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Reply #90 posted 03/20/10 2:04am

Lotus2unfld

Muse2NoPharaoh said:

TheVoid said:

I have a drivers license, and think I will always have one. I can't fathom not at least having the option to drive someplace in a rental if I want or need to.

I've always owned a car (since I was 17) and this will be the first year that I don't actually own one. I did the math on owning a car in the states and it ran to something like $2000+ a year even without payments (more with payments), when you factor in tires, maintenance, checkups, etc. etc.

The issue is that unless you live in NYC or a metropolitan city with really good public transportation, then a car is a necessity in the USA. Couple with the fact that I'm a home owner, my house is in the suburbs, and Tampa's public transportation is ...subpar... a car was just necessary. Plus I owned a kayak, and needed a way of getting my boat to and from the water.

Here in Bangkok, there's little reason to own a car because the transportation system is so good here---you can get ANYWHERE in the city on a bus, subway/train, boat, or any other vehicle imaginable. And it's all pretty cheap.

I can't say that I miss driving at all honestly, and wish urban centers would all have public transportation systems that actually worked. America is way, way, waaaaayyyyy behind the curb on transportation.



Its going to be damn hard to pull that one off given how much open land expanse we have. The earth's sixth-largest continent, Europe about 4 million square miles in size, covers an area a little bit bigger than the United States

So, Our one country economy cant compete with the Fifty (50) self-governing political entities that exist in Europe. So we are likely to stay wayyyyy behind the curve for a long time to come. Although I imagine we will live to see it or be cockroaches crawling through it for our crimes here on earth! lol



yeah, and here in the States they once had (what was it called) the Red Car line once? It is said that that was an exceptionally effecient means of
public transportation years ago all through the LA area.

However (comma) as I understand it, Firestone tire company lobbied some politicians and bought it so they could tear it out. Guess Firestone didn't think they were selling enough tires for automobiles. Now the city realizes that they really need the Red Car back but ... too many buildings have been built up and they'll never pull it off structurally and get that re-installed.
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Reply #91 posted 03/20/10 2:39am

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Lotus2unfld said:

Nikademus said:



The car I have now, a 91 Ford Tempo, is on the verge of hitting 23,000 miles. That is not a typo.



WOW. I had to do a double take. That car is what ..almost 20yrs old and just now barely broken in? how did you manage that, if I may ask?


I got it from a little old lady who mainly drove it to church. FOR REAL.

I lucked out hardcore...she did not have a garage so the outside is kinda rough, but the interior is near mint (she's a non smoker woot! )
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Reply #92 posted 03/20/10 3:50am

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I've had my licence since I was 23. I would have had it sooner but I was in a bad car accident when I was 19 and was too nervous to get behind the wheel of a car.

I have a Peugeot 307. I have to have it working and with petrol in the tank at all times, in case my youngest has a bad run of SVTs (her heart starts running too fast) and I have to get her to the hospital.

Driving in the uk is LUDICROUSLY expensive but in my town the transportation system sucks
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Reply #93 posted 03/20/10 4:00am

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I've had my licence since I was 23. I would have had it sooner but I was in a bad car accident when I was 19 and was too nervous to get behind the wheel of a car.

I have a Peugeot 307. I have to have it working and with petrol in the tank at all times, in case my youngest has a bad run of SVTs (her heart starts running too fast) and I have to get her to the hospital.

Driving in the uk is LUDICROUSLY expensive but in my town the transportation system sucks




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It sure is. It is more a privilege than a right here.

I did not get my US license until I was 19 (which is really late) due to being in 5 car accidents. (Other ppl driving obviously) One was a major one involving a drunk driver. I had no desire to get my license for a while after all of that.
I have a US license but do not have my UK one.
I have driven here in the first year when I was still legal to drive. Once I got pregnant, I stopped. Now I would have to get my UK one to drive.
I would be fine to drive here if I could just stick to the motorway. It is the tiny roads and roundabouts that scare the crap out of me.
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Reply #94 posted 03/20/10 5:32am

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Lotus2unfld said:

Nikademus said:



The car I have now, a 91 Ford Tempo, is on the verge of hitting 23,000 miles. That is not a typo.



WOW. I had to do a double take. That car is what ..almost 20yrs old and just now barely broken in? how did you manage that, if I may ask?

it has no wheels nod
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Reply #95 posted 03/20/10 11:01am

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Lotus2unfld said:




WOW. I had to do a double take. That car is what ..almost 20yrs old and just now barely broken in? how did you manage that, if I may ask?

it has no wheels nod


I'll take a pic of the odometer when I go to work today:P
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Reply #96 posted 03/20/10 4:27pm

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Huggiebear said:




Oh yeah I forgot, America the cultural and technological leader in the world still uses an outdated measurement system, that most of the world discarded in the 1970s.
Translation into American "120,000 miles on the Speedometer" I think. It means the automobile has travelled 120,000 miles since it was assembled in 1992.


my 95 camry has 116,000 (km not miles)
that's very low isn't it eek
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Compared 2 me that is low, especially for a 15 year old car, thats only 7800 km a year. I think you should get at least 5 more years out of it yet.
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #97 posted 03/20/10 6:10pm

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Huggiebear said:

ZombieKitten said:



my 95 camry has 116,000 (km not miles)
that's very low isn't it eek
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Compared 2 me that is low, especially for a 15 year old car, thats only 7800 km a year. I think you should get at least 5 more years out of it yet.


compared to Nik it's incredibly high!! but at least my car has wheels whew
I only take it to church and back on a Sunday.


My electrics are failing though cry

central locking - f@$%ed
ignition - f@$%ed

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Reply #98 posted 03/20/10 10:52pm

Nikademus

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Huggiebear said:




Compared 2 me that is low, especially for a 15 year old car, thats only 7800 km a year. I think you should get at least 5 more years out of it yet.


compared to Nik it's incredibly high!! but at least my car has wheels whew
I only take it to church and back on a Sunday.


My electrics are failing though cry

central locking - f@$%ed
ignition - f@$%ed

bawl


My car has wheels rolleyes


I took this just before I left for work today...




Here is a pic of the mileage part of the title that came with the car when I bought it a little over a month ago, showing how many miles it has on it when the lady bought it back in 97. I think I may have driven it more in the last month than it's been driven in the last year.



Sorry if it's a little hard to read but I do not have a scanner and the only digital camera I have is my phone...


had to fix a pic edit...
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Reply #99 posted 03/21/10 3:00am

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ZombieKitten said:

Huggiebear said:




Compared 2 me that is low, especially for a 15 year old car, thats only 7800 km a year. I think you should get at least 5 more years out of it yet.


compared to Nik it's incredibly high!! but at least my car has wheels whew
I only take it to church and back on a Sunday.


My electrics are failing though cry

central locking - f@$%ed
ignition - f@$%ed

bawl



Mines in good nick, although we had to buy it a new starter motor last year, and here in NZ your car has to get a warrant of fitness every six months (Which involves a deatiled inspection), It passed December last year but failed in June and cost $1600 to bring up to speed, otherwises its all original, but dosen't have a radio (Due to wharfies ripping radios out of cars in the old days as in the 90s many cars came out of Japan, but this stopped after 2005, due to speedometer winding back controversies and cars that were in poor mechanical condition).
So what are u going 2 do? R u just gonna sit there and watch? I'm not gonna stop until the war is over. Its gonna take a long time
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Reply #100 posted 03/21/10 7:08am

Cinnie

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink
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Reply #101 posted 03/21/10 11:20am

30peacessilver

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Who doesn't? and why?

And if you have the licence, do you have a car of your own? And which car?

of course i have a licence oh and as cars one jeep /one explorer/one motercycle/one mercedes and one horse drawn wagon--i dont own a bicycle
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Reply #102 posted 03/21/10 11:42am

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Cinnie said:

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink


That sucks!
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Reply #103 posted 03/21/10 12:06pm

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Cinnie said:

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink

sad I need to watch it too. The DMV just sent a letter warning me about my points. The last speeding ticket last month gave them reason to issue a warning. It's like they're out to get me. mad
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Reply #104 posted 03/21/10 12:16pm

Cinnie

AnckSuNamun said:

Cinnie said:

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink

sad I need to watch it too. The DMV just sent a letter warning me about my points. The last speeding ticket last month gave them reason to issue a warning. It's like they're out to get me. mad


You know, it was double-divided, it was midnight on a weekday, everyone in bed, I was going 60-ish like the rest of the stretch.

For some reason one section for a couple blocks slows down to 50 (still don't understand why) and there was a ghost van parked in front of someone's house with no one sitting in it, with a camera. neutral

Like... that's fuckin' cheap, man.
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Reply #105 posted 03/21/10 3:24pm

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Cinnie said:

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink

your mailbox must be really fast omg



doh!
that was terrible err falloff
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Reply #106 posted 03/21/10 5:10pm

Lotus2unfld

Nikademus said:

Lotus2unfld said:




WOW. I had to do a double take. That car is what ..almost 20yrs old and just now barely broken in? how did you manage that, if I may ask?


I got it from a little old lady who mainly drove it to church. FOR REAL.

I lucked out hardcore...she did not have a garage so the outside is kinda rough, but the interior is near mint (she's a non smoker woot! )



that rocks. lucky you. wished i could come across good car deals like that.

cars can be painted... if one wants to. it's notthat big a deal as long as the engine is in great condition. sounds like you got a heck of a find there.

congradulations. smile
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Reply #107 posted 03/21/10 5:23pm

Lotus2unfld

30peacessilver said:

JoeTyler said:

Who doesn't? and why?

And if you have the licence, do you have a car of your own? And which car?

of course i have a licence oh and as cars one jeep /one explorer/one motercycle/one mercedes and one horse drawn wagon--i dont own a bicycle



like your quote btw. good words. Now on the post ... you own a horse drawn wagon? smile

what about a horse?
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Reply #108 posted 03/21/10 11:00pm

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Lotus2unfld said:

Nikademus said:



I got it from a little old lady who mainly drove it to church. FOR REAL.

I lucked out hardcore...she did not have a garage so the outside is kinda rough, but the interior is near mint (she's a non smoker woot! )



that rocks. lucky you. wished i could come across good car deals like that.

cars can be painted... if one wants to. it's notthat big a deal as long as the engine is in great condition. sounds like you got a heck of a find there.

congradulations. smile


Thanks smile
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Reply #109 posted 03/22/10 11:46am

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Lotus2unfld said:

30peacessilver said:


of course i have a licence oh and as cars one jeep /one explorer/one motercycle/one mercedes and one horse drawn wagon--i dont own a bicycle



like your quote btw. good words. Now on the post ... you own a horse drawn wagon? smile

what about a horse?

....ya, a horse drawn wagon with a pulling team, im from mintana so if we get any poorer up here it will be the thing to drive, besides people ride horses thru town during summer
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Reply #110 posted 03/22/10 2:28pm

Cinnie

ZombieKitten said:

Cinnie said:

I just got a speed radar ticket in my mailbox mad neutral cool wink

your mailbox must be really fast omg

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Reply #111 posted 03/22/10 9:07pm

Lotus2unfld

30peacessilver said:

Lotus2unfld said:




like your quote btw. good words. Now on the post ... you own a horse drawn wagon? smile

what about a horse?

....ya, a horse drawn wagon with a pulling team, im from mintana so if we get any poorer up here it will be the thing to drive, besides people ride horses thru town during summer



they still ride horses through your town? wow. that's amazing. I love horses. I used ride a Palimino gilding every day after school when I was a girl. The horse was trained parade horse. wasn't mine just pastured there. so I got to ride it. I havent been around horses in a long time. That horse saved my life once. something you never forget.

Soooo... what kind of pulling team? do you mean clydsdale?

btw...what kind of motorcycle do you ride? I think those are awesome. I don't have a license for a motorcycle. Actually I can't even say I know how to drive one. I dated a couple guys (at different times of course) that each owned a bike. Big fun to go riding. And in this economy .... GREAT on gas too! smile


Drove a championship dirt bike once. Once was enough for me. kept getting mixed up on how the gears go and kept downshifting ... popped a wheely or two
went flying off into the desert .... nearly killed myself. I was trying NOT to lay it down. But ... finally it got to the point .. it was me or the bike.
The bike lost. lol. I never did that again.
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Reply #112 posted 03/22/10 10:21pm

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Cinnie said:

AnckSuNamun said:


sad I need to watch it too. The DMV just sent a letter warning me about my points. The last speeding ticket last month gave them reason to issue a warning. It's like they're out to get me. mad


You know, it was double-divided, it was midnight on a weekday, everyone in bed, I was going 60-ish like the rest of the stretch.

For some reason one section for a couple blocks slows down to 50 (still don't understand why) and there was a ghost van parked in front of someone's house with no one sitting in it, with a camera. neutral

Like... that's fuckin' cheap, man.

That would probably be my luck too, to get caught by a camera. lol How many points are you allowed up there....before you lose your license?
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Reply #113 posted 03/22/10 10:25pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

Cinnie said:



You know, it was double-divided, it was midnight on a weekday, everyone in bed, I was going 60-ish like the rest of the stretch.

For some reason one section for a couple blocks slows down to 50 (still don't understand why) and there was a ghost van parked in front of someone's house with no one sitting in it, with a camera. neutral

Like... that's fuckin' cheap, man.

That would probably be my luck too, to get caught by a camera. lol How many points are you allowed up there....before you lose your license?


I don't know what the rule is. I only get photo radar tickets though and those don't count for points anyway. Because a real human with eyes would see I was not trying to speed. Just those fuckin' radar traps. Funny they didn't choose to park it in the 60 zone, just the short 50 strip.
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Reply #114 posted 03/22/10 10:37pm

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Cinnie said:

AnckSuNamun said:


That would probably be my luck too, to get caught by a camera. lol How many points are you allowed up there....before you lose your license?


I don't know what the rule is. I only get photo radar tickets though and those don't count for points anyway. Because a real human with eyes would see I was not trying to speed. Just those fuckin' radar traps. Funny they didn't choose to park it in the 60 zone, just the short 50 strip.

Lucky. Not the case here. They hide and damn near ambush you.....just dying to ticket you. lol. One of the last tickets I got was at night after work, around midnight too. I was one of the few cars on the road at the time. At night, it's hard to tell police cars, so I just figured it was some random speed demon psycho riding my bumper with bright ass headlights. I hate when cars ride my bumper, so I sped up.....next thing I know....blue lights. It kinda pissed me off. mad
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Reply #115 posted 03/23/10 1:11am

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Nope. I've never driven a car in my life. Never had a lesson. Never even had a go with a friend or family.

I've driven motorbikes though.

I'd rather have a horse.
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Reply #116 posted 03/23/10 10:21am

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AnckSuNamun said:

Cinnie said:



I don't know what the rule is. I only get photo radar tickets though and those don't count for points anyway. Because a real human with eyes would see I was not trying to speed. Just those fuckin' radar traps. Funny they didn't choose to park it in the 60 zone, just the short 50 strip.

Lucky. Not the case here. They hide and damn near ambush you.....just dying to ticket you. lol. One of the last tickets I got was at night after work, around midnight too. I was one of the few cars on the road at the time. At night, it's hard to tell police cars, so I just figured it was some random speed demon psycho riding my bumper with bright ass headlights. I hate when cars ride my bumper, so I sped up.....next thing I know....blue lights. It kinda pissed me off. mad


I mean... yeah, go notice and stop someone who is obviously racing somewhere, but I was hardly tearing up the pavement neutral
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Reply #117 posted 03/23/10 6:03pm

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Lotus2unfld said:

30peacessilver said:


....ya, a horse drawn wagon with a pulling team, im from mintana so if we get any poorer up here it will be the thing to drive, besides people ride horses thru town during summer



they still ride horses through your town? wow. that's amazing. I love horses. I used ride a Palimino gilding every day after school when I was a girl. The horse was trained parade horse. wasn't mine just pastured there. so I got to ride it. I havent been around horses in a long time. That horse saved my life once. something you never forget.

Soooo... what kind of pulling team? do you mean clydsdale?

btw...what kind of motorcycle do you ride? I think those are awesome. I don't have a license for a motorcycle. Actually I can't even say I know how to drive one. I dated a couple guys (at different times of course) that each owned a bike. Big fun to go riding. And in this economy .... GREAT on gas too! smile


Drove a championship dirt bike once. Once was enough for me. kept getting mixed up on how the gears go and kept downshifting ... popped a wheely or two
went flying off into the desert .... nearly killed myself. I was trying NOT to lay it down. But ... finally it got to the point .. it was me or the bike.
The bike lost. lol. I never did that again.

funny a palimino saved your lfe and mine is named Hannible lol /ride just a yamaha off road/you dont need a licence to ride on private land and its the best for trail riding in the mountains/ it is still legal to ride horses in town-mostly for training purposes/ my team is comprised of 2 rescued paso finos/but every fall we have charriot races in full costume-4horses fresian teams(coal black)/OMG it is so sexy/ you sound adventurous and smart-im surprised you arent getting back on that motorcycle
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Reply #118 posted 03/24/10 12:15am

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Yes. I live in America's 14th-largest city by population, but our public transportation is ranked #100. That's pathetic. We finally have some serious plans for a real system, including rail lines, but it'll take time to finalize things and start building.

When the weather is nice, I'll walk to my office (about 1.1 miles each way), but in winter, forget it.

Also, while most of business travel is to state and federal courts that are mere blocks from my office, I have to be prepared to travel anywhere in the state. Next month I have a hearing in New Albany, Indiana, which is a two-hour drive each way.

During my Seattle years, I did not own a car by choice, but still maintained a license, in part so I could use Zipcar.
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Reply #119 posted 03/24/10 12:59am

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tackam said:

Don't currently own a working one, but probably will again shortly.


Is the Bimmer not running, or did you sell it?

I was at the BMV last week to put a new plate on mine, and they said it'll qualify for a "historic vehicle" plate in 2012.
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