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Reply #90 posted 08/01/08 11:37am

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eikonoklastes said:

emm said:


quite mentally unstable i am sure. doesn't look like a monster. he just looks so pathetic.


What makes you think he's unstable?

perhaps because he whipped out a knife and stabbed a stranger? and then removed the poor fuck's head? not exactly the epitome of rationality.
he just stared at his feet in court. described as being disconnected by the media. it will be interesting to hear his story. i'm just guessing that he won't be found fit to stand trial. but that remains to be seen of course.
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Reply #91 posted 08/01/08 11:41am

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Idiot better be glad i was not on that bus. In these situations instead of being the chasee and scared, you become the aggressor . I would have gotten an weapon and attacked him with my taekwando!! I feel so sorry for that boy and we only 3 yrs of age apart!!
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Reply #92 posted 08/01/08 11:47am

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emm said:

eikonoklastes said:



What makes you think he's unstable?

perhaps because he whipped out a knife and stabbed a stranger? and then removed the poor fuck's head? not exactly the epitome of rationality.


Hmm, interesting.
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Reply #93 posted 08/01/08 12:51pm

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eikonoklastes said:

emm said:


perhaps because he whipped out a knife and stabbed a stranger? and then removed the poor fuck's head? not exactly the epitome of rationality.


Hmm, interesting.


Maybe it was 'roids rage, eh?
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Reply #94 posted 08/01/08 2:22pm

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AnckSuNamun said:

TheResistor said:



ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Taking it lightly is exactly what you did. Posts like this make my skin crawl. Where was your all powerful god when all this was happening? Playing favorites? Watching over you and your Greyhound bus? Couldn't he oversee all Greyhound bus schedules and protect them all? Oh right, he couldn't because he doesn't EXIST!!!

Shit like this is disrespectful to the victim and everyone who had to experience this nightmare!

Um, why attack her for her belief in God? I think her intentions were good in her post.

Mightn't it be the implication that God was looking out for her on her Greyhoudn trip, but obviously not this poor guy?
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Reply #95 posted 08/01/08 2:32pm

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Reply #96 posted 08/01/08 2:34pm

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meow85 said:

AnckSuNamun said:


Um, why attack her for her belief in God? I think her intentions were good in her post.

Mightn't it be the implication that God was looking out for her on her Greyhoudn trip, but obviously not this poor guy?


Yeah, that shit makes me a bit uncomfortable sometimes. I think TheResistor hit it on the head when he used the word arrogant.
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Reply #97 posted 08/01/08 2:38pm

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meow85 said:


Mightn't it be the implication that God was looking out for her on her Greyhoudn trip, but obviously not this poor guy?


Yeah, that shit makes me a bit uncomfortable sometimes. I think TheResistor hit it on the head when he used the word arrogant.


well, maybe the guy was an atheist. ya gotta believe, right? shrug
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Reply #98 posted 08/01/08 2:41pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:

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Yeah, that shit makes me a bit uncomfortable sometimes. I think TheResistor hit it on the head when he used the word arrogant.


well, maybe the guy was an atheist. ya gotta believe, right? shrug


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Reply #99 posted 08/01/08 2:44pm

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magnificentsynthesizer said:



well, maybe the guy was an atheist. ya gotta believe, right? shrug


I believe that when it rains, angels are peeing on my head.


isn't that what they call Holy Water?
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Reply #100 posted 08/01/08 2:59pm

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Reply #101 posted 08/01/08 4:30pm

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The things I'm reading on this thread with people making fun of people who believe in God is more than offensive. God forbid if a Christian here would speak against Gays for there lifestyle. But, true colors show themselves & from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. So, peace to you all. Your free to your beliefs. But these comments against those who believe in blessings seems to be a bit much...
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Reply #102 posted 08/01/08 4:30pm

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Ok, do people really think that riding the bus is suddenly not safe now?



no, not suddenly. Ive never thought of the bus as safe.
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Reply #103 posted 08/01/08 4:51pm

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Bishop31 said:

The things I'm reading on this thread with people making fun of people who believe in God is more than offensive. God forbid if a Christian here would speak against Gays for there lifestyle. But, true colors show themselves & from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. So, peace to you all. Your free to your beliefs. But these comments against those who believe in blessings seems to be a bit much...


This post makes no sense.

And I believe in God.
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Reply #104 posted 08/01/08 4:57pm

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TheMistress said:

magnificentsynthesizer said:



well, maybe the guy was an atheist. ya gotta believe, right? shrug


I believe that when it rains, angels are peeing on my head.


Really?? And u believe in God. I see.
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Reply #105 posted 08/01/08 5:03pm

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Bishop31 said:

TheMistress said:



I believe that when it rains, angels are peeing on my head.


Really?? And u believe in God. I see.


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Reply #106 posted 08/01/08 5:11pm

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Bishop31 said:

The things I'm reading on this thread with people making fun of people who believe in God is more than offensive. God forbid if a Christian here would speak against Gays for there lifestyle. But, true colors show themselves & from the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks. So, peace to you all. Your free to your beliefs. But these comments against those who believe in blessings seems to be a bit much...

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Reply #107 posted 08/01/08 5:12pm

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Reply #108 posted 08/01/08 8:02pm

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this is one sick story. i was highly disturbed when I read it. it's crazy to think somebody would do that to another stranger for no reason at all. what i'm most upset about is, why are they just charging the psycho with second degree murder??? isn't this vicious crime considered first degree???!!! What is going on here?
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Reply #109 posted 08/01/08 10:00pm

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At first I thought the person was decapitated in an accident, but this is more disturbing.
Were it not for the 'brave behaviour' of the passengers and driver, I think this could have been much worse.


Are you kidding me? How could it have been worse? A very young person was killed, beheaded and gutted and you say it could have been worse? The other passengers were not brave, they friggin ran!!!! If there was a breath left in that boy, they wouldn't have noticed as they turned their backs to run. Were there no men with balls on the bus? They let that nut have his way, even to the point of giving him privacy with his victim!!! At least mace the bastard and stop his private butchering party. If that crap had happened in my neck of the woods he would have been knocked unconscious after the first stab or two.
Anyway, these people likely are suffering more psychologically because they ran and the guilt is what will keep them awake at night. This group running out and leaving dude on the bus with his victim is cowardice. I dont give a hoot how they spin the story, if there was a group of able bodied bodied passengers, I consider their reaction inhumane. WTF!!! (I will leave exceptions in the event that all of the passengers had to look after children or if they were elderly or disabled), however if you did that shit in front of me and my kids, I would be worried that my kids would be next, so I'd take your ass down.
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Reply #110 posted 08/02/08 5:30am

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StillGotIt said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

At first I thought the person was decapitated in an accident, but this is more disturbing.
Were it not for the 'brave behaviour' of the passengers and driver, I think this could have been much worse.


Are you kidding me? How could it have been worse? A very young person was killed, beheaded and gutted and you say it could have been worse? The other passengers were not brave, they friggin ran!!!! If there was a breath left in that boy, they wouldn't have noticed as they turned their backs to run. Were there no men with balls on the bus? They let that nut have his way, even to the point of giving him privacy with his victim!!! At least mace the bastard and stop his private butchering party. If that crap had happened in my neck of the woods he would have been knocked unconscious after the first stab or two.
Anyway, these people likely are suffering more psychologically because they ran and the guilt is what will keep them awake at night. This group running out and leaving dude on the bus with his victim is cowardice. I dont give a hoot how they spin the story, if there was a group of able bodied bodied passengers, I consider their reaction inhumane. WTF!!! (I will leave exceptions in the event that all of the passengers had to look after children or if they were elderly or disabled), however if you did that shit in front of me and my kids, I would be worried that my kids would be next, so *I'd take your ass down.
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This was so horrific but, it could have been worse if he attacked and killed others as well.

Yeah I agree that if I were there, I might have done something.
When I first read this, the first reaction in my mind while the visual of the scene played in my mind was to
find an object that could be used as a defense, and knock the attacker unconscious.
In a situation like this, where someone's trying to take the life of another, it's either the innocent one or the wicked one.


You do realize that I was actually just quoting that line from the article?


*btw, that wasn't me in the article, so you're wasting your agression for something that I wasn't involved in.



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Reply #111 posted 08/02/08 6:16am

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missfee said:

this is one sick story. i was highly disturbed when I read it. it's crazy to think somebody would do that to another stranger for no reason at all. what i'm most upset about is, why are they just charging the psycho with second degree murder??? isn't this vicious crime considered first degree???!!! What is going on here?



From my understanding, the 2nd-degree murder charge is being thought to have been used because proving in a court of law the intent and premeditation of this random crime could prove a difficult task for the prosecution, as these two men were absolute strangers to one another with no history whatsoever; theoretically, there may be random factors which could have come into play that could have suddenly have set off something in Li's brain, causing him to go into the deranged state he clearly was in when he committed this horrific murder.

It's also my understanding that a second-degree murder charge under Canadian law has a range of parole stipulations and so that, ultimately, the final sentence for Li may not be much different than were he charged with 1st degree murder.
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Reply #112 posted 08/02/08 6:47am

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There aren't any words to describe how awful this is. I'm stunned.
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Reply #113 posted 08/02/08 6:48am

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StillGotIt said:

wildgoldenhoney said:

At first I thought the person was decapitated in an accident, but this is more disturbing.
Were it not for the 'brave behaviour' of the passengers and driver, I think this could have been much worse.


Are you kidding me? How could it have been worse? A very young person was killed, beheaded and gutted and you say it could have been worse? The other passengers were not brave, they friggin ran!!!! If there was a breath left in that boy, they wouldn't have noticed as they turned their backs to run. Were there no men with balls on the bus? They let that nut have his way, even to the point of giving him privacy with his victim!!! At least mace the bastard and stop his private butchering party. If that crap had happened in my neck of the woods he would have been knocked unconscious after the first stab or two.
Anyway, these people likely are suffering more psychologically because they ran and the guilt is what will keep them awake at night. This group running out and leaving dude on the bus with his victim is cowardice. I dont give a hoot how they spin the story, if there was a group of able bodied bodied passengers, I consider their reaction inhumane. WTF!!! (I will leave exceptions in the event that all of the passengers had to look after children or if they were elderly or disabled), however if you did that shit in front of me and my kids, I would be worried that my kids would be next, so I'd take your ass down.
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I understand your emotion and passion about this situation and applaud your bravado, but I think you're being rather harsh and unfair in calling the other passengers "cowards" because of their reaction/s. You must realize that being an armchair speculator after the fact vs. actually being there while such carnage is happening and seeing the spurting gore and unimaginable violence firsthand, are two wildly incomparable scenarios. It's not really possible to predict how you would have reacted were you there; you are writing your indignant opinion from the safety and comfort of your home or office, able to utilize logic and better judgement than were the passengers who suddenly, out of the clear blue, were awakened to or became aware of the horrible murder that happened so suddenly on that bus.

Many people were asleep, were listening to a movie or to music on headphones, or were otherwise occupied when, with no forewarning whatsoever, they heard a terrible scream and turned around to see that young man being violently butchered. Seeing such an unexpected atrocity - especially if just jarred awake from sleep - would understandably throw the human mind into a disconnect, with the first instinct being to flee.

Perhaps some of the passengers will wonder if there was something they might've done to help or to have saved that young victim's life, and will feel guilt -- but the reality is that this incident occured so quickly and in such close quarters and was of such a bizarre, extreme nature that there really was little that could have been done to help that young man at the point where people realized with any clarity what was going on.
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Reply #114 posted 08/02/08 8:03am

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This is something out of a horror movie man. That fucker is crazy.

I don't think I would have been on a bus without me little friend. Especially knowing that strange people travel on buses, man.

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Reply #115 posted 08/02/08 8:29am

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This is something out of a horror movie man. That fucker is crazy.

I don't think I would have been on a bus without me little friend. Especially knowing that strange people travel on buses, man.

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Reply #116 posted 08/02/08 8:38am

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AlienX2050 said:

This is something out of a horror movie man. That fucker is crazy.

I don't think I would have been on a bus without me little friend. Especially knowing that strange people travel on buses, man.

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I usually don't care for gun violence, but this is one of those situations were a gun shoulda came into play.

It angers me that the this sicko had his "fun" with the victim... he should have been killed on site, seems to me that he would have killed anyone next to him, sort of like a serial killer looking for a victim. He might of killed before.

My heart goes out to the family of that young man who was so brutally murdered, sad that some laughed at the news of the loss of this young man's life.

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Reply #117 posted 08/02/08 3:17pm

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WillyWonka said:

StillGotIt said:



Are you kidding me? How could it have been worse? A very young person was killed, beheaded and gutted and you say it could have been worse? The other passengers were not brave, they friggin ran!!!! If there was a breath left in that boy, they wouldn't have noticed as they turned their backs to run. Were there no men with balls on the bus? They let that nut have his way, even to the point of giving him privacy with his victim!!! At least mace the bastard and stop his private butchering party. If that crap had happened in my neck of the woods he would have been knocked unconscious after the first stab or two.
Anyway, these people likely are suffering more psychologically because they ran and the guilt is what will keep them awake at night. This group running out and leaving dude on the bus with his victim is cowardice. I dont give a hoot how they spin the story, if there was a group of able bodied bodied passengers, I consider their reaction inhumane. WTF!!! (I will leave exceptions in the event that all of the passengers had to look after children or if they were elderly or disabled), however if you did that shit in front of me and my kids, I would be worried that my kids would be next, so I'd take your ass down.
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I understand your emotion and passion about this situation and applaud your bravado, but I think you're being rather harsh and unfair in calling the other passengers "cowards" because of their reaction/s. You must realize that being an armchair speculator after the fact vs. actually being there while such carnage is happening and seeing the spurting gore and unimaginable violence firsthand, are two wildly incomparable scenarios. It's not really possible to predict how you would have reacted were you there; you are writing your indignant opinion from the safety and comfort of your home or office, able to utilize logic and better judgement than were the passengers who suddenly, out of the clear blue, were awakened to or became aware of the horrible murder that happened so suddenly on that bus.

Many people were asleep, were listening to a movie or to music on headphones, or were otherwise occupied when, with no forewarning whatsoever, they heard a terrible scream and turned around to see that young man being violently butchered. Seeing such an unexpected atrocity - especially if just jarred awake from sleep - would understandably throw the human mind into a disconnect, with the first instinct being to flee.

Perhaps some of the passengers will wonder if there was something they might've done to help or to have saved that young victim's life, and will feel guilt -- but the reality is that this incident occured so quickly and in such close quarters and was of such a bizarre, extreme nature that there really was little that could have been done to help that young man at the point where people realized with any clarity what was going on.


The passengers did everything right.
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Reply #118 posted 08/02/08 3:33pm

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The passengers did everything right.



I agree.
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Reply #119 posted 08/02/08 3:37pm

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the victim's family didn't know until 10 1/2 hours after this thread was started. how messed up is that? sad
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