I can see it now...

A new dawn has risen on the Pizza Liberation Front.

We enter into a time when all people; regardless of race, creed, color, religion, social or econmic background, will come together in the name of liberation for every pie.

No more will the pie be held captive by the cardboard box that once...

Oh... never mind...

Cerebus said

A new dawn has risen on the Pizza Liberation Front.

We enter into a time when all people; regardless of race, creed, color, religion, social or econmic background, will come together in the name of liberation for every pie.

No more will the pie be held captive by the cardboard box that once...

Oh... never mind...

You need to start that out with "I have a dream....."

Cerebus said:

I can see it now...

A new dawn has risen on the Pizza Liberation Front.

We enter into a time when all people; regardless of race, creed, color, religion, social or econmic background, will come together in the name of liberation for every pie.

No more will the pie be held captive by the cardboard box that once...

Oh... never mind...

*Hums the Battle Hymn of the Republic*

Timmy84 said:

Cerebus said:

I can see it now...

A new dawn has risen on the Pizza Liberation Front.

We enter into a time when all people; regardless of race, creed, color, religion, social or econmic background, will come together in the name of liberation for every pie.

No more will the pie be held captive by the cardboard box that once...

Oh... never mind...

*Hums the Battle Hymn of the Republic*

Now, I think all of this sarcasm stems a bit from jealous....any brothas here jealous of this whole thing? I hope not!

SeventeenDayze said:

Timmy84 said:

*Hums the Battle Hymn of the Republic*

Now, I think all of this sarcasm stems a bit from jealous....any brothas here jealous of this whole thing? I hope not!

Why would I be jelly?

Cerebus said:

What... don't black guys like pizza, too?

If you don't know, now you know.

SeventeenDayze said:

Timmy84 said:

*Hums the Battle Hymn of the Republic*

Now, I think all of this sarcasm stems a bit from jealous....any brothas here jealous of this whole thing? I hope not!

Uhhh.... I'm an "older white guy". What's that do for your sarcasm interpretation?

funkyslsistah said:

Cerebus said:

What... don't black guys like pizza, too?

If you don't know, now you know.

Timmy84 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Now, I think all of this sarcasm stems a bit from jealous....any brothas here jealous of this whole thing? I hope not!

Why would I be jelly?

Right!?

Cerebus said:

Timmy84 said:

Why would I be jelly?

Right!?

I mean if you're gonna get yours, get yours, ya know?

Power to the Pizza Liberation Front founded on this thread.

But that aside...

Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed.

And at risk of generalizing...from what I've heard...some rich white men might look at black women as disposable pleasures rather than worthy conquests. I hope your guy ain't like that. Just be careful, ok?

Cerebus said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Now, I think all of this sarcasm stems a bit from jealous....any brothas here jealous of this whole thing? I hope not!

Uhhh.... I'm an "older white guy". What's that do for your sarcasm interpretation?

Hey Cerebus, perhaps I could test the "older white guy" waters with you I mean I've made out with a few "older white guys" before but never was in a relationship......so, what's it like? Do tell me what I should expect from the "Old White Guys Club"

SeventeenDayze said:

Cerebus said:

Uhhh.... I'm an "older white guy". What's that do for your sarcasm interpretation?

Hey Cerebus, perhaps I could test the "older white guy" waters with you I mean I've made out with a few "older white guys" before but never was in a relationship......so, what's it like? Do tell me what I should expect from the "Old White Guys Club"

A couple things. First, I agree with what Thru said...

"Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed."

If you get the impression that he's not a good PERSON, don't mess with him.

And I don't just mean that he said some shit that was slightly suspect. Some people are ignorant in that regard, and that's something you would have to deal with in that kind of relationship.

Do you want to be a teacher? Do you want to have to explain the intricacies of being a young black woman to an "older white guy"? Because chances are good that at some point, you will. And with this guy, maybe sooner than later.

Some of my black friends are cool with this, realizing that everybody can't know what its like to have lived through what every other person has lived through. But some aren't, and they quickly take offense. I would say that's a major issue to consider.

Otherwise, I'm 39 and I would never even consider dating someone more than ten years younger. I'd prefer it was no less than five years. As much as you have in common, even if it's a lot, there will be more that will seperate you. And the older he gets, the more likely that divide will grow. Some people work through this and have long, happy releationships. Most don't.

SeventeenDayze said:

Cerebus said:

Uhhh.... I'm an "older white guy". What's that do for your sarcasm interpretation?

Hey Cerebus, perhaps I could test the "older white guy" waters with you I mean I've made out with a few "older white guys" before but never was in a relationship......so, what's it like? Do tell me what I should expect from the "Old White Guys Club"

Oh, but, where do you live? Got any pictures of yourself? I'll take you for a slice if you're close by.

Cerebus said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Hey Cerebus, perhaps I could test the "older white guy" waters with you I mean I've made out with a few "older white guys" before but never was in a relationship......so, what's it like? Do tell me what I should expect from the "Old White Guys Club"

A couple things. First, I agree with what Thru said...

"Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed."

If you get the impression that he's not a good PERSON, don't mess with him.

And I don't just mean that he said some shit that was slightly suspect. Some people are ignorant in that regard, and that's something you would have to deal with in that kind of relationship.

Do you want to be a teacher? Do you want to have to explain the intricacies of being a young black woman to an "older white guy"? Because chances are good that at some point, you will. And with this guy, maybe sooner than later.

Some of my black friends are cool with this, realizing that everybody can't know what its like to have lived through what every other person has lived through. But some aren't, and they quickly take offense. I would say that's a major issue to consider.

Otherwise, I'm 39 and I would never even consider dating someone more than ten years younger. I'd prefer it was no less than five years. As much as you have in common, even if it's a lot, there will be more that will seperate you. And the older he gets, the more likely that divide will grow. Some people work through this and have long, happy releationships. Most don't.

Pff, shut up, you're only 39, so your comments don't count!

This dude in question is over 50, most likely around 52 or so....Ok, perhaps I should send you an Org note cause you're closer to my age and a purple hippie, so that works

Pizza date?

SeventeenDayze said:

Cerebus said:

A couple things. First, I agree with what Thru said...

"Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed."

If you get the impression that he's not a good PERSON, don't mess with him.

And I don't just mean that he said some shit that was slightly suspect. Some people are ignorant in that regard, and that's something you would have to deal with in that kind of relationship.

Do you want to be a teacher? Do you want to have to explain the intricacies of being a young black woman to an "older white guy"? Because chances are good that at some point, you will. And with this guy, maybe sooner than later.

Some of my black friends are cool with this, realizing that everybody can't know what its like to have lived through what every other person has lived through. But some aren't, and they quickly take offense. I would say that's a major issue to consider.

Otherwise, I'm 39 and I would never even consider dating someone more than ten years younger. I'd prefer it was no less than five years. As much as you have in common, even if it's a lot, there will be more that will seperate you. And the older he gets, the more likely that divide will grow. Some people work through this and have long, happy releationships. Most don't.

Pff, shut up, you're only 39, so your comments don't count!

This dude in question is over 50, most likely around 52 or so....Ok, perhaps I should send you an Org note cause you're closer to my age and a purple hippie, so that works

Pizza date?

at your "Pff, shut up"

I may only be 39, but I feel like I've lived 139 years most days. Those middle couple paragraphs in my reply are important, methinks.

Pizza date depends on your location. I'm not firing up the jet (that I don't have) for just some pizza. Ya know?

Cerebus said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Pff, shut up, you're only 39, so your comments don't count!

This dude in question is over 50, most likely around 52 or so....Ok, perhaps I should send you an Org note cause you're closer to my age and a purple hippie, so that works

Pizza date?

at your "Pff, shut up"

I may only be 39, but I feel like I've lived 139 years most days. Those middle couple paragraphs in my reply are important, methinks.

Of course I knew the middle paragraphs were the most important

Here's the thing, for most black women in America who are like, not ghetto (re: the type you see on Maury) the pickings are slim. Add to that the ignorant responses that you get from some black dudes when they see you just walking down the street next to a white man, it's overwhelming sometimes. Yeah ok, they say love is colorblind etc, but when you have black men yelling at you, harrassing you and in one case a few years ago yelling TRAITOR at me, it's a burden.

A few months ago, I met a very good looking black dude (around age 36) who I was thrilled because on the surface he seemed to have his stuff together, etc. As it turns out, he was basically shopping around for a sugar mama. He would send these stupid emails to me like, "Hey we should get together soon" but then never offer to take me anywhere or make any suggestions. I googled him and found out that he basically goes to a lot of these "business networking" events to promote some lame marketing scam that he promotes as a legit business. He's all stage, no show. (I just made that up that expression, like it?)

So, the point is that yeah there's a lot of white dudes I'm just crazy horny for (Robert Downey, Jr, Johnny Depp, Gerard Butler, etc.) but the reality is that I will most likely end up with a white guy simply because they are the ones who are the CEOs, lawyers, doctors, etc. in higher percentage than black men are. I'm NOT saying all white men are gold, so please folks don't even go there with me right now. Just imagine your life for a moment if you were a single, black woman in America, then you'd understand my POV on this.

SeventeenDayze said:

Cerebus said:

at your "Pff, shut up"

I may only be 39, but I feel like I've lived 139 years most days. Those middle couple paragraphs in my reply are important, methinks.

Of course I knew the middle paragraphs were the most important

Here's the thing, for most black women in America who are like, not ghetto (re: the type you see on Maury) the pickings are slim. Add to that the ignorant responses that you get from some black dudes when they see you just walking down the street next to a white man, it's overwhelming sometimes. Yeah ok, they say love is colorblind etc, but when you have black men yelling at you, harrassing you and in one case a few years ago yelling TRAITOR at me, it's a burden.

A few months ago, I met a very good looking black dude (around age 36) who I was thrilled because on the surface he seemed to have his stuff together, etc. As it turns out, he was basically shopping around for a sugar mama. He would send these stupid emails to me like, "Hey we should get together soon" but then never offer to take me anywhere or make any suggestions. I googled him and found out that he basically goes to a lot of these "business networking" events to promote some lame marketing scam that he promotes as a legit business. He's all stage, no show. (I just made that up that expression, like it?)

So, the point is that yeah there's a lot of white dudes I'm just crazy horny for (Robert Downey, Jr, Johnny Depp, Gerard Butler, etc.) but the reality is that I will most likely end up with a white guy simply because they are the ones who are the CEOs, lawyers, doctors, etc. in higher percentage than black men are. I'm NOT saying all white men are gold, so please folks don't even go there with me right now. Just imagine your life for a moment if you were a single, black woman in America, then you'd understand my POV on this.

The things I'd do to that guy if he wasn't married...

But I understand where you're coming from. Your heart will know when the right guy comes along..

SeventeenDayze said:

So, the point is that yeah there's a lot of white dudes I'm just crazy horny for (Robert Downey, Jr, Johnny Depp, Gerard Butler, etc.) but the reality is that I will most likely end up with a white guy simply because they are the ones who are the CEOs, lawyers, doctors, etc. in higher percentage than black men are. I'm NOT saying all white men are gold, so please folks don't even go there with me right now. Just imagine your life for a moment if you were a single, black woman in America, then you'd understand my POV on this.

So that is the only kind of man you want?

A wife of a friend told me a long time ago that "my problem" was that I wasn't going after the "right kind of man" because I wasn't dating the ones you mentioned above.

Jerks come in all walks of life.

I'd rather hold out for someone who makes me happy than for someone's employment status.

I may not be rich, but I don't need a man to provide "things". It's my heart that I'm concerned with...

And I AM a single Black woman in America. In my mid-40s.

[Edited 12/29/11 16:31pm]

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Power to the Pizza Liberation Front founded on this thread.

But that aside...

Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed.

And at risk of generalizing...from what I've heard...some rich white men might look at black women as disposable pleasures rather than worthy conquests. I hope your guy ain't like that. Just be careful, ok?

Agreed.

I think ol' white guy is intimidated by black men because he believes they must be all schlongolian-3 legged looking heavily hung with uber veiny dicked dudes and since she's black she must be used to getting her cooch stretched out wide enough to shoot hoops in it.

So claiming he can fund her needs is his only measuring shtick. Yup, punkmistress called it right... and I don't think he really will respect Seventeendayze or her culture. He may get with her to earn black-by-association points with a crew of people who has been given him a side-eye.

She will be used as his social tool.

Listen to the women who are skilled in BS detection, Shyra, Vendetta, Punkmistress, Chocolate1, Ottensen, Morningsong, Angel, ThrutheeyesofWonder, Harleopolis and others can not be all wrong. Heed their warnings.

Shit, its a rare day when all these opinionated women agree in one accord... its clear to them and so it should be to you because you do not strike me as a foolish woman, just a bored one.

I don't like him.

[Edited 12/29/11 16:36pm]

BTW, all of you are so witty!!! I love the org. Its been a minute since I was able to enjoy reading a thread that show cases just how brilliant you guys all are.

I fukking love the org.

paintedlady said:

BTW, all of you are so witty!!! I love the org. Its been a minute since I was able to enjoy reading a thread that show cases just how brilliant you guys all are.

I fukking love the org.

C'mere Girl!

paintedlady said:

BTW, all of you are so witty!!! I love the org. Its been a minute since I was able to enjoy reading a thread that show cases just how brilliant you guys all are.

I fukking love the org.

You so awesome! Your comments always either bring a smile to my face or make me burst out laughing.

paintedlady said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Power to the Pizza Liberation Front founded on this thread.

But that aside...

Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed.

And at risk of generalizing...from what I've heard...some rich white men might look at black women as disposable pleasures rather than worthy conquests. I hope your guy ain't like that. Just be careful, ok?

Agreed.

I think ol' white guy is intimidated by black men because he believes they must be all schlongolian-3 legged looking heavily hung with uber veiny dicked dudes and since she's black she must be used to getting her cooch stretched out wide enough to shoot hoops in it.

So claiming he can fund her needs is his only measuring shtick. Yup, punkmistress called it right... and I don't think he really will respect Seventeendayze or her culture. He may get with her to earn black-by-association points with a crew of people who has been given him a side-eye.

She will be used as his social tool.

Listen to the women who are skilled in BS detection, Shyra, Vendetta, Punkmistress, Chocolate1, Ottensen, Morningsong, Angel, ThrutheeyesofWonder, Harleopolis and others can not be all wrong. Heed their warnings.

Shit, its a rare day when all these opinionated women agree in one accord... its clear to them and so it should be to you because you do not strike me as a foolish woman, just a bored one.

I don't like him.

[Edited 12/29/11 16:36pm]

Awwww thanks for the compliment!!

chocolate1 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

So, the point is that yeah there's a lot of white dudes I'm just crazy horny for (Robert Downey, Jr, Johnny Depp, Gerard Butler, etc.) but the reality is that I will most likely end up with a white guy simply because they are the ones who are the CEOs, lawyers, doctors, etc. in higher percentage than black men are. I'm NOT saying all white men are gold, so please folks don't even go there with me right now. Just imagine your life for a moment if you were a single, black woman in America, then you'd understand my POV on this.

So that is the only kind of man you want?

A wife of a friend told me a long time ago that "my problem" was that I wasn't going after the "right kind of man" because I wasn't dating the ones you mentioned above.

Jerks come in all walks of life.

I'd rather hold out for someone who makes me happy than for someone's employment status.

I may not be rich, but I don't need a man to provide "things". It's my heart that I'm concerned with...

And I AM a single Black woman in America. In my mid-40s.

[Edited 12/29/11 16:31pm]

No, just to be clear, it's NOT all about his money but I have had enough run-ins with guys who either try to mooch off women or they don't carry their weight in the relationship. SOOOOOOOOOOO many guys out there now expect a woman to give them money or to move in together so quickly, it's just not cool at all.

paintedlady said:

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

Power to the Pizza Liberation Front founded on this thread.

But that aside...

Good men are good men regardless of colour, race, religion, age, or creed.

And at risk of generalizing...from what I've heard...some rich white men might look at black women as disposable pleasures rather than worthy conquests. I hope your guy ain't like that. Just be careful, ok?

Agreed.

I think ol' white guy is intimidated by black men because he believes they must be all schlongolian-3 legged looking heavily hung with uber veiny dicked dudes and since she's black she must be used to getting her cooch stretched out wide enough to shoot hoops in it.

So claiming he can fund her needs is his only measuring shtick. Yup, punkmistress called it right... and I don't think he really will respect Seventeendayze or her culture. He may get with her to earn black-by-association points with a crew of people who has been given him a side-eye.

She will be used as his social tool.

Listen to the women who are skilled in BS detection, Shyra, Vendetta, Punkmistress, Chocolate1, Ottensen, Morningsong, Angel, ThrutheeyesofWonder, Harleopolis and others can not be all wrong. Heed their warnings.

Shit, its a rare day when all these opinionated women agree in one accord... its clear to them and so it should be to you because you do not strike me as a foolish woman, just a bored one.

I don't like him.

I understand some of what you're saying here, although I think some of it is a little far-fetched based on the small amount of information that's been supplied.

However, I can't really agree with your advice in the end. I think it's important that people live life, have these type of experiences and come to conclusions about them on their own.

Take yourself for example; would you make this type of decision based on the clearly biased opinions and preconceived notions of a bunch of anonymous internet "voices", or would you go on ahead and live a little so you could make the decision yourself? I'm pretty sure you'd choose the latter.

As I said before, whether or not anyone chooses to like the fact, or even agree with it, everybody on Earth is not required to know what you've been through, or what may be a sensitive topic to you. Sometimes, when people who don't already know each other are interacting, those boundaries have to be learned over time.

And really, what could it hurt for her to have this experience on her own, anyway? Maybe dude is cool and they enjoy spending time together. Maybe he really does do something nice for her. Or maybe he's a dickweed, which will serve to better educate her for making such decisions on her own in the future. Whatever. So long as she doesn't give up the good stuff - no harm, no foul.

SeventeenDayze said:

SOOOOOOOOOOO many guys out there now expect a woman to give them money or to move in together so quickly, it's just not cool at all.

You need a better guy pool.

And make sure they all like pizza.

Cerebus said:

...would you make this type of decision based on the clearly biased opinions and preconceived notions of a bunch of anonymous internet "voices", or would you go on ahead and live a little so you could make the decision yourself?

I wouldn't ask...

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

paintedlady said:

Agreed.

I think ol' white guy is intimidated by black men because he believes they must be all schlongolian-3 legged looking heavily hung with uber veiny dicked dudes and since she's black she must be used to getting her cooch stretched out wide enough to shoot hoops in it.

So claiming he can fund her needs is his only measuring shtick. Yup, punkmistress called it right... and I don't think he really will respect Seventeendayze or her culture. He may get with her to earn black-by-association points with a crew of people who has been given him a side-eye.

She will be used as his social tool.

Listen to the women who are skilled in BS detection, Shyra, Vendetta, Punkmistress, Chocolate1, Ottensen, Morningsong, Angel, ThrutheeyesofWonder, Harleopolis and others can not be all wrong. Heed their warnings.

Shit, its a rare day when all these opinionated women agree in one accord... its clear to them and so it should be to you because you do not strike me as a foolish woman, just a bored one.

I don't like him.

[Edited 12/29/11 16:36pm]

Awwww thanks for the compliment!!

You're a schlongolian? Are you a hater of hand tossed pizza?

I keep mixing you up with another orger who's a lady.