SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

I am a 50 year old white woman.

I have said many times that if I was a 50 year old white man I would be hitting on black woman specifically.

Why? Because there are fewer black men available per black woman and that is why black women bitch when black men hit on other races. There aren't enough of the men to go around and satisfy all the women they don't need to be thinning their #'s down more by going outside the race. That is why any thread about white women dating black men is sure to get at least three orger banned before it gets pulled from the org. It is a hugely emotional topic. I honestly think the reason is that there are more successful, funny, smart, attractive, drug free and well educated black women then there are black men with only half as much going for them, to meet their needs. Even when black women lower their standards, they still have a difficult time finding a black man that will love them and only them.

That is when smart men of different races should pic up their eyebrows a bit. There are plenty of very good looking single and well educated black women out there. They may prefer a young healthy and well educated black man over a 50 year old white dude but given that Mr Right Blackman already has a couple of girlfriends and a second tier of ladies just waiting for the first round to step aside, maybe these beauties might be willing to be as open as their brothers to dating outside the race.

He is deffinately selling himself financially and you should, and I mean it, test him to see if he is a man of his word. Let him take you out. Just because a man is wealthy does not mean that he is generous. See what he is made of. Is he a good conversationalist? Do you like the places he takes you? Is he fun to be with? Do not "put out" anywhere near the first date!!! Not with that kind of man.

You perfectly articulated what I feel about this whole situation. You are right on the money about all of this. Are you sure you're a white woman? Your observations really reflect how black women feel nowadays, well said!

Yeah I'll be sure not to put out too soon. How soon is too soon though?

I am not an authority on dating white men. I will say that if I just want sex and can see from the get go that there is no potential for a relationship (ie the guy is 20 years my junior) I will just have at it. However that is if I am the older of the 2. Really, no pussy, ass or bj's for a long while so you know that he respects you as more then a trick. Strange but a lot of wealthy men appretiate it when a woman can not be bought. Now they don't just want to be your meal ticket either but if you make it clear that you prefer not to sleep around that should not be a problem. Also make it clear that once u get sexually involved you automatically get more emotionally involved and you don't want your libido to be making all your dating choices. If you are holding him off then he will think that you are holding most men off. If you have sex with him quickly then your pussy is just racking up the #'s and it won't be long before your a regular typhoid Mary.

No one wants to date someone whose a whore. Dating a man who sleeps around too much is also gross.

Deadflow3r said:

SeventeenDayze said:

You perfectly articulated what I feel about this whole situation. You are right on the money about all of this. Are you sure you're a white woman? Your observations really reflect how black women feel nowadays, well said!

Yeah I'll be sure not to put out too soon. How soon is too soon though?

I am not an authority on dating white men. I will say that if I just want sex and can see from the get go that there is no potential for a relationship (ie the guy is 20 years my junior) I will just have at it. However that is if I am the older of the 2. Really, no pussy, ass or bj's for a long while so you know that he respects you as more then a trick. Strange but a lot of wealthy men appretiate it when a woman can not be bought. Now they don't just want to be your meal ticket either but if you make it clear that you prefer not to sleep around that should not be a problem. Also make it clear that once u get sexually involved you automatically get more emotionally involved and you don't want your libido to be making all your dating choices. If you are holding him off then he will think that you are holding most men off. If you have sex with him quickly then your pussy is just racking up the #'s and it won't be long before your a regular typhoid Mary.

No one wants to date someone whose a whore. Dating a man who sleeps around too much is also gross.

Yeah, I agree with you totally on this. It's going to take a lot of self-control on my part to not give it up because I'm curious about it and becuse it's a respect thing. I'm just wondering though what he has in mind about dating though. I mean, dude said he's a communist, so I just cannot imagine a communist sugar daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

I am not an authority on dating white men. I will say that if I just want sex and can see from the get go that there is no potential for a relationship (ie the guy is 20 years my junior) I will just have at it. However that is if I am the older of the 2. Really, no pussy, ass or bj's for a long while so you know that he respects you as more then a trick. Strange but a lot of wealthy men appretiate it when a woman can not be bought. Now they don't just want to be your meal ticket either but if you make it clear that you prefer not to sleep around that should not be a problem. Also make it clear that once u get sexually involved you automatically get more emotionally involved and you don't want your libido to be making all your dating choices. If you are holding him off then he will think that you are holding most men off. If you have sex with him quickly then your pussy is just racking up the #'s and it won't be long before your a regular typhoid Mary.

No one wants to date someone whose a whore. Dating a man who sleeps around too much is also gross.

Yeah, I agree with you totally on this. It's going to take a lot of self-control on my part to not give it up because I'm curious about it and becuse it's a respect thing. I'm just wondering though what he has in mind about dating though. I mean, dude said he's a communist, so I just cannot imagine a communist sugar daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's a communist? Aw hell naw.

SeventeenDayze said:

Deadflow3r said:

I am not an authority on dating white men. I will say that if I just want sex and can see from the get go that there is no potential for a relationship (ie the guy is 20 years my junior) I will just have at it. However that is if I am the older of the 2. Really, no pussy, ass or bj's for a long while so you know that he respects you as more then a trick. Strange but a lot of wealthy men appretiate it when a woman can not be bought. Now they don't just want to be your meal ticket either but if you make it clear that you prefer not to sleep around that should not be a problem. Also make it clear that once u get sexually involved you automatically get more emotionally involved and you don't want your libido to be making all your dating choices. If you are holding him off then he will think that you are holding most men off. If you have sex with him quickly then your pussy is just racking up the #'s and it won't be long before your a regular typhoid Mary.

No one wants to date someone whose a whore. Dating a man who sleeps around too much is also gross.

Yeah, I agree with you totally on this. It's going to take a lot of self-control on my part to not give it up because I'm curious about it and becuse it's a respect thing. I'm just wondering though what he has in mind about dating though. I mean, dude said he's a communist, so I just cannot imagine a communist sugar daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A communist sugar daddy seems like an oxymoron.

A sugar daddy is usually a capatalist.

I would really get inside his head. For him to even say, on American Soil, that he is a communist is pretty out there to start with. Have a ton of questions for him. The guy deffinately loves to talk politics. You would be better off just asking questions and observing then debating. You want to get to know him first so you can better see if he is the bad kind of freak. You don't need him to know your take on things. Listening more then talking will benifit YOU the most.

Timmy84 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Yeah, I agree with you totally on this. It's going to take a lot of self-control on my part to not give it up because I'm curious about it and becuse it's a respect thing. I'm just wondering though what he has in mind about dating though. I mean, dude said he's a communist, so I just cannot imagine a communist sugar daddy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's a communist? Aw hell naw.

Yeah I mentioned it in an earlier thread that's been buried cause there's like 200 comments here now, but yeah, he is and I'm not so we'll see how far this goes, LOL!

SeventeenDayze said:

Timmy84 said:

He's a communist? Aw hell naw.

Yeah I mentioned it in an earlier thread that's been buried cause there's like 200 comments here now, but yeah, he is and I'm not so we'll see how far this goes, LOL!

That sounds real wild. I'm sure you two may have some real interesting conversations.

Saying he's a communist.

Honestly, I wonder if he even realizes what that means? I've know a few people who say that kind of thing as a way of expressing how much they dislike our current government practices. Same as saying they're an anarchist. But in the true meaning of the words, none of them were really communists or anarchists.

Sounds like this guy could be interesting. But it also sounds like you may have already explained why he's still single and looking for a younger woman at his age.

Cerebus said:

Saying he's a communist.

Honestly, I wonder if he even realizes what that means? I've know a few people who say that kind of thing as a way of expressing how much they dislike our current government practices. Same as saying they're an anarchist. But in the true meaning of the words, none of them were really communists or anarchists.

Sounds like this guy could be interesting. But it also sounds like you may have already explained why he's still single and looking for a younger woman at his age.

I don't like him...

Who uses a line like "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment".... to a black woman? Heck, to any woman?

WTF?

That tells me he thinks little of an entire race of men... and I couldn't get past that. But hey, that's just me...

if she wanna ride ol' Hugh Heffner and spend his cash, then... its up to her.

Have fun chica, hope that works out for you... really.

paintedlady said:

Harlepolis said:

You just scared the fuckin' outta the poor thing right there

Hey, maybe he's a young 60... she still gotta check out the teefuses, and the foot hygiene. The same way they do when buying a horse. She'll thank me for not running into some phimosis dick once she goes through her checklist.

Do you have some experience w/ the situation - this is some detailed list! And it's hilarious! And probably true...

I saw this on a Volkswagen site but I believe it belongs HERE:

Cerebus said:

angel345 said:

But yet here you are giving her advice, over the internet, faceless. You just told her to go out with the dude. Isn't that giving her advice? If she didn't want other's input of advice, I don't think she would have posted this. What she chose to do with this internet advice is her business. Also, if you read her first thread, you will see that she has an pattern of picking the wrong type of men.

You took the words you chose to highlight way out of context. I was addressing that question to paintedlady, a very strong, opinionated woman, as a small part of the overall conversation that was taking place. It wasn't really meant to prove myself right or anybody else wrong so much as it was just being used as an example for how I think this type of issue should be addressed.

Also, not so sure I was giving advice so much as providing an alternative to the usual answers these questions bring at the Org. I'm one person, with an opinion that was different than everybody elses until Deadflower posted. I posed the theory that it would be better for her to go out with the guy and see for herself, true. But if you read all of my responses, its not like I was really on a soapbox telling her what to do.

Also, again, I wasn't telling her to ignore any other advice, nor admonishing those who offered it. I never questioned her asking for it, either. I was just offering a different perspective. Sometimes a different perspective is needed. Its just important to me that, when these threads stay civil, people take the time to look at these issues from as many different angles as possible. So far, this has been a very positive thread.

Well, whatever will be, will be. What more can I say. If I took it out of context, then my bad. If she wants to roll with a communistic sugar daddy, it's her choice

Deadflow3r said:

Cerebus said:

You took the words you chose to highlight way out of context. I was addressing that question to paintedlady, a very strong, opinionated woman, as a small part of the overall conversation that was taking place. It wasn't really meant to prove myself right or anybody else wrong so much as it was just being used as an example for how I think this type of issue should be addressed.

Also, not so sure I was giving advice so much as providing an alternative to the usual answers these questions bring at the Org. I'm one person, with an opinion that was different than everybody elses until Deadflower posted. I posed the theory that it would be better for her to go out with the guy and see for herself, true. But if you read all of my responses, its not like I was really on a soapbox telling her what to do.

Also, again, I wasn't telling her to ignore any other advice, nor admonishing those who offered it. I never questioned her asking for it, either. I was just offering a different perspective. Sometimes a different perspective is needed. Its just important to me that, when these threads stay civil, people take the time to look at these issues from as many different angles as possible. So far, this has been a very positive thread.

Found it; so sorry

New thread update;

WHY IS DEADFLOW3R SO DAMN INSECURE???

But dating outside your race doesn't necessarily mean you want to score points the way that politicians do when they can't kiss enought black babies come election year. I honestly think it is supply and demand. Black women also have the reputation of being less uptight sexually than white women. Having read the org for the last 2 years I know that this is not true and that black women can be just as uptight as any white women but surely this stereotype i can play in the black womans favor if she knows how to use it to her advantage and not be used by it (thus don't put out early when dating white men born before 1970)

Soul search that one. Good luck.

angel345 said:

Deadflow3r said:

Found it; so sorry

New thread update;

WHY IS DEADFLOW3R SO DAMN INSECURE???

But dating outside your race doesn't necessarily mean you want to score points the way that politicians do when they can't kiss enought black babies come election year. I honestly think it is supply and demand. Black women also have the reputation of being less uptight sexually than white women. Having read the org for the last 2 years I know that this is not true and that black women can be just as uptight as any white women but surely this stereotype i can play in the black womans favor if she knows how to use it to her advantage and not be used by it (thus don't put out early when dating white men born before 1970)

Soul search that one. Good luck.

So, he wrote back to my email asking him how he was doing and said he's been fine, tied up with work, etc. Also found out that he has a kid that he doesn't live with but sees part-time. We're supposed to be meeting up next week to talk more.

Should I whip out the fishnets?

SeventeenDayze said:

angel345 said:

Soul search that one. Good luck.

So, he wrote back to my email asking him how he was doing and said he's been fine, tied up with work, etc. Also found out that he has a kid that he doesn't live with but sees part-time. We're supposed to be meeting up next week to talk more.

Should I whip out the fishnets?

Fishnets are kinda freaky to me. It sends off an not to serious vibe, but at the end of the day, your decision.

artist76 said:

paintedlady said:

Hey, maybe he's a young 60... she still gotta check out the teefuses, and the foot hygiene. The same way they do when buying a horse. She'll thank me for not running into some phimosis dick once she goes through her checklist.

Do you have some experience w/ the situation - this is some detailed list! And it's hilarious! And probably true...

Not only is paintedlady one of the wisest and most trusted members of what I call the Dear Abby Council of the org, but her sex and dating stories are legendary!!! . Her thread on phimosis was one of the best Org Public Service Announcements ever

^^^@ seventeendayze- If you have a man already, then I can see you sporting it

[Edited 12/30/11 6:13am]

Okay, I'm confused...

How the hell did fishnets become part of the equation?

Yesterday it was all about whether or not you should even go out with him:

"Older man... White... Money... Through with Black men... "

So today an email about getting together to talk requires fishnets?

Wow... I guess that pep talk from the resident expert on Black women sealed it for ya!

He's a lucky man!

media change

[Edited 12/30/11 6:21am]

chocolate1 said:

Okay, I'm confused...

How the hell did fishnets become part of the equation?

Yesterday it was all about whether or not you should even go out with him:

"Older man... White... Money... Through with Black men... "

So today a phone call about getting together to talk requires fishnets?

Wow... I guess that pep talk from the resident expert on Black women sealed it for ya!

He's a lucky man!

Yeah, you're right because that's pretty much how it happened. I guess I'd be nothing short of foolish for going through all that nonsense with that loser (the Brooklyrican dude) and then have to wonder if I should go out with a guy who was brave enough to call me and talk and then ask me out.....yeah sometimes you gotta call yourself out on your own BS and whatnot!

Naw, it's gonna be subzero next week when we meet up so....no fishnets yet! LOL!

SeventeenDayze said:

I was recently asked out by a guy who I think is about 20 years older than me. He also happens to be white (I'm black) and I've gone out with white guys before but never with that much of an age difference. I kinda got the impression from when we first met he was into me but wasn't sure, well, I guess my assumption was right. The thing is that one time he was telling me about some random article he read about how, "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment"....

Then, when he called me to ask me out, he told me about how he just started some new contract job and was hoping to make a lot of money and wanted to take me out....

Ok, so dude is probably in his early 50s, should I go for it or not? Also, how in the world do I know a guy that age would even take me seriously or see me anything more than his sex object?

Thoughts?

Notice how he wants to point out about black men and their money making potential and also wants to point out that he may possibly be making a lot of money himself. It sounds like he is buying into the stereotypes that the only black women that would get with a white man or even an older man are gold diggers. Yes, many women of all races are gold diggers when it comes to older men but the fact that he had to put down black men to make himself look good makes me think he's stereotyping you also.

vainandy said:

SeventeenDayze said:

I was recently asked out by a guy who I think is about 20 years older than me. He also happens to be white (I'm black) and I've gone out with white guys before but never with that much of an age difference. I kinda got the impression from when we first met he was into me but wasn't sure, well, I guess my assumption was right. The thing is that one time he was telling me about some random article he read about how, "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment"....

Then, when he called me to ask me out, he told me about how he just started some new contract job and was hoping to make a lot of money and wanted to take me out....

Ok, so dude is probably in his early 50s, should I go for it or not? Also, how in the world do I know a guy that age would even take me seriously or see me anything more than his sex object?

Thoughts?

Notice how he wants to point out about black men and their money making potential and also wants to point out that he may possibly be making a lot of money himself. It sounds like he is buying into the stereotypes that the only black women that would get with a white man or even an older man are gold diggers. Yes, many women of all races are gold diggers when it comes to older men but the fact that he had to put down black men to make himself look good makes me think he's stereotyping you also.

Andy:

Your photo has me seriously and pleasantly distracted. I will have to get my thoughts together in a minute and come back and write a response

Timmy84 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Why slap a dude for stating a fact though? Besides, I am already at my boiling point/breaking point with black men anyway. I guess he's a mindreader in that regard or he has sense enough to read other studies that show that "most black women end up not married" statistic....can't knock his hustle though, just have to see what he really wants in the long-run. I'm pretty sure I know what he wants in the short-run though.

But damn, when I'm 50 he'd be pushing 70, good lord! Maybe if he were Robert Deniro or something it would be okay!

Are you serious?

This is about where I left off on the thread yesterday

SeventeenDayze said:

vainandy said:

Notice how he wants to point out about black men and their money making potential and also wants to point out that he may possibly be making a lot of money himself. It sounds like he is buying into the stereotypes that the only black women that would get with a white man or even an older man are gold diggers. Yes, many women of all races are gold diggers when it comes to older men but the fact that he had to put down black men to make himself look good makes me think he's stereotyping you also.

Andy:

Your photo has me seriously and pleasantly distracted. I will have to get my thoughts together in a minute and come back and write a response

That's not me in the picture. I wish it was.

Deadcake said:

I saw this on a Volkswagen site but I believe it belongs HERE:

This pizza is tempting. I can almost taste the shit.

Ottensen said:

artist76 said:

Do you have some experience w/ the situation - this is some detailed list! And it's hilarious! And probably true...

Not only is paintedlady one of the wisest and most trusted members of what I call the Dear Abby Council of the org, but her sex and dating stories are legendary!!! . Her thread on phimosis was one of the best Org Public Service Announcements ever

TY Ottie...

That thread was a mess... and did you know I RAN out that house and left my purse, panties, earrings, and didn't even have shoes on when I hit the pavement. Phimosis dude had to run after me with my purse in hand and beg me to let him give me a ride home.

I seriously couldn't get out of there fast enough.... but do you know that a woman got pregnant by that same man? Had a son with him and that baby just turned one recently. One woman's reject is another woman's treasure.... I can NOT imagine any woman enjoying that piece of dick that looks JUST like a curled up piece of okra. God bless that woman!

..True Diva Status ...girl im just trying to make it out here... ..

paintedlady said:

Ottensen said:

Not only is paintedlady one of the wisest and most trusted members of what I call the Dear Abby Council of the org, but her sex and dating stories are legendary!!! . Her thread on phimosis was one of the best Org Public Service Announcements ever

TY Ottie...

That thread was a mess... and did you know I RAN out that house and left my purse, panties, earrings, and didn't even have shoes on when I hit the pavement. Phimosis dude had to run after me with my purse in hand and beg me to let him give me a ride home.

I seriously couldn't get out of there fast enough.... but do you know that a woman got pregnant by that same man? Had a son with him and that baby just turned one recently. One woman's reject is another woman's treasure.... I can NOT imagine any woman enjoying that piece of dick that looks JUST like a curled up piece of okra. God bless that woman!

Chica, YES, I remember this part most of ALL!!! I laughed til I cried at the runaway scene 'cause it sounded just like a movie! Even more than his cauliflower cooter, the scene I always picture we bring up that thread is you running out of the house like FloJo Griffith at the Olympics

Ottensen said:

paintedlady said:

TY Ottie...

That thread was a mess... and did you know I RAN out that house and left my purse, panties, earrings, and didn't even have shoes on when I hit the pavement. Phimosis dude had to run after me with my purse in hand and beg me to let him give me a ride home.

I seriously couldn't get out of there fast enough.... but do you know that a woman got pregnant by that same man? Had a son with him and that baby just turned one recently. One woman's reject is another woman's treasure.... I can NOT imagine any woman enjoying that piece of dick that looks JUST like a curled up piece of okra. God bless that woman!

Chica, YES, I remember this part most of ALL!!! I laughed til I cried at the runaway scene 'cause it sounded just like a movie! Even more than his cauliflower cooter, the scene I always picture we bring up that thread is you running out of the house like FloJo Griffith at the Olympics

Tittays swinging! I left my bra there too... I swear I threw on the skirt and blouse and grabbed my shoes like the house was burning down.

Damn shame.

Stillgotit told me he probably made an alter with all the stuff I abandoned at his house.

That was an expensive bra and panty set too.

paintedlady said:

Ottensen said:

Chica, YES, I remember this part most of ALL!!! I laughed til I cried at the runaway scene 'cause it sounded just like a movie! Even more than his cauliflower cooter, the scene I always picture we bring up that thread is you running out of the house like FloJo Griffith at the Olympics

Tittays swinging! I left my bra there too... I swear I threw on the skirt and blouse and grabbed my shoes like the house was burning down.

Damn shame.

Stillgotit told me he probably made an alter with all the stuff I abandoned at his house.

That was an expensive bra and panty set too.

Seems like these types of stories are pretty normal here on the Org. Yeah, we're a weird bunch of folks for sure Thank you Prince for bringing a lot of weirdos together under the Purple clouds!!! La la la he he heeeeee

I'm looking forward to whatever good stuff happens and will keep in mind that I can always "run if his stuff looks like okra" lolol

[Edited 12/30/11 13:25pm]

paintedlady said:

I don't like him...

Who uses a line lik e "studies show that black men under 40 will, statistically, never find gainful employment".... to a black woman? Heck, to any woman?

WTF?

That tells me he thinks little of an entire race of men... and I couldn't get past that. But hey, that's just me...

if she wanna ride ol' Hugh Heffner and spend his cash, then... its up to her.

Have fun chica, hope that works out for you... really.

it also sounds like he is trying to capitalize on his assumptions of her experience with black men