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Printableretina said: NDRU said: Some folks think it's irresponsible to have fun while we're at war, for example, but I think I only have so much control over the world, but I have control over my own life, and I am of no benefit to the world if I'm simply adding misery to it. I know what you're saying and I agree, but the question I was trying to raise on this thread wasn't really if we should dwell on painful truths but rather if we should acquire them at all in the first place? In other words, if we have a chance to not even know about some of the crap that's going on, should we choose that, and if so in which cases? The truth, and reality, are better than ignorance. I'm not talking Rotton.com reality, which is gore for gore's sake. How one thinks and behaves is based on experience, knowledge, and upbringing. To be "protected" is only deceptive. This doesn't apply to ALL circumstances. Just my general philsophy.  | |
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retina said: NDRU said: In the cheating example, I wouldn't want to know if my girlfriend cheated out of some extreme circumstance (she was imprisoned with some guy and all they had was each other and they had sex) That would have nothing to do with me, and I would forgive her if I did find out, anyway. If she'd done something you wouldn't have been able to forgive her for though (just hypothesizing here), would you have wanted to know then, or would it be better to just return to your old life with her (assuming that it was something she'd never do again)? Similarly, I don't want to know about the crazy sex she had before me either. It's okay that she did it, but why should I know about it?
I don't know, no reason really. I would probably be interested in knowing out of pure curiosity, but at the same time it wouldn't be great if it turned out that she only truly got off on black guys or something else that I'm not.   That would mean she never got off on you in the first place and why would anyone want to continue on with someone who does not get off on them?
What if it was another woman? would that turn you on? If so, why? . [Edited 7/18/07 16:26pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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mdiver said: : [snip bait - CarrieMpls]
Well I would like the record to show that I'm actually behaving!  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: [snip bait - CarrieMpls]
Well I would like the record to show that I'm actually behaving! Good boy!  | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Lothan said: Cheating does not make one a common whore. I am an exceptional whore.
 I don't think cheating necessarily equates whoredom. In instances where women are so ridiculous as to think their men need sex 6 times a year, I don't look at a man straying in the same way as when the wife is seeking to please her husband and he's just a greedy pig. Nor do I look at women in the same way who stray for emotional support, say in the instance where they are being abused. Of course, I'd suggest just leaving in your partner is causing you to react from lack of love or attention but I don't view all "cheating" as wrong. At the end of the day, realationships are about compatibility. And if two partners aren't compatiblile in the bedroom in out then, they'll be some drama. A lot of this is common sense. | |
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MsLegs said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: I don't think cheating necessarily equates whoredom. In instances where women are so ridiculous as to think their men need sex 6 times a year, I don't look at a man straying in the same way as when the wife is seeking to please her husband and he's just a greedy pig. Nor do I look at women in the same way who stray for emotional support, say in the instance where they are being abused. Of course, I'd suggest just leaving in your partner is causing you to react from lack of love or attention but I don't view all "cheating" as wrong. At the end of the day, realationships are about compatibility. And if two partners aren't compatiblile in the bedroom in out then, they'll be some drama. A lot of this is common sense. Very true. 
I'm assuming that Retina's girlfriend not getting off on him and only on black dudes is something he'd want to know I'd have no tolerance really if I found out my partner really didn't want me. Tell me the truth and let me out!
. [Edited 7/18/07 16:37pm] 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: MsLegs said: At the end of the day, realationships are about compatibility. And if two partners aren't compatiblile in the bedroom in out then, they'll be some drama. A lot of this is common sense. Very true.
I'm assuming that Retina's girlfriend not getting off on him and only on black dudes is something he'd want to know I'd have no tolerance really if I found out my partner really didn't want me. Tell me the truth and let me out!
. [Edited 7/18/07 16:37pm] Absolutely, the truth is the light. | |
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ignorance is never bliss. truth, no matter good or bad can only bring enlightment. i don't care how fucked up the truth is, just let me know before i get in to deep! | |
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heybaby said: ignorance is never bliss. truth, no matter good or bad can only bring enlightment. i don't care how fucked up the truth is, just let me know before i get in to deep!
shanti0608 said: knowledge is power
I honestly agree with both these statements. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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heybaby said: ignorance is never bliss. truth, no matter good or bad can only bring enlightment. i don't care how fucked up the truth is, just let me know before i get in to deep!
 In the long run, nothing good comes from ignorance. Ever.a psychotic is someone who just figured out what's going on | |
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retina said: NDRU said: Some folks think it's irresponsible to have fun while we're at war, for example, but I think I only have so much control over the world, but I have control over my own life, and I am of no benefit to the world if I'm simply adding misery to it. I know what you're saying and I agree, but the question I was trying to raise on this thread wasn't really if we should dwell on painful truths but rather if we should acquire them at all in the first place? In other words, if we have a chance to not even know about some of the crap that's going on, should we choose that, and if so in which cases? Are you blissful???? | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: mdiver said: : [snip bait - CarrieMpls]
Well I would like the record to show that I'm actually behaving! I would like the record to show that .....oh never mind ....it so isn't worth it. | |
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mdiver said: SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Well I would like the record to show that I'm actually behaving! I would like the record to show that .....oh never mind ....it so isn't worth it. Behave!!! | |
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Ocean said: mdiver said: I would like the record to show that .....oh never mind ....it so isn't worth it. Behave!!! I am....hang on is NOT saying something no longer allowed? | |
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I saw a movie not long ago, where the husband had this best friend who was a woman, but he never told his wife about her. It went on for about 2 years, he would do fun stuff with his "bestie" like bowling, going out for lunch etc. Nothing sexual, or even remotely romantic. He said he was going to tell his wife but the right moment never came up. The wife found out (from undeleted sent SMS messages on his phone) was EXTREMELY hurt, and said it was much worse than a drunken one night stand. He challenged her, and in the ensuing argument she ended up confessing she did indeed have one once, and it meant nothing. Not to him it didn't. 
it's just a movie, but I think he should have told her about the friendship (that is something they needed to talk about and work through), but he didn't need to know about the drunken one night stand, it was a one-off mistake that ended up costing them their marriage. | |
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Absolute knowledge is not afforded to us anyway.
Einstein was right in that imagination is therefore more important. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: retina said: I don't know, no reason really. I would probably be interested in knowing out of pure curiosity, but at the same time it wouldn't be great if it turned out that she only truly got off on black guys or something else that I'm not. That would mean she never got off on you in the first place and why would anyone want to continue on with someone who does not get off on them?
What if it was another woman? would that turn you on? If so, why? . [Edited 7/18/07 16:26pm] I find it interesting that the first scenario that retina thought of that would scare him was that his girlfriend is into black guys. Is that a common fear? | |
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ZombieKitten said: I saw a movie not long ago, where the husband had this best friend who was a woman, but he never told his wife about her. It went on for about 2 years, he would do fun stuff with his "bestie" like bowling, going out for lunch etc. Nothing sexual, or even remotely romantic. He said he was going to tell his wife but the right moment never came up. The wife found out (from undeleted sent SMS messages on his phone) was EXTREMELY hurt, and said it was much worse than a drunken one night stand. He challenged her, and in the ensuing argument she ended up confessing she did indeed have one once, and it meant nothing. Not to him it didn't.
it's just a movie, but I think he should have told her about the friendship (that is something they needed to talk about and work through), but he didn't need to know about the drunken one night stand, it was a one-off mistake that ended up costing them their marriage. If it was something that was big enough to cost them their marriage then maybe it shouldn't have been a secret? | |
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sextonseven said: I find it interesting that the first scenario that retina thought of that would scare him was that his girlfriend is into black guys. Is that a common fear?
You're overinterpreting what I said. It's not about black guys specifically (or fear for that matter); I was merely giving a random example of her liking something that I'm not. I could just as well have said "really short guys" or "quiet guys".  | |
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retina said: sextonseven said: I find it interesting that the first scenario that retina thought of that would scare him was that his girlfriend is into black guys. Is that a common fear?
You're overinterpreting what I said. It's not about black guys specifically (or fear for that matter); I was merely giving a random example of her liking something that I'm not. I could just as well have said "really short guys" or "quiet guys". My biggest worry would be my girlfriend being into twins. She should keep that to herself. | |
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sextonseven said: retina said: You're overinterpreting what I said. It's not about black guys specifically (or fear for that matter); I was merely giving a random example of her liking something that I'm not. I could just as well have said "really short guys" or "quiet guys". My biggest worry would be my girlfriend being into twins. She should keep that to herself. Why, do you have a twin brother? | |
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sextonseven said: retina said: You're overinterpreting what I said. It's not about black guys specifically (or fear for that matter); I was merely giving a random example of her liking something that I'm not. I could just as well have said "really short guys" or "quiet guys". My biggest worry would be my girlfriend being into twins. She should keep that to herself. what? | |
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retina said: sextonseven said: My biggest worry would be my girlfriend being into twins. She should keep that to herself. Why, do you have a twin brother? Not a twin, I just think it's a little freaky. Two siblings in bed together with the same person at the same time? And they look the same?  | |
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sextonseven said: retina said: Why, do you have a twin brother? Not a twin, I just think it's a little freaky. Two siblings in bed together with the same person at the same time? And they look the same? Yeah, and they might have similar reactions to everything and maybe giggle at the same time with the same voice. Eerie. | |
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