TotalANXiousNESS said:

JustErin said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

But it is a fucked up law because he is not charged with reading her email (which by the way is NOT protected by the United States Postal Service under Federal Law as regular mail is) he's being charge under an obscure state of Michigan statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

Which is ridiculous, if they at anytime during the course of their marriage, shared the same computer that he used to read her emails.

Why would it be protected by the USPS? They have nothing to do with email.

The bottom line is that no one should be reading someone else's personal email without their permission - this includes your spouse. On a shared computer or not.

It shouldn't be an obscure law, it should be a law enforced in every singe state and hopefully it will be when the rest of the country catches up with these modern times.

You are the one that said, "You have never been allowed to read other people's mail...email is no different." I simply pointed out, how it is in fact...quite different.

The actual bottom line is...if he did have the password to her personal email account, that she had to have given him, with her consent to check her emails at some point in time, on a computer that they shared in their marital home, as he states. He is not guilty of breaking the law because her stupid ass was sloppy and got cold busted having an affair with one of her ex-husbands.

The burden of proof is on the prosecution and they will have to prove...beyond reasonable doubt that...

A) She did not give him her password and he obtained it by nefarious means.

B) She did not give him her consent at anytime to check her emails.

C) He did not use a computer that they shared. Which would have her password information stored on it. Making it easily accessible to anyone that got access to that computer...including hackers. Unless, she took precise and easily verifiable measures to insure that information was not stored on it.

This will be in interesting case, indeed. One I will be watching closely to see how it plays out because the implications here go far beyond the people involved.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

XxAxX said:

i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

Here's the link to a local story covering the situation:

http://www.clickondetroit...etail.html

From what I can gather...

They were married. They each used the same computer in their home. He did not "hack" into her email account. He knew the password because she had previously given it to him, with her consent to check her emails.

He was her third husband. She was allegedly having an affair on him with her second husband (which he discovered in her emails) who was arrested for allegedly abusing her.

The third husband was upset over learning of the affair, which lead to their divorce. During those proceedings, the third husband who has a child with the wife, turned over the emails to her first husband, who also has a child with the wife and he took action to have his child protected from her allegedly abusive relationship with the second husband as did the third husband.

It is here that she got angry and called the police and had the third husband arrested under an obscure state statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

If there were ever a time that I would love to be on jury duty for a case...this is it!

thank you for setting me straight on that.

then, if she did give him her e-mail password, and her consent, she should have revoked her consent by changing her pasword and telling him so.

NDRU said:

That's nothing. This guy hacked into a computer and got charged with rape!!

2 friends of mine last year had same thing happen to them.

He clicked on her facebook log in page "stay logged in" so later on he could go and take a look.

He found out she had been writing to her ex about him being a disappointment in bed

He kicked her out.

It was kind of unfair, people can unload things off their chest all the time, and that's private info. Yes, she probably shouldn't have been saying those things, especially to her EX, but he was a good friend to her

ZombieKitten said:

2 friends of mine last year had same thing happen to them.

He clicked on her facebook log in page "stay logged in" so later on he could go and take a look.

He found out she had been writing to her ex about him being a disappointment in bed

He kicked her out.

It was kind of unfair, people can unload things off their chest all the time, and that's private info. Yes, she probably shouldn't have been saying those things, especially to her EX, but he was a good friend to her

Sounds like he did her a huge favour.

JustErin said:

GetAwayFromMe said:

Sometimes yes, but he's the one who gave me the password. And most of his snail mail has my name on it too. I don't see anything wrong with it.

I understand that some couples share this info and you might not see anything wrong with it, but if the person who's email you're reading without his permission at some point does...then you should be ok with being charged as per the law....because that is the law.

I actually agree with you, but in the spirit of the issue of privacy I have to point out that you share private info about others right here. Yet you seem to support the concept of privacy, not just pointing out the fact that reading others' mail is illegal.

Maybe it is not illegal to post a facebook chat, but I'm not sure that makes it okay.

What do you think?

XxAxX said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Here's the link to a local story covering the situation:

http://www.clickondetroit...etail.html

From what I can gather...

They were married. They each used the same computer in their home. He did not "hack" into her email account. He knew the password because she had previously given it to him, with her consent to check her emails.

He was her third husband. She was allegedly having an affair on him with her second husband (which he discovered in her emails) who was arrested for allegedly abusing her.

The third husband was upset over learning of the affair, which lead to their divorce. During those proceedings, the third husband who has a child with the wife, turned over the emails to her first husband, who also has a child with the wife and he took action to have his child protected from her allegedly abusive relationship with the second husband as did the third husband.

It is here that she got angry and called the police and had the third husband arrested under an obscure state statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

If there were ever a time that I would love to be on jury duty for a case...this is it!

thank you for setting me straight on that.

then, if she did give him her e-mail password, and her consent, she should have revoked her consent by changing her pasword and telling him so.

Yes!

She should have revoked her consent by changing her password...but she didn't have to tell him!

All she had to do was change it.

NDRU said:

JustErin said:

I understand that some couples share this info and you might not see anything wrong with it, but if the person who's email you're reading without his permission at some point does...then you should be ok with being charged as per the law....because that is the law.

I actually agree with you, but in the spirit of the issue of privacy I have to point out that you share private info about others right here. Yet you seem to support the concept of privacy, not just pointing out the fact that reading others' mail is illegal.

Maybe it is not illegal to post a facebook chat, but I'm not sure that makes it okay.

What do you think?

Great question. I never show who's saying it...but you're right, it still is a private chat. I'm not showing someone else's mail/chat...I'm sharing mine.

JustErin said:

NDRU said:

I actually agree with you, but in the spirit of the issue of privacy I have to point out that you share private info about others right here. Yet you seem to support the concept of privacy, not just pointing out the fact that reading others' mail is illegal.

Maybe it is not illegal to post a facebook chat, but I'm not sure that makes it okay.

What do you think?

Great question. I never show who's saying it...but you're right, it still is a private chat. I'm not showing someone else's mail/chat...I'm sharing mine.

yeah I think it's more of a moral question. It can't be illegal to share what someone has sent to you, but if you sent me a picture of your boobs I CERTAINLY would not post it here [wink wink]!!

JustErin said:

ZombieKitten said:

2 friends of mine last year had same thing happen to them.

He clicked on her facebook log in page "stay logged in" so later on he could go and take a look.

He found out she had been writing to her ex about him being a disappointment in bed

He kicked her out.

It was kind of unfair, people can unload things off their chest all the time, and that's private info. Yes, she probably shouldn't have been saying those things, especially to her EX, but he was a good friend to her

Sounds like he did her a huge favour.

they'd only been together for a couple of months, stuff like that can be worked on!

Shorty said:

paintedlady said:

Its ice and snow packed in there.... its a shame that he has to go through all that. Dirty business indeed!

oooh! now I see it. phew!

anyway...there's not a lot of detail in this story. it says he used "their" computer but...it also said she had filed for divorce. When? way before he hacked into her account? was she still living there?

He should have NEVER gone into her mail. period. I don't think he should do jail time though.

Agreed, but why is she suing? Jail time is too harsh, she must be bitter over what's going on.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

XxAxX said:

i got the impression from another article about this that he hacked into her account AFTER she filed for divorce, when he was looking for 'evidence' that he could use against her in the divorce proceedings.

Here's the link to a local story covering the situation:

http://www.clickondetroit...etail.html

From what I can gather...

They were married. They each used the same computer in their home. He did not "hack" into her email account. He knew the password because she had previously given it to him, with her consent to check her emails.

He was her third husband. She was allegedly having an affair on him with her second husband (which he discovered in her emails) who was arrested for allegedly abusing her.

The third husband was upset over learning of the affair, which lead to their divorce. During those proceedings, the third husband who has a child with the wife, turned over the emails to her first husband, who also has a child with the wife and he took action to have his child protected from her allegedly abusive relationship with the second husband as did the third husband.

It is here that she got angry and called the police and had the third husband arrested under an obscure state statute that prohibits unlawful access to a computer system, program or network.

If there were ever a time that I would love to be on jury duty for a case...this is it!

Thanks for the clarification. I don't see any crime committed here and I hope he gets acquitted.