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Teens Trash Spike Lee Over Absolut Brooklyn Vodka Marketing Presence In Neighborhood

Krystal Chapman (r.), Shenel Gunnis (c.), and Amaya Santos pose in front of brownstones in Brooklyn. The teens are critical of Spike Lee's marketing of his vodka in their neighborhood.

Spike Lee put Bedford-Stuyvesant on the cinematic map, but some teens think he sold out the neighborhood with his Brooklyn-themed Absolut Vodka promo.

The kids did a survey of alcohol advertising posters and billboards in the area and found the logo designed by Lee dominated.

"I've seen his movies. I was a really big fan. But he lost respect from me," said Shenel Gunnis, 17.

"You're not supposed to be promoting stuff like that in areas that can barely afford food."

She's one of 10 teens who scoured Bed-Stuy this summer, mapping booze promos for the Children's Aid Society.

They tallied 56 and were surprised that Lee's limited-edition label - featuring the stoop of a Brooklyn brownstone - was the one that popped up over and over.

Frank Moore, 19, said he'd like to tell the "Do the Right Thing" helmsman that's just wrong.

"I'd be like, 'Why? Do you understand what you're doing ... that you're putting up an ad for liquor and you know there's an alcoholism problem here?'" he said.

"My thing with Spike Lee is you should use your prestige and position of power to help the problem, not add on to it."

Lee did not return a call left at his office and hung up on a reporter who reached him on his cell phone. A spokeswoman for Absolut had no immediate comment.

The limited-edition bottle rolled out last summer is emblazoned with the phrase "A Spike Lee Collaboration." In the ads, the bottle is superimposed on a photo of Brooklynites on stoops.

The teens felt Lee was trying to capitalize on borough pride.

"He was targeting us when normally he would make movies that would uplift our community," said Krystal Chapman, 17, a senior at the High School for Public Service in Crown Heights.

"I think it is hypocritical."

Amaya Santos, 17, of East Flatbush, counted 28 Absolut ads in the Utica Ave. subway station.

"I thought, 'Spike Lee, What's going on here?' There's no reason why there should be 28 ads of the same thing in less than a mile," Santos said.

Survey organizer Robert Cornegy was blown away by the teens' strong feelings about Lee's involvement in the campaign.

"They're being inundated with alcohol advertising in this neighborhood," said Cornegy, 44, who heads prevention resources for the Children's Aid Society. "They recognized an icon to them was responsible for some of the ads."

The bottle for Absolut Brooklyn, billed as 'a Spike Lee Collaboration.'

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Reply #1 posted 11/03/10 9:31am

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Wait is this true? Spike is actually endorsing Vodka??? eek eek

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Reply #2 posted 11/03/10 10:17am

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disbelief Mmhmm..and you guys have good nerve to talk shit about Tyler Perry, look at this fool.

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Reply #3 posted 11/03/10 10:29am

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disbelief Mmhmm..and you guys have good nerve to talk shit about Tyler Perry, look at this fool.

Word.

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Reply #4 posted 11/03/10 11:03am

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Right. Because the people in that neighborhood are babes in the woods who can't be trusted to make sound decisions. rolleyes

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Reply #5 posted 11/03/10 11:14am

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Smart kids, I support their stand.
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Reply #6 posted 11/03/10 11:17am

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Umm yeah, I'm expecting a statement to be released by him about this mess pretty soon. This is extremely hypocritical.

Too much of this shit going around recently...first Quincy Jones is crucifying MJ's PYT by remaking it with T-Pain of all people on the track, Public Enemy is relying on fan's donations in order to make their next album...yet they are on tour rolleyes, now Spike Lee, Mr. "Call'em Out" is endorsing vodka in a Brooklyn neighborhood??? Wait why is he even endorsing ANY KIND OF liquor at all??? Yeah he got a lot of explaining to do.

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Reply #7 posted 11/03/10 12:44pm

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missfee said:

Umm yeah, I'm expecting a statement to be released by him about this mess pretty soon. This is extremely hypocritical.

Too much of this shit going around recently...first Quincy Jones is crucifying MJ's PYT by remaking it with T-Pain of all people on the track, Public Enemy is relying on fan's donations in order to make their next album...yet they are on tour rolleyes, now Spike Lee, Mr. "Call'em Out" is endorsing vodka in a Brooklyn neighborhood??? Wait why is he even endorsing ANY KIND OF liquor at all??? Yeah he got a lot of explaining to do.

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though in truth quincy been releasing a lot of crap for a hot min...

like a decade or two. lol

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Reply #8 posted 11/03/10 1:28pm

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paisleypark4 said:

disbelief Mmhmm..and you guys have good nerve to talk shit about Tyler Perry, look at this fool.

Exactly. nod

Say what all of you will about Tyler "Madea" Perry. At least the MFer never sold his people out to a freaking Vodka compamy.

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Reply #9 posted 11/03/10 1:29pm

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missfee said:

Wait is this true? Spike is actually endorsing Vodka??? eek eek

MEMO: Spike Lee is.........

Boule.

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Reply #10 posted 11/03/10 1:38pm

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Right. Because the people in that neighborhood are babes in the woods who can't be trusted to make sound decisions. rolleyes

..and you''re an authority on this particular neighborhood because..? confuse

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Reply #11 posted 11/03/10 1:40pm

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TonyVanDam said:

missfee said:

Wait is this true? Spike is actually endorsing Vodka??? eek eek

MEMO: Spike Lee is.........

Boule.

lurking

You's a mess Tony lol

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Reply #12 posted 11/03/10 2:10pm

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Ottensen said:

Genesia said:

Right. Because the people in that neighborhood are babes in the woods who can't be trusted to make sound decisions. rolleyes

..and you''re an authority on this particular neighborhood because..? confuse

The neighborhood doesn't matter. Don't you find the idea that people have to be "protected from themselves" just a teeeeeeny bit insulting?

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Genesia said:

Right. Because the people in that neighborhood are babes in the woods who can't be trusted to make sound decisions. rolleyes

Please with that..let's just say that you have to DRIVE to the liquor store in ...other suburban likeareas rolleyes where in Brooklyn you can find beer at every corner store...before YOU HIT the Liquor store.

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paisleypark4 said:

Genesia said:

Right. Because the people in that neighborhood are babes in the woods who can't be trusted to make sound decisions. rolleyes

Please with that..let's just say that you have to DRIVE to the liquor store in ...other suburban likeareas rolleyes where in Brooklyn you can find beer at every corner store...before YOU HIT the Liquor store.

Please, yourself. I live in Wisconsin, where there's a liquor-selling grocery store or convenience store, a liquor store, or tavern within walking distance of just about anywhere you happen to be. For the entire state.

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Reply #15 posted 11/03/10 3:05pm

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Spike is being a total hypocrite. Is he going to call himself out on his own bullshit?

Oh and good on those girls. clapping

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Reply #16 posted 11/03/10 4:24pm

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I live in Bed Stuy and we drink Hennessy! Vodka is soooo Brooklyn Heights!!!lol

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Reply #17 posted 11/03/10 6:40pm

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SCNDLS said:

TonyVanDam said:

MEMO: Spike Lee is.........

Boule.

lurking

You's a mess Tony lol

nod shhh

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Reply #18 posted 11/03/10 6:45pm

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Genesia said:

paisleypark4 said:

Please with that..let's just say that you have to DRIVE to the liquor store in ...other suburban likeareas rolleyes where in Brooklyn you can find beer at every corner store...before YOU HIT the Liquor store.

Please, yourself. I live in Wisconsin, where there's a liquor-selling grocery store or convenience store, a liquor store, or tavern within walking distance of just about anywhere you happen to be. For the entire state.

The bar rooms & pubs in Louisiana are opened 24/7. And mind you, they have plenty of liquor stores as well. Some are open during overnight hours.

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Reply #19 posted 11/03/10 7:56pm

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Spike is being a total hypocrite. Is he going to call himself out on his own bullshit?

Oh and good on those girls. clapping

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Reply #20 posted 11/04/10 12:02am

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I don't get what the problem is. Spike's not forcing vodka down anyone's throat. He's not telling those under 21 to drink til they puke or telling everyone in Bed-Stuy to drink themselves to death. It's up to each individual to act responsibly and to buy whatever they damn well please.

Now, if he stated earlier that he would never endorse alcohol, then yeah, he's being hypocritical. But top-shelf liquor, which is intended for everyone, is different than, say, malt liquor, which is targeted only to the black community.

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

I don't get what the problem is. Spike's not forcing vodka down anyone's throat. He's not telling those under 21 to drink til they puke or telling everyone in Bed-Stuy to drink themselves to death. It's up to each individual to act responsibly and to buy whatever they damn well please.

Now, if he stated earlier that he would never endorse alcohol, then yeah, he's being hypocritical. But top-shelf liquor, which is intended for everyone, is different than, say, malt liquor, which is targeted only to the black community.

I wonder if John Singleton would sided with girls OR side with Spike in this debate.

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Reply #22 posted 11/04/10 5:03am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:

I don't get what the problem is. Spike's not forcing vodka down anyone's throat. He's not telling those under 21 to drink til they puke or telling everyone in Bed-Stuy to drink themselves to death. It's up to each individual to act responsibly and to buy whatever they damn well please.

Now, if he stated earlier that he would never endorse alcohol, then yeah, he's being hypocritical. But top-shelf liquor, which is intended for everyone, is different than, say, malt liquor, which is targeted only to the black community.

Your statement is true and I agree with it, but that's not where the source of my problem of this lies. My problem with this is throughout the years Spike has spoken up and called people out on this and that when he felt that they were doing wrong and that their actions weren't helping the black community. Well here we go, as has been mentioned before, alcohol can be found just as easy as finding a fast food chicken chain in a black neighborhood (hate to be sterotypical, but it is true...just sayin')...so does endorsing vodka with the ads all over the place in a black neighborhood help the black community? Hmmm nope.

Now if he was just a director and that's it, then came with this ad, then oh well to each his own. Who am I to complain. But when you open your mouth and point your fingers at other people, then you better make sure that you are practicing what you are preaching. What it looks like here is that he is doing the same exact thing he has been complaining about with others in the past. Just my two cents. wink

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Reply #23 posted 11/04/10 5:09am

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alexnvrmnd777 said:


I don't get what the problem is. Spike's not forcing vodka down anyone's throat. He's not telling those under 21 to drink til they puke or telling everyone in Bed-Stuy to drink themselves to death. It's up to each individual to act responsibly and to buy whatever they damn well please.



Now, if he stated earlier that he would never endorse alcohol, then yeah, he's being hypocritical. But top-shelf liquor, which is intended for everyone, is different than, say, malt liquor, which is targeted only to the black community.



Your statement is true and I agree with it, but that's not where the source of my problem of this lies. My problem with this is throughout the years Spike has spoken up and called people out on this and that when he felt that they were doing wrong and that their actions weren't helping the black community. Well here we go, as has been mentioned before, alcohol can be found just as easy as finding a fast food chicken chain in a black neighborhood (hate to be sterotypical, but it is true...just sayin')...so does endorsing vodka with the ads all over the place in a black neighborhood help the black community? Hmmm nope.



Now if he was just a director and that's it, then came with this ad, then oh well to each his own. Who am I to complain. But when you open your mouth and point your fingers at other people, then you better make sure that you are practicing what you are preaching. What it looks like here is that he is doing the same exact thing he has been complaining about with others in the past. Just my two cents. wink


And there it is.
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TonyVanDam said:



Genesia said:




paisleypark4 said:



Please with that..let's just say that you have to DRIVE to the liquor store in ...other suburban likeareas rolleyes where in Brooklyn you can find beer at every corner store...before YOU HIT the Liquor store.




Please, yourself. I live in Wisconsin, where there's a liquor-selling grocery store or convenience store, a liquor store, or tavern within walking distance of just about anywhere you happen to be. For the entire state.




The bar rooms & pubs in Louisiana are opened 24/7. And mind you, they have plenty of liquor stores as well. Some are open during overnight hours.






No don't try and give me that, we all know damn well that liquor store come full circle in the hood in urabn areas with easy access..I live in minneapolis and I BET that in any suburb I go to there will NOT be a liquor store within a mile radius, don't play me.

Last but not least have any of you watched Bamboozled? Remember the commercial where he potrayed black people were guzzling some new type of Malt Liquor, pouring it all over some half naked chick (or something to that degree?) Or did you all just forget about that? He is a two faced filmmaker and somebody put him on blast point blank.
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Reply #25 posted 11/04/10 8:41am

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paisleypark4 said:

TonyVanDam said:

The bar rooms & pubs in Louisiana are opened 24/7. And mind you, they have plenty of liquor stores as well. Some are open during overnight hours.

No don't try and give me that, we all know damn well that liquor store come full circle in the hood in urabn areas with easy access..I live in minneapolis and I BET that in any suburb I go to there will NOT be a liquor store within a mile radius, don't play me. Last but not least have any of you watched Bamboozled? Remember the commercial where he potrayed black people were guzzling some new type of Malt Liquor, pouring it all over some half naked chick (or something to that degree?) Or did you all just forget about that? He is a two faced filmmaker and somebody put him on blast point blank.

fishslap

Oh settle down with THAT cup of coffee you're drinking! I know all too well about liquor stores in the hood. nod And there is a suburb that I know of that have liquor stores. It's called Metaire, Louisiana. I would know becaue I've live there for almost 6 years pre-Katrina.

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TonyVanDam said:

paisleypark4 said:

TonyVanDam said: No don't try and give me that, we all know damn well that liquor store come full circle in the hood in urabn areas with easy access..I live in minneapolis and I BET that in any suburb I go to there will NOT be a liquor store within a mile radius, don't play me. Last but not least have any of you watched Bamboozled? Remember the commercial where he potrayed black people were guzzling some new type of Malt Liquor, pouring it all over some half naked chick (or something to that degree?) Or did you all just forget about that? He is a two faced filmmaker and somebody put him on blast point blank.

fishslap

Oh settle down with THAT cup of coffee you're drinking! I know all too well about liquor stores in the hood. nod And there is a suburb that I know of that have liquor stores. It's called Metaire, Louisiana. I would know becaue I've live there for almost 6 years pre-Katrina.

We can go back and forth for days because in a little area I know called Lake Of The Isles and Brooklyn Park in Minneapolis, I cant find a liquor store the first unless you go to the hood, or by the mall ...and I don't see no types of advertisements for beer over there...and never have.

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paisleypark4 said:

TonyVanDam said:

fishslap

Oh settle down with THAT cup of coffee you're drinking! I know all too well about liquor stores in the hood. nod And there is a suburb that I know of that have liquor stores. It's called Metaire, Louisiana. I would know becaue I've live there for almost 6 years pre-Katrina.

We can go back and forth for days because in a little area I know called Lake Of The Isles and Brooklyn Park in Minneapolis, I cant find a liquor store the first unless you go to the hood, or by the mall ...and I don't see no types of advertisements for beer over there...and never have.

Do you know if the liquor stores in MPLS are open 24/7 or just daytime hours? I'm only asking out of curiousity.

Either way, I agree with you. Too many liquor stores in the hood has conspiracy written all over it.

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paisleypark4 said:

TonyVanDam said:

fishslap

Oh settle down with THAT cup of coffee you're drinking! I know all too well about liquor stores in the hood. nod And there is a suburb that I know of that have liquor stores. It's called Metaire, Louisiana. I would know becaue I've live there for almost 6 years pre-Katrina.

We can go back and forth for days because in a little area I know called Lake Of The Isles and Brooklyn Park in Minneapolis, I cant find a liquor store the first unless you go to the hood, or by the mall ...and I don't see no types of advertisements for beer over there...and never have.

nod True. According to this article there were 28 ads in a mile radius in this Brooklyn neighborhood. Are these type of ads concentrated to the same degree in white neighborhoods???

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TonyVanDam said:



paisleypark4 said:




TonyVanDam said:




fishslap



Oh settle down with THAT cup of coffee you're drinking! I know all too well about liquor stores in the hood. nod And there is a suburb that I know of that have liquor stores. It's called Metaire, Louisiana. I would know becaue I've live there for almost 6 years pre-Katrina.






We can go back and forth for days because in a little area I know called Lake Of The Isles and Brooklyn Park in Minneapolis, I cant find a liquor store the first unless you go to the hood, or by the mall ...and I don't see no types of advertisements for beer over there...and never have.




Do you know if the liquor stores in MPLS are open 24/7 or just daytime hours? I'm only asking out of curiousity.



Either way, I agree with you. Too many liquor stores in the hood has conspiracy written all over it.



No the liquor stores in mpls close by nine / ten o'clock I believe...and the weekends earlier...plus Sunday..no luck..you have to drive to wisconsin.
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