Harlepolis said:

that one too....

That Sarah Palin's grandbaby is actually HER baby!

DesireeNevermind said:

Or was it that her baby was actually Brillo's baby? Whatever...not believing any of that shit.

Harlepolis said:

I refuse to believe that too. I know C.L. was kinda shady but not like this.

Timmy84 said:

Lord!!!!!

C.L. had a child with one of his church congregates who was barely in her teens.

Timmy84 said:

Timmy84 said:

I still don't know the story behind her mother, that woman is completely outta the picture.

Harlepolis said:

His relationship with Barbara Siggers was real rough I heard. C.L. cheated on her with a lot of women including Clara Ward. Aretha is probably trying to keep a lot of shit to herself because I think she knows what happened between her parents. C.L.'s ass didn't even attend Barbara's funeral when she died in '52.

Timmy84 said:

CLARA WARD?!?

Damn, that woman even became sort of a god mother to Aretha. That sure is a raised eyebrow moment.

I'm still amazed that there still not a proper Aretha Franklin biography though hell, I can't even think of a proper James Brown bio either.

Harlepolis said:

That's common with many black stars

And speaking of Barbara, she got a rushed treatment in Aretha's "From These Dug Up Roots" book,,,so, I don't think C.L. was alone for his treatment toward Barbara.

Still makes it even more of a reason to know about the woman,,,I don't buy the "she abandoned the family" bullshit, if you ask me, I think there's more to it than that.

bboy87 said:

Yeah but ReRe & JB are not "any" stars, period. They're ROYLATY, thats the difference.

Harlepolis said:

Maybe it's because black folk don't like to air their dirty laundry under any circumstance.

Harlepolis said:

True, but people are okay with speculation and bullshit, they don't care about the truth

Do you know a good Sammy Davis Jr. biography?

DesireeNevermind said:

Says who?

Harlepolis said:

well unofficial airing that is.

DesireeNevermind said:

Well shit baby, nobody wants that

If there's gonna be a bio for each of ReRe & JB in the same level as Divied Souls(Marvin's) I'll be SO content.

Even though the book clearly illustrated Marvin's gift as an artist, it also portrayed him as a human being with his share of faults and demons. And god knows that Aretha & JB have their share otherwise they wouldn't make pain and depression sound so damn good.

But unlike Marvin(who's VERY blunt about his shortcomings), Aretha is very TOUGH on folks who publish about herlife(and rightfully so) when some journalist made an article that she was battling alcoholism, she took his ass to court.

And J.B., man, nobody even had the NERVE to say anything about him I saw Soul Survivor and it looked like everybody was kept on a short leash, like they were scared to say something that may piss him off or something(even after they were all retired from his band at that point),,,,it was ONLY Lynn Collins who said that she was through with the phone tabbing and the possessiveness.

Harlepolis said:

Their lives were reportedly real fucked up. We've got indication of how rough James' life was but Aretha's is having problems keeping shut.

Harlepolis said:

Yeah and for some reason Aretha keeps defending her shady daddy.

Harlepolis said:

that's perhaps the kind of fear that results in bios not coming out until a person's dead. the fear of lawsuits and ass kicking is quite powerful. But with Retha...I think even after she's dead we still won't get the whole story.