johnart said:

HohnerCatcher said:

Talk about easy to read, "eyes that betray all manner of things" is about the gayest thing I've ever seen anyone put down on paper (computer screen).

Of course gay (at least openly) men are generally easier to read than bi dudes. We don't have time or reason to play coy about getting down to dick-biz.

Honestly

And what if the eyes only tell you if YOU have a chance

johnart said:

HohnerCatcher said:

Talk about easy to read, "eyes that betray all manner of things" is about the gayest thing I've ever seen anyone put down on paper (computer screen).

Of course gay (at least openly) men are generally easier to read than bi dudes. We don't have time or reason to play coy about getting down to dick-biz.

[Edited 6/21/11 8:19am]

Girl, please. I'm talking about closeted gay men too, not just folks like you, and cborgman, or Jerseykrs.

imago said:

johnart said:

Talk about easy to read, "eyes that betray all manner of things" is about the gayest thing I've ever seen anyone put down on paper (computer screen).

Of course gay (at least openly) men are generally easier to read than bi dudes. We don't have time or reason to play coy about getting down to dick-biz.

[Edited 6/21/11 8:19am]

Girl, please. I'm talking about closeted gay men too, not just folks like you, and cborgman, or Jerseykrs.

Chile, I hope you didn't break a press-on typin that mess.

HotGritz said:

Well he was a well traveled, worldly and grown gay man so this is, IMHO, little to do with religion and much to do with his life experiences. Perhaps something happened to him that made him re-evaluate his choices. His focus seems to be on the presumed emptiness of gay male relations. Maybe he had his heart broken or maybe somebody violated him. He says "God loves you more than any dude will love you." As a believer, I would say this is true no matter one's sex or sexual attraction, but the way he frames it almost seems as if he had been wounded somehow. God help the woman who falls for his ass.

Amen to this!!!!

Seems like the guy first made his sexuality and his relationship with Ben his religion and his whole life. Anyway the woman that gets involved with him is going to get fucked, and not in a good way. Once he decides that he is not really a Christian any longer, she will no longer have a part in his play.

johnart said:

imago said:

Girl, please. I'm talking about closeted gay men too, not just folks like you, and cborgman, or Jerseykrs.

Chile, I hope you didn't break a press-on typin that mess.

Pr1nceQuik said:

You cannot be gay and be religious.

The rest of the post was funny, but this bit is priceless. Show me a priest/vicar who's straight and I'll show you five that are gay.

tears....of a clown...

Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:

What I find hilarious is how the person wants to speak about what God wants but has the "Dirty Mind" album in their avatar.

Well, I think it's fucked up that nowadays no one is able to disagree with homosexuality. If they do then they're automatically donned "dumbasses" and portrayed as hypocrytical religious zealouts. You can do what you wanna do and good for you but people have the right to disagree and you should respect that. THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT A MAN SHOULD'T LIE WITH A MAN. It says it. Period. So get mad at the Bible. And good for the guy in the article whose become a Christian. Life will be much simpler and much easier for him. It is possible to change and that change is for the better! Peace

MissParkerr said:

Timmy84 said:

Well, I think it's fucked up that nowadays no one is able to disagree with homosexuality. If they do then they're automatically donned "dumbasses" and portrayed as hypocrytical religious zealouts. You can do what you wanna do and good for you but people have the right to disagree and you should respect that. THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT A MAN SHOULD'T LIE WITH A MAN. It says it. Period. So get mad at the Bible. And good for the guy in the article whose become a Christian. Life will be much simpler and much easier for him. It is possible to change and that change is for the better! Peace

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

Poplife88 said:

MissParkerr said:

Well, I think it's fucked up that nowadays no one is able to disagree with homosexuality. If they do then they're automatically donned "dumbasses" and portrayed as hypocrytical religious zealouts. You can do what you wanna do and good for you but people have the right to disagree and you should respect that. THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT A MAN SHOULD'T LIE WITH A MAN. It says it. Period. So get mad at the Bible. And good for the guy in the article whose become a Christian. Life will be much simpler and much easier for him. It is possible to change and that change is for the better! Peace

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

I'm not mad at you. And I don't hate you. I just think that it has gotten to the point where someone who does not agree with homosexuality has no right to voice their opinion. You have the right to yours and I have the right to mine. But I do not hate you. But I worry because AIDS is rapidly spreading and the promiscuity in homosexuals is upsetting. But I send you love not hate. I'm not mad at you. have a good day.

myfavorite said:

if i was versed enough in the gay culture i would comment....is doesnt seem like i know enough to comment. i've been to gay places cause i wanted hot sex from gay men, but something about the culture, language or my lack of that would turn them off... It seems like a culture one has to be totally committed to. is that true??

[Edited 6/20/11 5:08am]

I'm hardly committed.

I'm usually considered the "straightest gay man" people know.

I don't hang out in gay establishments, unless I'm looking for sex.

Otherwise, no reason for me to be there.

Most of my friends are straight males. They don't worry about me hitting on them.

Lammastide said:

Efan said:

Wait--am I crazy or did you reverse the order of your responses, Lammastide?

You're not crazy. Because I referred to deebee's post in my response to you, I wanted first to respond to him.

...I think only I care about such stupid OCD stuff.

You're not. I've done that too.

Poplife88 said:

Before I came out, I actively dated women. When I was a teen until early 30's, I kept thinking i would find the right woman who would do it for me and I would be attracted to her. Even though I knew I was gay, I was deeply closeted, due to my religion (I was raised Catholic) and where I grew up (VERY repulican suburb) , so I was in COMPLETE denial and ignorant. Everytime I would begin a relationship, I would think, ok, NOW it will happen...but of course the relationship would die miserably because of one simple reason. I WAS NOT ATTRACTED TO THEM. It would get to the point where she would want the relationship to be physical, but when the moment of truth would happen, I would have to think about a guy to get off. Sex with women was a CHORE. Any excuse NOT to would be used. Also during this time, I was having a lot of anonymous gay sex...not someting I am proud of...how I didn't catch a disease is still beyond me. Things were starting to get REALLY creepy and weird.

So living this way for 15 years, when I approached my early 30's I was a miserable, lonely, angry, and very shelfish person, who was hurting people who didn't deserve to be hurt. By 33 I sort of had an epiphany after becoming friends with a coworker who was also happened to be a gay man. I didn't come out to him or anything, but his friendship made me realize there was absolutely nothing wrong with it. He is a smart, successful, normal guy who has been with his partner for almost 20 years. Knowing him helped me to finally coming to terms with my sexuality in my own head, and realizing this is who I was. I was still miserable, but at least the steps where in place for me to eventually becoming comfortable with myself as a gay man. I stopped trying to date women, and stopped the anonymous sex, and bascially became asexual (besides marathon jerk off sessions . I did this for about 5 years, and things in my life (very) slowly started to become clearer. I was focusing on my work better, I was becoming more financially responsible, and my confidence started to rise...why? Cause I had stopped trying to "act"...I was simply being who I was and thus was (at least in my own head) and able to focus on my life. Let me tell ya folks...it takes A LOT of energy to be that in denial, and act like someone you're not.

While still in the closet, but much more confident with who I am, by the time I was 39, I ended up finally putting a profile on Chemistry, and sure enough met a guy almost immediately. We went out, and while I was nervous at first, each date ended with me wanting to see him again...something that NEVER happened with women. Also, it felt RIGHT. Like birds singing, clouds parting, RIGHT. When we had sex, it was better than I could imagine, and it was like so THIS is what it's supposed to be like. We've been together ever since...I came out by the time I was 40 (hey...better late than never). Family and friends have been great and accepting. It's almost like a new beginning, as I am confident, relaxed, and happy, and it's all because I am living the life I was supposed to lead...also it makes me realize its SO not a big deal...all that time worrying and upset at being gay was wasted time.

Lastly, THE thing to note is because of this LOOONG journey....one thing is I know for absolute-damn sure...being gay is in my DNA. Just as my hair is black, and eyes are blue, I am gay. So yeah, not that big of a deal...just bein me baby!

[Edited 6/20/11 11:42am]

Incredible.

Thank you for sharing.

Pr1nceQuik said:

You cannot be gay and be religious. Being gay is not the way god created human beings to be, if that was the case, humans would be extinct.

So well done to him for realising this.

The church is full of religious gays.

Try going to church.

God did make everyone, including those of us who are gay.

As if it is beyond God to make a percentage of people gay.

By your reasoning, everyone has to have children or we face extinction.

Obviously not the case. The world doesn't miss the children gay people aren' t having.

Pr1nceQuik said:

vainandy said:

What I find hilarious is how the person wants to speak about what God wants but has the "Dirty Mind" album in their avatar.

Prince and Dirty Mind are awesome. i don't have a problem with people being gay.

Just throwing my opinion on this subject, an opinion which I believe to be true.

To correction you, your opinion is wrong and has no factual basis or support.

So what you need to ask yourself, is why you believe what you believe?

johnart said:

HohnerCatcher said:

Talk about easy to read, "eyes that betray all manner of things" is about the gayest thing I've ever seen anyone put down on paper (computer screen).

Of course gay (at least openly) men are generally easier to read than bi dudes. We don't have time or reason to play coy about getting down to dick-biz.

[Edited 6/21/11 8:19am]

Especially when you're talking makes it obvious that there will be no further use for you unless you are someone memorable.

MissParkerr said:

Timmy84 said:

Well, I think it's fucked up that nowadays no one is able to disagree with homosexuality. If they do then they're automatically donned "dumbasses" and portrayed as hypocrytical religious zealouts. You can do what you wanna do and good for you but people have the right to disagree and you should respect that. THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT A MAN SHOULD'T LIE WITH A MAN. It says it. Period. So get mad at the Bible. And good for the guy in the article whose become a Christian. Life will be much simpler and much easier for him. It is possible to change and that change is for the better! Peace

No, you can disagree.

But,

Don't tell me, a gay man, that I was not born this way.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that God did not make me gay.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that I can't be happy, fulfilled and be gay.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that I can't worship God.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that the same God that answers my prayers considers me such an abomination that he can't abide me. We seem to do fine.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that I need to change for a chance at salvation. I'll take my chances with God, not your beliefs.

Don't tell me, a gay man, that the Old Testament applies to gay people, but none of the rest of Old Testament applies.

Respect that and let's go forward from there.

MissParkerr said:

Poplife88 said:

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

I'm not mad at you. And I don't hate you. I just think that it has gotten to the point where someone who does not agree with homosexuality has no right to voice their opinion. You have the right to yours and I have the right to mine. But I do not hate you. But I worry because AIDS is rapidly spreading and the promiscuity in homosexuals is upsetting. But I send you love not hate. I'm not mad at you. have a good day.

Your ignorance continues.

AIDS??

Really?

You do realize that most cases of AIDS and HIV on the planet arecaused by heterosexual transmission?

Go preach on that . . . . .

See you when you get back.

SUPRMAN said:

MissParkerr said:

I'm not mad at you. And I don't hate you. I just think that it has gotten to the point where someone who does not agree with homosexuality has no right to voice their opinion. You have the right to yours and I have the right to mine. But I do not hate you. But I worry because AIDS is rapidly spreading and the promiscuity in homosexuals is upsetting. But I send you love not hate. I'm not mad at you. have a good day.

Your ignorance continues.

AIDS??

Really?

You do realize that most cases of AIDS and HIV on the planet arecaused by heterosexual transmission?

Go preach on that . . . . .

See you when you get back.

You're probably right. AIDS is probably spread as much *but I doubt more than homosexuals* by heterosexuals and you do know why that is don't you? The men on the "down low" passing that stuff on to their straight wives. We all know AIDS first came about from bath houses where gay men were engaging in sex with many many partners. Diddn't you yourself just write a post about three guys in one night or something? I think you did. Don't get mad at me because your promiscuous. I'm not saying God doesn't love you or doesn't answer your prayers. That's ridiculous. Of course not. And I myself was a lesbian in my twenties and I know that Satan was behind it. I turned my back on that lifestyle and I'm so glad that I did. It's sickening. Gay people are always looking for something they will never capture. Never. You just never will. And I don't hate you. And I don't hate me for having been gay. But even when I was in that lifestyle I knew that the Devil was lurking. It's just the truth. Be mad.

Poplife88 said:

MissParkerr said:

Well, I think it's fucked up that nowadays no one is able to disagree with homosexuality. If they do then they're automatically donned "dumbasses" and portrayed as hypocrytical religious zealouts. You can do what you wanna do and good for you but people have the right to disagree and you should respect that. THE BIBLE DOES SAY THAT A MAN SHOULD'T LIE WITH A MAN. It says it. Period. So get mad at the Bible. And good for the guy in the article whose become a Christian. Life will be much simpler and much easier for him. It is possible to change and that change is for the better! Peace

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

Okaaaayy.

Edit: I am not in any way homophobic. I just don't like people calling it natural and saying it's not a sin. It's disrespectful to people who are religious..

[Edited 7/4/11 15:09pm]

MissParkerr said:

SUPRMAN said:

Your ignorance continues.

AIDS??

Really?

You do realize that most cases of AIDS and HIV on the planet arecaused by heterosexual transmission?

Go preach on that . . . . .

See you when you get back.

You're probably right. AIDS is probably spread as much *but I doubt more than homosexuals* by heterosexuals and you do know why that is don't you? The men on the "down low" passing that stuff on to their straight wives. We all know AIDS first came about from bath houses where gay men were engaging in sex with many many partners. Diddn't you yourself just write a post about three guys in one night or something? I think you did. Don't get mad at me because your promiscuous. I'm not saying God doesn't love you or doesn't answer your prayers. That's ridiculous. Of course not. And I myself was a lesbian in my twenties and I know that Satan was behind it. I turned my back on that lifestyle and I'm so glad that I did. It's sickening. Gay people are always looking for something they will never capture. Never. You just never will. And I don't hate you. And I don't hate me for having been gay. But even when I was in that lifestyle I knew that the Devil was lurking. It's just the truth. Be mad.

I'm not mad at you. Your ignorance on the other hand is disturbing.

But it's your world, just don't expect me to live in it with you. Keep it to yourself.

What is it that I am looking for that I will never have? Love? I've had love. I've had relationships.

I haven't had marriage yet, but I don't see that as something I can never have.

For those of you having problems with the gays, where are all your posts on the threads about people cheating on their husbands and wives and any other such nonsense you consider a sin?

Plus, it would be less offensive if a few of you actually knew what the fuck you were talking about.

Pr1nceQuik said:

Poplife88 said:

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

Okaaaayy.

Edit: I am not in any way homophobic. I just don't like people calling it natural and saying it's not a sin. It's disrespectful to people who are religious..

[Edited 7/4/11 15:09pm]

It is not.

No one else has to believe what you believe. Get real.

Pr1nceQuik said:

Poplife88 said:

I am so sick of "Christians" using Bible quotes to justify their bigotry. Didn't the Bible also say love your neighbor??? You are uncomfortable with the reality that is homosexuality? Fine, but you better start getting used to it as the tide is slowly turning to acceptance, as people realize this isn't something you can change. It's in your DNA and is NOT a sin...it's NATURE. I live the best I can to the words of Jesus, try to do the right thing at all times, love without jugement, and love, respect, and am commited to my partner. I am not perfect, but am very happy and at peace as I am living the life I am designed to lead. Life is a lie when you don't come to terms with you really are.

Okaaaayy.

Edit: I am not in any way homophobic. I just don't like people calling it natural and saying it's not a sin. It's disrespectful to people who are religious..

[Edited 7/4/11 15:09pm]

THIS is just damn ridiculous. Does the sin part come in at the mere being attracted to someone of the same sex or in a sex act?

And I dare you to prove homosexuality is not natural. God made everything except gay people?

SUPRMAN said:

MissParkerr said:

You're probably right. AIDS is probably spread as much *but I doubt more than homosexuals* by heterosexuals and you do know why that is don't you? The men on the "down low" passing that stuff on to their straight wives. We all know AIDS first came about from bath houses where gay men were engaging in sex with many many partners. Diddn't you yourself just write a post about three guys in one night or something? I think you did. Don't get mad at me because your promiscuous. I'm not saying God doesn't love you or doesn't answer your prayers. That's ridiculous. Of course not. And I myself was a lesbian in my twenties and I know that Satan was behind it. I turned my back on that lifestyle and I'm so glad that I did. It's sickening. Gay people are always looking for something they will never capture. Never. You just never will. And I don't hate you. And I don't hate me for having been gay. But even when I was in that lifestyle I knew that the Devil was lurking. It's just the truth. Be mad.

I'm not mad at you. Your ignorance on the other hand is disturbing.

But it's your world, just don't expect me to live in it with you. Keep it to yourself.

What is it that I am looking for that I will never have? Love? I've had love. I've had relationships.

I haven't had marriage yet, but I don't see that as something I can never have.

I think you mistakenly think that I hate gay people or do not like them but that is not the case at all. When I was in that lifestyle my eyes were opened up to an incredible unhappiness and unfulfilled longing in almost every gay person I met. Males and females. I saw that the women were needing companionship and the men promiscous sex. Even the men in supposedly commited relationships. I saw that those needs were never fulfilled. And while I was immersed in gay people, my eyes were opened to the fact that they are almost never truly happy. I'm not being a bitch when I say this, it's what I observed. My friends who are gay are still searching searching searching and they never find what they are looking for. And I have felt so happy and fulfilled since leaving all of that behind. I know that I'm clearly on the outskirts when I say this but it is a sickness and the devil is behind it. The devil wants us to think "If it feels good do it" and people are doing whatever they feel like to whomever they feel like and look at the outcome, more and more people are dying of AIDS. And I know this applies to hetrosexuals who are having promiscious sex as well. And all of this "It gets better" campaign that's going on in HOllywood, with stars talking making public service announcements about how you should "hang in there" "It gets better" and all of that is a bunch of bullshit. It does not get better. It usually just gets worse. It's a fact. Don't hate me for saying so I honestly wish you the best.

MissParkerr said:

SUPRMAN said:

I'm not mad at you. Your ignorance on the other hand is disturbing.

But it's your world, just don't expect me to live in it with you. Keep it to yourself.

What is it that I am looking for that I will never have? Love? I've had love. I've had relationships.

I haven't had marriage yet, but I don't see that as something I can never have.

I think you mistakenly think that I hate gay people or do not like them but that is not the case at all. When I was in that lifestyle my eyes were opened up to an incredible unhappiness and unfulfilled longing in almost every gay person I met. Males and females. I saw that the women were needing companionship and the men promiscous sex. Even the men in supposedly commited relationships. I saw that those needs were never fulfilled. And while I was immersed in gay people, my eyes were opened to the fact that they are almost never truly happy. I'm not being a bitch when I say this, it's what I observed. My friends who are gay are still searching searching searching and they never find what they are looking for. And I have felt so happy and fulfilled since leaving all of that behind. I know that I'm clearly on the outskirts when I say this but it is a sickness and the devil is behind it. The devil wants us to think "If it feels good do it" and people are doing whatever they feel like to whomever they feel like and look at the outcome, more and more people are dying of AIDS. And I know this applies to hetrosexuals who are having promiscious sex as well. And all of this "It gets better" campaign that's going on in HOllywood, with stars talking making public service announcements about how you should "hang in there" "It gets better" and all of that is a bunch of bullshit. It does not get better. It usually just gets worse. It's a fact. Don't hate me for saying so I honestly wish you the best.

More ignorance. Do a lil reading on the It Gets Better campaign and then come back to this.

Stating opinion as fact just pisses me off BUT this time, I just pity you.

Vendetta1 said:

MissParkerr said:

I think you mistakenly think that I hate gay people or do not like them but that is not the case at all. When I was in that lifestyle my eyes were opened up to an incredible unhappiness and unfulfilled longing in almost every gay person I met. Males and females. I saw that the women were needing companionship and the men promiscous sex. Even the men in supposedly commited relationships. I saw that those needs were never fulfilled. And while I was immersed in gay people, my eyes were opened to the fact that they are almost never truly happy. I'm not being a bitch when I say this, it's what I observed. My friends who are gay are still searching searching searching and they never find what they are looking for. And I have felt so happy and fulfilled since leaving all of that behind. I know that I'm clearly on the outskirts when I say this but it is a sickness and the devil is behind it. The devil wants us to think "If it feels good do it" and people are doing whatever they feel like to whomever they feel like and look at the outcome, more and more people are dying of AIDS. And I know this applies to hetrosexuals who are having promiscious sex as well. And all of this "It gets better" campaign that's going on in HOllywood, with stars talking making public service announcements about how you should "hang in there" "It gets better" and all of that is a bunch of bullshit. It does not get better. It usually just gets worse. It's a fact. Don't hate me for saying so I honestly wish you the best.

More ignorance. Do a lil reading on the It Gets Better campaign and then come back to this.

Stating opinion as fact just pisses me off BUT this time, I just pity you.

I'm just stating my opinion. And I started with saying that it's as though people opposed to a gay lifestyle are not supposed to have an opinion and your just backing that up. As for this It Gets Better Campaign, I understand that it is supposed to be with good intentions and all of that but it's a load of rubble. Why not teach kids right from wrong? Why not help them with their issues instead of saying, "that's right honey! You're a Gurrrllllll.... You go!" when truthfully they need maybe some therapy and guidance not a sex change and a rainbow decal? I'm just tired of all this leading our youth down the wrong road because in this day and age everything goes. Everythings going to keep going and going until God eventually sends a flood. And you know you can see it coming. Call me ignorant. I don't care.

MissParkerr said:

Vendetta1 said:

More ignorance. Do a lil reading on the It Gets Better campaign and then come back to this.

Stating opinion as fact just pisses me off BUT this time, I just pity you.

I'm just stating my opinion. And I started with saying that it's as though people opposed to a gay lifestyle are not supposed to have an opinion and your just backing that up. As for this It Gets Better Campaign, I understand that it is supposed to be with good intentions and all of that but it's a load of rubble. Why not teach kids right from wrong? Why not help them with their issues instead of saying, "that's right honey! You're a Gurrrllllll.... You go!" when truthfully they need maybe some therapy and guidance not a sex change and a rainbow decal? I'm just tired of all this leading our youth down the wrong road because in this day and age everything goes. Everythings going to keep going and going until God eventually sends a flood. And you know you can see it coming. Call me ignorant. I don't care.

Oh I'm sorry. When someone says something is a FACT, I think they are stating a fact.

And, for the last time, I don't see any of you guys going on in threads about premarital sex or any of the threads in P&R about some of the real sadness and tragedy in this world. Have your opinions, no matter how ill-informed but the hypocrisy is just a bit much.

Homosexuality will cause the end of the world but the straights fucking like bunnies is ok. GTFOOHWTBS.

MissParkerr said:

SUPRMAN said:

I'm not mad at you. Your ignorance on the other hand is disturbing.

But it's your world, just don't expect me to live in it with you. Keep it to yourself.

What is it that I am looking for that I will never have? Love? I've had love. I've had relationships.

I haven't had marriage yet, but I don't see that as something I can never have.

I think you mistakenly think that I hate gay people or do not like them but that is not the case at all. When I was in that lifestyle my eyes were opened up to an incredible unhappiness and unfulfilled longing in almost every gay person I met. Males and females. I saw that the women were needing companionship and the men promiscous sex. Even the men in supposedly commited relationships. I saw that those needs were never fulfilled. And while I was immersed in gay people, my eyes were opened to the fact that they are almost never truly happy. I'm not being a bitch when I say this, it's what I observed. My friends who are gay are still searching searching searching and they never find what they are looking for. And I have felt so happy and fulfilled since leaving all of that behind. I know that I'm clearly on the outskirts when I say this but it is a sickness and the devil is behind it. The devil wants us to think "If it feels good do it" and people are doing whatever they feel like to whomever they feel like and look at the outcome, more and more people are dying of AIDS. And I know this applies to hetrosexuals who are having promiscious sex as well. And all of this "It gets better" campaign that's going on in HOllywood, with stars talking making public service announcements about how you should "hang in there" "It gets better" and all of that is a bunch of bullshit. It does not get better. It usually just gets worse. It's a fact. Don't hate me for saying so I honestly wish you the best.

It gets amazingly better. Of course, you do have to do a little bit of work yourself to make it better...starting with realizing that it's not a sickness and it's not of "the devil." It's just the way you are, like being blonde or brunette or short or tall or whatever.

I can handle almost everything you've said without letting it bother me, except for the line about how gay people are almost never truly happy. I'm happy as all get out.