ya know where they get that top billing like they are really starring in a movie

i dont get it


i find it disturbing




if your a steve buscemi fan and hes playing the voice of a pig, you gonna run right out ?

your right shausler

simply rediculous as im sure the orgers

about to chime in will agree

i hate celeb vioces in animated feature films.


Dreamworks love the idea though, and often, the voice adds nothing, or worse, actually makes that character more annying with their voice on it.



Disney use to only use the occasional big star to voice their cartoons (robin williams was so good as the genie in aladdin), and shrek has worked, thanx to the talented mike myers and eddie murphy, but cameron diaz? Please, she could be anybody?


I noticed dreamworks used alot of crap voices for madagascar, a film i wont even watch, because i know its gonna be crap for me.

The Incredibles had the perfect voices for its characters. Plus I like Jason Lee as an actor.

thesexofit said:

however,

i would take alisa millano

in a trisket commercial

shausler said:

In UK, i only see her in charmed (which i dont watch and only, on here, found out it was her). I wish they'd she "who's the boss" again, and "life goes on" with everyones favourite mullethaired actor, turned one hit wonder, Tommy Puett.


http://www.videocure.com/...698e85.asx
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TMPletz said:

...Although other than Holly Hunter, none of the names were of "big" stars...Disney having Mel Gibson's voice as John Smith in Pocahontas was a huge mistake...

Byron said:

I havn't seen that film since it came out. I found it so terrible as a 10 year old. I liked Billy joel as the dodger in oliver and company. He sounded cool.






"why should i worry, why should i care". Love that song.

Byron said:

holly hunter


shhhuffferin sshhuckatashhhhh

thesexofit said:

Never saw that one...but I did see "All Dogs Go To Heaven", with Burt Reynolds voicing the lead...another HUGE mistake..lol

shausler said:

I looove her southern lisp..lol

Byron said:

i could drown in her drool and drawl


hey bro by the way


mon am mi

Byron said:

Yet another dog and cat movie from the late 80's (all those live action dog movies, damn, that was one bad hollywood craze)

I love that film. I liked burt in it. He was cool. Critics dont like that movie, i always loved it. I think critics got a little surprised that the main character actually dies in the end. Its fine for kids any age. Bluths best movie by far
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shausler said:

"Drown in her drool" kinda nauseates, amigo...lol

Mon ami...I used to say that all the time on the purple and black...

Byron said:

pepperidge farm remembers

thesexofit said:

Dom Delouise was in that as well, right??...Burt Reynolds mumbled too much, I think...lol ...and yeah, having the lead character in an animated film die was a bit of a shocker at the time...

I think my turning point was Gillian Anderson's voice in Princess Mononoke as Moro in the english language version.

Byron said:

yep, dom was also in "oliver and company" and "an american tail" before that. Doms voice always cracks me up.

Anyway, western animation is dead now. No art in it anymore. Disney sold out bigtime by the late 90's. Straight to video sequel, after sequel. Now they canned 2D animation. I know they are a business, and they have had a really bad run (i think Mulan was their last big hit cartoon wise, minis pixar of course), so they cater to the pixar audience of "burp" humour. Leave that to pixar disney, please. Also, dreamworks "shrek" works, but what happened to the team that did "prince of egpyt"? Awesome film technically.

Western animation is at its lowest creatively since, well ever. The formula pixar created will come to an end. I just hope it will be soon.

thesexofit said:

It won't be anytime soon:

http://corporate.pixar.co...eID=185239

TMPletz said:

the formula that started with toy story, and is stil going strong with shrek, will go stale eventually. It has to. It took about 10 years for the "lets write a cartoon using andrew lyold webber narrative of storytelling" to slowly go sour aswell.

From the breakthrough "an american tail" to about "the hunchback of notre dame" was where u got virtually all western amimation following the same webber formula. And it was great. Just like toy story and shrek are. And i love those webber cartoon musicals, but there were some crap ones (bluths awful thumblina for example), and i bet "a sharks tale" was pretty crap aswell.


Only criticism i find of pixar is, like bluth, they may struggle to break out of their formula they sort of created, thus their films will go stale and really already have (sorry but finding nemo was a lazy movie, recycling alot of pixar material previous)
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thesexofit said:

Just so you know, the Shrek films were done by DreamWorks SKG, not Pixar.

TMPletz said:

and who does the Ice Age ones? Madagascar?

TMPletz said:

Yeah i know. skg are ripping off pixar, just like don bluth ripped off disney, then disney ripped off bluth back. Like live-action, everyone steals off eachother, u got to, to make money.


I forgotten what dreamworks animation computer company is called, but they know they are ripping off pixar. Look at "antz" and "a bugs life" and "finding nemo" "a sharks tale". Clever though, that "antz" came out before "a bugs life". Sneaky. But katzenberg, stole off pixar simple. Jeffrey katzenberg interestinly use to work at disney (he is the K is dreamworks SKG:-)

Speilberg= live action movies
jeffrey katzenberg= cartoon department
Geffen= music department.

Shame bluth has gone. I predict dreamworks computer department may go bankrupt within 20-30 years and may hit problems within a couple of years. It happened to ralph bashki, happened even quicker to don bluth (thanx to the bomb "titan a.e" which sunk 20th century fox's feature animation department almost for good, but i think fox had a hand on the cheapo "ice age" series, but iam not sure?).


Animation is a risky game.Dreamworks will fuck up before Pixar, if dreamworks havn't already (not sure how well sharks tale did box-office wise)

Where are Warner bros and universal? WB gave up after the very good "iron giant" (which iam pretty sure bombed) and universal? God knows? They use to deal through spielbergs old amblin i think? But of course, that got merged into dreamworks with geffan and Katzenberg.

Warners and universal will no doubt make computer animated films soon. But, thanx to disney fucking up for the past 5-6 years (think on their own, without pixar), i guess its just too risky to keep making animation films that sink or dont win back enough profit. Disney can still make a feature per year, but then they are disney. Mega huge orgnaisation. They can afford bombs (look at the expensive dud "treasure planet") Other big hollywood studio's , just dont seem to want to invest into animation, or should i say, feature computer animation. Shame.

Its pixar vs dreamworks. Both doing the same thing.

charlottegelin said:

madagascar is dreamworks (u can tell as every character has a famous voice, as dreamworks put that above a decent script and narrative sometimes)


ice age i think is fox distributed (like disney distributes pixar), with some canada studio making it? I think it was a surprise hit. And cheap too (ice backgrounds do not need as much money as usual backgrounds for 'toons LOL.)


Chicken little however, is just disney, releasing a disney film. No pixar. Complicated eh?
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thesexofit said:

Iron Giant was great! I love that film. I remember a couple of years ago that the Cartoon Network played it a bunch of times right around the Christmas season.

TMPletz said:

is that movie OK for a 4 and nearly 6 year old? I won't show them a PG movie unless I know it's not too scary or I watch it with them.

thesexofit said:

I have a hard time keeping up with them all. I LOVED Ice Age though
might take the boys to 2

charlottegelin said:

Oh yeah, I think it'd be okay for them.

TMPletz said:

I wil borrow it from the library for them then!