SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

paintedlady said:

I don't like him...

Who uses a line lik e "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment".... to a black woman? Heck, to any woman?

WTF?

That tells me he thinks little of an entire race of men... and I couldn't get past that. But hey, that's just me...

if she wanna ride ol' Hugh Heffner and spend his cash, then... its up to her.

Have fun chica, hope that works out for you... really.

it also sounds like he is trying to capitalize on his assumptions of her experience with black men

Reminds me of when I traveled solo to Italy, with this idea in my mind that Italian men love black women and see us as exotic. So, naturally as I'm walking around the different cities there, needless to say, I felt beautiful and exotic there. The point is, sometimes we go into situations where we make assumptions based on what we hear and then perhaps can figure out how to make the best of the situation that benefits us in some way.

The dude made the comment in a meeting with several other people but I clearly felt like it was "aimed" at me, and it also seemed to slightly annoy the few black dudes in the room....but hey if the dude wants to throw money at me for a little while, bring it!

paintedlady said:

Ottensen said:

Not only is paintedlady one of the wisest and most trusted members of what I call the Dear Abby Council of the org, but her sex and dating stories are legendary!!! . Her thread on phimosis was one of the best Org Public Service Announcements ever

TY Ottie...

That thread was a mess... and did you know I RAN out that house and left my purse, panties, earrings, and didn't even have shoes on when I hit the pavement. Phimosis dude had to run after me with my purse in hand and beg me to let him give me a ride home.

I seriously couldn't get out of there fast enough.... but do you know that a woman got pregnant by that same man? Had a son with him and that baby just turned one recently. One woman's reject is another woman's treasure.... I can NOT imagine any woman enjoying that piece of dick that looks JUST like a curled up piece of okra. God bless that woman!

I missed this thread does anyone have the # for it?

I am willing to bet that the mother of his child does not let him push that thing to the back of her throat and let the cum drip down her face paintedlady style, . Perhaps she is the type of woman that never really looks at it at all. He found one that lets him put it in without inspecting it or touching it ever. (My mother would have never known if my dad had Phimosis,lol).

Also Ms SweetSeventeen,

Don't date anything wearing white skin that you wouldn't date wrapped in black skin. PERIOD.

Like I said, I am a white lady and in no way, shape or form are you second fiddle to a white lady. What I am saying is you should expect to be treated the same way by him or any other man that they would treat a white woman. They don't get a discount because you are black. No cheaper restaurants, or less respect. Do you get me?

Deadflow3r said:

Also Ms SweetSeventeen,

Don't date anything wearing white skin that you wouldn't date wrapped in black skin. PERIOD.

Like I said, I am a white lady and in no way, shape or form are you second fiddle to a white lady. What I am saying is you should expect to be treated the same way by him or any other man that they would treat a white woman. They don't get a discount because you are black. No cheaper restaurants, or less respect. Do you get me?

Thanks for the advice but I find your comments to be a bit suspect. You are making assumptions that I am going to "deal with more crap" simply because he's a white man. If that were really my train of thought, would I have posted this in the first place? No. I also made it very clear that one of my biggest concerns was being taken seriously by him because I am already aware that a lot of men in general want someone they can control. Although I don't know his exact age yet, I suspect he's about 20 years older. So, it's at the front, back and sides of my mind in some regard but I try not to let it distract me too much.

There are many comments listed on this thread that perhaps you skipped over but in one of them, I remember saying something to the effect of not being thrilled with the fact that many guys my age (black, white, etc.) sit at home, play Xbox and then try to get women to give them money. Seems like back in my grandparents and parent's generation, it was a SHAMEFUL thing for men to ask money or support from a woman, now, because of so many dumb women and lazy men, it's "cool" to support a man financially....whatever, I'm not buying it! Literally!

[Edited 12/31/11 8:25am]

Deadflow3r said:

paintedlady said:

TY Ottie...

That thread was a mess... and did you know I RAN out that house and left my purse, panties, earrings, and didn't even have shoes on when I hit the pavement. Phimosis dude had to run after me with my purse in hand and beg me to let him give me a ride home.

I seriously couldn't get out of there fast enough.... but do you know that a woman got pregnant by that same man? Had a son with him and that baby just turned one recently. One woman's reject is another woman's treasure.... I can NOT imagine any woman enjoying that piece of dick that looks JUST like a curled up piece of okra. God bless that woman!

I missed this thread does anyone have the # for it?

I am willing to bet that the mother of his child does not let him push that thing to the back of her throat and let the cum drip down her face paintedlady style, . Perhaps she is the type of woman that never really looks at it at all. He found one that lets him put it in without inspecting it or touching it ever. (My mother would have never known if my dad had Phimosis,lol).

Trust me, you don't have to suck it to see/feel the keretinized tip on the head of the penis. I felt it through the condom. He couldn't keep an erection either.

God, I could not wait for it to be over...

now I know why he went down on me for so long.... fully dressed.

vainandy said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I was recently asked out by a guy who I think is about 20 years older than me. He also happens to be white (I'm black) and I've gone out with white guys before but never with that much of an age difference. I kinda got the impression from when we first met he was into me but wasn't sure, well, I guess my assumption was right. The thing is that one time he was telling me about some random article he read about how, "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment"....

Then, when he called me to ask me out, he told me about how he just started some new contract job and was hoping to make a lot of money and wanted to take me out....

Ok, so dude is probably in his early 50s, should I go for it or not? Also, how in the world do I know a guy that age would even take me seriously or see me anything more than his sex object?

Thoughts?

Notice how he wants to point out about black men and their money making potential and also wants to point out that he may possibly be making a lot of money himself. It sounds like he is buying into the stereotypes that the only black women that would get with a white man or even an older man are gold diggers. Yes, many women of all races are gold diggers when it comes to older men but the fact that he had to put down black men to make himself look good makes me think he's stereotyping you also.

SeventeenDayze said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

it also sounds like he is trying to capitalize on his assumptions of her experience with black men

Reminds me of when I traveled solo to Italy, with this idea in my mind that Italian men love black women and see us as exotic. So, naturally as I'm walking around the different cities there, needless to say, I felt beautiful and exotic there. The point is, sometimes we go into situations where we make assumptions based on what we hear and then perhaps can figure out how to make the best of the situation that benefits us in some way.

The dude made the comment in a meeting with several other people but I clearly felt like it was "aimed" at me, and it also seemed to slightly annoy the few black dudes in the room....but hey if the dude wants to throw money at me for a little while, bring it!

Individuality appears to have died, along with a few other qualities.

Pomade said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Reminds me of when I traveled solo to Italy, with this idea in my mind that Italian men love black women and see us as exotic. So, naturally as I'm walking around the different cities there, needless to say, I felt beautiful and exotic there. The point is, sometimes we go into situations where we make assumptions based on what we hear and then perhaps can figure out how to make the best of the situation that benefits us in some way.

The dude made the comment in a meeting with several other people but I clearly felt like it was "aimed" at me, and it also seemed to slightly annoy the few black dudes in the room....but hey if the dude wants to throw money at me for a little while, bring it!

Individuality appears to have died, along with a few other qualities.

Funny how you take positive, light-hearted comment and try to turn it sour.....either way, I'm still smiling!

SeventeenDayze said:

Pomade said:

Individuality appears to have died, along with a few other qualities.

Funny how you take positive, light-hearted comment and try to turn it sour.....either way, I'm still smiling!

Sister, I'm bugging on this whole thread's premise.

I'm just trying to understand how a man metaphorically waving money in your face while disparaging your people, causing you to muse about grabbing your fishnets in advance of your meeting him, is a good thing.

If you think being exotic is a selling point, so be it... so long as it isn't literally.

Deadcake said:

I saw this on a Volkswagen site but I believe it belongs HERE:

I just came

Pomade said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Funny how you take positive, light-hearted comment and try to turn it sour.....either way, I'm still smiling!

Sister, I'm bugging on this whole thread's premise.

I'm just trying to understand how a man metaphorically waving money in your face while disparaging your people, causing you to muse about grabbing your fishnets in advance of your meeting him, is a good thing.

If you think being exotic is a selling point, so be it... so long as it isn't literally.

I'm just curious, are you a black male?

Also, as I said before, he was referring to employment statistics that I had actually read because the article was published at the same time he made the comment, so....

How in the world is dude waving money in my face if he's talking about how he's glad to be back to work again and how he wants to take me out? Seriously, I've had broke dudes try to hustle me into paying for THEM and I am NOT having it!

Alright so enough chat. We need a pic of this dude to give HONEST FURTHER ADVICE.

dollarsandcheese said:

Alright so enough chat. We need a pic of this dude to give HONEST FURTHER ADVICE.

Ha, I don't have a pic of him yet but he's about 5'11, brown hair, brown eyes and yes as I mentioned before still has all his hair!

SeventeenDayze said:

Pomade said:

Sister, I'm bugging on this whole thread's premise.

I'm just trying to understand how a man metaphorically waving money in your face while disparaging your people, causing you to muse about grabbing your fishnets in advance of your meeting him, is a good thing.

If you think being exotic is a selling point, so be it... so long as it isn't literally.

I'm just curious, are you a black male?

Also, as I said before, he was referring to employment statistics that I had actually read because the article was published at the same time he made the comment, so....

How in the world is dude waving money in my face if he's talking about how he's glad to be back to work again and how he wants to take me out? Seriously, I've had broke dudes try to hustle me into paying for THEM and I am NOT having it!

I'm multiracial but a cop would call me black.

The dynamic as you present it throughout this thread makes it clear your "older white guy" feels he is competing with younger black males in his pursuit of you. Are the broke men you encounter always black? If your interest is economic (and you wouldn't be the first woman to let economy guide her choice of men), own it.

[Edited 1/1/12 9:15am]

SeventeenDayze said:

dollarsandcheese said:

Alright so enough chat. We need a pic of this dude to give HONEST FURTHER ADVICE.

Ha, I don't have a pic of him yet but he's about 5'11, brown hair, brown eyes and yes as I mentioned before still has all his hair!

Alright. The sky is the limit. I feel anything is possible and can work if you want it to. But the most important thing is. Respect. If he doesn't respect you, he doesn't deserve you. It really depends what you want out of it. I didn't read every single post but did you already go for coffee with him? You seem like a smart lady that has things going for her. Just weigh things carefully and enjoy life...

*back to goofy mode.

Pomade said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I'm just curious, are you a black male?

Also, as I said before, he was referring to employment statistics that I had actually read because the article was published at the same time he made the comment, so....

How in the world is dude waving money in my face if he's talking about how he's glad to be back to work again and how he wants to take me out? Seriously, I've had broke dudes try to hustle me into paying for THEM and I am NOT having it!

I'm multiracial but a cop would call me black.

The dynamic as you present it throughout this thread makes it clear your "older white guy" feels he is competing with younger black males in his pursuit of you. Are the broke men you encounter always black? If your interest is economic (and you wouldn't be the first woman to let economy guide her choice of men), own it.

[Edited 1/1/12 9:15am]

You're making it sound like it has to be "either/or"...the guy came at me correctly in terms of being respectful and wanting to take me out. There's a lot of threads on this post but apparently you missed the one where I was talking about guys my age of all colors who are trying shamelessly to get a sugar mama. Now that I think about it, perhaps he made that comment about black male unemployment to me because perhaps he picked up on the fact that I do NOT have an identity crisis but seemed to have enough sense not to fall for a guy trying to mooch off me either, as so many young women do now by giving a guy money, allowing him to live with her, etc.

Black men who look like "professionals" usually walk by me and don't say a word. Many of them are probably married or players or heaven forbid married players! I've walked by many black men who have white girls or other non-black girls. So, with that stated, I make no apologies for going out with a guy who is white because he came at me correctly. If you'd like, I can start another thread about white dudes that I've had to check because of their nonsense. Don't worry, I am NOT the type to think a dude is gold because he's white or black!

To the other person who asked, nope, we haven't had coffee yet (that's in a few days). I will start a new thread about that after it happens

[Edited 1/1/12 10:16am]

[Edited 1/1/12 10:18am]

SeventeenDayze said:

Pomade said:

I'm multiracial but a cop would call me black.

The dynamic as you present it throughout this thread makes it clear your "older white guy" feels he is competing with younger black males in his pursuit of you. Are the broke men you encounter always black? If your interest is economic (and you wouldn't be the first woman to let economy guide her choice of men), own it.

[Edited 1/1/12 9:15am]

You're making it sound like it has to be "either/or"...the guy came at me correctly in terms of being respectful and wanting to take me out. There's a lot of threads on this post but apparently you missed the one where I was talking about guys my age of all colors who are trying shamelessly to get a sugar mama. Now that I think about it, perhaps he made that comment about black male unemployment to me because perhaps he picked up on the fact that I do NOT have an identity crisis but seemed to have enough sense not to fall for a guy trying to mooch off me either, as so many young women do now by giving a guy money, allowing him to live with her, etc.

Black men usually walk by me and don't say a word, well the ones who seem like "professionals" ignore me. But the ones who are a bit "hood" talk to me but then you find out about their baggage and want to run. So, with that stated, I make no apologies for going out with a guy who is white because he came at me correctly. If you'd like, I can start another thread about white dudes that I've had to check because of their nonsense. Don't worry, I am NOT the type to think a dude is gold because he's white or black!

To the other person who asked, nope, we haven't had coffee yet (that's in a few days). I will start a new thread about that after it happens

[Edited 1/1/12 10:16am]

Understood. Thanks for clarifying. Happy new year.

SeventeenDayze said:

I will start a new thread about that after it happens

Something tells me this thread will still be active then.

SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

Also Ms SweetSeventeen,

Don't date anything wearing white skin that you wouldn't date wrapped in black skin. PERIOD.

Like I said, I am a white lady and in no way, shape or form are you second fiddle to a white lady. What I am saying is you should expect to be treated the same way by him or any other man that they would treat a white woman. They don't get a discount because you are black. No cheaper restaurants, or less respect. Do you get me?

Thanks for the advice but I find your comments to be a bit suspect. You are making assumptions that I am going to "deal with more crap" simply because he's a white man. If that were really my train of thought, would I have posted this in the first place? No. I also made it very clear that one of my biggest concerns was being taken seriously by him because I am already aware that a lot of men in general want someone they can control. Although I don't know his exact age yet, I suspect he's about 20 years older. So, it's at the front, back and sides of my mind in some regard but I try not to let it distract me too much.

There are many comments listed on this thread that perhaps you skipped over but in one of them, I remember saying something to the effect of not being thrilled with the fact that many guys my age (black, white, etc.) sit at home, play Xbox and then try to get women to give them money. Seems like back in my grandparents and parent's generation, it was a SHAMEFUL thing for men to ask money or support from a woman, now, because of so many dumb women and lazy men, it's "cool" to support a man financially....whatever, I'm not buying it! Literally!

[Edited 12/31/11 8:25am]

I should not have started my post off the way that I did.

I wrote those things not just for you but assuming that many other women would read them as well. It is my advice for dating outside of ones race.

I agree with you that things have changed for the worse for women. My mother worked because she had an alcoholic for a husband. She got a decent job with the Unemployment Agency. Most of my schoolmates had stay at home moms back in the 60's and 70's. That was also the time when there was much talk about women having "the right to work" once they became mothers.

To be a career woman was controversial.

It seems that the more we respected women for having careers the closer we came to expecting them to. The more the women pursued a stable financial future the less the men did. That wasn't what womens liberation was suppose to be about - "Men have the right to be slackers" but somehow it has been one of the results .

[Edited 1/1/12 15:36pm]

Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Thanks for the advice but I find your comments to be a bit suspect. You are making assumptions that I am going to "deal with more crap" simply because he's a white man. If that were really my train of thought, would I have posted this in the first place? No. I also made it very clear that one of my biggest concerns was being taken seriously by him because I am already aware that a lot of men in general want someone they can control. Although I don't know his exact age yet, I suspect he's about 20 years older. So, it's at the front, back and sides of my mind in some regard but I try not to let it distract me too much.

There are many comments listed on this thread that perhaps you skipped over but in one of them, I remember saying something to the effect of not being thrilled with the fact that many guys my age (black, white, etc.) sit at home, play Xbox and then try to get women to give them money. Seems like back in my grandparents and parent's generation, it was a SHAMEFUL thing for men to ask money or support from a woman, now, because of so many dumb women and lazy men, it's "cool" to support a man financially....whatever, I'm not buying it! Literally!

[Edited 12/31/11 8:25am]

I should not have started my post off the way that I did.

I wrote those things not just for you but assuming that many other women would read them as well. It is my advice for dating outside of ones race.

I agree with you that things have changed for the worse for women. My mother worked because she had an alcoholic for a husband. She got a decent job with the Unemployment Agency. Most of my schoolmates had stay at home moms back in the 60's and 70's. That was also the time when there was much talk about women having "the right to work" once they became mothers.

To be a career woman was controversial.

It seems that the more we respected women for having careers the closer we came to expecting them to. The more the women pursued a stable financial future the less the men did. That wasn't what womens liberation was suppose to be about - "Men have the right to be slackers" but somehow it has been one of the results .

[Edited 1/1/12 15:36pm]

Yeah you're right and it's a big reason why I lost interest in guys my age a long time ago. There are many who feel entitled to anything that you have while putting very little to no effort in the relationship. I remember a guy I went to college with and I had connected after a few years of graduating. I wasn't sure why he called me out of the blue. He wanted to meet up, so we did. Once we got to the area to meet up in, he's like, hey let's go inside that pizza place over there, so I'm like sure. Then he's like, oh but I don't have any money, so let's just ask if we can sit inside without ordering anything. I was mortified when he went up to the cashier and asked to do that! Sensing that he was full of BS, I said, hey let's go to the taco place instead. So, he went there with me and I promptly ordered my food, I did NOT ask him if he wanted anything and ate my entire order in front of him while he sat there looking like a fool. The guy didn't even bother to apologize for the whole stupid thing. That's just one of many examples of clowns like that who have really soured me on guys my age. There are a ton more stories that I have like that....

Oh and I found out the "older man's" age through a Google search....he's 55!

SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

I should not have started my post off the way that I did.

I wrote those things not just for you but assuming that many other women would read them as well. It is my advice for dating outside of ones race.

I agree with you that things have changed for the worse for women. My mother worked because she had an alcoholic for a husband. She got a decent job with the Unemployment Agency. Most of my schoolmates had stay at home moms back in the 60's and 70's. That was also the time when there was much talk about women having "the right to work" once they became mothers.

To be a career woman was controversial.

It seems that the more we respected women for having careers the closer we came to expecting them to. The more the women pursued a stable financial future the less the men did. That wasn't what womens liberation was suppose to be about - "Men have the right to be slackers" but somehow it has been one of the results .

[Edited 1/1/12 15:36pm]

Yeah you're right and it's a big reason why I lost interest in guys my age a long time ago. There are many who feel entitled to anything that you have while putting very little to no effort in the relationship. I remember a guy I went to college with and I had connected after a few years of graduating. I wasn't sure why he called me out of the blue. He wanted to meet up, so we did. Once we got to the area to meet up in, he's like, hey let's go inside that pizza place over there, so I'm like sure. Then he's like, oh but I don't have any money, so let's just ask if we can sit inside without ordering anything. I was mortified when he went up to the cashier and asked to do that! Sensing that he was full of BS, I said, hey let's go to the taco place instead. So, he went there with me and I promptly ordered my food, I did NOT ask him if he wanted anything and ate my entire order in front of him while he sat there looking like a fool. The guy didn't even bother to apologize for the whole stupid thing. That's just one of many examples of clowns like that who have really soured me on guys my age. There are a ton more stories that I have like that....

Oh and I found out the "older man's" age through a Google search....he's 55!

You had to google search his age? I hope you're not telling tall tales about you and this guy

So did you go on the date yet? What's he driving? His shoes?

angel345 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah you're right and it's a big reason why I lost interest in guys my age a long time ago. There are many who feel entitled to anything that you have while putting very little to no effort in the relationship. I remember a guy I went to college with and I had connected after a few years of graduating. I wasn't sure why he called me out of the blue. He wanted to meet up, so we did. Once we got to the area to meet up in, he's like, hey let's go inside that pizza place over there, so I'm like sure. Then he's like, oh but I don't have any money, so let's just ask if we can sit inside without ordering anything. I was mortified when he went up to the cashier and asked to do that! Sensing that he was full of BS, I said, hey let's go to the taco place instead. So, he went there with me and I promptly ordered my food, I did NOT ask him if he wanted anything and ate my entire order in front of him while he sat there looking like a fool. The guy didn't even bother to apologize for the whole stupid thing. That's just one of many examples of clowns like that who have really soured me on guys my age. There are a ton more stories that I have like that....

Oh and I found out the "older man's" age through a Google search....he's 55!

You had to google search his age? I hope you're not telling tall tales about you and this guy

Are you suggesting that someone who Googles another person isn't being honest? What year do you live in, 1997? LOL.

To the other person who asked, I am going out with him in a few days.

SeventeenDayze said:

angel345 said:

You had to google search his age? I hope you're not telling tall tales about you and this guy

Are you suggesting that someone who Googles another person isn't being honest? What year do you live in, 1997? LOL.

To the other person who asked, I am going out with him in a few days.

What is wrong with asking him? Now, that's timeless. Google search? People are doing that, nowadays? Wow

angel345 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Are you suggesting that someone who Googles another person isn't being honest? What year do you live in, 1997? LOL.

To the other person who asked, I am going out with him in a few days.

What is wrong with asking him? Now, that's timeless. Google search? People are doing that, nowadays? Wow

I didn't want to ask him outright because that would give him a complex about it. I think I won't tell him my age right away either so it won't distract him too much. At this point, I'm just curious about the sex really, LOL. But, how long should a guy wait before shagging?

[Edited 1/1/12 21:07pm]

SeventeenDayze said:

angel345 said:

What is wrong with asking him? Now, that's timeless. Google search? People are doing that, nowadays? Wow

I didn't want to ask him outright because that would give him a complex about it. I think I won't tell him my age right away either so it won't distract him too much. At this point, I'm just curious about the sex really, LOL. But, how long should a guy wait before shagging?

[Edited 1/1/12 21:07pm]

Are you looking for a one night stand? Is he looking for a one night stand? If he cared for you, it'll take time, I believe.

Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Thanks for the advice but I find your comments to be a bit suspect. You are making assumptions that I am going to "deal with more crap" simply because he's a white man. If that were really my train of thought, would I have posted this in the first place? No. I also made it very clear that one of my biggest concerns was being taken seriously by him because I am already aware that a lot of men in general want someone they can control. Although I don't know his exact age yet, I suspect he's about 20 years older. So, it's at the front, back and sides of my mind in some regard but I try not to let it distract me too much.

There are many comments listed on this thread that perhaps you skipped over but in one of them, I remember saying something to the effect of not being thrilled with the fact that many guys my age (black, white, etc.) sit at home, play Xbox and then try to get women to give them money. Seems like back in my grandparents and parent's generation, it was a SHAMEFUL thing for men to ask money or support from a woman, now, because of so many dumb women and lazy men, it's "cool" to support a man financially....whatever, I'm not buying it! Literally!

[Edited 12/31/11 8:25am]

I should not have started my post off the way that I did.

I wrote those things not just for you but assuming that many other women would read them as well. It is my advice for dating outside of ones race.

I agree with you that things have changed for the worse for women. My mother worked because she had an alcoholic for a husband. She got a decent job with the Unemployment Agency. Most of my schoolmates had stay at home moms back in the 60's and 70's. That was also the time when there was much talk about women having "the right to work" once they became mothers.

To be a career woman was controversial.

It seems that the more we respected women for having careers the closer we came to expecting them to. The more the women pursued a stable financial future the less the men did. That wasn't what womens liberation was suppose to be about - "Men have the right to be slackers" but somehow it has been one of the results .

[Edited 1/1/12 15:36pm]

There remains a signficant gap in the numbers of CEOs who are women and those who are men, but that number continues to grow. Women can be found in leadership positions throughout the professional world. Marketing dollars continue to cater to women's buying power -- how do you figure things have gotten worse for them?

Yes, "the mommy track" continues to pose real challenges to American women who want both career and family, but the shifting gender landscape that increasingly involves men in the homemaking/work-from-home capacity is at least adding options for those women.

As for men opting for a lazy route, would you acknowledge that there always have been lazy people of both sexes and that increased opportunity for women may have helped expose the percentage of men who were always lazy? Whenever I see news coverage of job fairs and unemployment, I see long lines of men in suits trying to find employment.

Pomade said:

Deadflow3r said:

I should not have started my post off the way that I did.

I wrote those things not just for you but assuming that many other women would read them as well. It is my advice for dating outside of ones race.

I agree with you that things have changed for the worse for women. My mother worked because she had an alcoholic for a husband. She got a decent job with the Unemployment Agency. Most of my schoolmates had stay at home moms back in the 60's and 70's. That was also the time when there was much talk about women having "the right to work" once they became mothers.

To be a career woman was controversial.

It seems that the more we respected women for having careers the closer we came to expecting them to. The more the women pursued a stable financial future the less the men did. That wasn't what womens liberation was suppose to be about - "Men have the right to be slackers" but somehow it has been one of the results .

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There remains a signficant gap in the numbers of CEOs who are women and those who are men, but that number continues to grow. Women can be found in leadership positions throughout the professional world. Marketing dollars continue to cater to women's buying power -- how do you figure things have gotten worse for them?

Yes, "the mommy track" continues to pose real challenges to American women who want both career and family, but the shifting gender landscape that increasingly involves men in the homemaking/work-from-home capacity is at least adding options for those women.

As for men opting for a lazy route, would you acknowledge that there always have been lazy people of both sexes and that increased opportunity for women may have helped expose the percentage of men who were always lazy? Whenever I see news coverage of job fairs and unemployment, I see long lines of men in suits trying to find employment.

When did I ever say ALL men were like that? Seems to me like you're really set on making my post into a negative because it's simply a black woman (me) talking about her interest in a white man and it rubbed you the wrong way!

SeventeenDayze said:

The dude made the comment in a meeting with several other people but I clearly felt like it was "aimed" at me, and it also seemed to slightly annoy the few black dudes in the room....but hey if the dude wants to throw money at me for a little while, bring it!

Did the brothers speak out or did they pussy out?

SeventeenDayze said:

Pomade said:

There remains a signficant gap in the numbers of CEOs who are women and those who are men, but that number continues to grow. Women can be found in leadership positions throughout the professional world. Marketing dollars continue to cater to women's buying power -- how do you figure things have gotten worse for them?

Yes, "the mommy track" continues to pose real challenges to American women who want both career and family, but the shifting gender landscape that increasingly involves men in the homemaking/work-from-home capacity is at least adding options for those women.

As for men opting for a lazy route, would you acknowledge that there always have been lazy people of both sexes and that increased opportunity for women may have helped expose the percentage of men who were always lazy? Whenever I see news coverage of job fairs and unemployment, I see long lines of men in suits trying to find employment.

When did I ever say ALL men were like that? Seems to me like you're really set on making my post into a negative because it's simply a black woman (me) talking about her interest in a white man and it rubbed you the wrong way!

My response was to Deadflow3r's general post about things being worse for professional women and had nothing to do with you.

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