TotalANXiousNESS said:

I need to quit smoking. Again.

DO IT!!!!

PurpleJedi said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I need to quit smoking. Again.

DO IT!!!!

I'm gonna. I've done it a couple times now, so I know I CAN. Just trying to fit when would be the best month to be a total bitch into my calendar.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

PurpleJedi said:

DO IT!!!!

I'm gonna. I've done it a couple times now, so I know I CAN. Just trying to fit when would be the best month to be a total bitch into my calendar.

...and don't substitute your cancer sticks with FOOD.

TotalANXiousNESS said:

PurpleJedi said:

DO IT!!!!

I'm gonna. I've done it a couple times now, so I know I CAN. Just trying to fit when would be the best month to be a total bitch into my calendar.

If you've done it a couple times and you're smoking now you've never really done it. I'm not pointing this out to give you a hard time. I quit smoking in the middle of a pack in 1992 and haven't taken a single drag since. If you really want to quit, you CAN do it. Don't give yourself the option of "quiting again". Just don't start again.

Cerebus said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I'm gonna. I've done it a couple times now, so I know I CAN. Just trying to fit when would be the best month to be a total bitch into my calendar.

If you've done it a couple times and you're smoking now you've never really done it. I'm not pointing this out to give you a hard time. I quit smoking in the middle of a pack in 1992 and haven't taken a single drag since. If you really want to quit, you CAN do it. Don't give yourself the option of "quiting again". Just don't start again.

Very true. I hear ya. I THOUGHT I quit when I was 26. Gave it up and picked it back up at 30!!! 4 YEARS without a DRAG!!! THAT is WEAK. Worst mistake ever!

If you are thinking about detoxing, I recommend a documentary called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". You can rent it from Netflixx or watch it on Hulu. It's about 2 obese men who sufferred from all kinds of obesity-related illnesses and they healed themselves and transformed their bodies thru a juicing detox.

CarrieMpls said:

Genesia said:

NDRU said: The reason men tend to have that "hard yet fat" belly is because male hormones make them more likely to accumulate fat under the abdominal muscles, as opposed to over the muscle and directly under the skin (as women are more likely to do). That's why men's guts tend not to jiggle - and why men have more heart attacks. Their fat accumulates around vital organs.

Visceral fat. That's the kind that kills. Or so they say.

It's good to know. I had been wondering how I could have a six pack but still look "fatter" than I did ten years ago

Turns out it is because I am fatter than I was ten years ago!

kitbradley said:

If you are thinking about detoxing, I recommend a documentary called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". You can rent it from Netflixx or watch it on Hulu. It's about 2 obese men who sufferred from all kinds of obesity-related illnesses and they healed themselves and transformed their bodies thru a juicing detox.

I wonder who funded the documentary.

PunkMistress said:

kitbradley said:

If you are thinking about detoxing, I recommend a documentary called "Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead". You can rent it from Netflixx or watch it on Hulu. It's about 2 obese men who sufferred from all kinds of obesity-related illnesses and they healed themselves and transformed their bodies thru a juicing detox.

I wonder who funded the documentary.

Cynic.

NDRU said:

CarrieMpls said:

Visceral fat. That's the kind that kills. Or so they say.

It's good to know. I had been wondering how I could have a six pack but still look "fatter" than I did ten years ago

Turns out it is because I am fatter than I was ten years ago!

I thought it was just me. I'm actually in good shape right now and have well-defined abs but the stomach is still protruding more than it used to. For a while I thought I had trained the abs too much and simply made them big instead of just defined, but the above makes a lot more sense.

So I guess the big question is: how do you get to the underlying fat then? Two gym shifts per week and a healthy diet sure don't seem enough to do the trick.

retina said:

Deadcake said:

retina said:

I thought it was just me. I'm actually in good shape right now and have well-defined abs but the stomach is still protruding more than it used to. For a while I thought I had trained the abs too much and simply made them big instead of just defined, but the above makes a lot more sense.

So I guess the big question is: how do you get to the underlying fat then? Two gym shifts per week and a healthy diet sure don't seem enough to do the trick.

Do you do daily cardio? http://www.healthnetwork....ly-fat.asp Genetics? Stress?

Daily cardio? No way, lol. If that's what it takes then I guess I'll just have to live with the slightly protruding belly. I do cardio twice a week at the gym which works fine as part of my schedule, but anything beyond that would start to impact my quality of life. Working out takes too much time and it just isn't fun, despite what all the chipper gym instructors might say.

I guess stress could be part of it. Or maybe it's the portion size. I eat healthy food, but also a lot of it (again, having a flat stomach wouldn't be worth going hungry and miserable).

Thanks either way for the link. It's stuff worth considering.

I put on nothing....sorry!....I vow to drink more bottled spirits for this month.

it should put me in good stead for the summer when i really want to get off my tits and do all that falling down enjoying yoursef shit...

Just chillin captn........

i'm doing february detox, sprout soup all month

Genesia said:

PunkMistress said:

I wonder who funded the documentary.

Cynic.

Well.....

retina said:

Deadcake said:

retina said: Do you do daily cardio? http://www.healthnetwork....ly-fat.asp Genetics? Stress?

Daily cardio? No way, lol. If that's what it takes then I guess I'll just have to live with the slightly protruding belly. I do cardio twice a week at the gym which works fine as part of my schedule, but anything beyond that would start to impact my quality of life. Working out takes too much time and it just isn't fun, despite what all the chipper gym instructors might say.

I guess stress could be part of it. Or maybe it's the portion size. I eat healthy food, but also a lot of it (again, having a flat stomach wouldn't be worth going hungry and miserable).

Thanks either way for the link. It's stuff worth considering.

Yeah I think it does have to do with what (or how much) we're eating, ultimately. I simply eat more than I need to.

But I think she's also right about the cardio. That increased my appetite more than anything, and I burned it all off (but I never did cardio daily). I know some research says weights help people lose weight even more than cardio, but weights never did that for me. Running was what kept me skinny. Maybe it was how I did it, though, I don't know.

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I feel like I have been taking in waaayyy too much caffiene and sugar in the past year (they kind of go hand in hand for me), so I am really trying to cut them out, but it is really hard this time around.

I find myself at work asleep with my head resting on my microscope everyday, until I get my fix.

thekidsgirl said:

I feel like I have been taking in waaayyy too much caffiene and sugar in the past year (they kind of go hand in hand for me), so I am really trying to cut them out, but it is really hard this time around.

I find myself at work asleep with my head resting on my microscope everyday, until I get my fix.

Sugar creates a much bigger crash than caffeine, but caffeine causes more dependency issues (I believe).

I'm an admitted coffee junky - have been for a very long time. But I found that once I got my body used to only having a cup or two a day I felt no different than when I drank it all day and night.

I'm not sure the problem you describe relates to needing coffee (or sugar), though. You shouldn't be that tired in the morning just because you haven't had a cup of coffee. Sounds like you need more sleep, and possibly less stress.

If you're convinced that it is a caffeine issue, buy a coffee pot with a timer and have a cup before you leave for work in the morning.

Edit: speling suks

[Edited 1/7/12 11:17am]

thekidsgirl said:

I feel like I have been taking in waaayyy too much caffiene and sugar in the past year (they kind of go hand in hand for me), so I am really trying to cut them out, but it is really hard this time around.

I find myself at work asleep with my head resting on my microscope everyday, until I get my fix.

Yeah the coffee is not doing much for me except preventing headaches and perhaps making me jittery. I don't think it actually helps anything.

However I don't drink much soda anymore, and I know my coffee has way less sugar than a coke.

NDRU said:

retina said:

Daily cardio? No way, lol. If that's what it takes then I guess I'll just have to live with the slightly protruding belly. I do cardio twice a week at the gym which works fine as part of my schedule, but anything beyond that would start to impact my quality of life. Working out takes too much time and it just isn't fun, despite what all the chipper gym instructors might say.

I guess stress could be part of it. Or maybe it's the portion size. I eat healthy food, but also a lot of it (again, having a flat stomach wouldn't be worth going hungry and miserable).

Thanks either way for the link. It's stuff worth considering.

Yeah I think it does have to do with what (or how much) we're eating, ultimately. I simply eat more than I need to.

But I think she's also right about the cardio. That increased my appetite more than anything, and I burned it all off (but I never did cardio daily). I know some research says weights help people lose weight even more than cardio, but weights never did that for me. Running was what kept me skinny. Maybe it was how I did it, though, I don't know.

[Edited 1/7/12 10:47am]

Hang on, are you saying you've gotten rid of the underlying flab? Or are you talking about a bunch of years ago, pre-six-pack-beer-belly era? I used to easily burn off fat too with just a tiny bit of cardio. It's only in the last few years that the belly is giving me a hard time.

I guess I've started to realize though that I'm simply not ready to make any more sacrifices than I'm already making, not even if it makes my stomach completely flat. Or ok, if all it takes is a slightly different diet then fine, I could do that. But more than two gym shifts per week is a no-go for me.

What's your current exercise schedule?

Cerebus said:

thekidsgirl said:

I feel like I have been taking in waaayyy too much caffiene and sugar in the past year (they kind of go hand in hand for me), so I am really trying to cut them out, but it is really hard this time around.

I find myself at work asleep with my head resting on my microscope everyday, until I get my fix.

Sugar creates a much bigger crash than caffeine, but caffeine causes more dependency issues (I believe).

I'm an admitted coffee junky - have been for a very long time. But I found that once I got my body used to only having a cup or two a day I felt no different than when I drank it all day and night.

I'm not sure the problem you describe relates to needing coffee (or sugar), though. You shouldn't be that tired in the morning just because you haven't had a cup of coffee. Sounds like you need more sleep, and possibly less stress.

If you're convinced that it is a caffeine issue, buy a coffee pot with a timer and have a cup before you leave for work in the morning.

Edit: speling suks

[Edited 1/7/12 11:17am]

Oh, you're totally right! M problem is that I'm a slave to a vicious cycle...

Too much sugar and coffee+tea through the day--> Staying up wired too late --> go to work sleep deprived--> nap at work --> back to beginning

I'm hoping to try to get on schedule this week though

thekidsgirl said:

retina said:

NDRU said:

Yeah I think it does have to do with what (or how much) we're eating, ultimately. I simply eat more than I need to.

But I think she's also right about the cardio. That increased my appetite more than anything, and I burned it all off (but I never did cardio daily). I know some research says weights help people lose weight even more than cardio, but weights never did that for me. Running was what kept me skinny. Maybe it was how I did it, though, I don't know.

[Edited 1/7/12 10:47am]

Hang on, are you saying you've gotten rid of the underlying flab? Or are you talking about a bunch of years ago, pre-six-pack-beer-belly era? I used to easily burn off fat too with just a tiny bit of cardio. It's only in the last few years that the belly is giving me a hard time.

I guess I've started to realize though that I'm simply not ready to make any more sacrifices than I'm already making, not even if it makes my stomach completely flat. Or ok, if all it takes is a slightly different diet then fine, I could do that. But more than two gym shifts per week is a no-go for me.

What's your current exercise schedule?

It's a bit of both. Yes, I am talking about being skinny when I was younger, but when I started running 3-4 times a week it increased my appetite enormously, but I still did not gain an ounce.

Now I eat about the same as when I ran regularly, but I am 25 pounds heavier. I don't run nearly as often, I do some casual weights/crunches. Also I sit at work all day, so I am not as active as I was in school or at other jobs.

I know some of it is age, but I think some has to be diet and [lack of] exercise.

Genesia said:

thekidsgirl said:

Oh, you're totally right! M problem is that I'm a slave to a vicious cycle...

Too much sugar and coffee+tea through the day--> Staying up wired too late --> go to work sleep deprived--> nap at work --> back to beginning

I'm hoping to try to get on schedule this week though

You need to break that cycle before you end up with adrenal fatigue. I gave up caffeine cold turkey a little over a month ago, when it became clear that it was messing up my hormone replacement regimen. I've been through some tough times since - but am finally coming out of it (I hope). Do yourself a favor - get off caffeine, dump the sugar, and get some sleep. It'll be hard making the change, and you'll probably feel worse for awhile. But it'll be worth it.

Well, I'm definintely gonna start as soon as possible. Aiming to try to do it cold turkey too.

PREDOMINANT said:

I put on 10 kilos last autumn, and drank so much over Xmas and new year I am on the wagon for 6 weeks to get in shape for skiing.

I need a support group, anyone else? Any tips?

My detox focus in about people and places ~ and toxic self talk and projection

overall mental detox for health

Hope you are well

thekidsgirl said:

Genesia said:

thekidsgirl said: You need to break that cycle before you end up with adrenal fatigue. I gave up caffeine cold turkey a little over a month ago, when it became clear that it was messing up my hormone replacement regimen. I've been through some tough times since - but am finally coming out of it (I hope). Do yourself a favor - get off caffeine, dump the sugar, and get some sleep. It'll be hard making the change, and you'll probably feel worse for awhile. But it'll be worth it.

Well, I'm definintely gonna start as soon as possible. Aiming to try to do it cold turkey too.

Why? Why not just cut back to a reasonable daily amount?

PurpleJedi said:

TotalANXiousNESS said:

I need to quit smoking. Again.

DO IT!!!!

Tried the E-cigs ?

Cerebus said:

thekidsgirl said:

Well, I'm definintely gonna start as soon as possible. Aiming to try to do it cold turkey too.

Why? Why not just cut back to a reasonable daily amount?

Just want to get over this hurdle quick, so I can have more energy and feel healthier again.