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Reply #150 posted 06/11/09 5:03pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

ehuffnsd said:


no he's talking about our founding fathers all wearing white wigs.



okay, so how does that impact Chastity Bono? falloff this thread is all over the place. I want my money!!!

pointing out the change in acceptable gender behavior.
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Reply #151 posted 06/11/09 5:04pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SCNDLS said:


Damn them girls IS rough! shake

Gotta make sure none of my mens are downlows from Oakland lol

is oakland the name you gave her on I love Supa?
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Reply #152 posted 06/11/09 5:07pm

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SCNDLS said:

DesireeNevermind said:




you won't kick my ass...you will beg me to introduce you to my brothers and cousins who are FOINE! falloff And you will have to pay me for the contact cuz I fancy myself a matchmaker/pimp. mr.green


And yes there are instances where transtion is unhealthy which is why some people transition back. Other people have been known to start the surgery but not go through with it. there are a multitude of reasons why someone would undergo it and I think when you have had and are possibly still dealing with emotional and psych issues the last thing you need to be doing is something as serious to your physical health as this kind of surgery. Only time will tell. But in the mean time...it still sounds mental TO ME.

Makes sense to me.

Okay, so how 'bout I'ma kick ya ass if you DON'T introduce me to your foine brothers and cousins???? After I get the hook up tho, I'll be sure to break you off. nod pimp2




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Reply #153 posted 06/11/09 5:09pm

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Desire2006 said:

This world is getting sicker and sicker!!!! Why cant people be content with who and what they are since birth????shocked shockednod nod

So...
Conjoined twins shouldn't be separated.
If you're missing a limb, tough shit, you shouldn't use a prosthetic.
Transplants shouldn't occur.

Right?
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Reply #154 posted 06/11/09 5:14pm

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ehuffnsd said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


Gotta make sure none of my mens are downlows from Oakland lol

is oakland the name you gave her on I love Supa?

it's the name i gave her just now lol
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Reply #155 posted 06/11/09 5:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

ehuffnsd said:


is oakland the name you gave her on I love Supa?

it's the name i gave her just now lol

So now I'm like Oaktown 357 johnwoo
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Reply #156 posted 06/11/09 5:16pm

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SCNDLS said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


it's the name i gave her just now lol

So now I'm like Oaktown 357 johnwoo

Oakland 666! nod giggle
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Reply #157 posted 06/11/09 5:16pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SCNDLS said:


So now I'm like Oaktown 357 johnwoo

Oakland 666! nod giggle

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Reply #158 posted 06/11/09 5:35pm

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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

DesireeNevermind said:




It may not EQUAL it but you would not have gender without the biological meaning first and therefore Gender is real as I stated above and it is associated in most circles and defined by most people as either male or female. Gay doesn't equal homosexual but we have come to define it as such.

what about hermaphrodites? Physicality is not the whole story.

quite a large percentage of births are hermaphrodites where the parents have to choose which genitals will be removed...and how they will raise the the child. By a large percentage, I mean between between 3-5% which is higher than I thought..
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Reply #159 posted 06/11/09 5:49pm

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bluesbaby said:

quite a large percentage of births are hermaphrodites where the parents have to choose which genitals will be removed...and how they will raise the the child. By a large percentage, I mean between between 3-5% which is higher than I thought..

Do you live near a nuclear plant? eek
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Reply #160 posted 06/11/09 6:11pm

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ehuffnsd said:

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Then these people need VERY SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP!!!!!nod nod

that's what they get.

you need therapy for a year and signing off of two professionals before you start the transition


actually you really don't need that unless your are going to somebody reputable here in the states. there are alot of TG folk in NY and HI who never had to see a shrink or do therapy cuz they went to Mexico or had a doctor from another country but living in the states perform the surgery for cheap (as in 10 grand versus the usual 45 grand).

Granted the finished product doesn't look so good but hey, if you don't have the money or the time and you want instant gratification and alleviation then you do what you can with what you've got.
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Reply #161 posted 06/11/09 6:18pm

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bluesbaby said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


what about hermaphrodites? Physicality is not the whole story.

quite a large percentage of births are hermaphrodites where the parents have to choose which genitals will be removed...and how they will raise the the child. By a large percentage, I mean between between 3-5% which is higher than I thought..



True Hermaphrodite chimera (fully developed sex organs for both male and female ) although rare, supposedly occurs when the parents are related to each other. There are lesser degrees resulting from slight chromosonal abnormalities in which one of the organs is not fully developed- usually the male organ. For some reason many doctors want or are trained to make these babies girls but a lot of the time they really are males with very small penises.
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Reply #162 posted 06/11/09 6:59pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

bluesbaby said:


quite a large percentage of births are hermaphrodites where the parents have to choose which genitals will be removed...and how they will raise the the child. By a large percentage, I mean between between 3-5% which is higher than I thought..



True Hermaphrodite chimera (fully developed sex organs for both male and female ) although rare, supposedly occurs when the parents are related to each other. There are lesser degrees resulting from slight chromosonal abnormalities in which one of the organs is not fully developed- usually the male organ. For some reason many doctors want or are trained to make these babies girls but a lot of the time they really are males with very small penises.


I watched a documentary on this. It was very interesting. One theory is that the hermaphrodite was actually supposed to be male/female fraternal twins. And the one person has two sets of DNA in different parts of their body. Very fascinating stuff.
Shake it til ya make it dancing jig
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Reply #163 posted 06/11/09 7:08pm

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JuliePurplehead said:

DesireeNevermind said:




True Hermaphrodite chimera (fully developed sex organs for both male and female ) although rare, supposedly occurs when the parents are related to each other. There are lesser degrees resulting from slight chromosonal abnormalities in which one of the organs is not fully developed- usually the male organ. For some reason many doctors want or are trained to make these babies girls but a lot of the time they really are males with very small penises.


I watched a documentary on this. It was very interesting. One theory is that the hermaphrodite was actually supposed to be male/female fraternal twins. And the one person has two sets of DNA in different parts of their body. Very fascinating stuff.



that reminds me of this learning channel medical mystery special where this chick got accused of welfare fraud cuz the state said her baby wasn't her baby and it turned out she had this rare condition of having two sets of DNA. her baby inherited one set. it was some fascinating twilight zone shit to say the least. she almost lost her baby over that mess.

okay back to the trannygenderchastitywehatedesireenevermindlockdance thread. popcorn
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Reply #164 posted 06/11/09 7:10pm

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Chastity Bono, who most Americans remember as the little girl who said goodnight at the end of The Sonny and Cher Comedy Hour, is becoming a man.

The gay rights activist and writer began the female-to-male transtitioning process earlier this year, according to The New York Daily News.

Bono's publicist says Chastity has changed his name to Chaz:

"Yes, it's true -- Chaz, after many years of consideration, has made the courageous decision to honor his true identity. He is proud of his decision and grateful for the support and respect that has already been shown by his loved ones. It is Chaz's hope that his choice to transition will open the hearts and minds of the public regarding this issue, just as his 'coming out' did nearly 20 years ago."

Bono works for the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) and is a writer-at-large for the nation's oldest gay magazine, The Advocate. He worked for the Human Rights Campaign (HRC) to lobby Congress against the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) in the 1990's.

Bono wrote two books, Family Outing and The End of Innocence. He appeared on VH1's Celebrity Fit Club 3 and the Logo channel's Big Gay Sketch Show with Rosie O'Donnell.

Bono apparently made the decision to transition shortly after his 40th birthday this year. His mother, Cher, has not made any public comments about Chaz's decision.

http://www.examiner.com/e...-to-a-male
good for him!! woot!
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Reply #165 posted 06/11/09 7:12pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

JuliePurplehead said:



I watched a documentary on this. It was very interesting. One theory is that the hermaphrodite was actually supposed to be male/female fraternal twins. And the one person has two sets of DNA in different parts of their body. Very fascinating stuff.



that reminds me of this learning channel medical mystery special where this chick got accused of welfare fraud cuz the state said her baby wasn't her baby and it turned out she had this rare condition of having two sets of DNA. her baby inherited one set. it was some fascinating twilight zone shit to say the least. she almost lost her baby over that mess.

okay back to the trannygenderchastitywehatedesireenevermindlockdance thread. popcorn

nod I remember something similar on Discovery about the multiple DNA thing.
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Reply #166 posted 06/11/09 7:13pm

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Desire2006 said:

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:


It's not the way you were born exclaim


Explain more!!!! If I stayed the way I was born, then for a start, I wouldnt b able 2 type this, would I???? lol lol lol lol But, as time moves on, so do we move on and GROW and things like our hair grows and then our face alters, so hence, we need or choose 2 do things with them like change our hairstyles and wear make-up!!!!! But 2 actually change our sex and certain physical parts is totally outrageous to me!!!

I would like 2 tell every transgendered person or even people who are thinking of changing their sex 2 take a look in the mirror and tell me what gender they are and when they give me the answer I would then ask them, "well why arent u content with yourself as that person?????
Prince wears high heels, women's clothing and high heels. Get over yourself.
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Reply #167 posted 06/11/09 7:14pm

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Vendetta1 said:

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Explain more!!!! If I stayed the way I was born, then for a start, I wouldnt b able 2 type this, would I???? lol lol lol lol But, as time moves on, so do we move on and GROW and things like our hair grows and then our face alters, so hence, we need or choose 2 do things with them like change our hairstyles and wear make-up!!!!! But 2 actually change our sex and certain physical parts is totally outrageous to me!!!

I would like 2 tell every transgendered person or even people who are thinking of changing their sex 2 take a look in the mirror and tell me what gender they are and when they give me the answer I would then ask them, "well why arent u content with yourself as that person?????
Prince wears high heels, women's clothing and high heels. Get over yourself.

and makeup
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Reply #168 posted 06/11/09 7:17pm

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Prince is transgendered? faint dayum I was just getting used to the fancy lesbian thing.
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Reply #169 posted 06/11/09 7:18pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Prince is transgendered? faint dayum I was just getting used to the fancy lesbian thing.

genderqueer or genderfuck is part of the transgender continuum
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Reply #170 posted 06/11/09 7:19pm

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Contributions to the LGBT community or not, I still say she has psychological issues that won't be addressed with surgery. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it and I DARE to have an opinion cuz this aint IRAN or AFGHANISTAN! You want to attack me for it? Go ahead. Says more about you than me.



well, based on my own worldview, i think your point of view suggests that you have serious psychological issues. based on your rationale, you shouldn't mind me saying that, right?

now gimme some love, you intolerant, judgmental mental case, you. hug
Give me a hug, you fucked up gay. hug
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Reply #171 posted 06/11/09 7:24pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

SCNDLS said:


So, are you saying that this would make more sense to you if she had done this earlier in her life? hmmm



Not only that, but if she didn't have issues with Cher as a mother, drugs, eating disorders all while being a counselor, activist and role model then yes it would make more sense to me - TO ME- not every freakin person on the planet. Something does not compute. Plus, it is actually possible to have some psych issues and mask them. But oh noooo, not on this thread.

BTW thanks for bothering to ask me a question about my opinion and posts. Shit, I feel like its after school and I'm on my way home about to fight the ghetto girl gang all cuz I got on the latest pair of guess jeans and my hair looks cute.
Unfucking believable. disbelief
You're calling someone in the LGBT "mental" and don't see why any of us have a problem with that?

feel free to say whatever the hell you want. just don't act surprised or feel picked on OR whatever when folks disagree with you.
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Reply #172 posted 06/11/09 7:24pm

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Anxiety said:

DesireeNevermind said:



Contributions to the LGBT community or not, I still say she has psychological issues that won't be addressed with surgery. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it and I DARE to have an opinion cuz this aint IRAN or AFGHANISTAN! You want to attack me for it? Go ahead. Says more about you than me.



well, based on my own worldview, i think your point of view suggests that you have serious psychological issues. based on your rationale, you shouldn't mind me saying that, right?

now gimme some love, you intolerant, judgmental mental case, you. hug



rolleyes Oh alright here's some heart ...but brace yourself...my love comes with a kick in the caboose!!!
hug
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Reply #173 posted 06/11/09 7:29pm

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ehuffnsd said:

Vendetta1 said:

Prince wears high heels, women's clothing and high heels. Get over yourself.

and makeup

and funk girdles
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Reply #174 posted 06/11/09 7:31pm

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Desire2006 said:

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I hope you have never cut your hair and don't wear makeup and never grew older than a fetus exclaim assuming you're a chick lol


I do go 2 a hair stylist and I do wear make-up and I am growing older everyday, but AT LEAST I HAVE STAYED A FEMALE ALL MY LIFE AND WILL CONTINUE 2 DO SO BECAUSE THATS WHAT GOD INTENDED ME 2 B!!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
[Edited 6/11/09 14:08pm]


Go back to complaining about the UK, this isn't working for you yawn
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Reply #175 posted 06/11/09 7:32pm

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BSK3478 said:

ehuffnsd said:


and makeup

and funk girdles
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Reply #176 posted 06/11/09 7:33pm

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heybaby said:

Desire2006 said:



I do go 2 a hair stylist and I do wear make-up and I am growing older everyday, but AT LEAST I HAVE STAYED A FEMALE ALL MY LIFE AND WILL CONTINUE 2 DO SO BECAUSE THATS WHAT GOD INTENDED ME 2 B!!!!! biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin
[Edited 6/11/09 14:08pm]


Go back to complaining about the UK, this isn't working for you yawn
I think people get amnesia about the other shit they post here. lol
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Reply #177 posted 06/11/09 7:35pm

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Go back to complaining about the UK, this isn't working for you yawn
I think people get amnesia about the other shit they post here. lol

its really sad lol
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Reply #178 posted 06/11/09 7:36pm

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BSK3478 said:

ehuffnsd said:


and makeup

and funk girdles


if we're going to go in that direction, then let's not forget the glittery purple hooded capes reserved for formal gala and award events (and the matching lace opera gloves, naturally).
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Reply #179 posted 06/11/09 7:38pm

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Anxiety said:

BSK3478 said:


and funk girdles


if we're going to go in that direction, then let's not forget the glittery purple hooded capes reserved for formal gala and award events (and the matching lace opera gloves, naturally).
And let us not forget about the other person Prince has living in him.
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