SCNDLS said:

Hell No. She comes from royalty! Charles would have been better

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Come on you can do better than that. How 'bout we have a contest to rename Chaz? I'm serious this name cannot be allowed.

Desire2006 said:

like i said be thankful you've never had to experience.


have you met someone who has wanted to die because they feel they are born woman but look like a man?


have you met someone you slashes their breast because they feel they should be a man?

i have. it hurts me to talk to these people.

SCNDLS said:

I really agree with you. I detest that name. Sorry to any orgers named chaz, I hate it

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

SCNDLS said:

Chaz's father's birth name was Salvatore Phillip. Depending on the state of their relationship when he died, taking either of those names could be a great honor or (I hope not) a slap in the face.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Explain more!!!! If I stayed the way I was born, then for a start, I wouldnt b able 2 type this, would I???? But, as time moves on, so do we move on and GROW and things like our hair grows and then our face alters, so hence, we need or choose 2 do things with them like change our hairstyles and wear make-up!!!!! But 2 actually change our sex and certain physical parts is totally outrageous to me!!!

I would like 2 tell every transgendered person or even people who are thinking of changing their sex 2 take a look in the mirror and tell me what gender they are and when they give me the answer I would then ask them, "well why arent u content with yourself as that person?????

Lammastide said:

I agree, she should be Sonny Bono, Jr. Plus anything that reminds me of Ferragamo is always a good thing.

ehuffnsd said:

Then these people need VERY SERIOUS PSYCHOLOGICAL HELP!!!!!

I'm not the least bit surprised.
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Desire2006 said:

that's what they get.

you need therapy for a year and signing off of two professionals before you start the transition

Desire2006 said:

it's not your place to decide what gender each person is.

Desire2006 said:

Actually, in the US, they have to get YEARS of psychiatric counseling BEFORE a sex change is approved. No one does this lightly. So, what's your point.

SCNDLS said:

They need serious psycho help 2 come 2 terms with who they are as people and help in accepting and loving themselves for who they are!!!!

I am 1,000,000% extremely happy 2 b a female!!! If i was a man then I wouldnt b able 2 have make-up sessions in Macys, wear gorgeous perfumes and make-up, wear beautiful clothes and shoes and bags, and a million other things that women love 2 do and only women can!!!!!

Desire2006 said:

and that is you, and be happy that it is you.

however there people that don't feel that way. that can't ever feel that way.

these people don't come to the choice lightly. allow everyone to be who they are.

Desire2006 said:

yeah because men can't do that at all if that makes you happy to be female maybe you should find some deeper reasons because i'm willing to bet Chaz' reasons for this are deeper than those material reasons.
[Edited 6/11/09 14:50pm]

Desire2006 said:

That's what YOU think. Others think differently. So how does her very personal decision to be who she really believes she is impact you or anyone else?

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I like your wording of this though I might change it to:

"I hope her mom accepts him and that he finds the peace she's looking for"

Desire2006 said:

Desire, you're making this too easy for us...

Are you telling us RuPaul doesn't do EVERY ONE of these things? And RuPaul isn't EVEN transgender!

SCNDLS said:

Hell YEAH!

Chazz Palminteri. That's my boy right there!

Desire2006 said:

Okay, so...imagine that, feeling as you do, someone forced you to become a man. Held you down and injected you with testosterone so coarse hair grew on your face and body. Forced you to have your breasts removed and your genitals altered. Made you live as a man. For the rest of your life. No recourse.

If all that happened, against your will, what would you be? Would you be a man? Or would you still be a woman? A miserable woman trapped in a man's body. Against your will. Without a choice.

That is how a transgendered person feels.

Lammastide said:

RuPaul, or whatever HIS name is, should STAY as a male and DRESS like a MAN!!!!! I detest her, him or IT!!!!!

Desire2006 said:

this comment is pure ignorance. and i'm not trying to pick on you, desire, because we're all ignorant until we learn.

but you better learn. cuz that comment was ignorant.

Desire2006 said:

HOLD UP!!!! yes that is HIS name. you can ask his momma. And i'll have you know he's very much a man. Clothes are an invention and have changed over time. nobody's born into any gender typical clothing. we all just wear what we feel. (if we're lucky).

BTW how many jeans do you have?
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Desire2006 said:

Genesia said:

this is a good point about the mind set, the problem I have is that surgery doesn't really change a person's sex. It's a fairly superficial solution for such a deep issue. Maybe hormones address deeper change, but changing the appearance of genitals doesn't change their procreative function

But anyway, if I have issues with it it's not really my concern. People should do what they want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else.

Desire2006 said:

Lawd . . . such nastiness.

NDRU said:

Don't think of it as changing their sex. Think of it as reconciling the outside and the inside.

Desire2006 said:

Not that "he" or "she" or "it" cares, but you wanna answer my question? Can you?