of. Technology that the Borg Queen herself had assimilated from the technology's designers, thus making her the absolute authority on said technology. The Borg Queen who has assimilated Federation ships, humans, and countless other species and technologies. Yes, Tom Paris, in his Delta Flyer, simply remodulated his sheilds and was able to get away.

All that said, there were definately a couple of decent arcs, and a handful of very solid episodes. But the ending of Voyager was a fitting and disasterous end to an incredibly flawed series. Deus Ex Machina indeed.

I would have to see a show about Chakotay, Kim, Tuvok, 7 of 9, the Doctor, and Seska. Also, Lt. Carey as Engineer. I would have even put up with Neelix, who really wasn't that bad considering.

You said Janeway committed TWO unforgiveable sins, well I can add 1 more, the way she handled

the Equinox crew. She left that crewman to die by that "Slimmer" alien thing. Even Chakotay thought she was losing it.

Yes I 100% agree Tom Paris should have been Nicholas Locarno (yes I had to google that). Would have made more sense why joined up with the maquis and would have a next generation tie in with voyager.

Dauphin said:

morningsong said:

Wow you take them seriously don't you? I loved, I loved the Doctor. I liked that Voyager was in a place where the Federation didn't exist and they were completely on their own, seeing how they made those types of decision based on their own convictions and the situation was interesting, sometimes they didn't do it the Federation way, of course all of them didn't from time to time.

Chakotay, got on my nerves at times, I don't know why he just did. Poor Janeway, just the thought of 75 years and knowing you can't have anybody. I thought I'd be bored with 7 since she was so obviously about sex, but I adored her character.

[Edited 1/7/13 9:36am]

Yes, I'm a Trekkie As such, I put up with watching the show. At the time, I had DS9 to keep me reasonably happy, until the last couple of seasons of Voyager where it was the only game in town until Enterprise.

Enterprise was a welcome change, but seemed to miss the mark too often until the last season, where it was really banging. Oddly, it was Scott Bakula's character that I had a problem with. I didn't see that coming as I loved Quantum Leap.

I thought the premise of Voyager was decent, comparisons to Gilligan's Island not withstanding.

I thought the size of the Intrepid class was adequate enough to have opportunity to create b, c, and d class recurring characters. A Galaxy Class (TNG) holds approx 1200 people, an Intrepid Class (VOY) around 200. Also, it was physically big enough to be a handful for any opponent, and small enough to be threatened by any big guns. I thought it looked great on the TV too.

It has it's plusses, but it's minuses are too much for me.

The Doctor was outstanding. I agree. I was happy to see him in First Contact.

Gilligan's Island it wasn't that wacky or silly. They crossed some serious ethical lines sometimes. I still like it, it wasn't TNG in how it captured my imagination but I appreciated where it was trying to go.

I did notice the ship size difference when they landed it on a planet, it still looked too small to me to handle all that it seem to have to handle, I couldn't never reconcile that.

I still haven't adjusted to Enterprise even though I saw the beginning, which is what happened when I first saw Voyager, I kept seeing the middle of it and couldn't grasp "why are they doing what they're doing" info you getting in the very beginning of these type of shows.

1. Deep Space Nine

2. The Original Series

3. The Next Generation

4. Voyager

Motherf*** Enterprise! THAT show was the reason why Paramount Studio was forced to reboot the entire Star Trek Universe (in films that is). In retrospect, Voyager should have been the definite final series in the entire saga.

TOS....even though quite campy by todays standards, these were cutting edge ideas back in the day and there was nothing like it on tv even by sci-fi standards. Spock and every other major character are iconic in status way beyond the span of the series itself and will always be near and dear to me...nuff said.

TNG....had great characters and storylines. Pickard embodied everything a Starship captain should be and the acting in this series had the best quality IMO. I never could stand Riker and his insecure ass though,

DS9...had the most complicated intertwined storylines, not to mention the number of characters to keep up with in the Trek universe and it was easy to get a bit lost if you couldn't watch every episode. It took a while, but the more time I was able to invest in watching reruns, the more DS9 grew on me. But I couldn't stand Odo or that Cardassian broad.

Voyager had some good plots here and there but was very hit or miss for me. My favorite episodes centered around my favorites, Seven of Nine and Chakotay. Janeway never established herself for me because I could never get Katherine Hepburn out of my mind when watching her, not her fault though. I wasn't fond of the doctor either.

Enterprise...I never bonded with the premise or characters from that series and gave up watching halfway through the first season. The only thing I kept thinking was... why?

TOS is the only Star Trek that didn't have any characters that I hated...

1. Deep Space Nine (Quark...my all-time fav Star Trek character)

2. TNG (Counselor Troi )

3. Original (would rank higher if I could watch it and not easliy recognize that it was filmed in the 60s)

I never paid attention to any of the others.

1. The Original Series

2. Deep Space Nine - Worf

3. The Next Generation - Worf

4. Voyager - Captain Janeway is no joke. *Season? Episode?: Aliens studying crew & not letting

them sleep. CJ: *I will crash this #@!% ALL UP IN THIS #@$%! Delta #@!% Quadrant B%$H!

I'm paraphrasing. You understand.

5. ENTERPRISE - I watched this yelling mess,

Boriqua1130 said:

1. The Original Series

2. Deep Space Nine - Worf

3. The Next Generation - Worf

4. Voyager - Captain Janeway is no joke. *Season? Episode?: Aliens studying crew & not letting

them sleep. CJ: *I will crash this #@!% ALL UP IN THIS #@$%! Delta #@!% Quadrant B%$H!

I'm paraphrasing. You understand.

5. ENTERPRISE - I watched this yelling mess,

Worf!