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Reply #90 posted 09/08/09 7:38pm

PunkMistress

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Vendetta1 said:

PunkMistress said:



Huh?
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Really, Ivy, I don't get it. Where did I say my older kids weren't vaccinated?

And it's probably never a good idea, when someone calls you crazy, to respond with some psychobabble poetry about The Hand Of Judgment, followed by some random punctuation, and then QUOTE YOURSELF at the end.

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Reply #91 posted 09/08/09 7:39pm

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P.S. That last post (c) Punkmistress 2021 cuz my hand is futuristic.
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Reply #92 posted 09/08/09 7:42pm

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your is spelled you're

Dan??


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Reply #93 posted 09/08/09 7:43pm

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Lotus2unfld said:

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You sound like a fucking crackpot.



how many kids under the age of 5 do you presently have?


I'm not talking about kids that were vaccinated 20 or 30 years ago with no problem ...that are now adults

when it comes to my kid...my MY CHILDS good health. You don't have any business calling me names for a damn thing.

I have every right to ask my childs doctor questions ... to research a topic and whatever I need to do to keep my child healthy.

and if the doctor try's to intimidate ...and or gets nervious ... I mean this doctor REALLy reacted in a funny / odd way... to my questions and he didn't want to answer them.... at first....but I have a every right to notice and to choose.

so kiss off.

I'll bet you don't have any kids under the age of 5... at present.



You don't know what the hell you're talking about. The mercury issue is old news, and vaccines have only become safer in the past 10 years. The manufacturers actually responded to the general unfounded freaking-out over their preservatives and changed them in almost all vaccines. Mercury is a natural part of our surroundings, and while large quantities are clearly unsafe, there is no reason to think that the minute amounts that kids miiiight still be exposed to are harmful. When it comes to all chemicals, dose is everything. The wrong dose of almost ANYthing will kill you, and the right dose of almost ANYthing is either beneficial or harmless.

You're making it sound as though an extremely devoted parent (PunkMistress) doesn't give a fuck about her kids, and it's generous of her to not tell you exactly where to put your fool head.
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Reply #94 posted 09/08/09 7:44pm

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Lotus2unfld said:


do you care for your kids full time....do they live with you full time ... ?


Yes. Always have, Gary.
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Reply #95 posted 09/08/09 7:45pm

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You guys, it's generally considered bad manners to harass mental patients. In case you weren't sure.
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Reply #96 posted 09/08/09 7:46pm

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meow85 said:

You guys, it's generally considered bad manners to harass mental patients. In case you weren't sure.


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Reply #97 posted 09/08/09 7:46pm

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PunkMistress said:

Vendetta1 said:

spit


Really, Ivy, I don't get it. Where did I say my older kids weren't vaccinated?

And it's probably never a good idea, when someone calls you crazy, to respond with some psychobabble poetry about The Hand Of Judgment, followed by some random punctuation, and then QUOTE YOURSELF at the end.

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I love the part where you are called ignorant when this person has clearly not entertained the other side of the issue such as vaccines not being stored in mercury containing containers anymore OR the fact that I already said she has every right not to vaccinate her kids.
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Reply #98 posted 09/08/09 7:47pm

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Vendetta1 said:

PunkMistress said:



Really, Ivy, I don't get it. Where did I say my older kids weren't vaccinated?

And it's probably never a good idea, when someone calls you crazy, to respond with some psychobabble poetry about The Hand Of Judgment, followed by some random punctuation, and then QUOTE YOURSELF at the end.

neutral
I love the part where you are called ignorant when this person has clearly not entertained the other side of the issue such as vaccines not being stored in mercury containing containers anymore OR the fact that I already said she has every right not to vaccinate her kids.


I just want to hear more of her poetry.
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Reply #99 posted 09/08/09 7:47pm

Vendetta1

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your is spelled you're

Dan??
Oh my hernia. falloff
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Reply #100 posted 09/08/09 7:48pm

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PunkMistress said:

meow85 said:

You guys, it's generally considered bad manners to harass mental patients. In case you weren't sure.


redface

I was released a long time ago!

Oh, not you. You've been out for a while.

I was referring to Ms. OutOnADaypass above.
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Reply #101 posted 09/08/09 7:51pm

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meow85 said:

You guys, it's generally considered bad manners to harass mental patients. In case you weren't sure.


Well, fuck. doh!
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Reply #102 posted 09/08/09 7:54pm

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Goodnight, y'all. lol
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Reply #103 posted 09/08/09 8:05pm

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This is an important issue, and I'm happy to see some links to scientific websites. When we have kids, they'll surely be vaccinated.
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Reply #104 posted 09/08/09 11:29pm

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tackam said:

TonyWilliams said:

Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950 A1 says:

'... In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen ... such as influenza A and influenza B in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.'

The patent was published in March 2009, a month before the virus was released in Mexico in April, but it was filed seven months before this 'new strain' was officially known about. It is the most blatant set-up you could ever see.

The patent includes the following ingredients and toxicity warning:

'Suitable adjuvants can be selected from mineral gels, aluminium hydroxide, surface active substances, lysolecithin, pluronic polyols, polyanions or oil emulsions such as water in oil or oil in water, or a combination thereof. Of course, the selection of the adjuvant depends on the intended use. E.g. toxicity may depend on the destined subject organism and can vary from no toxicity to high toxicity.'

Nice.


Sorry, what was your issue with this? Are you suggesting that Baxter invented swine flu?

You do understand that H1N1 is not new, and the flu jumping from one species to another is not some never-before-heard-of, shocking thing?

You do also understand that they're saying at the end there that what is toxic to one species may not be toxic to another, right? They're not saying that they might give highly toxic vaccines to humans.

So. . . confuse





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Reply #105 posted 09/09/09 4:37am

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This is the most entertaining thread we've had in a looooong time. popcorn
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Reply #106 posted 09/09/09 5:14am

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As a kid, I was not vaccinated. As a mom, I've had all my kids vaccinated. My middle son has autism. Have I thought that vaccines may have. been responsible? Yes. If I could go back and change history? Maybe I would not have had him vaccinated. But it would have been a personal choice. I am never going to tell other parents not to.

I think thats the question, why one childs outcome was autism and not your other children. Maybe instead of trying to ban vaccinations or to enforce vaccinations, they need to find out why it triggers (if in fact it does) in some children and not others. I met someone recently who's child at the age of 4yrs old (he's now 20) developed grade 1 diabetes and they told him they think some vegetables can trigger it, sort of a bacteria, but should we ban vegetables?. They need to find out why? I wonder if the strength of the vaccination is too much for some children. I know some medications even headache tablets effect me, my body can't take it, so unless absolute necessary I don't. Having said that, I had my children vaccinated, again I was given the reports and it was my choice. Anyway, my love to you..
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Reply #107 posted 09/09/09 6:36am

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Lotus2unfld said:

PunkMistress said:




You sound like a fucking crackpot.



how many kids under the age of 5 do you presently have?


I'm not talking about kids that were vaccinated 20 or 30 years ago with no problem ...that are now adults

when it comes to my kid...my MY CHILDS good health. You don't have any business calling me names for a damn thing.

I have every right to ask my childs doctor questions ... to research a topic and whatever I need to do to keep my child healthy.

and if the doctor try's to intimidate ...and or gets nervious ... I mean this doctor REALLy reacted in a funny / odd way... to my questions and he didn't want to answer them.... at first....but I have a every right to notice and to choose.

so kiss off.

I'll bet you don't have any kids under the age of 5... at present.


I have a child under 5. He's vaccinated with no problems. As I said in an earlier post, my ex's son who is 5 years old has not had a single vaccine and is autistic.

Just saying.
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Reply #108 posted 09/09/09 7:03am

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Vendetta1 said:

JerseyKRS said:

your is spelled you're

Dan??
Oh my hernia. falloff



It's not even 5 o'clock here, I'm not done workin', but this thread makes me want to pour a drink. The nonsense being spewed in some of these posts lol lol lol martini
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Reply #109 posted 09/09/09 8:24am

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Ottensen said:

Vendetta1 said:

Oh my hernia. falloff



It's not even 5 o'clock here, I'm not done workin', but this thread makes me want to pour a drink. The nonsense being spewed in some of these posts lol lol lol martini


It's one a.m. here and I'm on to my second guinness and loving what this thread has turned in to popcorn lol
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Reply #110 posted 09/09/09 1:08pm

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Can somebody (Mods?) please lock this nonsense up already... It's dangerous to keep re-hashing nonsensical medical theory.

We've all had our turn now, there are those that believe in the safety of vaccinations and those who obviously need them...

I have two kids, 6 & 3, all vaccinated, all in perfect health. I'm vaccinated, feel great too!

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Reply #111 posted 09/09/09 1:20pm

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My daughter has had all the obligatory vaccines, yet her paediatrician had told me (13 years ago) that in his own opinion not all vaccines are necessary and some of them can be considered harmful since the statistics showed that death rate from the vaccination exceeded the death rate of the actual disease.

There's no way I or my daughter are going to have the vaccine for the new flu though.
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Reply #112 posted 09/09/09 2:04pm

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susanscourt said:

Vendetta1 said:

As a kid, I was not vaccinated. As a mom, I've had all my kids vaccinated. My middle son has autism. Have I thought that vaccines may have. been responsible? Yes. If I could go back and change history? Maybe I would not have had him vaccinated. But it would have been a personal choice. I am never going to tell other parents not to.

I think thats the question, why one childs outcome was autism and not your other children. Maybe instead of trying to ban vaccinations or to enforce vaccinations, they need to find out why it triggers (if in fact it does) in some children and not others. I met someone recently who's child at the age of 4yrs old (he's now 20) developed grade 1 diabetes and they told him they think some vegetables can trigger it, sort of a bacteria, but should we ban vegetables?. They need to find out why? I wonder if the strength of the vaccination is too much for some children. I know some medications even headache tablets effect me, my body can't take it, so unless absolute necessary I don't. Having said that, I had my children vaccinated, again I was given the reports and it was my choice. Anyway, my love to you..

GREAT POST. clapping

It's not impossible that some vaccines can trigger autism spectrum disorders in certain children, and like you said, we need to be seriously looking into why they do if that's the case. But a blanket ban on vaccines or avoidance of them by parents makes no sense.



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Reply #113 posted 09/09/09 2:07pm

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what's the background of the author?

what's the cite for the article?


vaccine away. or not. it's your choice. live or die. shrug
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Reply #114 posted 09/09/09 2:27pm

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The lack of respect and abundance of arrogance on this thread makes me want to vomit. confused
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Reply #115 posted 09/09/09 3:28pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

The lack of respect and abundance of arrogance on this thread makes me want to vomit. confused

It's hard to respect junk science.
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Reply #116 posted 09/09/09 4:09pm

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Ottensen said:




It's not even 5 o'clock here, I'm not done workin', but this thread makes me want to pour a drink. The nonsense being spewed in some of these posts lol lol lol martini


It's one a.m. here and I'm on to my second guinness and loving what this thread has turned in to popcorn lol


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Reply #117 posted 09/09/09 4:21pm

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meow85 said:

GetAwayFromMe said:

The lack of respect and abundance of arrogance on this thread makes me want to vomit. confused

It's hard to respect junk science.


OH, I'm talking about the personal insults thrown at others. Crazy calling crazy crazy. neutral
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Reply #118 posted 09/09/09 4:51pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

meow85 said:


It's hard to respect junk science.


OH, I'm talking about the personal insults thrown at others. Crazy calling crazy crazy. neutral



you're talking crazy rolleyes


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Reply #119 posted 09/09/09 5:32pm

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GetAwayFromMe said:

meow85 said:


It's hard to respect junk science.


OH, I'm talking about the personal insults thrown at others. Crazy calling crazy crazy. neutral


Oh, go cry about a clique.
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