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Reply #30 posted 04/26/08 8:48pm

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One of the ways in which diet sodas can make a person at is that, for some people, aspartame (and other artificial sweeteners, for that matter) causes an insulin spike. In other words, even though it technically has no calories, your body thinks it's just had a big hit of sugar and reacts accordingly.
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Reply #31 posted 04/26/08 9:34pm

Cinnie

ZombieKitten said:

Aspartame: inhibits seratonin


WHAT! omfg

Oh I am not enduring another moment of mild depression for a sip of diet soda or Dentyne Ice sugarless gum. hmph!
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Reply #32 posted 04/26/08 10:23pm

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ZombieKitten said:

Aspartame: inhibits seratonin


WHAT! omfg

Oh I am not enduring another moment of mild depression for a sip of diet soda or Dentyne Ice sugarless gum. hmph!


yeah, good idea confused
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Reply #33 posted 04/27/08 5:08am

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Everyone I know that drinks diet sodas complain about always being hungry and thirsty.


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Having a diet soda still sends the "sweet" signal to your brain which then prepares your body to consume a bunch of calories. When your body does not receive the calories, you'll find yourself consuming perhaps even MORE food later.

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Funny thing is my cousin (fitness guru) told me this and then one week later a study was published.... maybe I can find the link... a study done on rats where the ones that had diet soda actually gained more weight in a week than the rats having normal soda.
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Reply #34 posted 04/27/08 5:14am

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Cinnie said:

shanti0608 said:

Everyone I know that drinks diet sodas complain about always being hungry and thirsty.


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Having a diet soda still sends the "sweet" signal to your brain which then prepares your body to consume a bunch of calories. When your body does not receive the calories, you'll find yourself consuming perhaps even MORE food later.

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Funny thing is my cousin (fitness guru) told me this and then one week later a study was published.... maybe I can find the link... a study done on rats where the ones that had diet soda actually gained more weight in a week than the rats having normal soda.



Soda, in general, is absolutely the worst thing you should drink when dieting or anything at all.

It astounds me that people, as afore mentioned, want to have their cake and eat it too--and still lose weight.

I basic training, my drill instructor told us that by regulation he couldn't force us to eat this or that item, or forbid us to. But he strongly recommended we avoid any soda whatsoever, diet or not, during basic training, if we wanted to physically condition ourselves for the challenges ahead.

Aside from the fact that you're ingesting toxic stew that you have no clue what it's affects will be down the road, your ingesting huge doses of salt.
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Reply #35 posted 04/27/08 5:15am

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maybe I can find the link... a study done on rats where the ones that had diet soda actually gained more weight in a week than the rats having normal soda.


http://blog.wired.com/wir...-coul.html
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Reply #36 posted 04/27/08 5:17am

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Aside from the fact that you're ingesting toxic stew that you have no clue what it's affects will be down the road, your ingesting huge doses of salt.


The nutrition facts on American sodas are much clearer on this. I'm pretty sure I was surprised at the amount of "sodium" in one of those drinks.
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Reply #37 posted 04/27/08 5:21am

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Cinnie said:

maybe I can find the link... a study done on rats where the ones that had diet soda actually gained more weight in a week than the rats having normal soda.


http://blog.wired.com/wir...-coul.html


I guess, to me, PricelessHo, the answer to this... "forget about nutritionists"... is that diet soda can make you consume more food over time to make up for the sweet signal the diet soda sent to your brain. sad
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Reply #38 posted 04/27/08 5:22am

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Genesia said:

One of the ways in which diet sodas can make a person at is that, for some people, aspartame (and other artificial sweeteners, for that matter) causes an insulin spike. In other words, even though it technically has no calories, your body thinks it's just had a big hit of sugar and reacts accordingly.


Truth. I wouldn't say for "some" people.
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Reply #39 posted 04/27/08 5:34am

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Upon ingestion, aspartame breaks down into several residual chemicals, including aspartic acid, phenylalanine, methanol, and further breakdown products including formaldehyde,[14] formic acid, and a diketopiperazine. There is some controversy surrounding the rate of breakdown into these various products and the effects that they have on those that consume aspartame-sweetened foods (from wikipedia)




Also, just because the FDA approves a substance for use doesn't mean that it's 'safe'.


Just look at the shit that we're drinking when it comes to dairy...

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Reply #40 posted 04/27/08 7:41am

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Imago said:

Upon ingestion, aspartame breaks down into several residual chemicals, including aspartic acid, phenylalanine, methanol, and further breakdown products including formaldehyde,[14] formic acid, and a diketopiperazine. There is some controversy surrounding the rate of breakdown into these various products and the effects that they have on those that consume aspartame-sweetened foods (from wikipedia)




Also, just because the FDA approves a substance for use doesn't mean that it's 'safe'.


Just look at the shit that we're drinking when it comes to dairy...


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Reply #41 posted 04/27/08 7:52am

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Reply #42 posted 04/27/08 8:24am

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Cinnie said:

shanti0608 said:

Everyone I know that drinks diet sodas complain about always being hungry and thirsty.


nod

Having a diet soda still sends the "sweet" signal to your brain which then prepares your body to consume a bunch of calories. When your body does not receive the calories, you'll find yourself consuming perhaps even MORE food later.

neutral

Funny thing is my cousin (fitness guru) told me this and then one week later a study was published.... maybe I can find the link... a study done on rats where the ones that had diet soda actually gained more weight in a week than the rats having normal soda.



I believe it. nod
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Reply #43 posted 04/27/08 8:30am

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Cinnie said:

Genesia said:

One of the ways in which diet sodas can make a person at is that, for some people, aspartame (and other artificial sweeteners, for that matter) causes an insulin spike. In other words, even though it technically has no calories, your body thinks it's just had a big hit of sugar and reacts accordingly.


Truth. I wouldn't say for "some" people.


lol

I said "some" because, if I hadn't, someone would have said, "You can't make a blanket statement like that. How do you know it affects everyone the same way? blahblah "
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Reply #44 posted 04/27/08 8:51am

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Imago said:

Upon ingestion, aspartame breaks down into several residual chemicals, including aspartic acid, phenylalanine, methanol, and further breakdown products including formaldehyde,[14] formic acid, and a diketopiperazine. There is some controversy surrounding the rate of breakdown into these various products and the effects that they have on those that consume aspartame-sweetened foods (from wikipedia)




Also, just because the FDA approves a substance for use doesn't mean that it's 'safe'.


Just look at the shit that we're drinking when it comes to dairy...





What a crock of shit. Monsanto has done so many shady things when it comes to pesticides and foods. why would anyone consume or buy anything from the company?
This sounds healthy
http://www.monsanto.com/f...p?WT.svl=2
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Reply #45 posted 04/27/08 9:38am

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ok i'll admit i'm hopelessly addicted to pop.
i used to be able to put away 6-8 cans of coke a day without even thinking about it.... its the bubbles and the 'burn' on the way down that get me, LOVE IT! but then i switched to diet coke because i realize i could be putting away nearly 1000 calories a day just from pop! i lost about 30 lbs over the course of about 3 months or so after i switched, but dont worry, enventually i found them again sad

im straight up addicted to diet coke now, i KNOW that its not good for me. i am going to try to switch over to carbonated water now sigh im sure that is going to take some getting used to....

i cant STAND water, as i told bluesbaby, its like drinking air
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Reply #46 posted 04/27/08 10:17am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

ok i'll admit i'm hopelessly addicted to pop.
i used to be able to put away 6-8 cans of coke a day without even thinking about it.... its the bubbles and the 'burn' on the way down that get me, LOVE IT! but then i switched to diet coke because i realize i could be putting away nearly 1000 calories a day just from pop! i lost about 30 lbs over the course of about 3 months or so after i switched, but dont worry, enventually i found them again sad

im straight up addicted to diet coke now, i KNOW that its not good for me. i am going to try to switch over to carbonated water now sigh im sure that is going to take some getting used to....

i cant STAND water, as i told bluesbaby, its like drinking air



I hate drinking water too. I have to add some fresh lemon or lime and it has to be really cold.
I have known many ppl that got addicted to diet coke.
I think it is something in the artificial sweeteners.

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Reply #47 posted 04/27/08 10:27am

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I like sparkling water too, and I drink that in the afternoon. But I need the caffeine from the diet Coke in the morning. I guess my obit will read: "Death from diet Coke ingestion." shrug
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Reply #48 posted 04/27/08 10:49am

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DevotedPuppy said:

I like sparkling water too, and I drink that in the afternoon. But I need the caffeine from the diet Coke in the morning. I guess my obit will read: "Death from diet Coke ingestion." shrug


Behold! Caffeinated water...

http://www.waterjoe.com/story.html
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Reply #49 posted 04/27/08 10:57am

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WHAT ABOUT TAB?! Is there no TAB love, people? I love this article

http://www.newyorker.com/...lk_mcgrath

Steve Isaacs, a self-described "Tab nut" and former Washington Post editor who teaches at the Columbia Journalism School, has been told by several doctors not to drink it. "I tell them to go to hell," he said recently.
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Reply #50 posted 04/27/08 11:03am

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OMG - Tab still uses saccharin? eek

I am all over that! biggrin
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Reply #51 posted 04/28/08 9:24am

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I'm of the completely non-scientific opinion that everything is OK in moderation. I drink diet soft drinks a few times a week. Why? Because I have to seriously, seriously watch my calorie intake. I gain weight just by looking at food. I drink lots and lots and lots of water. But sometimes I want something with a little flavor, so I grab a diet soda or make a pitcher of crystal light. I drink the caffeine-free ones, though, as I'm super caffeine sensitive.

And caffeine is actually an appetite-suppressant. Caffeine has been a main ingredient in diet pills for a looooong time. Aspartame may be what causes you to feel hungry. Kind of like gum. Your body is getting ready to process calories cause you're consuming something but since there's nothing there to turn into energy, you want more.


moderation sounds good, but I just can see myself eating in moderation.....
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Reply #52 posted 04/28/08 9:32am

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MMmmmmm chemicals drool
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Reply #53 posted 04/28/08 10:09am

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I understand the temptation to guzzle diet drinks cause I know that I drink ALOT everyday and

1. I don't want to drink all my calories

2. Water can get a bit boring after a while

So I started cutting all my drinks with water or unsweetened herbal tea

For example...

Everyday, I made a 64 oz. bottle of diet lemonade, then I make 32 oz. of mint herbal tea. I mix them together, pour it in bottles and let it chill out.
Less artificial sweetner, but more flavor in every serving

Served over ice, it's Heaven in a glass cloud9

also I water down orange juice, and fruit punches so its half the normal amount of sugar too
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