SCNDLS said:

Phaedra Parks

Colorblind

Phaedra addresses all the race issues that have played out on the show.

Hello! I hope everyone's January has been productive and indicative of their New Year's Resolutions wish list. While Sunday's episode edited our four day excursion into a 45 minute fiasco, it did not fully encompass how tense and uncomfortable this girls' getaway truly was. The trip was planned in Cynthia's honor but as the old adage says, "Things don't always work out as planned."

After watching the episode, several possible topics came to mind; the importance of financial planning as it relates to Cynthia and her wedding woes, house guest etiquette and NeNe's lack thereof, Kim and Sweetie's relationship or better yet, NeNe's slave barrage targeted at Sweetie. In the shadow of Martin Luther King's birthday and in the wake of black history month, I decided race relations was the most poignant issue since last two episodes have flirted with this very sensitive topic. Is Kim a racist? Is Sweetie a modern day slave? Is NeNe being a bully as usual, or is she really concerned about Sweetie's well being?

While everyone will have their opinion, as they are rightfully entitled to; personally, I do not think Kim is a racist, nor do I think Sweetie is a modern day slave. However, I do believe that NeNe is a bully and couldn't care less about Sweetie's well being. In this era of political correctness we often skirt around the hard topics, because we are afraid of offending others and do not want to be accused of being a racist. But avoiding sensitive issues does not change our country's history, which is fraught with the mistreatment of people of color. Admittedly, race relations have improved drastically over the past 40 years, but improvement does not heal the wounds caused by the aggregation of disparate treatment. As a person of color, I understand the ramifications of being denied rights, excluded and rejected. A modern day racist doesn't dress in white sheets or burn crosses, they are much more subtle and covert. Unlike Kim, a racist would not employ you or treat you like a family member, as she has with Sweetie. I had the opportunity to have several long conversations with Sweetie and Kim in Miami, and during those chats I realized that Kim and Sweetie have a sibling like relationship that spans well over a decade. My heart went out to Sweetie because as a woman of color, I know comments that evoke historical hatred can make you doubt what you know in your heart is true.

Here's a thought, instead of taking the easy road under the guise of being politically correct and making hasty judgments about matters as serious as racism, we should face the issue and attempt to have transparent dialogue in the direction of resolve. Every culture is different and it's easy to adopt perspectives depicted via various mediums. Opinions do not constitute racism, nor does the way you treat a friend make you a racist. Racism says a whole group of people are inferior because of their skin color and they should not be treated equally. Being politically correct does not change the existence of poor race relations; it just gives us an acceptable mask to hide behind rather than address any real issues. In the words of Pierre Berton, "Racism is a refuge for the ignorant. It seeks to divide and to destroy. It is the enemy of freedom, and deserves to be met head-on and stamped out."

I think I'll take a pass on advice from Phaedra on race relations, given her previous comments about her husband's upbringing. But she still growing on me, I can even say I kinda like her. She's far from the only faker in the group and no where near the worse.

I'll just roll with what Sheree said about Sweetie being a grown woman. She is and she's free to walk away when she pleases.

Ottensen said:

morningsong said:

another week til we get to the real juicy stuff. I really like Miss Bossy Lisa, for now, until her head explodes from her new found celebrity-hood, we’ll see. Even Camille has been growing on me since I’ve seen her in interviews, alone without her entourage, as she defends her image, leaving that “stir the pot then act dumb and innocent” crap at the door, of course she brought it back for the reunion show. I guess she is who she is. I don’t know if I want her to continue on the show. Well maybe, since she can’t lord the whole celebrity queen bee-ness all over everybody she might be fun to watch, how she dates and stuff. I believe Kim has a drinking problem, for me that would explain her kids’ behavior towards her, her weird mousy frailness, why she does try to be there for Kyle yet seems to flake out at bizarre times. And her wanting to get back into acting? Now? Ookay. Maybe Dr. Drew could be a route, but I think she’s far too posh and sophisticated for that bag of nuts.

Did you see on Wendy that Kelsey invited Camille to his wedding and she’s suppose to have accepted? That’s crazy I don’t understand, right there.

Great points. although I still wouldn't trust Camille's inner core any further than I could pick her bony ass up and throw her across a room.

As for accepting Kelsey's wedding invitation? Could be one of two reasons: she really is interested in showing a united front for the sake of her children and to show how evolved she is to the public- however Camille doesn't strike me as being all that altruistic; the other reason could be (and I've seen this sort of thing happen very often in the fashion and music world), she needs to put up a good face and stay in her husband's good graces, because after all, he is the talented one and the powerhouse - with the relevency he has in his industry, he does have the power to have her blackballed in Hollywood, and can make that the circle of acquaintances and contacts she's had over the last 14 years disappear.

I guess you're right. Her and Kelsey must have been perfect for each other in the games playing department, cause he's something else too.

^ Phaedra will never live that comment down about white people and canned food. She's said many a dumb thing but that takes the cake!

morningsong said:

SCNDLS said:

Phaedra Parks

Colorblind

Phaedra addresses all the race issues that have played out on the show.

Hello! I hope everyone's January has been productive and indicative of their New Year's Resolutions wish list. While Sunday's episode edited our four day excursion into a 45 minute fiasco, it did not fully encompass how tense and uncomfortable this girls' getaway truly was. The trip was planned in Cynthia's honor but as the old adage says, "Things don't always work out as planned."

After watching the episode, several possible topics came to mind; the importance of financial planning as it relates to Cynthia and her wedding woes, house guest etiquette and NeNe's lack thereof, Kim and Sweetie's relationship or better yet, NeNe's slave barrage targeted at Sweetie. In the shadow of Martin Luther King's birthday and in the wake of black history month, I decided race relations was the most poignant issue since last two episodes have flirted with this very sensitive topic. Is Kim a racist? Is Sweetie a modern day slave? Is NeNe being a bully as usual, or is she really concerned about Sweetie's well being?

While everyone will have their opinion, as they are rightfully entitled to; personally, I do not think Kim is a racist, nor do I think Sweetie is a modern day slave. However, I do believe that NeNe is a bully and couldn't care less about Sweetie's well being. In this era of political correctness we often skirt around the hard topics, because we are afraid of offending others and do not want to be accused of being a racist. But avoiding sensitive issues does not change our country's history, which is fraught with the mistreatment of people of color. Admittedly, race relations have improved drastically over the past 40 years, but improvement does not heal the wounds caused by the aggregation of disparate treatment. As a person of color, I understand the ramifications of being denied rights, excluded and rejected. A modern day racist doesn't dress in white sheets or burn crosses, they are much more subtle and covert. Unlike Kim, a racist would not employ you or treat you like a family member, as she has with Sweetie. I had the opportunity to have several long conversations with Sweetie and Kim in Miami, and during those chats I realized that Kim and Sweetie have a sibling like relationship that spans well over a decade. My heart went out to Sweetie because as a woman of color, I know comments that evoke historical hatred can make you doubt what you know in your heart is true.

Here's a thought, instead of taking the easy road under the guise of being politically correct and making hasty judgments about matters as serious as racism, we should face the issue and attempt to have transparent dialogue in the direction of resolve. Every culture is different and it's easy to adopt perspectives depicted via various mediums. Opinions do not constitute racism, nor does the way you treat a friend make you a racist. Racism says a whole group of people are inferior because of their skin color and they should not be treated equally. Being politically correct does not change the existence of poor race relations; it just gives us an acceptable mask to hide behind rather than address any real issues. In the words of Pierre Berton, "Racism is a refuge for the ignorant. It seeks to divide and to destroy. It is the enemy of freedom, and deserves to be met head-on and stamped out."

I think I'll take a pass on advice from Phaedra on race relations, given her previous comments about her husband's upbringing. But she still growing on me, I can even say I kinda like her. She's far from the only faker in the group and no where near the worse.

I'll just roll with what Sheree said about Sweetie being a grown woman. She is and she's free to walk away when she pleases.

Say that! Gurl, living in Atlanta don't make you Coretta Scott da Kang

starkitty said:

WHY PHAEDRA CRY going to work for 8 hours but not one tear when she left for a weekend?

You know u right about that. She sure didn't complain or cry or nothing. She was too eager to pump and dump (her words).

Shit she need to cry over them fake ass skrippers that's what she need to cry over. Bunch of dry ass beef with no bone. I wish I would waste 3 dollars on those fools!

I don't believe Poppa is out of the picture either. When he told Kim he didn't want that ring back (her version of the story) I just knew that was incentive for future ass tappin'. Men like that don't spend that kind of money on a woman just to see her hand over he pussy to some other dude. Yeah, just a matter of time before ole Lee come to collect the back rent.

I watched "What Happens Next"....am I the only one who thinks Kim's man is kinda slow? Dude strikes me as someone who would've needed a chaperone to the bathroom in elementary school

bboy87 said:

I watched "What Happens Next"....am I the only one who thinks Kim's man is kinda slow? Dude strikes me as someone who would've needed a chaperone to the bathroom in elementary school

Maybe he was just nervous?

Come to think of it...he may very well be dim bulb. How the hell are you going to let a used trollop like Kim jack your seed and potentially your last name?

Oh snap...y'all know Kim and this Kroy fool are going to have their own reality show right? Yep...Kim's a clever ho. That girl got negotiating skillz!!!! She still aint paid Kandi all the money she owes.

bboy87 said:

I watched "What Happens Next"....am I the only one who thinks Kim's man is kinda slow? Dude strikes me as someone who would've needed a chaperone to the bathroom in elementary school

It was my thought. Dumb as a stump, that's why Kim jacked him, she's in control. Woman, got her retirement plan rolling.

I know I ain't watchin' her and him on no reality show just like I ain't watchin' Bethany. They a'ight in small doses but a whole half hour dedicated to just them and their antics, nuh uh.

bboy87 said:

I watched "What Happens Next"....am I the only one who thinks Kim's man is kinda slow? Dude strikes me as someone who would've needed a chaperone to the bathroom in elementary school

STOPIT!!! Oh, lawd. I was thinking the same thing! He seems like he could be the "deer in the headlights" type.

HotGritz said:

I don't believe Poppa is out of the picture either. When he told Kim he didn't want that ring back (her version of the story) I just knew that was incentive for future ass tappin'. Men like that don't spend that kind of money on a woman just to see her hand over he pussy to some other dude. Yeah, just a matter of time before ole Lee come to collect the back rent.

You really think so? I would think old dude would have a moment of hesitation now that she's knocked up by that NFL player and shackin' her family up with 'em. I say get another mistress for half the costs that this chick takes up

Cynthia's wedding pics are on the Essence website: www.essence.com

starkitty said:

Dry ass beef ahahahahaha I wanna know who's paying Sweetie now.

Prolly coming from the checks she gettin from her new Boo

I maybe she was getting income from her wig line, except there are no traces anywhere in this world where you can walk into a store and find the line is actually sold. Kim's always mentioning her wig line in every press interview but them thangs ain't at no store, ain't on no huuur & beauty selling sites...she basically is offering custom made-to-order wigs by emailing Sweetie at Yahoo! Has somebody explained to her it's cheaper for folks to just go to the local Beauty Supply store? Better yet, Wendy Williams already showed us last year how she sews tracks into her own wigs when they need refreshing. Instead of buying Gucci shoes and diamond rangs, maybe Kim should have had her ass on a plane to China to figure out how to get her stuff into production and out into the marketplace... in a way that folks are interested and can afford it.

Yeah...what happened to KZ locks?

dare I say it's gone the way of She by Sheree and the Twisted Hearts Foundation.

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

I don't believe Poppa is out of the picture either. When he told Kim he didn't want that ring back (her version of the story) I just knew that was incentive for future ass tappin'. Men like that don't spend that kind of money on a woman just to see her hand over he pussy to some other dude. Yeah, just a matter of time before ole Lee come to collect the back rent.

You really think so? I would think old dude would have a moment of hesitation now that she's knocked up by that NFL player and shackin' her family up with 'em. I say get another mistress for half the costs that this chick takes up

Lee Najir strikes me as a "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine" kind of dude. He might not find another mistress as pretty AND freaky as Kim though. Obviously she had some bedroom skills cuz he dropped way too much cash on her. According to ATL gossip, he bought Kim's house for her not to mention that Escalade AND that Bentley. Shit yo average ho just get beauty maintenance & shopping allowance.

HotGritz said:

Ottensen said:

You really think so? I would think old dude would have a moment of hesitation now that she's knocked up by that NFL player and shackin' her family up with 'em. I say get another mistress for half the costs that this chick takes up

Lee Najir strikes me as a "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine" kind of dude. He might not find another mistress as pretty AND freaky as Kim though. Obviously she had some bedroom skills cuz he dropped way too much cash on her. According to ATL gossip, he bought Kim's house for her not to mention that Escalade AND that Bentley. Shit yo average ho just get beauty maintenance & shopping allowance.

I dunno, the women in Atlanta are gorgeous (and I personally don't put Kim in that group), and if he's tired of Atlanta hos' he can always go to Miami where they look even better. I don't think Kim is pretty at all (by gold digging mistress standards), and there is enough competition out there willing to suck and swallow just as fierce as she did now that she's publicly playing football wife formally known as lesbian-dance-music-one-hit-wonder Kim. Having a young coochie popping mistress in her 20's is not the same as having a 30-something got babied up with a public sports figure in the clothes house and jewelry I bought her kind of flame. I also don'gt see her trying o mess up her current hook-up as long as he's got that fat contract.

[Edited 2/3/11 13:09pm]

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

Lee Najir strikes me as a "What's mine is mine and what's yours is mine" kind of dude. He might not find another mistress as pretty AND freaky as Kim though. Obviously she had some bedroom skills cuz he dropped way too much cash on her. According to ATL gossip, he bought Kim's house for her not to mention that Escalade AND that Bentley. Shit yo average ho just get beauty maintenance & shopping allowance.

I dunno, the women in Atlanta are gorgeous (and I personally don't put Kim in that group), and if he's tired of Atlanta hos' he can always go to Miami where they look even better. I don't think Kim is pretty at all (by gold digging mistress standards), and there is enough competition out there willing to suck and swallow just as fierce as she did now that she's publicly playing football wife formally known as lesbian-dance-music-one-hit-wonder Kim. Having a young coochie popping mistress in her 20's is not the same as having a 30-something got babied up with a public sports figure in the clothes house and jewelry I bought her kind of flame. I also don'gt see her trying o mess up her current hook-up as long as he's got that fat contract.

[Edited 2/3/11 13:09pm]

AND 30 is the new 20 so Kim still in the coochie popping game. Dang she got her a 20 something year old baller dude with that 30- year-old used-by a gremlin-pussy.

I'm tellin' ya that chick is nothing to dismiss. She got a platinum playa card and is rackin' up major points.

Those Miami chicks just look ok to me. Actually they all look the same...lately very Kim Kardashianesque.

y'all taking it that she's is actually in her 30's. Me, I still have my doubts, granted Wiki is not all that reliable 'specilly since they have her birthdate listed as 1968 and 1978 based on how you look her up. I lookin' at her face, I say 1968 til I gets proof.

Ottensen said:

starkitty said:

Dry ass beef ahahahahaha I wanna know who's paying Sweetie now.

Prolly coming from the checks she gettin from her new Boo

I maybe she was getting income from her wig line, except there are no traces anywhere in this world where you can walk into a store and find the line is actually sold. Kim's always mentioning her wig line in every press interview but them thangs ain't at no store, ain't on no huuur & beauty selling sites...she basically is offering custom made-to-order wigs by emailing Sweetie at Yahoo! Has somebody explained to her it's cheaper for folks to just go to the local Beauty Supply store? Better yet, Wendy Williams already showed us last year how she sews tracks into her own wigs when they need refreshing. Instead of buying Gucci shoes and diamond rangs, maybe Kim should have had her ass on a plane to China to figure out how to get her stuff into production and out into the marketplace... in a way that folks are interested and can afford it.

She's selling wigs made from cooch hair on Yahoo Auctions

bboy87 said:

I watched "What Happens Next"....am I the only one who thinks Kim's man is kinda slow? Dude strikes me as someone who would've needed a chaperone to the bathroom in elementary school

Ya, he seemed like a fucking idiot.

Which is really quite surprising. Since most jocks are comparable to rocket scientists.

And I LOVED how the kaniving mother was holding out on giving up the marriage license. That was good TV there. Wish she wouldn't of handed it over.

HotGritz said:

Ottensen said:

I dunno, the women in Atlanta are gorgeous (and I personally don't put Kim in that group), and if he's tired of Atlanta hos' he can always go to Miami where they look even better. I don't think Kim is pretty at all (by gold digging mistress standards), and there is enough competition out there willing to suck and swallow just as fierce as she did now that she's publicly playing football wife formally known as lesbian-dance-music-one-hit-wonder Kim. Having a young coochie popping mistress in her 20's is not the same as having a 30-something got babied up with a public sports figure in the clothes house and jewelry I bought her kind of flame. I also don'gt see her trying o mess up her current hook-up as long as he's got that fat contract.

[Edited 2/3/11 13:09pm]

AND 30 is the new 20 so Kim still in the coochie popping game. Dang she got her a 20 something year old baller dude with that 30- year-old used-by a gremlin-pussy.

I'm tellin' ya that chick is nothing to dismiss. She got a platinum playa card and is rackin' up major points.

Those Miami chicks just look ok to me. Actually they all look the same...lately very Kim Kardashianesque.

They look airbrushed and overdressed.

Nobody in Miami looks like that. dresses like that, or wears that much frickin' make-up (during the day time), do you know how damn hot and humid it is there? See, this is where you start to see how this show is a franchise, because they have a very set look and image that they're projecting to the viewing audience for branding's sake. The dark haired thing I can cut them slack on, cuz of all the spicy latinos existing in Miami the city is till overwhelmingly Cuban (not Afro-cuban, they all immigrated to Europe ), so the land is up to its' eyeballs in olive/tan skinned ladies with long dark hair ( i think that's why I originally didn't get the visual fascination with the Kardashians, they looked so ordinary Miami-South American to me)

Still, I don't know about these Miami chicks, though. They already got off on the wrong foot with me with those fraudulent aesthetics. There are other folks on here from Miami so I hope they join in with commentary when the show starts!

Ottensen said:

HotGritz said:

AND 30 is the new 20 so Kim still in the coochie popping game. Dang she got her a 20 something year old baller dude with that 30- year-old used-by a gremlin-pussy.

I'm tellin' ya that chick is nothing to dismiss. She got a platinum playa card and is rackin' up major points.

Those Miami chicks just look ok to me. Actually they all look the same...lately very Kim Kardashianesque.

They look airbrushed and overdressed.

Nobody in Miami looks like that. dresses like that, or wears that much frickin' make-up (during the day time), do you know how damn hot and humid it is there? See, this is where you start to see how this show is a franchise, because they have a very set look and image that they're projecting to the viewing audience for branding's sake. The dark haired thing I can cut them slack on, cuz of all the spicy latinos existing in Miami the city is till overwhelmingly Cuban (not Afro-cuban, they all immigrated to Europe ), so the land is up to its' eyeballs in olive/tan skinned ladies with long dark hair ( i think that's why I originally didn't get the visual fascination with the Kardashians, they looked so ordinary Miami-South American to me)

Still, I don't know about these Miami chicks, though. They already got off on the wrong foot with me with those fraudulent aesthetics. There are other folks on here from Miami so I hope they join in with commentary when the show starts!

OMG I'm dying over that!

But you aint lyin' one bit! I've not seen the whole made up, jeweled up, dressed up look in Miami; not even Orlando! I can't take the weather though, the humidity fucks me up. My hair poofs up like Chaka Khan and my skin breaks out.

Yeah I don't get the fascination with the Kardashian look but I guess you have to grow up around Latin peoples, I include Italians in that group too, and see the tan skin/dark hair/dark eyes on a regular basis.

I'd love to hear what the Miami natives have to say.... Isn't the show supposed to start next week? I thought they delayed the NYC show in order to push up the debut for Miami.

morningsong said:

I think people would really embrass Kim if she'd open up about her situation, but they wanna keep it all hush hush, more power to them.

Kyle still seems angry and distant from her sister, that whole pillow move was interesting, but they're working it out. I get the feeling Kim has had some abuse issues in her past.

Wow, Cedric must have been laying it on really thick to get in Lisa's will, that's big. It's sad that he was lying the whole time. 5$ says he's still going to the tabloids with some BS.

I'm betting Camille will be back for season 2, damage control was done, and who'll fight with Kyle.

Now I think Adrienne is the real queen bee of the group, something about a look she gave Lisa, seem to shut her up for a second, eh.

HotGritz said:

morningsong said:

I think people would really embrass Kim if she'd open up about her situation, but they wanna keep it all hush hush, more power to them.

Kyle still seems angry and distant from her sister, that whole pillow move was interesting, but they're working it out. I get the feeling Kim has had some abuse issues in her past.

Wow, Cedric must have been laying it on really thick to get in Lisa's will, that's big. It's sad that he was lying the whole time. 5$ says he's still going to the tabloids with some BS.

I'm betting Camille will be back for season 2, damage control was done, and who'll fight with Kyle.

Now I think Adrienne is the real queen bee of the group, something about a look she gave Lisa, seem to shut her up for a second, eh.

Remember I was casting doubt on his sob story about being left in a phone booth by his ho mom? Turns out he has a family!