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Reply #30 posted 10/06/10 11:09am

Number23

I'd love to call up but I don't have skype and Americans generally find my thick accent difficult to understand. I dislike modulating it. I've sometimes had to use my seriously dodgy impression of an American accent to talk to orgers (usually Hannibal from A-Team or Lion-O from Thundercats) which is just a bit weird.
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Reply #31 posted 10/06/10 11:25am

ernestsewell

Accents are awesome!

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Reply #32 posted 10/06/10 11:34am

2elijah

Celebrities Team Up for Anti-Bullying Campaigns

http://www.popeater.com/2...id=webmail

September, five teenage boys killed themselves after being physically or verbally (or both) assaulted for being gay. The suicides of Tyler Clementi, 18, Billy Lucas, 15, Asher Brown, 13, Justin Aaberg, 15, and Seth Walsh, 13, have brought national attention to the epidemic of bullying in American schools.

Now, a number of stars, many of whom have personal experience with anti-gay bullying, are speaking out in hopes of raising awareness and providing support to teens and young adults who are being victimized or who are having trouble dealing with their sexuality. The topic is also addressed in a cover story for this week's PEOPLE magazine and in a week-long series on CNN's Anderson Cooper 360.
Most recently, 'Project Runway' mentor Tim Gunn spoke candidly about his own suicide attempt and his support for The Trevor Project, a national 24-hour, toll-free confidential suicide hotline for gay and questioning youth. "I understand the desperation. I understand the despair," an emotional Gunn said with tears in his eyes. "And I understand how isolated you can feel ... It will get better. I promise."


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Following Billy Lucas' death, well-known columnist and author Dan Savage launched the "It Gets Better" campaign – a series of user-created YouTube videos in which gay adults openly discuss the torment they incurred in high school and encourage GLBT youth to stick it out because "it gets better." Clementi's death has inspired an overwhelming response to the campaign, which has since been flooded with videos from men and women across the world sharing their stories.

"When a gay teenager commits suicide, it's because he can't picture a life for himself that's filled with joy and family and pleasure and is worth sticking around for," Savage told MTV a week after Clementi's death. "So I felt it was really important that, as gay adults, we show them that our lives are good and happy and healthy and that there's a life worth sticking around for after high school."

Savage's "It Gets Better" message has seemingly become the rallying cry around which a movement against anti-gay bullying has centered, with Anne Hathaway, Jenny McCarthy, Ian Somerhalder and Kristin Cavallari recording a PSA for The Trevor Project that uses the motto. 'Harry Potter' star Daniel Radcliffe also recently spoke to MTV about the importance of the Trevor Project.



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Reply #33 posted 10/06/10 12:05pm

ernestsewell

@2elijah: I've seen closely watching AC360, and have the DVR set to record Ellen's show today. She was on AC360 last night from her studio. Ellen tapes her show a day in advance, and that means Andy Cooper will be on her show today, talking about the bullying subject. (Just a note to the viewers.)

CNN has also done morning segments over the past couple of days on different bullying stories, including one from my home state of Oklahoma, about an 11 year old boy, Tyler Smalley, who (I think) shot himself after two years of bullying. His father is now on a mission to stop bullying in the schools in Oklahoma and nationwide. Justin Aaaberg's mother, Tammy, is on the same mission, and was on Larry King Live on Monday, along with Wanda Sykes, Kathy Griffin, etc.

I also plan to make my own It Gets Better video. It's something I've been thinking about how to approach for a while now, since I heard about it.

I'm glad all of these people are out there, and speaking about it. My fear is that in two months, by the time Christmas Trees, Hanukkah Bushes, and Kwanzaa Topiaries are sprouting up, we'll have all but forgotten about the ongoing problem. We've already forgotten about Haiti.

My biggest hope is that one It Gets Better video, one radio show, one segment on CNN, one moment on the Ellen show, or whatever, affects a gay teen thinking about putting a belt around their neck and jumping from their futon frame (which is what Justin Aaberg did), or putting a bullet through their head, and they realize that there are those of us out there who give a big fat shit about their lives. These kids are the one who are going to be taking care of us when we're old. Why are we letting them die? We're all so fucking complacent and "I don't wanna be involved" that death is around us, and the blood is on our hands, unless we do something.

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Reply #34 posted 10/06/10 12:09pm

Number23

Were you ever bullied, ernest?
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Reply #35 posted 10/06/10 1:36pm

ernestsewell

Number23 said:

Were you ever bullied, ernest?

For about 6-7 years of my 12 year education, as well as most of my military time (which, looking back, was an incredibly dangerous situation). I'll talk about it on the show.

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Reply #36 posted 10/06/10 2:46pm

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Bullying is so horrible and really fucks people up, but in a way I think its a part of life and no matter what campaigns there are I don't think bullying will ever completley go away, like racism or homophobia, it may dimish over time but never become extinct.

Luckily I was never bullied in school, I did get the odd abusive remark a couple of times a week, but never full blown excessive soul crushing bullying. Which I've always been greatful for, as many kids got bullied in school who were normal wheras I went in with bleach blonde long hair wearing womens coats and having many piercings and odd bags and little girls bracelets and all kinds of crazy things that really made me a target. & yet I was never seriously physically or verbally abused (had a few rocks lobbed at me, though!)

I think me being voted "Most likley to become a serial killer" may have had something to do with it!!!

I look forward to watching this as I am a fan of Wanda Sykes and Tim Gunn biggrin thanks for sharing.

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Reply #37 posted 10/06/10 4:08pm

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In PSA video, 'Project Runway' host Tim Gunn says he tried to commit suicide as a teenager

at 18:36 on October 06, 2010, EDT.
By The Associated Press
FILE - In this Aug. 20, 2009 file photo, Tim Gunn, host and mentor of the cable television show "Project Runway," poses for photos during an interview in New York. (AP Photo/Richard Drew, file)
FILE - In this Aug. 20, 2009 file photo, Tim Gunn, host and mentor of the cable television show "Project Runway," poses for photos during an interview in New York. (AP Photo/Richard Drew, file)

NEW YORK, N.Y. - In an empathetic public service announcement video directed at depressed young people, Tim Gunn says he tried to kill himself when he was 17.

The "Project Runway" host and fashion guru made the video for the Trevor Project, an organization dedicated to youth suicide prevention. In it, Gunn addresses "gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgendered and questioning youth" and says that when he was a teen, he was "in quite a bit of despair" and took more than 100 pills.

Speaking directly to the camera, the 57-year-old Gunn says he is "very happy today that attempt was unsuccessful." He promised to those experiencing similar hardship: "It gets better. It really does."

The video had some 70,000 views as of Wednesday evening.

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Online: http://www.thetrevorproject.org/


©The Canadian Press, 2010
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Reply #38 posted 10/06/10 4:40pm

XxAxX

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Cerebus said:

XxAxX said:

mind you, i am not attacking you as a person, i am simply tired of people who think that they own the right to control other people and what they do or do not post.

sorry ernest. that is what i was talking about.

out

You're not very bright, are you? lol

well, sometimes no, i'm not genius.

and, you're right. i did butt in and i'm taking a peeve out on you, partly. to the extent that i did, i'm sorry for over reacting to your posts.

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Reply #39 posted 10/06/10 5:53pm

ernestsewell

It's 7 minutes until show time! Join in the chat!

http://bit.ly/9c1P2p

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Reply #40 posted 10/06/10 6:03pm

2elijah

ernestsewell said:

@2elijah: I've seen closely watching AC360, and have the DVR set to record Ellen's show today. She was on AC360 last night from her studio. Ellen tapes her show a day in advance, and that means Andy Cooper will be on her show today, talking about the bullying subject. (Just a note to the viewers.)

CNN has also done morning segments over the past couple of days on different bullying stories, including one from my home state of Oklahoma, about an 11 year old boy, Tyler Smalley, who (I think) shot himself after two years of bullying. His father is now on a mission to stop bullying in the schools in Oklahoma and nationwide. Justin Aaaberg's mother, Tammy, is on the same mission, and was on Larry King Live on Monday, along with Wanda Sykes, Kathy Griffin, etc.

I also plan to make my own It Gets Better video. It's something I've been thinking about how to approach for a while now, since I heard about it.

I'm glad all of these people are out there, and speaking about it. My fear is that in two months, by the time Christmas Trees, Hanukkah Bushes, and Kwanzaa Topiaries are sprouting up, we'll have all but forgotten about the ongoing problem. We've already forgotten about Haiti.

My biggest hope is that one It Gets Better video, one radio show, one segment on CNN, one moment on the Ellen show, or whatever, affects a gay teen thinking about putting a belt around their neck and jumping from their futon frame (which is what Justin Aaberg did), or putting a bullet through their head, and they realize that there are those of us out there who give a big fat shit about their lives. These kids are the one who are going to be taking care of us when we're old. Why are we letting them die? We're all so fucking complacent and "I don't wanna be involved" that death is around us, and the blood is on our hands, unless we do something.

Yes, I saw the article about Tyler Smalley's father on a mission to stop bullying. Very, heartbreaking story, and it seems the victims are getting younger. Parents need to teach their children how to respect others. Respect starts in the home.

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Reply #41 posted 10/06/10 7:03pm

Mach

Ma-Shell-Lay here giggle

so did you read what I wrote in the chat ?

does that make me a bully ?

boxed

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Reply #42 posted 10/06/10 7:30pm

ernestsewell

Mach said:

Ma-Shell-Lay here giggle

so did you read what I wrote in the chat ?

does that make me a bully ?

boxed

hahaha I was watching the chat, and I saw you being silly in there. fishslap

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Reply #43 posted 10/06/10 7:32pm

Cerebus

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ernestsewell said:

Cerebus said:

Also, the entire reason I asked Ernest if he was going to include internet forums is because nearly all of his responses are dismissive, rude and condescending. In that regard I found his choice of topic quite ironic.

Listen sunshine, you can call me a bully all you wish, either directly or subversively, but it's bullshit. You don't like how I post or that I tell it like it is? Who cares. A bully has a harsh, and sustained campaign against an individual in order to intimidate, and strike fear into. I've never done that, even on the Org. So find your irony in the fact that you're on my ass trying to call me out on something that doesn't exist, bully.


lol I'm nowhere NEAR your ass, "sunshine". Must have struck pretty close to the mark for you to get you panties so bunched, though. razz

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Reply #44 posted 10/06/10 7:32pm

Mach

ernestsewell said:

Mach said:

Ma-Shell-Lay here giggle

so did you read what I wrote in the chat ?

does that make me a bully ?

boxed

hahaha I was watching the chat, and I saw you being silly in there. fishslap

nevermind

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Reply #45 posted 10/06/10 7:33pm

Cerebus

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Oh, and you don't call it how it is, you call it how YOU SEE IT and expect everyone else to bow down to your truth. Bully. rolleyes

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Reply #46 posted 10/06/10 7:40pm

ernestsewell

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Oh, and you don't call it how it is, you call it how YOU SEE IT and expect everyone else to bow down to your truth. Bully. rolleyes

Bzzt, wrong. Your sustained campaign to try and label me a bully makes YOU the bully. Most of my notes were taken from written material, or the CNN stuff that's been on the past few days. So I guess you should go bully AC360, CNN in general, and other places. Get your head out of the sand. Your labels don't stick because they're not true.

I also noticed you had no balls to call in and try to speak your mind. Guess that also makes you weak.

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Reply #47 posted 10/07/10 8:15am

Mach

Mach said:

ernestsewell said:

hahaha I was watching the chat, and I saw you being silly in there. fishslap

Nevermind then

looks like bitchfight is more important than the Bully topic lol

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Reply #48 posted 10/07/10 12:50pm

ernestsewell

Part Two is tonight! 9 p.m. EDT. Vendetta1 - you're still welcomed (as is anyone) to call in and talk about bullying, cyberbullying, and how it's affected you. Tonight I plan to talk more about my story - and I'm ready to take more calls too.

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Reply #49 posted 10/07/10 12:55pm

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hopefully I won't be treated with the same dismissive attitude that frequently accompanies your responses, Ernest.

I have most certainly seen you post with a bullying attitude on more than one occasion. To condemn it when presented one way, yet still do it yourself in other ways comes across as talking out of both sides of your mouth.

If you truly have been a victim of bullying in your life, perhaps a little more open attitude to how you speak to others would go a long way.

Just my two cents. hug



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Reply #50 posted 10/07/10 1:01pm

Cerebus

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ernestsewell said:

Cerebus said:

Oh, and you don't call it how it is, you call it how YOU SEE IT and expect everyone else to bow down to your truth. Bully. rolleyes

Bzzt, wrong. Your sustained campaign to try and label me a bully makes YOU the bully. Most of my notes were taken from written material, or the CNN stuff that's been on the past few days. So I guess you should go bully AC360, CNN in general, and other places. Get your head out of the sand. Your labels don't stick because they're not true.

I also noticed you had no balls to call in and try to speak your mind. Guess that also makes you weak.

lol You are so dellusional. People call you on this stuff all the time, yet it's all THEM with the problem. My "sustained campaign"? Put your victim card away, "sunshine". This is the SECOND THREAD in which I've said anything to you. You can try to prove otherwise, but you'll fail. I purposely ignored you after the last thread in which I told you how I felt and you came back with a "stunning" one-liner. rolleyes lol I only commented in this thread because the irony was too much to stomach.

I'm not labelling you anything, I'm pointing out a clear truth. You rip into people in a dismissive and condescending manner on a regular basis as if it's your inalienable right. It's not, it's some punk bullshit.

No balls to speak my mind? What the hell do you think I'm doing? And you're calling me weak now? lol I can see full well why your fellow enlistees would give you a hard time. And I told you already, I'm sure your ten listeners have got your back. I have nothing to prove to you nor would I ever give you the COMPLIMENT of participating in your nonsense.

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Reply #51 posted 10/07/10 1:20pm

ernestsewell

Cerebus said:

lol You are so dellusional. People call you on this stuff all the time, yet it's all THEM with the problem. My "sustained campaign"? Put your victim card away, "sunshine". This is the SECOND THREAD in which I've said anything to you. You can try to prove otherwise, but you'll fail. I purposely ignored you after the last thread in which I told you how I felt and you came back with a "stunning" one-liner. rolleyes lol I only commented in this thread because the irony was too much to stomach.

I'm not labelling you anything, I'm pointing out a clear truth. You rip into people in a dismissive and condescending manner on a regular basis as if it's your inalienable right. It's not, it's some punk bullshit.

No balls to speak my mind? What the hell do you think I'm doing? And you're calling me weak now? lol I can see full well why your fellow enlistees would give you a hard time. And I told you already, I'm sure your ten listeners have got your back. I have nothing to prove to you nor would I ever give you the COMPLIMENT of participating in your nonsense.

Hmmm according to you, bully, I'm dellusional, I'm a hypocrite, a victim, etc. Again and again w/ your nonsense, bully. Okay, bully. You prove my point every time you blather on, bully.

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Reply #52 posted 10/07/10 1:24pm

ernestsewell

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hopefully I won't be treated with the same dismissive attitude that frequently accompanies your responses, Ernest.

I have most certainly seen you post with a bullying attitude on more than one occasion. To condemn it when presented one way, yet still do it yourself in other ways comes across as talking out of both sides of your mouth.

If you truly have been a victim of bullying in your life, perhaps a little more open attitude to how you speak to others would go a long way.

Just my two cents. hug

Perhaps you should look up what "bullying" really means. You can disagree with me on here, and not even like my tactics, but I'm not a bully. Perhaps that's a buzz word for you, or whoever, but I'm not really about that sort of thing. My words are true, and I have nothing to hide, especially over two nights of live radio, unedited, speaking the truth.

The bottom line is - if anyone doesn't want to hear it, don't listen. Same goes for my posts, or anyone's posts, on the internet.

I don't appreciate, but won't lose sleep, over your slightly questioning "If" on the fact that I was bullied for over half of my school years, and in the military for another 2 years. If I wasn't open to discussing any of it, I wouldn't be doing the shows, nor would I even bring it up here. Think about it.

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Reply #53 posted 10/07/10 1:32pm

JoeTyler

Bullying always features a strong tormentor and a weak victim. If the target/victim is strong and fights back or seeks external help, the tormentor will surely go away.

One clear solution against bullying is to encourage bullied children and teenagers to seek the help of their parents and/or teachers without fear, guilt or embarrassment. I'm not against physical retaliation, I mean, the victims fighting back their tormentors, but I admit that violence usually leads to more trouble, or tragedy...

But the figure of the "weak victim that cannot defend him/herself and doesn't know what to do" has to disappear... society must protect good people against bullies, specially in school...Increasing the level of discipline and control in schools should be the first step. The bullies and the slackers must be detected, severely punished if necessary and then reeducated...

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Reply #54 posted 10/07/10 1:49pm

Fenwick

ernestsewell said:

JerseyKRS said:

hopefully I won't be treated with the same dismissive attitude that frequently accompanies your responses, Ernest.

I have most certainly seen you post with a bullying attitude on more than one occasion. To condemn it when presented one way, yet still do it yourself in other ways comes across as talking out of both sides of your mouth.

If you truly have been a victim of bullying in your life, perhaps a little more open attitude to how you speak to others would go a long way.

Just my two cents. hug

Perhaps you should look up what "bullying" really means. You can disagree with me on here, and not even like my tactics, but I'm not a bully. Perhaps that's a buzz word for you, or whoever, but I'm not really about that sort of thing. My words are true, and I have nothing to hide, especially over two nights of live radio, unedited, speaking the truth.

The bottom line is - if anyone doesn't want to hear it, don't listen. Same goes for my posts, or anyone's posts, on the internet.

I don't appreciate, but won't lose sleep, over your slightly questioning "If" on the fact that I was bullied for over half of my school years, and in the military for another 2 years. If I wasn't open to discussing any of it, I wouldn't be doing the shows, nor would I even bring it up here. Think about it.

E - You know I love you brother.

Regarding you and Cerebus - I ain't going near that with a 4 million foot pole.

But I do think Jersey's post was heartfelt. IMO, he, in a non-abrasive way tried telling you how you come across sometimes. Whether it specifically be "bullying" or just abrasive, you are a strongly opinionated guy. And sometimes that leads to blunt responses that can easily be interpreted as a form of hostility from those who want to take it that way. I personally have never had a single issue with you but in our many conversations I've told you I would have handled certain things differently from time to time.

Not saying any one of us is "right" or "wrong", just saying I think Jersey's post was forthright and more worthy of a back and forth - again - IMO. (I also don't think his "perhaps" was questioning the authenticity of your past, but just a way of suggesting how you could use your past to shape how you talk with people now).

Hope my two cents is construed as helpful and not taken as an intrusion. I like both you and Jersey a lot and hope this is a welcome observation from the flight deck. (For the record, I like Cerebus too, but I think I'd rather trust Michael Vick with my pit bull than get in them middle of that one)!!!

PS - There's a 50/50 chance I may be able to make the show tonight if I can get out of work at a reasonable hour.

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Reply #55 posted 10/07/10 1:59pm

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you never fail to deliver, Ernest. Enjoy your pretty little world.



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Reply #56 posted 10/07/10 2:05pm

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ernestsewell said:

JerseyKRS said:

hopefully I won't be treated with the same dismissive attitude that frequently accompanies your responses, Ernest.

I have most certainly seen you post with a bullying attitude on more than one occasion. To condemn it when presented one way, yet still do it yourself in other ways comes across as talking out of both sides of your mouth.

If you truly have been a victim of bullying in your life, perhaps a little more open attitude to how you speak to others would go a long way.

Just my two cents. hug

Perhaps you should look up what "bullying" really means. You can disagree with me on here, and not even like my tactics, but I'm not a bully. Perhaps that's a buzz word for you, or whoever, but I'm not really about that sort of thing. My words are true, and I have nothing to hide, especially over two nights of live radio, unedited, speaking the truth.

The bottom line is - if anyone doesn't want to hear it, don't listen. Same goes for my posts, or anyone's posts, on the internet.

I don't appreciate, but won't lose sleep, over your slightly questioning "If" on the fact that I was bullied for over half of my school years, and in the military for another 2 years. If I wasn't open to discussing any of it, I wouldn't be doing the shows, nor would I even bring it up here. Think about it.

oh yeah, let me state this also:

if someone feels you've bullied them, you're a bully. Whether you think you are or not.

and stop using every post to pimp your bullshit myopic podcast. rolleyes way to call out cerebus for not tuning in...I wouldn't either. Why support people you don't agree with? To hear your holier than thou ass in person? Please.

and no, we'll call you out on your shit, all the time...every time. Not that it makes any difference as I think you've already become a master of negating any confrontation to how you need it to fit your life.

let me end this shit like you. BZZZZZZZZ! try again next time sister talk to the hand

judge not lest you be judged Ernest. that should make sense to even you.



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Reply #57 posted 10/07/10 2:09pm

Fenwick

Insert GIF of Fenwick sneaking off stage......

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Reply #58 posted 10/07/10 2:10pm

ernestsewell

JerseyKRS said:

oh yeah, let me state this also:

"....a sustained, and harsh campaign against a target". BINGO.

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Reply #59 posted 10/07/10 2:10pm

JerseyKRS

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Fenwick said:

Insert GIF of Fenwick sneaking off stage......

nah, stay for the show. at least until Ernest decides to stop responding to me, that's usually how he ends discussions he doesn't agree with.



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