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Thread started 09/06/07 8:49pm

Imago

Beauty and the ORG

You know, I've been avoiding the photowhore threads alot lately, only popping in and out to make an occasional contribution or to fuck around.


But I've noticed that these threads have a certain pattern to them. Is it just me or do we seek reaffirmations of our own looks when we posts these pictures of ourselves?
I mean, I'll be completely honest and say I love hearing folks say drool or sexy or boff to one of my pictures, but honestly, I only believe about 1/3rd of it if even that. Mostly, I feel these are just polite gestures from friends or nice people. Kind of like watching the last few people in a Marathon run through the finish line--they all get cheered on, even if they didn't do well. It's an affirmation that they at least tried .

Alot of photo's are also doctored or done with "myspace angles" for obvioius reasons, so it's not like we're really trying to be "funny" is it? We're looking for these positive affirmations from other orgers, me thinks. Not that this is a bad thing--certainly helping someone's self-esteem is always good.

And let's face it--alot of orgers do fall into generally accepted "norms" for beauty (clear skin, being of a certain weight, etc. etc.). But I just find these photowhore threads get a bit perverse when the obviously better looking folks achieve rock star status on these threads. Or when they become competitions or conduits for popularity. It's at that point that I get rather turned off by them cause there are folks out there feeling a bit alienated by this--and no, I'm not being 'sour grapes' about it, as I will often get these compliments. It's just that at what point does it go from being good natured fun, into something a bit more perverse?

And lawd, when a jankity face gets posted up there and you folks either ignore their post cuase you just can't bring yourself to find the right positive spin on a bad situation, or you flat out lie to them and they continue to post--that's when it becomes downright dangerous.


Anyways, what is your view?

Do you feel these picture threads are good for self-esteem? Not just yours and your friends, but everyones?

I think their good natured fun, but with unintended consequences from time to time.


Personally, I want to be respected for my keen intellect. shrug
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Reply #1 posted 09/06/07 8:52pm

heybaby

Deep Thoughts....
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Reply #2 posted 09/06/07 8:53pm

Imago

heybaby said:

Deep Thoughts....

You know which jankity faces I'm talking about to!
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Reply #3 posted 09/06/07 8:54pm

fhqwhgads

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Reply #4 posted 09/06/07 8:55pm

evenstar3

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Imago said:

Mostly, I feel these are just polite gestures from friends or nice people.


that's what i take comments as. shrug i personally won't tell someone they're hot if i don't think they are, though.

we're all really just a bunch of attention whores. lol
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Reply #5 posted 09/06/07 8:55pm

Imago

fhqwhgads said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/243334

Even on that thread, folks are seeking affirmations to the opposite of the supposed intended declaration. shrug
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Reply #6 posted 09/06/07 8:56pm

ZombieKitten

well I must say I got the biggest compliments I HAVE EVER HAD IN MY LIFE after posting my undies pics biggrin
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Reply #7 posted 09/06/07 8:56pm

Imago

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Reply #8 posted 09/06/07 8:56pm

Cinnie

Imago said:

It's just that at what point does it go from being good natured fun, into something a bit more perverse?


So, who made it to your latest avatar? smile
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Reply #9 posted 09/06/07 8:57pm

JustErin

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Go to bed, Dan.
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Reply #10 posted 09/06/07 8:57pm

Lothan

I'm actually pretty sick of the photowhore threads. They used to be a once and a while thing, now they are all the time.

I used to post pics to get a reaction but now, I am so comfortable in my own skin that it doesn't matter to me what a bunch of strangers think.
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Reply #11 posted 09/06/07 8:57pm

heybaby

i don't know what to think about them. i've kind of tired of them. usually i look if someone posts whom ive never seen before-and thats just because i'm nosy. As far as the self-esteem issue goes i think in a sense it just reaffirms insecurities that "attractive" people have. the constant need to be praised just on looks. which i think can be unhealthy at times imo. but honestly i dont have a problem with the threads. to each its own shrug
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Reply #12 posted 09/06/07 8:58pm

Byron

Imago said:


And lawd, when a jankity face gets posted up there and you folks either ignore their post cuase you just can't bring yourself to find the right positive spin on a bad situation, or you flat out lie to them and they continue to post--that's when it becomes downright dangerous.

To be honest, I think it's pretty presumptuous of you to assume that a photo you see as "jankity" is seen that way by everyone else, and any praise or compliments that person is given is not sincere because you don't think it is. It takes very little for me to see someone's "beauty"...they can have beautiful eyes, or a gorgeous smile, or amazing skin, or silky hair or nice lips, etc....any one of those things would instantly make me look at someone as attractive, and I would say so, without it being a "lie".

As to what do I think of the photo threads? I think certain threat titles are possibly more harmful than the threads themselves...people sharing their photos so that their online personas are more fleshed out to the community they frequent so often is wonderful...and there are people here who I really like their posts, and seeing their faces, smiles and physical beings only makes them more real.

I guess I'm trying to say that it depends on the reasons people post on the threads more than the threads themselves...I don't think posting your photo hoping everyone will "ooh" and "aah" over it is too healthy. At the same time, I don't think having someone "oohing" and "aahing" over people's photos is the real culprit. How you see yourself should reside 100% within you, and no external praise is needed. That way, when you do get it, it's icing on the cake...and when someone else gets it, you're not bothered.
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Reply #13 posted 09/06/07 8:59pm

Lothan

Imago said:

fhqwhgads said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/243334

Even on that thread, folks are seeking affirmations to the opposite of the supposed intended declaration. shrug
In my case, no. I do actually believe on most days that I'm ugly. People think that's me being negative or whatever but I can accept tat I am not what some?/most? consider to be physically beautiful.
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Reply #14 posted 09/06/07 8:59pm

ThreadCula

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Photowhore Photowhore
Please dont post no more
Infinity=Jankity
Jankity photos for infinity
Ohhhhh Jankity!
"Nobody makes me bleed my own blood...NOBODY!"
johnart says: "I'm THE shit"
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Reply #15 posted 09/06/07 8:59pm

heybaby

Imago said:

fhqwhgads said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/243334

Even on that thread, folks are seeking affirmations to the opposite of the supposed intended declaration. shrug


yup.
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Reply #16 posted 09/06/07 8:59pm

Cinnie

Cinnie said:

Imago said:

It's just that at what point does it go from being good natured fun, into something a bit more perverse?


So, who made it to your latest avatar? smile
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Reply #17 posted 09/06/07 8:59pm

fhqwhgads

Imago said:

fhqwhgads said:

http://prince.org/msg/100/243334

Even on that thread, folks are seeking affirmations to the opposite of the supposed intended declaration. shrug


Of course. I straight up referred to it and it still happened. It always would.

You've written what I think everyone honestly thinks about at some point when posting on the the picture threads. I can't pick the bones out of it. I understand it thoroughly, but don't feel a need to pass any kind of judgment on it. It's inevitable.

Interesting it's increased a hell of a lot this last year and in particular this last few months though.
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Reply #18 posted 09/06/07 9:00pm

Anxiety

you're just going to photoshop everyone's heads to a picture of cher's body or some shit regardless. shrug
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Reply #19 posted 09/06/07 9:00pm

Byron

ThreadCula said:

Photowhore Photowhore
Please dont post no more
Infinity=Jankity
Jankity photos for infinity
Ohhhhh Jankity!

lol lol clapping
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Reply #20 posted 09/06/07 9:01pm

Imago

Lothan said:

I'm actually pretty sick of the photowhore threads. They used to be a once and a while thing, now they are all the time.

I used to post pics to get a reaction but now, I am so comfortable in my own skin that it doesn't matter to me what a bunch of strangers think.



I agree with you on this point.


But there's an obvious undercurrent momentum in them lately.
It very much appears to be folks looking for this "affirmation" and I think if folks REALLY are introspective they'll realize this is largely the motivation.



I mean, I posted a "show me your messiest room" thread or something to that affect, and folks were absolutely mortified to do it. I think only Zombiekitten bothered to post something. lol
So, it's not all about laughs and having a good time. There's a vanity element to it you know? And that's harmless fun, but does seem to be running rampant lately.

It's like imago theme threads. They start getting eyerolls cause I'm so popular and stuff. shrug
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Reply #21 posted 09/06/07 9:02pm

Cinnie

We could have called this thread "Vanity and the Org"



but that could get a little confusing.



hmmm Maybe Prince is the reason why the Org has photowhore threads.
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Reply #22 posted 09/06/07 9:03pm

ZombieKitten

Imago said:

Lothan said:

I'm actually pretty sick of the photowhore threads. They used to be a once and a while thing, now they are all the time.

I used to post pics to get a reaction but now, I am so comfortable in my own skin that it doesn't matter to me what a bunch of strangers think.



I agree with you on this point.


But there's an obvious undercurrent momentum in them lately.
It very much appears to be folks looking for this "affirmation" and I think if folks REALLY are introspective they'll realize this is largely the motivation.



I mean, I posted a "show me your messiest room" thread or something to that affect, and folks were absolutely mortified to do it. I think only Zombiekitten bothered to post something. lol
So, it's not all about laughs and having a good time. There's a vanity element to it you know? And that's harmless fun, but does seem to be running rampant lately.

It's like imago theme threads. They start getting eyerolls cause I'm so popular and stuff. shrug



it's even messier now! wanna see! lol
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Reply #23 posted 09/06/07 9:03pm

Imago

Byron said:

Imago said:


And lawd, when a jankity face gets posted up there and you folks either ignore their post cuase you just can't bring yourself to find the right positive spin on a bad situation, or you flat out lie to them and they continue to post--that's when it becomes downright dangerous.

To be honest, I think it's pretty presumptuous of you to assume that a photo you see as "jankity" is seen that way by everyone else, and any praise or compliments that person is given is not sincere because you don't think it is. It takes very little for me to see someone's "beauty"...they can have beautiful eyes, or a gorgeous smile, or amazing skin, or silky hair or nice lips, etc....any one of those things would instantly make me look at someone as attractive, and I would say so, without it being a "lie".

As to what do I think of the photo threads? I think certain threat titles are possibly more harmful than the threads themselves...people sharing their photos so that their online personas are more fleshed out to the community they frequent so often is wonderful...and there are people here who I really like their posts, and seeing their faces, smiles and physical beings only makes them more real.

I guess I'm trying to say that it depends on the reasons people post on the threads more than the threads themselves...I don't think posting your photo hoping everyone will "ooh" and "aah" over it is too healthy. At the same time, I don't think having someone "oohing" and "aahing" over people's photos is the real culprit. How you see yourself should reside 100% within you, and no external praise is needed. That way, when you do get it, it's icing on the cake...and when someone else gets it, you're not bothered.



Well, I don't Byron.
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Reply #24 posted 09/06/07 9:03pm

evenstar3

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Imago said:

I posted a "show me your messiest room" thread or something to that affect


dude, i did that thread a few years ago and everyone was all omfg evenstar you're so messy omfg

lol
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Reply #25 posted 09/06/07 9:03pm

Byron

Imago said:

Byron said:


To be honest, I think it's pretty presumptuous of you to assume that a photo you see as "jankity" is seen that way by everyone else, and any praise or compliments that person is given is not sincere because you don't think it is. It takes very little for me to see someone's "beauty"...they can have beautiful eyes, or a gorgeous smile, or amazing skin, or silky hair or nice lips, etc....any one of those things would instantly make me look at someone as attractive, and I would say so, without it being a "lie".

As to what do I think of the photo threads? I think certain threat titles are possibly more harmful than the threads themselves...people sharing their photos so that their online personas are more fleshed out to the community they frequent so often is wonderful...and there are people here who I really like their posts, and seeing their faces, smiles and physical beings only makes them more real.

I guess I'm trying to say that it depends on the reasons people post on the threads more than the threads themselves...I don't think posting your photo hoping everyone will "ooh" and "aah" over it is too healthy. At the same time, I don't think having someone "oohing" and "aahing" over people's photos is the real culprit. How you see yourself should reside 100% within you, and no external praise is needed. That way, when you do get it, it's icing on the cake...and when someone else gets it, you're not bothered.



Well, I don't Byron.

That's kinda obvious lol lol...
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Reply #26 posted 09/06/07 9:04pm

ZombieKitten

the way I see it, is a new bunch of orgers are still in their honeymoon org phase shrug
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Reply #27 posted 09/06/07 9:05pm

JustErin

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Everyone, and I mean everyone just posts pics of themselves to feel better about themselves.

That's why I do it. I struggle with self-hatred every day.

I just wanna be loved. bawl
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Reply #28 posted 09/06/07 9:05pm

Imago

Byron said:

Imago said:




Well, I don't Byron.

That's kinda obvious lol lol...



This doesn't make me lesser a person than you, you know. nod
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Reply #29 posted 09/06/07 9:06pm

Imago

JustErin said:

Everyone, and I mean everyone just posts pics of themselves to feel better about themselves.

That's why I do it. I struggle with self-hatred every day.

I just wanna be loved. bawl

That's why you're a whore.
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