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My heart is frozen still Don't fool yourself, she was heartache from that moment that you met her
My heart is frozen still As I try to find the will to forget her, somehow I think I've forgotten her now Do you have someone you just can't get over, and wouldn't want to anyway? Do you relish that ache, or loathe it? I think if you can capture it some tangible form... beauty can surface. | |
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what a brilliant, brilliant song that is.
hullo, kitty. | |
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starkitty said: Don't fool yourself, she was heartache from that moment that you met her
My heart is frozen still As I try to find the will to forget her, somehow I think I've forgotten her now Do you have someone you just can't get over, and wouldn't want to anyway? Do you relish that ache, or loathe it? I think if you can capture it some tangible form... beauty can surface. yes...loved him since I was 11 years old and will never stop | |
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Natisse said: starkitty said: Don't fool yourself, she was heartache from that moment that you met her
My heart is frozen still As I try to find the will to forget her, somehow I think I've forgotten her now Do you have someone you just can't get over, and wouldn't want to anyway? Do you relish that ache, or loathe it? I think if you can capture it some tangible form... beauty can surface. yes...loved him since I was 11 years old and will never stop Nat, Gene Simmons doesn't count 
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rocknrolldave said: Natisse said: yes...loved him since I was 11 years old and will never stop Nat, Gene Simmons doesn't count
 ... lucky that's not who I meant then huh?   | |
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TheFrog said: what a brilliant, brilliant song that is.
hullo, kitty. Is it insane that I've never had the entire album before now? I think I'm in love with a ghost. Hi froggy. Miss you. | |
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Hi gorgeous
as for your Q, I got over him. Although he will always have a place in my heart. I haven't spoken to him or seen him for years, but I still wonder how he is doing at times. | |
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Hi sweetpea! So, that makes me wonder, through the ache if your life has been enriched somehow, if for nothing but the memories. | |
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starkitty said: Hi sweetpea! So, that makes me wonder, through the ache if your life has been enriched somehow, if for nothing but the memories.
I think memories always enrich you, I think the ache becomes less painful over time. Also, I didn't want to pick at the wound anymore and let it heal. Though the scar remains, it becomes a part of you. | |
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Lleena said: starkitty said: Hi sweetpea! So, that makes me wonder, through the ache if your life has been enriched somehow, if for nothing but the memories.
I think memories always enrich you, I think the ache becomes less painful over time. Also, I didn't want to pick at the wound anymore and let it heal. Though the scar remains, it becomes a part of you. "You have become part of me, my pathology" I think you can indulge the "what could have been" for a while, but you do have to let it go. Yeah? | |
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That sounds dire..
I just take the lessons learned, and move on. ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^
Being happy doesn't mean that everything is perfect, it means you've decided to look beyond the imperfections... unknown | |
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starkitty said: Lleena said: I think memories always enrich you, I think the ache becomes less painful over time. Also, I didn't want to pick at the wound anymore and let it heal. Though the scar remains, it becomes a part of you. "You have become part of me, my pathology" I think you can indulge the "what could have been" for a while, but you do have to let it go. Yeah? Yes. You have to let it go to move forward. How you let go is important too. Dont smooth over the cracks and try to fix them that way, rather, let the cracks remain but take on less significance. Do you know what I mean Kitty? | |
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Past loves are never as good or as true as you remember them to be.
"You glorify the past when the future dries up" U2 - God Part II | |
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rocknrolldave said: Past loves are never as good or as true as you remember them to be.
"You glorify the past when the future dries up" U2 - God Part II Except of course Felicity Kendall back in 197-never-you-mind.... 
I loved her then and I love her now.... | |
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Moving on from a loving relationship...
Don't: ~Downplay or diminish what the two of you shared, thinking it's easier this way...part of truly moving on is honoring and respecting what was shared and given, and you don't do that by acting like it never happened. Besides, reality denied always comes back to haunt. Always. ~Overplay how happy you are now that you're no longer with them...It's ok to miss the happiness felt while being with them while also appreciating the ways in which your life is positive now that you're not with them. It doesn't have to be either/or. ~Start defining them by their "flaws" and "faults"...deciding to magnify certain aspects of a person in order to make it easier to move past them never works. Allow them to remain beautiful within your heart and soul. There's a reason you loved them, afterall, no matter what form that love took. Do: ~Try and guarantee respect, appreciation and love remains between you both...nobody can give you a truer, more valuable gift than their time and heart. Give honor and respect to that. ~Accept your own role in how things turned out...no relationship ever ends up the way it does because of only one of the people involved. And moving on is about both foregiveness and acceptance. ~Remain real with them...if you find yourself acting and being different with them than you are with everyone else, then you haven't moved on. Some part of you is still remaining in the past with them...which is ok. Just realize that you are... Above all...learn about yourself from it. Don't learn about them. Obviously, there are the exceptions...but still, my  | |
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Byron said: Moving on from a loving relationship...
Don't: ~Downplay or diminish what the two of you shared, thinking it's easier this way...part of truly moving on is honoring and respecting what was shared and given, and you don't do that by acting like it never happened. Besides, reality denied always comes back to haunt. Always. ~Overplay how happy you are now that you're no longer with them...It's ok to miss the happiness felt while being with them while also appreciating the ways in which your life is positive now that you're not with them. It doesn't have to be either/or. ~Start defining them by their "flaws" and "faults"...deciding to magnify certain aspects of a person in order to make it easier to move past them never works. Allow them to remain beautiful within your heart and soul. There's a reason you loved them, afterall, no matter what form that love took. Do: ~Try and guarantee respect, appreciation and love remains between you both...nobody can give you a truer, more valuable gift than their time and heart. Give honor and respect to that. ( I messed that one up) ~Accept your own role in how things turned out...no relationship ever ends up the way it does because of only one of the people involved. And moving on is about both foregiveness and acceptance. ( I was the main reason why he's no longer talking to me) ~Remain real with them...if you find yourself acting and being different with them than you are with everyone else, then you haven't moved on. Some part of you is still remaining in the past with them...which is ok. Just realize that you are... Above all...learn about yourself from it. Don't learn about them. Obviously, there are the exceptions...but still, my I was told you can't get over something that was never there, but I am having a hard time getting over losing a close friend. [Edited 7/27/05 9:10am] [Edited 7/27/05 9:12am] | |
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EvErSoLeSa said: I was told you can't get over something that was never there, but I am having a hard time getting over losing a close friend. me too hon I know what you mean   | |
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starkitty said: Don't fool yourself, she was heartache from that moment that you met her
My heart is frozen still As I try to find the will to forget her, somehow I think I've forgotten her now Do you have someone you just can't get over, and wouldn't want to anyway? Do you relish that ache, or loathe it? I think if you can capture it some tangible form... beauty can surface.  "I always thought that with time, thoughts of you would leave my head.
I was wrong. Now I find, just one thing makes me forget: red, red wine."
Well. I've already whined about the love of my life in my "one that got away" thread. Thought about him for 12 years and these fucking feelings won't die.  At this point they are annoying. I don't feel like going through heartbreak every time I watch a love story.
Do the memories cause me pain? Hell yeah. Especially if i'm listening to Jewel's "You Were Meant for Me." But i don't loathe it. I love that I've been able to feel so intensely about someone. That has made life worth living. When I think of him, my heart feels full. That's a hell of a lot better than being hollow. If I could have a witch cast a spell so I'd never cry over him again, I wouldn't. Like Dido said "I'm in love and always will be." And that's fine. I can take the heartache. All the guys I meet are bleh compared to him. And I couldn't care less about the men I thought I loved before him. You know at Sonny Bono's funeral it was clear Cher never got over Sonny. I'm gonna be like that with this guy. He's gonna be larger than life to me forever. No one can ever compare. I cried last night over him. I'm going to a business trip next week and will be in the city where I think he lives. It's going to take every thing within me not to hunt for him.  "I called my mom but she was out for a walk. I poured a cup of coffee, but it didn't want to talk, so I put on my coat in the pouring rain. I saw a movie but it wasn't the same. It was happy and I was sad. And it made me miss you oh so bad 'cuz ... dreams last sooo long, even after you're gone. I know that you love me and soon you will see. You were meant for me. And I was meant for you."  | |
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i don't know about 'getting over' anymore. there are people i think about a lot, and i wouldn't want it any other way.
so relish that feeling rather than regret its existence, and certainly not loathe it. having said that, i have certainly been in a position where i wanted a feeling and a memory to die more than anything else in the world...ain't we all? but the benefits the memories brought with them outweighted the pain eventually. So i was watching 'eternal sunshine of the spotless mind' thinking, 'no, no, no!' great film, though.
again this reminds me of the beginning of that ted hughes poem, called 'a short film' which raises exactly the same sort of issues: It was not meant to hurt. It had been made for happy remembering By people who were still too young To have learned about memory. | |
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I want to get over it. I suppose I'll always have a very soft spot for the man, but overall, fuck him.
Right now, I'm relishing in the fact he's in pain and has to get an operation. That's naughty, isn't it? Insatiable taught me everything I know about balls.
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Lleena said: Dont smooth over the cracks and try to fix them that way, rather, let the cracks remain but take on less significance.
Better yet, let the grass grow through em Aching is the worst part tho 
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starkitty said: TheFrog said: what a brilliant, brilliant song that is.
hullo, kitty. Is it insane that I've never had the entire album before now? I think I'm in love with a ghost. Hi froggy. Miss you. it is completely and utterly bonkers. what have you been doing with your life if you didn't have the whole album? going on about 'ribbons of coal' and flags on the marble arch, and nothing else! 
miss you too, sweetheart.  | |
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Yeah I carry torches  I think it has to do with my own hurt and regret and self esteem than it has to do with anyone else. And yeah I roll around in the hurt sometimes, enjoy it.
When you can say "look I'm worthless and here's the proof... this person left me, that person left me...after all I felt" yadda yadda yadda...  it gives you an excuse to not change and to just waste away. It takes a shit load of responsibilty off your shoulders ya know what I mean?
I get what you saying about the beauty of it all. I think I'm the type of person who finds beauty in the dark twisted and sad than I do in light happy things. Happy bouncy fluffy things usually annoy the fuck out of me. If this doesn't make anysense just ignore me I didnt sleep lastnight.  In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Lleena said: starkitty said: "You have become part of me, my pathology" I think you can indulge the "what could have been" for a while, but you do have to let it go. Yeah? Yes. You have to let it go to move forward. How you let go is important too. Dont smooth over the cracks and try to fix them that way, rather, let the cracks remain but take on less significance. Do you know what I mean Kitty? I do. It's like a roadmap of your life. | |
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Byron said: Moving on from a loving relationship...
Don't: ~Downplay or diminish what the two of you shared, thinking it's easier this way...part of truly moving on is honoring and respecting what was shared and given, and you don't do that by acting like it never happened. Besides, reality denied always comes back to haunt. Always. ~Overplay how happy you are now that you're no longer with them...It's ok to miss the happiness felt while being with them while also appreciating the ways in which your life is positive now that you're not with them. It doesn't have to be either/or. ~Start defining them by their "flaws" and "faults"...deciding to magnify certain aspects of a person in order to make it easier to move past them never works. Allow them to remain beautiful within your heart and soul. There's a reason you loved them, afterall, no matter what form that love took. Do: ~Try and guarantee respect, appreciation and love remains between you both...nobody can give you a truer, more valuable gift than their time and heart. Give honor and respect to that. ~Accept your own role in how things turned out...no relationship ever ends up the way it does because of only one of the people involved. And moving on is about both foregiveness and acceptance. ~Remain real with them...if you find yourself acting and being different with them than you are with everyone else, then you haven't moved on. Some part of you is still remaining in the past with them...which is ok. Just realize that you are... Above all...learn about yourself from it. Don't learn about them. Obviously, there are the exceptions...but still, my I think you should write self help books. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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TheFrog said: It was not meant to hurt. It had been made for happy remembering By people who were still too young To have learned about memory. that is so beautiful... it is completely and utterly bonkers.
what have you been doing with your life if you didn't have the whole album? going on about 'ribbons of coal' and flags on the marble arch, and nothing else! miss you too, sweetheart. I didn't realize how much I was missing! Like I found a little piece of my soul. | |
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Sweeny79 said: Yeah I carry torches
I think it has to do with my own hurt and regret and self esteem than it has to do with anyone else. And yeah I roll around in the hurt sometimes, enjoy it.
When you can say "look I'm worthless and here's the proof... this person left me, that person left me...after all I felt" yadda yadda yadda... it gives you an excuse to not change and to just waste away. It takes a shit load of responsibilty off your shoulders ya know what I mean?
I get what you saying about the beauty of it all. I think I'm the type of person who finds beauty in the dark twisted and sad than I do in light happy things. Happy bouncy fluffy things usually annoy the fuck out of me. If this doesn't make anysense just ignore me I didnt sleep lastnight. It makes a lot of sense. A LOT. The victim is an easy role. You're a smart chicky. Hi everyone! | |
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starkitty said: Sweeny79 said: Yeah I carry torches
I think it has to do with my own hurt and regret and self esteem than it has to do with anyone else. And yeah I roll around in the hurt sometimes, enjoy it.
When you can say "look I'm worthless and here's the proof... this person left me, that person left me...after all I felt" yadda yadda yadda... it gives you an excuse to not change and to just waste away. It takes a shit load of responsibilty off your shoulders ya know what I mean?
I get what you saying about the beauty of it all. I think I'm the type of person who finds beauty in the dark twisted and sad than I do in light happy things. Happy bouncy fluffy things usually annoy the fuck out of me. If this doesn't make anysense just ignore me I didnt sleep lastnight. It makes a lot of sense. A LOT. The victim is an easy role. You're a smart chicky. Hi everyone! Thanks darling...but I'm not smart enough to NOT play that role on ocassion. In spite of the cost of living, it's still popular. |
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Im gonna stay away from this topic:
starkitty Say it's just a dream...
U open up ur eyes and come 2 realize u simply imagined this So u lean over and give her a kiss Here on earth, here on earth, with u it's not so bad Here on earth, here on earth eye don't feel so sad Stay right here | |
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And then, some things are better left unsaid.
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