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Reply #30 posted 12/17/05 7:41am

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"That's really fucked up", "Not a snowballs chance in hell", "You make Jesus cry" etc etc...? confused

Wow, I've rarely the seen the org collective be this judgmental and intolerant before. It almost makes you think the question was "would you eat babies?"...

First off I think everybody should have the right to decide about their own sex lives without being scorned by society (and especially without being beaten up!). We're not talking rape or molestation here people. We're talking consentual sex between adults.

Secondly I think a lot of people fantasize about others and swinging definitely beats cheating. It's open and honest as opposed to the latter which is hidden and deceitful.

Some of you really need to chill. Even those of you that "only speak for yourselves". The subtext to a "hell no!" isn't "no, not for me thanks" but rather a "anyone who does that is crazy"...

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confused here i thought i was answering the question for myself. she asked "would you ever swing?" i answered, "no, not a snowballs chance in hell would i swing." did i ever say once that i judged other people for it? maybe you're reflecting your own feelings back on yourself . . . shrug


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Reply #31 posted 12/17/05 7:43am

retina

MarieLouise said:

retina said:

"That's really fucked up", "Not a snowballs chance in hell", "You make Jesus cry" etc etc...? confused

Wow, I've rarely the seen the org collective be this judgmental and intolerant before. It almost makes you think the question was "would you eat babies?"...

First off I think everybody should have the right to decide about their own sex lives without being scorned by society (and especially without being beaten up!). We're not talking rape or molestation here people. We're talking consentual sex between adults.

Secondly I think a lot of people fantasize about others and swinging definitely beats cheating. It's open and honest as opposed to the latter which is hidden and deceitful.

Some of you really need to chill. Even those of you that "only speak for yourselves". The subtext to a "hell no!" isn't "no, not for me thanks" but rather a "anyone who does that is crazy"...

twocents


I just answered the question, didn't read the thread. Reading this makes me wonder: what does 'swinging' exactly mean? Maybe I answered a question didn't understand...


I wasn't referring to you MarieLouise. You made one of the few sensible comments on this thread...although I think what is "natural" is relative and individual. wink

Swinging is basically having an open relationship where both are allowed to have sex with others. Some do it in an organized way, such as at a swingers club, others do it in the privacy of their own home.
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Reply #32 posted 12/17/05 7:56am

retina

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confused here i thought i was answering the question for myself. she asked "would you ever swing?" i answered, "no, not a snowballs chance in hell would i swing." did i ever say once that i judged other people for it?


No you didn't, but like I said in the last sentence of my previous post, the subtext speaks volumes. But yeah - I admit that your post wasn't too bad in and of itself. It was mostly the overall lynching atmosphere on this thread that made me react. Plus lilmissmissy's over-the-top comments.

maybe you're reflecting your own feelings back on yourself . . . shrug


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Reply #33 posted 12/17/05 8:01am

MarieLouise

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fuck this computer edit. I've tried to retype my answer three times and couldn't post it. I guess I just need to stay out of the discussion...
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Reply #34 posted 12/17/05 9:11am

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retina said:

fantasyislander said:


confused here i thought i was answering the question for myself. she asked "would you ever swing?" i answered, "no, not a snowballs chance in hell would i swing." did i ever say once that i judged other people for it?


No you didn't, but like I said in the last sentence of my previous post, the subtext speaks volumes. But yeah - I admit that your post wasn't too bad in and of itself. It was mostly the overall lynching atmosphere on this thread that made me react. Plus lilmissmissy's over-the-top comments.

maybe you're reflecting your own feelings back on yourself . . . shrug


talk to the hand



thank you!


oh and talk to the hand to you too! wink
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Reply #35 posted 12/17/05 9:23am

july

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Sure why not. shrug No. She would brick in a hurry.
That love in Marriage and all. It's the best thing that happens to you.
And the most emotional you will ever endeavor.
Only for the true of heart. heart It's worth it. To mess it up on a fling is not.
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Reply #36 posted 12/17/05 11:09am

Pochacco

No no no no no never hmph!


I believe that I am the very last monogamous homo left in existance lol
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Reply #37 posted 12/17/05 5:16pm

TMPletz

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Some of you really need to chill. Even those of you that "only speak for yourselves". The subtext to a "hell no!" isn't "no, not for me thanks" but rather a "anyone who does that is crazy"...

The changing of my original answer from "no" to a "Hell no!" is indicative of how strongly I feel against such a thing, myself. After thinking about my original answer, I reflected on what it would mean to my marriage and then edited to make my position on the matter even stronger. That answer in itself could hardly be construed as passing judgement on others.

As far as the "making Jesus cry" picture, that was meant as a little humor but with also a grain of truth to it as well. Are you condoning such behavior? I mean, that type of behavior is not natural, and as such it is forbidden by many religions. Pardon me for having some religious morals. confused
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Reply #38 posted 12/18/05 9:04am

Ace

Zelaira said:

Plenty of People Do..... So many people are into Fetish Parties and Swing Clubs. HEDONISM.....

Fetish parties are not about swinging. Some people may be picking-up partners there for that purpose, but - if so - they are definitely in the minority. Public fetish nights are basically the same as any club night, except there is a dress code and a "play" area with equipment; there is no actual sex happening at these events.

And, no, I don't believe open relationships work.
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Reply #39 posted 12/18/05 9:10am

AsianBomb777

Ace said:

Zelaira said:

Plenty of People Do..... So many people are into Fetish Parties and Swing Clubs. HEDONISM.....

Fetish parties are not about swinging. Some people may be picking-up partners there for that purpose, but - if so - they are definitely in the minority. Public fetish nights are basically the same as any club night, except there is a dress code and a "play" area with equipment; there is no actual sex happening at these events.

And, no, I don't believe open relationships work.



We used to have them here in Tampa. Interesting, but the music always sucked ass. ill

For good swingers clubs, one has to drive from here to Ft. Luaderdale. ALthough Tampa has them, FT. Lauderdale is swinger utopia.

I'm not personally comfortable with the whole notion of swinging (I'm a jealous man), but whatever floats their boat. shrug
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Reply #40 posted 12/18/05 9:13am

LleeLlee

Hell No.
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Reply #41 posted 12/18/05 9:14am

AsianBomb777

LleeLlee said:

Hell No.

we know you don't mean that.
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Reply #42 posted 12/18/05 9:20am

Ace

LleeLlee said:

Hell No.

Does this mean our threeway with Kate Moss is off? sad
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Reply #43 posted 12/18/05 9:30am

LleeLlee

AsianBomb777 said:

LleeLlee said:

Hell No.

we know you don't mean that.



I think nothing fucks up a relationship quicker. imo.

and i just find it a bit feeling ill
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Reply #44 posted 12/18/05 9:31am

LleeLlee

Ace said:

LleeLlee said:

Hell No.

Does this mean our threeway with Kate Moss is off? sad



comfort

Zel seems to be up for it.

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Reply #45 posted 12/18/05 9:45am

LleeLlee

I was watching the Tyra Banks show (yes I know smile) anyhow, she had this couple on where one of the partners wanted to give her boyfriend a free pass to date other people for the day. So she went out on a date with a guy and he went out on a date with this girl and they filmed it all. Then they sit on Tyra's sofa discussing the whole experience. The guy and his date got along so well, that the girlfriend who instigated the free pass regreted she had ever come up with the idea. doh! Anyhow, then he dumps his regualr girlfriend on national television and says that he didnt think he could go back to his girlfriend and resume the relationship. She was gutted. But it was her idea in the first place.


Remember, it was a "date" and not just two friends going out, so in that context nothing is off limits, including sex.

I think the guy felt resentful that she had instigated this and ultimately he was unable to get over it.

Maybe it works for some, i dont know, shrug
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Reply #46 posted 12/18/05 9:49am

AsianBomb777

LleeLlee said:

I was watching the Tyra Banks show (yes I know smile) anyhow, she had this couple on where one of the partners wanted to give her boyfriend a free pass to date other people for the day. So she went out on a date with a guy and he went out on a date with this girl and they filmed it all. Then they sit on Tyra's sofa discussing the whole experience. The guy and his date got along so well, that the girlfriend who instigated the free pass regreted she had ever come up with the idea. doh! Anyhow, then he dumps his regualr girlfriend on national television and says that he didnt think he could go back to his girlfriend and resume the relationship. She was gutted. But it was her idea in the first place.


Remember, it was a "date" and not just two friends going out, so in that context nothing is off limits, including sex.

I think the guy felt resentful that she had instigated this and ultimately he was unable to get over it.

Maybe it works for some, i dont know, shrug



This is my opinion: Eventually, given time, a man will always stray.
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Reply #47 posted 12/18/05 9:53am

LleeLlee

She literally gave him a free pass to stray though and it backfired on her.
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Reply #48 posted 12/18/05 9:56am

AsianBomb777

LleeLlee said:

She literally gave him a free pass to stray though and it backfired on her.


Even if she didn't all he would have needed was an oppurnitty to do it.
Perhaps at work, with a female coworker that he hits it off with. Perhaps at the gym. Perhaps in passing--but it was eventual.
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Reply #49 posted 12/18/05 9:59am

VoicesCarry

AsianBomb777 said:

LleeLlee said:

I was watching the Tyra Banks show (yes I know smile) anyhow, she had this couple on where one of the partners wanted to give her boyfriend a free pass to date other people for the day. So she went out on a date with a guy and he went out on a date with this girl and they filmed it all. Then they sit on Tyra's sofa discussing the whole experience. The guy and his date got along so well, that the girlfriend who instigated the free pass regreted she had ever come up with the idea. doh! Anyhow, then he dumps his regualr girlfriend on national television and says that he didnt think he could go back to his girlfriend and resume the relationship. She was gutted. But it was her idea in the first place.


Remember, it was a "date" and not just two friends going out, so in that context nothing is off limits, including sex.

I think the guy felt resentful that she had instigated this and ultimately he was unable to get over it.

Maybe it works for some, i dont know, shrug



This is my opinion: Eventually, given time, a sleazy man will always stray.


Much better.
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Reply #50 posted 12/18/05 10:01am

AsianBomb777

VoicesCarry said:

AsianBomb777 said:




This is my opinion: Eventually, given time, a sleazy man will always stray.


Much better.

lol

Yes, but I postulate that givent the right cirumstances, all men except David Hasselhoff will stray.
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Reply #51 posted 12/18/05 10:02am

VoicesCarry

AsianBomb777 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Much better.

lol

Yes, but I postulate that givent the right cirumstances, all men except David Hasselhoff will stray.


falloff Not true.
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Reply #52 posted 12/18/05 10:04am

LleeLlee

AsianBomb777 said:

LleeLlee said:

She literally gave him a free pass to stray though and it backfired on her.


Even if she didn't all he would have needed was an oppurnitty to do it.
Perhaps at work, with a female coworker that he hits it off with. Perhaps at the gym. Perhaps in passing--but it was eventual.



You dont think he felt at all resentful about the whole thing? I do. Tyra kept asking him and he said no, but you could see it on his whole face lol

Men are less likely to forgive a straying partner than a woman is, yes i know, sweeping generalisation, but still...
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Reply #53 posted 12/18/05 10:07am

AsianBomb777

LleeLlee said:

AsianBomb777 said:



Even if she didn't all he would have needed was an oppurnitty to do it.
Perhaps at work, with a female coworker that he hits it off with. Perhaps at the gym. Perhaps in passing--but it was eventual.



You dont think he felt at all resentful about the whole thing? I do. Tyra kept asking him and he said no, but you could see it on his whole face lol

Men are less likely to forgive a straying partner than a woman is, yes i know, sweeping generalisation, but still...

Personally I don't. I think alot of men jump at the chance of "playing" around. We're not so much polygomists, as serial monogamist. That's why he dumped his girlfriend for the new one--instead, of just hoping to have a little something on the side.
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Reply #54 posted 12/18/05 11:26am

LleeLlee

AsianBomb777 said:

LleeLlee said:




You dont think he felt at all resentful about the whole thing? I do. Tyra kept asking him and he said no, but you could see it on his whole face lol

Men are less likely to forgive a straying partner than a woman is, yes i know, sweeping generalisation, but still...

Personally I don't. I think alot of men jump at the chance of "playing" around. We're not so much polygomists, as serial monogamist. That's why he dumped his girlfriend for the new one--instead, of just hoping to have a little something on the side.



But why dump her on T.V in front of millions? (okay maybe only thousands, considering how many people probably watch this show lol)

His ego/pride had been dented and he was resentful, and thats why he dumped her, and not just because he fancied the other woman, imo.
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Reply #55 posted 12/18/05 5:13pm

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retina said:

"That's really fucked up", "Not a snowballs chance in hell", "You make Jesus cry" etc etc...? confused

Wow, I've rarely the seen the org collective be this judgmental and intolerant before. It almost makes you think the question was "would you eat babies?"...

First off I think everybody should have the right to decide about their own sex lives without being scorned by society (and especially without being beaten up!). We're not talking rape or molestation here people. We're talking consentual sex between adults.

Secondly I think a lot of people fantasize about others and swinging definitely beats cheating. It's open and honest as opposed to the latter which is hidden and deceitful.

Some of you really need to chill. Even those of you that "only speak for yourselves". The subtext to a "hell no!" isn't "no, not for me thanks" but rather a "anyone who does that is crazy"...

twocents


Judgemental- and you're not being judgemental? smile

Didn't you just say we are all entitled to decide on how we as each person decide to live their sex livez?

So i say it'z fucked up.

I say it'z fucked up because a marriage is about two people and that'z the way- in my opinion- it should be. LOL a swinger'z lifestyle is not a family lifestyle. There are far more hotter wayz 2 liven up sex between two people without needing to add extras to it! That'z all! lol That'z all there is!
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Reply #56 posted 12/18/05 5:49pm

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I wouldn't do it. It just opens the door to so many things and if the partner isn't secure in themselves or the relationship then it'll be hell on earth and who wants that?
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Reply #57 posted 12/18/05 5:53pm

Zelaira

Boy,this crowd on here is so CONSERVATIVE... MANY COUPLES YOUNG and OLD SWING to TRY something Fun and New...What Squares... I Certainly WOULD! WHY NOT?
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Reply #58 posted 12/18/05 5:56pm

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AsianBomb777 said:

VoicesCarry said:



Much better.

lol

Yes, but I postulate that givent the right cirumstances, all men except David Hasselhoff will stray.


Wrong.
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Reply #59 posted 12/18/05 6:43pm

matt

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retina said:

"That's really fucked up", "Not a snowballs chance in hell", "You make Jesus cry" etc etc...? confused

Wow, I've rarely the seen the org collective be this judgmental and intolerant before. It almost makes you think the question was "would you eat babies?"...


Freaky people don't like being out-freaked. smile
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