TheFreakerFantastic said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Dang, I missed that lyrics, is in the extended? Lol. Oh him, he just doesn't want a girlfriend, he wants be casual

Its in the unreleased 10 min version.

Would you want it more as a long term relationship?

Make sure you are SAFE sex wise if casual.

Well if you want a bf i'm sure there are plenty of guys that would want a ltr with you, you don't have to settle for less if you don't want.

Very true. I believe there is someone out there for everybody, maybe this one isn't for me

aardvark15 said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Dang, I missed that lyrics, is in the extended? Lol. Oh him, he just doesn't want a girlfriend, he wants be casual

It's around the 10 minute mark

I need to listen to it, I got monthes ago and only listened to it once

InternationalLover82 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Its in the unreleased 10 min version.

Would you want it more as a long term relationship?

Make sure you are SAFE sex wise if casual.

Well if you want a bf i'm sure there are plenty of guys that would want a ltr with you, you don't have to settle for less if you don't want.

Very true. I believe there is someone out there for everybody, maybe this one isn't for me

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

TheFreakerFantastic said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Very true. I believe there is someone out there for everybody, maybe this one isn't for me

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

I'm always afraid of playing that game cause I never want someone to think I'm ignoring them He's played that game before..

InternationalLover82 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

I'm always afraid of playing that game cause I never want someone to think I'm ignoring them He's played that game before..

I guess you can do it just to test how serious he is? Do you see him as a long term love interest or are you sceptical too?

TheFreakerFantastic said:

InternationalLover82 said:

I'm always afraid of playing that game cause I never want someone to think I'm ignoring them He's played that game before..

I guess you can do it just to test how serious he is? Do you see him as a long term love interest or are you sceptical too?

That's where I'm confused

A word of advice to InternationalLover....

Girl...if he doesn't fulfill your emotional needs, whatever they may be, or he isn't even willing to listen to them...it's better to be the dumper than the dumpee. You make the call...and don't let anyone control you...or manipulate your feelings.

Take it from a girl who knows...don't get your heart broken by a player.

ThruTheEyesOfWonder said:

A word of advice to InternationalLover....

Girl...if he doesn't fulfill your emotional needs, whatever they may be, or he isn't even willing to listen to them...it's better to be the dumper than the dumpee. You make the call...and don't let anyone control you...or manipulate your feelings.

Take it from a girl who knows...don't get your heart broken by a player.

I know, it hurts like hell

TheFreakerFantastic said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Very true. I believe there is someone out there for everybody, maybe this one isn't for me

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

JustErin said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

FWB?

InternationalLover82 said:

JustErin said:

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

FWB?

friend with benefits

JustErin said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

That's what happened to me It just happens

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

If a dude is fucking a chick casually, saying it's just casual and has been doing it for a little while...it's just casual and it's not going to change.

But that won't stop 99% of females from hoping and trying to get him to want more.

My advice is to not get into shit you want to be something else in the first place.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

If a dude is fucking a chick casually, saying it's just casual and has been doing it for a little while...it's just casual and it's not going to change.

But that won't stop 99% of females from hoping and trying to get him to want more.

My advice is to not get into shit you want to be something else in the first place.

Thats good advice, but at her age myself and many male friends would say things like it was just casual so as to keep our own guard up.

paintsprayer said:

JustErin said:

If a dude is fucking a chick casually, saying it's just casual and has been doing it for a little while...it's just casual and it's not going to change.

But that won't stop 99% of females from hoping and trying to get him to want more.

My advice is to not get into shit you want to be something else in the first place.

Thats good advice, but at her age myself and many male friends would say things like it was just casual so as to keep our own guard up.

yes, I agree, but even if you wanted to keep it that way, as time goes on that becomes harder

InternationalLover82 said:

NDRU said:

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

That's what happened to me It just happens

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

guys always want to keep it casual!

but sometimes once they start spending some time with a person it turns into something more. It doesn't mean they go into it wanting something serious, it just happens

If a dude is fucking a chick casually, saying it's just casual and has been doing it for a little while...it's just casual and it's not going to change.

But that won't stop 99% of females from hoping and trying to get him to want more.

My advice is to not get into shit you want to be something else in the first place.

JustErin,

You are so right. Guys mean what they say and girls are always trying to make excuses for them.

Im open for casual sex with casual lover, but im up for deep meaningful relationship with someone special.....

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....that is once I've porked about another 100 casuals.

JustErin said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Yes you don't have to settle for less, think of all those orgers charmed by your blogs, but sometimes lust takes over I know.

Maybe play hard to get with him, ie. be more unavailable when he calls and see if he shows more interest...

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't.

If she tests the relationship by being a bit distant and hard to get then she knows once and for all if its genuine or not and can move on...

It's like my situation is like what you've said, I want to keep it casual and i'm not planning to change my mind, however now she's said she doesn't want that and wants a relationship and said she thinks its best to leave things then I do think....that's a shame it was a lot of fun....it kinda makes you value things more.

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InternationalLover82 said:

Okay so like on Sunday I get a text from him that says "be ready in 30?" I was like YAYA. Anyway so he picks me up and we go to his place (surprise surpise) and it's like 12pm so it's really warm and his room is too and is just so relaxing and dreamy there. We're laying on his bed and cuddling then start kissing and touching and one of the first thing he does is lift my shirt and suck on my nippies , which feels amazing Then we decide to take a shower cause we're kinda sweaty (lol). While waiting for the water to get a little warm we end up doing in in the bathroom, first on the toilet (top closed!) then he carries me and do it against the wall which is something I've never done He comes before we even get in the shower lol. Then after the shower we're back in bed and he makes me come with just his magical hand Then more cuddle time, and I kiss him *down there* and we do it again.. then in the morning I start to touch him through his underpants , which reminded me of the Prince lyric in extended "we can funk" - "you can leave your clothes on if you want to, I'll still do what I wanna do to you" and I kiss him again then have more sex, THEN finally he kisses me and it's soooooooooooo wonderful

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

JustErin said:

Ok, I just have to jump in to say that this is terrible advice.

If a guy tells you he just wants to keep it casual - he just wants to keep it casual.

He's not playing games, he's not confused, he's just being honest. No strategy will convince him to think of the situation and his FWB in any other way.

Believe me, if a guy wanted something serious, he'd say so.

Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't.

If she tests the relationship by being a bit distant and hard to get then she knows once and for all if its genuine or not and can move on...

It's like my situation is like what you've said, I want to keep it casual and i'm not planning to change my mind, however now she's said she doesn't want that and wants a relationship and said she thinks its best to leave things then I do think....that's a shame it was a lot of fun....it kinda makes you value things more.

[Edited 9/7/11 1:16am]

Really, really, really bad and very childish advice you're giving here, Freaker. LOVE IS NOT A GAME OF CHESS!

Either it works out or it doesn't. If it doesn't, make the most of it or move on. It's as simple as that.

game of chess? lol

sex is like golf; some holes are more difficult to fill than others, sometimes you win, sometimes you don't

simple rules...

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Dave1992 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Sometimes that is the case, sometimes it isn't.

If she tests the relationship by being a bit distant and hard to get then she knows once and for all if its genuine or not and can move on...

It's like my situation is like what you've said, I want to keep it casual and i'm not planning to change my mind, however now she's said she doesn't want that and wants a relationship and said she thinks its best to leave things then I do think....that's a shame it was a lot of fun....it kinda makes you value things more.

[Edited 9/7/11 1:16am]

Really, really, really bad and very childish advice you're giving here, Freaker. LOVE IS NOT A GAME OF CHESS!

Either it works out or it doesn't. If it doesn't, make the most of it or move on. It's as simple as that.

That's a matter of opinion.... she's not talking just about Love though is she? She's talking about getting his attention and something more coming of it.

Its about sex moving on to something more, sometimes its possible sometimes it isn't....but sometimes you have to test the waters otherwise nothing changes. If she likes the guy then its a way of knowing for sure if he really cares and sometimes testing is needed to do that. If nothing comes of it then she can safely move on without regrets ('should i have done more?' etc etc)

Anyway with your desperate pleadings to a male orger and your anger after your dirty talks with Just Erin, weren't u playing mind games with them?

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TheFreakerFantastic said:

Dave1992 said:

Really, really, really bad and very childish advice you're giving here, Freaker. LOVE IS NOT A GAME OF CHESS!

Either it works out or it doesn't. If it doesn't, make the most of it or move on. It's as simple as that.

That's a matter of opinion.... she's not talking just about Love though is she? She's talking about getting his attention and something more coming of it.

Its about sex moving on to something more, sometimes its possible sometimes it isn't....but sometimes you have to test the waters otherwise nothing changes. If she likes the guy then its a way of knowing for sure if he really cares and sometimes testing is needed to do that. If nothing comes of it then she can safely move on without regrets ('should i have done more?' etc etc)

Anyway with your desperate pleadings to a male orger and your anger after your dirty talks with Just Erin, weren't u playing mind games with them?

[Edited 9/7/11 4:00am]

But you don't do that by play-acting or pretending! If someone really likes you, you already got their attention. If they don't, you'll never be able to get their attention the way you'd want to. Either both feel it, or not. All this "what can I do to make him do this and that?"-thinking is a bit childish and pathetic, in my opinion.

And, frankly, if a man really likes you (more than your pussy), he'll usually show you straight away.

(...and fuck your ass too )

Yeah, I was completely serious, of course. You know, Erin's that kind of woman who gets week in her knees when a man says something about love or anal sex. She just has no self-control (mainly because she has absolutely no experience). She needs the melodramatic shit of constantly being in love with someone she knows she can't get. Yep, I was certainly fucking with her mind that day! She's still crying to this day - you can tell it by her posts!

Dave1992 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

That's a matter of opinion.... she's not talking just about Love though is she? She's talking about getting his attention and something more coming of it.

Its about sex moving on to something more, sometimes its possible sometimes it isn't....but sometimes you have to test the waters otherwise nothing changes. If she likes the guy then its a way of knowing for sure if he really cares and sometimes testing is needed to do that. If nothing comes of it then she can safely move on without regrets ('should i have done more?' etc etc)

Anyway with your desperate pleadings to a male orger and your anger after your dirty talks with Just Erin, weren't u playing mind games with them?

[Edited 9/7/11 4:00am]

But you don't do that by play-acting or pretending! If someone really likes you, you already got their attention. If they don't, you'll never be able to get their attention the way you'd want to. Either both feel it, or not. All this "what can I do to make him do this and that?"-thinking is a bit childish and pathetic, in my opinion.

And, frankly, if a man really likes you (more than your pussy), he'll usually show you straight away.

(...and fuck your ass too )

Yeah, I was completely serious, of course. You know, Erin's that kind of woman who gets week in her knees when a man says something about love or anal sex. She just has no self-control (mainly because she has absolutely no experience). She needs the melodramatic shit of constantly being in love with someone she knows she can't get. Yep, I was certainly fucking with her mind that day! She's still crying to this day - you can tell it by her posts!

Hmm...so you agree with saying one thing (ie its childish and pathetic to play games) and doing another (playing games with Erin)...hmm hypocrisy by another name lol

Fuck my ass....U do realise I'm a guy right? Well whatever floats your boat but i'd prefer to top if we're gonna be like that lol

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Dave1992 said:

But you don't do that by play-acting or pretending! If someone really likes you, you already got their attention. If they don't, you'll never be able to get their attention the way you'd want to. Either both feel it, or not. All this "what can I do to make him do this and that?"-thinking is a bit childish and pathetic, in my opinion.

And, frankly, if a man really likes you (more than your pussy), he'll usually show you straight away.

(...and fuck your ass too )

Yeah, I was completely serious, of course. You know, Erin's that kind of woman who gets week in her knees when a man says something about love or anal sex. She just has no self-control (mainly because she has absolutely no experience). She needs the melodramatic shit of constantly being in love with someone she knows she can't get. Yep, I was certainly fucking with her mind that day! She's still crying to this day - you can tell it by her posts!

Hmm...so you agree with saying one thing (ie its childish and pathetic to play games) and doing another (playing games with Erin)...hmm hypocrisy by another name lol

Fuck my ass....U do realise I'm a guy right? Well whatever floats your boat but i'd prefer to top if we're gonna be like that lol

The "you" means it's directed at women who think like that in general.

Lawd, I was joking. In both cases.

Dave1992 said:

TheFreakerFantastic said:

Hmm...so you agree with saying one thing (ie its childish and pathetic to play games) and doing another (playing games with Erin)...hmm hypocrisy by another name lol

Fuck my ass....U do realise I'm a guy right? Well whatever floats your boat but i'd prefer to top if we're gonna be like that lol

The "you" means it's directed at women who think like that in general.

Lawd, I was joking. In both cases.

Dave....you're not playing mind games now are you? Because that would be very naughty and childish wouldn't it!

blackbob said:

InternationalLover82 said:

Okay so like on Sunday I get a text from him that says "be ready in 30?" I was like YAYA. Anyway so he picks me up and we go to his place (surprise surpise) and it's like 12pm so it's really warm and his room is too and is just so relaxing and dreamy there. We're laying on his bed and cuddling then start kissing and touching and one of the first thing he does is lift my shirt and suck on my nippies , which feels amazing Then we decide to take a shower cause we're kinda sweaty (lol). While waiting for the water to get a little warm we end up doing in in the bathroom, first on the toilet (top closed!) then he carries me and do it against the wall which is something I've never done He comes before we even get in the shower lol. Then after the shower we're back in bed and he makes me come with just his magical hand Then more cuddle time, and I kiss him *down there* and we do it again.. then in the morning I start to touch him through his underpants , which reminded me of the Prince lyric in extended "we can funk" - "you can leave your clothes on if you want to, I'll still do what I wanna do to you" and I kiss him again then have more sex, THEN finally he kisses me and it's soooooooooooo wonderful

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Perfect song for the situation:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...-gu1KETjVY